Isle of Thanet Gazette 21st March 1944 Mr Edwin BAXTER Death of Thanet Farmer Mr Edwin BAXTER a well known Thanet farmer and prominent nationally as a greyhound owner, passed away at his home Bolingbroke Sarre, on Tuesday. Born in Margate, Mr BAXTER was 69 years old and his death followed a seven week illness. Following his education at Dr Head’s School, Margate, and St Alban’s Grammar School, Mr BAXTER entered the sausage manufacturing business established by his grandfather over 100 years ago in London. With the death of his father Mr Walter BAXTER he became governing director of the business which he extended in 1940 by opening a factory at Sarre. Between 45 and 50 tons of sausages are produced there every week. A Thousand Acres Mr BAXTER left Margate in 1921 and made his home at the picturesque residence attached to Bolingbroke Farm, which he had bought together with Elms Farm Pocock’s Farm and Sarre Court. With his later acquisition of Wallend Farm a total of over 1,000 acres came under his ownership. His great interest was coursing and mainly through his efforts Thanet became a famous coursing centre. He was elected president of the Isle of Thanet Coursing Club in 1928 and through his influence the South East of England Coursing Club patronised the St Nicholas grounds for such events as the Barbican Cup, regarded as second in importance to the Waterloo Cup. The St Nicholas meetings were attended by many titled and notable greyhound owners and MR BAXTER acted as host to them. Associated with the national Coursing Club, he entered dogs from well known ‘E.B’ kennels at Sarre in the Waterloo Cup on many occasions. He achieved his greatest successes in 1927 when Entry Badge won the first greyhound racing ‘Derby’ at White City and Ever Bright and Elder Brother came second and third. Won Trophy Three Times Mr BAXTER was donor of the Barbican Cup and in 1940 he created a record in the competition by winning the trophy for the third time with Ever Brave. Two of his dogs, Exotic Bloom and Ellen Beaton, reached the final when he won the cup for the first time at St Nicholas in 1934. Equally well known in Irish coursing circles, Mr BAXTER was a winner of the Irish International Cup. Feeling that such a luxury sport should not continue in war time, Mr BAXTER gradually closed his kennels in the early months of the war. A popular figure in Margate, he was an ex-president of the Constitutional Club and president of the Margate Club for several years. An enthusiastic angler, he won many trophies and prizes in the sport. Twice married Mr BAXTER was a widower for about 23 years. He leaves four sons and one daughter. The Funeral A service at St Pail’s Church preceded the interment at Margate Cemetery on Saturday. The Rev J B Cowell (Vicar) officiated and the service included the psalm “The Lord is my Shepherd” and the hymn “O God our help in ages past”. Mr F Wake, who was at the organ played “Andante Cantabile” (Tchaikovsky). “Evening” (Alfred Hollins) and “O rest in the Lord” (Mendelssohn). The mourners were Mr and Mrs E BAXTER and Mr and Mrs G BAXTER, (sons and daughters in law), Mr and Mrs D BOULANGER (son in law and daughter), Mrs MELL (sister) Mr and Mrs L MELL, (nephew and nice) Mr J H SKINNER, Mr Bruce BLEWITT (Solicitor) Mr W McCULLOCH (representing Mr BAXTER’s London Factory) Mr H C BATHURST and Mr William BANKS. They were followed by about 30 of Mr BAXTER’s farm and factory employees. Others present in church included the mayor and Mayoress (Alderman and Mrs F J CORNFORD) Alderman and Mrs F L PETTMAN, Alderman E S LININGTON, Alderman W C REDMAN, Alderman W J PERKINS, Alderman G A ABBOTT, Councillor R G SCOTT, Councillor H J ROGERS, Mr W PALMER (Deputy Chief Constable of Kent), Dr A M BOWIE, Messrs J A MONGOMERY (chairman) and Mr W J GARDNER (secretary) representing the National Farmers Union, Mrs J CORNHILL (secretary of the Isle of Thanet Coursing Club), Mr and Mrs. W G GARDNER, Mrs TANNENBAUM, Messrs A MONTGOMERY, E H SMITH, CW STANLEY, A MILES, AHL WATSON, E T BROADLEY, AJ SAXBY, JH MILLAR, P KNIGHTON, H MERVYN COBB, AJ STICKELS, GF PARRETT, C SOLOMON, (Charley from Margate), AT GIFFORD, C ELGAR, F THOMPSON, WS COLE, ER COLE, RG JAMES, HT PRESS, A FINCH (secretary Isle of Thanet Licensed Victuallers Association), AG BOUCHER, HA SMITH, RA LUNN, Harry SHAW, A HARRIS, A BALESTRINI, AE WOODMAN, HA LEIGH, G TOZER, R WILSON, HS HARVEY, F CARLEY, HT WILLETT, C WILLETT, E A BORG, Alan SMITH, F JONES, GW BARTLETT, F WESTON, E WANSTALL, J PRICE, TM WILLETT, J WILLETT, W SMITH, F EDMONDS, A CHESSEMAN, S TOBIN, H MOUNT, GF WHITEMAN, JS ARNOLD, T W GOMM, TF COLLINS, and A McDONNELL, Mrs D DALLAS, Mr and Mrs HEDGE. Margate Local & Family History

Her 106th Birthday - Thanets Oldest Resident 31st December 1948 Thanets Oldest inhabitant, Mrs Jane CHAMPKIN, of Brenan House, Ramsgate celebrated her 106th Birthday on Christmas Eve. Among the first to congratulate her were three 'youngsters' who share the same bedroom and whose ages total 264 years. They were Mrs POINTER(89), Mrs AUSTIN (89)and Mrs GOODWIN (86). Although confined to her bed, Mrs CHAMPKIN still manages to read works by her favourite author Charles Dickens. One of her biggest birthday thrills was a letter from the Private Secretary to the Duchess of Kent, which recalled memories of a day last May when she was introduced to the Duchess at the foundation stone laying at Ramsgate General Hospital extensions. In his letter, the Private Secretary (Mr Philip HAY) wrote: "The Duchess of Kent was delighted to hear that you are to celebrate your 106th anniversary on the 24th December. Her Royal Highness well remembers meeting you when she visited Ramsgate on the 19th May and would now like to offer you her sincere congratulations on the occasion of your birthday. Her Royal Highness hopes you will spend a very happy day and has also asked me to send you her best wishes for Christmas and the New Year. Born in Bridlington Yorks in 1842, five years after Victoria came to the throne, Mrs CHAMPKIN came to Ramsgate with her late husband after the 1914-1918 war. Margate Local & Family History

I would like to wish all listers a very merry Christmas and a Happy new year, with a special thank you to Suzannah for her tireless work and for going that extra mile to help. Regards Joan.

Yes, Happy Christmas to all listers. What have you achieved in 2010 as regards Thanet family history? Maddie In a message dated 17/12/2010 11:28:06 GMT Standard Time, joan.leary@ntlworld.com writes: I would like to wish all listers a very merry Christmas and a Happy new year, with a special thank you to Suzannah for her tireless work and for going that extra mile to help. Regards Joan. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I haven't found anyone else by the name of Page at all in the family - I suppose the letters could have been to someone else but the frequent mention of other of my great aunts and uncles by name suggest otherwise. Maybe I should just start to look at all the Pages from Margate at that time? From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzannah Foad Sent: 08 December 2010 14:07 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain I too had a look and no luck. I cannot think what else to look up as he may not have been Page at birth. Could the letters have belonged to someone else in the family. Do you have any other Buddington's marrying Page's? Margate Local & Family History --- On Wed, 8/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> wrote: > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 8 December, 2010, 8:52 > Thanks Suzannah, I'll try that if I > can find his birth - I can't see it in > freeBMD - any idea how else I could get it? > > Suzy > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Suzannah Foad > Sent: 06 December 2010 16:05 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > Two ideas > > Look for F J Page's birth to send off for the certificate > and find his > parents > > Also, try ancestry to see if they have his army service > records which may > also give a next of kin etc > > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Mon, 6/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > wrote: > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 12:00 > > Thanks to all for your input - sorry > > I'm a little slow in responding - we > > have some technical problems here! > > > > > > > > In my family we were always aware of Frank Buddington > as > > the 'only' son from > > William's first marriage. John was never mentioned by > my > > grandmother or > > great aunts and my mum didn't know about him. As I > say, I > > do have John's > > 'Little Book' from the army as well as the letter sent > to > > my GG grandfather > > William when John died. I also have FJ Page's 'Little > > Book' > > > > > > > > I am basing the clues I have about FJ Page on some > > assumptions. I don't have > > the envelopes that went with them but they are > addressed to > > 'mother' and > > talk about little Frank and Hannah and 'healthy little > Tom > > and Ted' (my next > > 2 great uncles). He signs himself 'your loving son > William' > > and in one > > letter 'Bill' but is always clear to show them how to > > address the letters:- > > J W Page, F Company, Chatham Barracks, Reg No > 2773. > > (in December 1899). A > > year later he was writing from Malta. > > > > > > > > He also asks for the address of Alfred Horn - my > > GGgrandfather's sister, > > Mary Buddington was married to a Charles Horn. > > > > > > > > Strangely, although his name is clearly written as > > 'Frederick John Page' in > > his army book he signs it (on the same page of his > 'Little > > Book') as F W > > Page. He enlisted on the 19th October 1899 at the age > of 18 > > years and 5 > > months. It states that he was born in the town of > Margate > > in Kent and was a > > labourer. I suppose he could have lied about his age. > In > > any event, it looks > > like he would have been born before William > Buddington's > > first marriage so > > maybe he was an illegitimate son. > > > > > > > > On a slight tangent, to Elizabeth Clark: are you > descended > > from ancestors of > > Caroline Chesterman? If so I have some original > documents > > that might be of > > interest to you including the original marriage > certificate > > of James > > Chesterman and Sarah Clarke and lots more! > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your suggestions so far! > > > > > > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Elizabeth Clark > > Sent: 05 December 2010 14:01 > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > > > > > No, Caroline wasn't married previously according to > her > > marriage cert (May > > 13th, 1888). She was 29 years old and names her father > as > > James CHESTERMAN, > > Decorator. William says his father was John > BUDDINGTON, > > Deceased, Labourer. > > > > According to the census that Suzannah quoted, John > and > > Frank were both born > > in Garlinge. Would be a good idea to check the PR to > see if > > you can find > > their baptisms. Perhaps Frank wasn't their son, but > son of > > relative and > > brought up with this couple. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Elizabeth > > > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Suzannah Foad > <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com > > > wrote: > > > > > I see on the 1891 Census William is listed with > two > > sons that he had with > > > Harriet > > > > > > William Buddington 31 > > > Caroline Buddington 36 > > > John W Buddington 6 > > > Frank A Buddington 5 > > > Hannah K Buddington 1 > > > > > > Births Jun 1884 > > > Buddington John William > > Thanet 2a 916 > > > > > > Births Mar 1886 > > > BUDDINGTON Francis Anthony > > Thanet 2a 965 > > > Name: Francis A C Buddington > > > Death: Camberwell, London, England > > > Death: Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 > > > > > > You say that FJ Page mentions your grandmother > > siblings, but does he > > > mention them as his own siblings? I take it this > would > > Caroline Chesterman > > > that the letters were addressed to? Was she > married > > previously? > > > > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page > Spain > > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > > Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 17:50 > > > > Dear Suzannah, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a > > full-scale mystery > > > > on my hands! My > > > > Great grandfather, William Buddington (born > 1859 > > in Minster > > > > in Thanet) . He > > > > was married twice, once to Harriet Spain who > died > > in a > > > > drowning incident in > > > > 1886 and then to Caroline Chesterman. I am > aware > > of most of > > > > his offspring > > > > (including my grandmother). Until recently > I > > thought he had > > > > only had one > > > > child with Harriet Spain but I have recently > been > > given > > > > some letters which > > > > reveal he had a son who was in the army > (Royal > > Warwickshire > > > > regiment) and > > > > who died of pneumonia in Dublin in December > > 1901. > > > > > > > > Along with the letters from him (John > William > > Buddington) > > > > there were also > > > > letters and the army's 'Little Book' > belonging to > > a > > > > Frederick John Page. > > > > There were also letters from FJ Page > addressed to > > 'mother' > > > > and mentioning by > > > > name my grandmothers siblings as brothers > and > > sisters. I > > > > don't understand > > > > how it can be that this soldier (from the > 3rd > > battalion > > > > Royal West Kent > > > > Regiment) could be related to my great > > grandparents. > > > > > > > > It's all a bit of a mystery - I wonder if > you > > have any idea > > > > how I could > > > > start to unravel the clues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hearn > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an > > email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > > the > > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > _____ > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3299 - > Release > > Date: 12/05/10 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3302 - Release > Date: 12/07/10 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. 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I too had a look and no luck. I cannot think what else to look up as he may not have been Page at birth. Could the letters have belonged to someone else in the family. Do you have any other Buddington's marrying Page's? Margate Local & Family History --- On Wed, 8/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> wrote: > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Wednesday, 8 December, 2010, 8:52 > Thanks Suzannah, I'll try that if I > can find his birth - I can't see it in > freeBMD - any idea how else I could get it? > > Suzy > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Suzannah Foad > Sent: 06 December 2010 16:05 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > Two ideas > > Look for F J Page's birth to send off for the certificate > and find his > parents > > Also, try ancestry to see if they have his army service > records which may > also give a next of kin etc > > Suzannah > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Mon, 6/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > wrote: > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 12:00 > > Thanks to all for your input - sorry > > I'm a little slow in responding - we > > have some technical problems here! > > > > > > > > In my family we were always aware of Frank Buddington > as > > the 'only' son from > > William's first marriage. John was never mentioned by > my > > grandmother or > > great aunts and my mum didn't know about him. As I > say, I > > do have John's > > 'Little Book' from the army as well as the letter sent > to > > my GG grandfather > > William when John died. I also have FJ Page's 'Little > > Book' > > > > > > > > I am basing the clues I have about FJ Page on some > > assumptions. I don't have > > the envelopes that went with them but they are > addressed to > > 'mother' and > > talk about little Frank and Hannah and 'healthy little > Tom > > and Ted' (my next > > 2 great uncles). He signs himself 'your loving son > William' > > and in one > > letter 'Bill' but is always clear to show them how to > > address the letters:- > > J W Page, F Company, Chatham Barracks,  Reg No > 2773. > > (in December 1899). A > > year later he was writing from Malta. > > > > > > > > He also asks for the address of Alfred Horn - my > > GGgrandfather's sister, > > Mary Buddington was married to a Charles Horn. > > > > > > > > Strangely, although his name is clearly written as > > 'Frederick John Page' in > > his army book he signs it (on the same page of his > 'Little > > Book') as F W > > Page. He enlisted on the 19th October 1899 at the age > of 18 > > years and 5 > > months. It states that he was born in the town of > Margate > > in Kent and was a > > labourer. I suppose he could have lied about his age. > In > > any event, it looks > > like he would have been born before William > Buddington's > > first marriage so > > maybe he was an illegitimate son. > > > > > > > > On a slight tangent, to Elizabeth Clark: are you > descended > > from ancestors of > > Caroline Chesterman? If so I have some original > documents > > that might be of > > interest to you including the original marriage > certificate > > of James > > Chesterman and Sarah Clarke and lots more! > > > > > > > > Thanks again for your suggestions so far! > > > > > > > > Suzanne > > > > > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > > On Behalf Of Elizabeth Clark > > Sent: 05 December 2010 14:01 > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > > > > > No, Caroline wasn't married previously according to > her > > marriage cert (May > > 13th, 1888). She was 29 years old and names her father > as > > James CHESTERMAN, > > Decorator. William says his father was John > BUDDINGTON, > > Deceased, Labourer. > > > > According to the census that Suzannah quoted, John > and > > Frank were both born > > in Garlinge. Would be a good idea to check the PR to > see if > > you can find > > their baptisms. Perhaps Frank wasn't their son, but > son of > > relative and > > brought up with this couple. > > > > Best wishes > > > > Elizabeth > > > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Suzannah Foad > <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com > > > wrote: > > > > > I see on the 1891 Census William is listed with > two > > sons that he had with > > > Harriet > > > > > > William Buddington 31 > > > Caroline Buddington 36 > > > John W Buddington 6 > > > Frank A Buddington 5 > > > Hannah K Buddington 1 > > > > > > Births Jun 1884 > > > Buddington  John William    > > Thanet  2a 916 > > > > > > Births Mar 1886 > > > BUDDINGTON  Francis Anthony > >    Thanet  2a 965 > > > Name:  Francis A C Buddington > > > Death:  Camberwell, London, England > > > Death:  Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 > > > > > > You say that FJ Page mentions your grandmother > > siblings, but does he > > > mention them as his own siblings? I take it this > would > > Caroline Chesterman > > > that the letters were addressed to? Was she > married > > previously? > > > > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > wrote: > > > > > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page > Spain > > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > > Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 17:50 > > >  > Dear Suzannah, > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a > > full-scale mystery > > > > on my hands! My > > > > Great grandfather, William Buddington (born > 1859 > > in Minster > > > > in Thanet) . He > > > > was married twice, once to Harriet Spain who > died > > in a > > > > drowning incident in > > > > 1886 and then to Caroline Chesterman. I am > aware > > of most of > > > > his offspring > > > > (including my grandmother). Until recently > I > > thought he had > > > > only had one > > > > child with Harriet Spain but I have recently > been > > given > > > > some letters which > > > > reveal he had a son who was in the army > (Royal > > Warwickshire > > > > regiment) and > > > > who died of pneumonia in Dublin in December > > 1901. > > > > > > > > Along with the letters from him (John > William > > Buddington) > > > > there were also > > > > letters and the army's 'Little Book' > belonging to > > a > > > > Frederick John Page. > > > > There were also letters from FJ Page > addressed to > > 'mother' > > > > and mentioning by > > > > name my grandmothers siblings as brothers > and > > sisters. I > > > > don't understand > > > > how it can be that this soldier (from the > 3rd > > battalion > > > > Royal West Kent > > > > Regiment) could be related to my great > > grandparents. > > > > > > > > It's all a bit of a mystery - I wonder if > you > > have any idea > > > > how I could > > > > start to unravel the clues? > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hearn > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send > an > > email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > > the > > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the > message > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >   _____ > > > > No virus found in this message. > > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3299 - > Release > > Date: 12/05/10 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >   _____  > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3302 - Release > Date: 12/07/10 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Thanks Suzannah, I'll try that if I can find his birth - I can't see it in freeBMD - any idea how else I could get it? Suzy From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Suzannah Foad Sent: 06 December 2010 16:05 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain Two ideas Look for F J Page's birth to send off for the certificate and find his parents Also, try ancestry to see if they have his army service records which may also give a next of kin etc Suzannah Margate Local & Family History --- On Mon, 6/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> wrote: > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 12:00 > Thanks to all for your input - sorry > I'm a little slow in responding - we > have some technical problems here! > > > > In my family we were always aware of Frank Buddington as > the 'only' son from > William's first marriage. John was never mentioned by my > grandmother or > great aunts and my mum didn't know about him. As I say, I > do have John's > 'Little Book' from the army as well as the letter sent to > my GG grandfather > William when John died. I also have FJ Page's 'Little > Book' > > > > I am basing the clues I have about FJ Page on some > assumptions. I don't have > the envelopes that went with them but they are addressed to > 'mother' and > talk about little Frank and Hannah and 'healthy little Tom > and Ted' (my next > 2 great uncles). He signs himself 'your loving son William' > and in one > letter 'Bill' but is always clear to show them how to > address the letters:- > J W Page, F Company, Chatham Barracks, Reg No 2773. > (in December 1899). A > year later he was writing from Malta. > > > > He also asks for the address of Alfred Horn - my > GGgrandfather's sister, > Mary Buddington was married to a Charles Horn. > > > > Strangely, although his name is clearly written as > 'Frederick John Page' in > his army book he signs it (on the same page of his 'Little > Book') as F W > Page. He enlisted on the 19th October 1899 at the age of 18 > years and 5 > months. It states that he was born in the town of Margate > in Kent and was a > labourer. I suppose he could have lied about his age. In > any event, it looks > like he would have been born before William Buddington's > first marriage so > maybe he was an illegitimate son. > > > > On a slight tangent, to Elizabeth Clark: are you descended > from ancestors of > Caroline Chesterman? If so I have some original documents > that might be of > interest to you including the original marriage certificate > of James > Chesterman and Sarah Clarke and lots more! > > > > Thanks again for your suggestions so far! > > > > Suzanne > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Elizabeth Clark > Sent: 05 December 2010 14:01 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > No, Caroline wasn't married previously according to her > marriage cert (May > 13th, 1888). She was 29 years old and names her father as > James CHESTERMAN, > Decorator. William says his father was John BUDDINGTON, > Deceased, Labourer. > > According to the census that Suzannah quoted, John and > Frank were both born > in Garlinge. Would be a good idea to check the PR to see if > you can find > their baptisms. Perhaps Frank wasn't their son, but son of > relative and > brought up with this couple. > > Best wishes > > Elizabeth > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Suzannah Foad <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com > > wrote: > > > I see on the 1891 Census William is listed with two > sons that he had with > > Harriet > > > > William Buddington 31 > > Caroline Buddington 36 > > John W Buddington 6 > > Frank A Buddington 5 > > Hannah K Buddington 1 > > > > Births Jun 1884 > > Buddington John William > Thanet 2a 916 > > > > Births Mar 1886 > > BUDDINGTON Francis Anthony > Thanet 2a 965 > > Name: Francis A C Buddington > > Death: Camberwell, London, England > > Death: Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 > > > > You say that FJ Page mentions your grandmother > siblings, but does he > > mention them as his own siblings? I take it this would > Caroline Chesterman > > that the letters were addressed to? Was she married > previously? > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > wrote: > > > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 17:50 > > > Dear Suzannah, > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a > full-scale mystery > > > on my hands! My > > > Great grandfather, William Buddington (born 1859 > in Minster > > > in Thanet) . He > > > was married twice, once to Harriet Spain who died > in a > > > drowning incident in > > > 1886 and then to Caroline Chesterman. I am aware > of most of > > > his offspring > > > (including my grandmother). Until recently I > thought he had > > > only had one > > > child with Harriet Spain but I have recently been > given > > > some letters which > > > reveal he had a son who was in the army (Royal > Warwickshire > > > regiment) and > > > who died of pneumonia in Dublin in December > 1901. > > > > > > Along with the letters from him (John William > Buddington) > > > there were also > > > letters and the army's 'Little Book' belonging to > a > > > Frederick John Page. > > > There were also letters from FJ Page addressed to > 'mother' > > > and mentioning by > > > name my grandmothers siblings as brothers and > sisters. I > > > don't understand > > > how it can be that this soldier (from the 3rd > battalion > > > Royal West Kent > > > Regiment) could be related to my great > grandparents. > > > > > > It's all a bit of a mystery - I wonder if you > have any idea > > > how I could > > > start to unravel the clues? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hearn > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3299 - Release > Date: 12/05/10 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. 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I was delighted to read FTM for Mac was released Nov 4. I promptly sent off to Ancestry to buy it - go to head office, right?Well software arrived 6th December - just the light advertising jacket around the CD - customers address stickers etc stuck on the back. Sides of it open so CD could be seen. Miracle CD even got here.... it could have been taken or lost out of the packet, or damaged the CD. There was no software box..... No manual. .... and I paid a total of $109 + dollars with postage and handling. Needless to say I am complaining bitterly to Ancestry. So if there are any Mac users amongst you - don't buy from Ancestry -- instead pick on a Mac store or Amazon. One of my London Mac acquaintances has got his via Amazon with proper software box and small manual. Take a look at these snaps --- you'll see why I am CROSS!!! Can you believe this?http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/5677959/1/Ancestry?h=8c48fe Best regards to all Jude

Lesley I have family PIDDUCK in Thanet. It is an unusual name so there may be a connection although I havr done little research this far back. Do you know anything about Elizabeth's family? I have a Benjamin PIDDUCK who maried a Mary Kelcherman in Eastry near Deal 29.9.1743. Their son Benjamin (bpt Canterbury 31.3.1754) married Margaret GRANT at St Nicholas 9.12.1777 It is possible your Elizabeth was a member of this family and I would be interested in any info you have on her Sandra Ager

Andy Many thanks for trying, so kind of you. I read both your notes at the same time so my hopes were not raised for too long!! Thanks again Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Andy Hedgcock" <andy701@blueyonder.co.uk> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 10:21 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Albert BISHOP, Margate 1981 > Hi Paul > > Sorry, Dad's found nothing. Sorry to have raised your hopes! > > Cheers > Andy > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paul Bishop" <paul.bishop19@btinternet.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:58 PM > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Albert BISHOP, Margate 1981 > > >> Hello Suzannah. >> Another great find, thanks so much. >> I was aware that someone in my family was known as "Nutty" and many years >> ago I put a note to the list looking for him without luck. >> "Nutty" Albert was my grandfather's brother, and my dads sister Phyllis >> was >> married to her cousin Albert Jnr. >> The sporting link has now given me something new to investigate. >> >> This is another one of Walter Nelson's sons working in the Gas >> Works.Should >> have called it the Bishop Gas Works!! >> >> Thanks again >> Paul >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> >> To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:36 PM >> Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Albert BISHOP, Margate 1981 >> >> >>> Isle of Thanet Gazette 22nd May 1981 >>> A former Margate FC player during the pre-war Arsenal nursery days, >>> Albert >>> 'Nutty' BISHOP, of Perkins Avenue, Margate, died on Friday aged 87. >>> Mr BISHOP, who worked for 40 years with the old Margate Gas and Coke >>> Company also played soccer for Margate when their headquarters were at >>> the >>> Dreamland site. >>> he was a cricketer of note too and in his latter days umpired for >>> Margate >>> and Westgate. His son Bert also played for the two clubs as a wicket >>> keeper and opening batsman. >>> The funeral is at Thanet Crematorium this (Friday) morning. >>> >>> Margate Local & Family History >>> >>> >>> ------------------------------- >>> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >>> ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >>> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Paul Sorry, Dad's found nothing. Sorry to have raised your hopes! Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bishop" <paul.bishop19@btinternet.com> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Albert BISHOP, Margate 1981 > Hello Suzannah. > Another great find, thanks so much. > I was aware that someone in my family was known as "Nutty" and many years > ago I put a note to the list looking for him without luck. > "Nutty" Albert was my grandfather's brother, and my dads sister Phyllis > was > married to her cousin Albert Jnr. > The sporting link has now given me something new to investigate. > > This is another one of Walter Nelson's sons working in the Gas > Works.Should > have called it the Bishop Gas Works!! > > Thanks again > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:36 PM > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Albert BISHOP, Margate 1981 > > >> Isle of Thanet Gazette 22nd May 1981 >> A former Margate FC player during the pre-war Arsenal nursery days, >> Albert >> 'Nutty' BISHOP, of Perkins Avenue, Margate, died on Friday aged 87. >> Mr BISHOP, who worked for 40 years with the old Margate Gas and Coke >> Company also played soccer for Margate when their headquarters were at >> the >> Dreamland site. >> he was a cricketer of note too and in his latter days umpired for Margate >> and Westgate. His son Bert also played for the two clubs as a wicket >> keeper and opening batsman. >> The funeral is at Thanet Crematorium this (Friday) morning. >> >> Margate Local & Family History >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Paul I've forwarded this to my Dad as he has a slight interest in cricket (member of Lords and cricket journalist) to see what he can find. Will get back to you. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bishop" <paul.bishop19@btinternet.com> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 9:58 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Albert BISHOP, Margate 1981 > Hello Suzannah. > Another great find, thanks so much. > I was aware that someone in my family was known as "Nutty" and many years > ago I put a note to the list looking for him without luck. > "Nutty" Albert was my grandfather's brother, and my dads sister Phyllis > was > married to her cousin Albert Jnr. > The sporting link has now given me something new to investigate. > > This is another one of Walter Nelson's sons working in the Gas > Works.Should > have called it the Bishop Gas Works!! > > Thanks again > Paul > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> > To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:36 PM > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Albert BISHOP, Margate 1981 > > >> Isle of Thanet Gazette 22nd May 1981 >> A former Margate FC player during the pre-war Arsenal nursery days, >> Albert >> 'Nutty' BISHOP, of Perkins Avenue, Margate, died on Friday aged 87. >> Mr BISHOP, who worked for 40 years with the old Margate Gas and Coke >> Company also played soccer for Margate when their headquarters were at >> the >> Dreamland site. >> he was a cricketer of note too and in his latter days umpired for Margate >> and Westgate. His son Bert also played for the two clubs as a wicket >> keeper and opening batsman. >> The funeral is at Thanet Crematorium this (Friday) morning. >> >> Margate Local & Family History >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without >> the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Suzannah. Another great find, thanks so much. I was aware that someone in my family was known as "Nutty" and many years ago I put a note to the list looking for him without luck. "Nutty" Albert was my grandfather's brother, and my dads sister Phyllis was married to her cousin Albert Jnr. The sporting link has now given me something new to investigate. This is another one of Walter Nelson's sons working in the Gas Works.Should have called it the Bishop Gas Works!! Thanks again Paul ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, December 06, 2010 6:36 PM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Albert BISHOP, Margate 1981 > Isle of Thanet Gazette 22nd May 1981 > A former Margate FC player during the pre-war Arsenal nursery days, Albert > 'Nutty' BISHOP, of Perkins Avenue, Margate, died on Friday aged 87. > Mr BISHOP, who worked for 40 years with the old Margate Gas and Coke > Company also played soccer for Margate when their headquarters were at the > Dreamland site. > he was a cricketer of note too and in his latter days umpired for Margate > and Westgate. His son Bert also played for the two clubs as a wicket > keeper and opening batsman. > The funeral is at Thanet Crematorium this (Friday) morning. > > Margate Local & Family History > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Robin, Actually, I can't be sure. This: Parents: Henry Sladen and Elizabeth Piddock ( SLADEN Henry, otp & Eliz PIDDOCK, Stonar. Banns only 8-22 Jun 1755) Marriage: 11th October 1755 at St. Mary, Minster on Thanet Was sent to me by a Hewett family member and assumed it had been checked out!! Lesley ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Lesley How sure are you that your Elizabeth Sladden is the daughter of Henry & Elizabeth Sladden as their daughter Elizabeth was buried at St John the Baptist, Margate, Kent, England on 07 Apr 1767 aged 4 years old? Robin Hi all, My 5th g grandmother Elizabeth SLADEN b 11 April 1763 Margate, bapt 24 April 1763 St John, Margate. She married 22 Jul 1780 St John, Margate, Kent to John Hewett. I have family for John Hewett. I have the following only on Elizabeth SLADEN: Marriage: HEWET John, St Nicholas = Elizabeth SLADEN, otp, Banns 22 Jul 1780, Mathew FOX, Sarah FOX Parents: Henry Sladen and Elizabeth Piddock ( SLADEN Henry, otp & Eliz PIDDOCK, Stonar. Banns only 8-22 Jun 1755) Marriage: 11th October 1755 at St. Mary, Minster on Thanet I have a feeling that sometimes the Sladen was spelt Sladden?? Is there anyone out there who can provide me with any information on either Henry SLADEN or Elizabeth PIDDOCK or their families?? It would be lovely to have the additional information. I have noticed on several public trees, that they have spelt Elizabeth's surname as Piccock?? Many thanks, Lesley lesleymm48@bigpond.com

Isle of Thanet Gazette 22nd May 1981 A former Margate FC player during the pre-war Arsenal nursery days, Albert 'Nutty' BISHOP, of Perkins Avenue, Margate, died on Friday aged 87. Mr BISHOP, who worked for 40 years with the old Margate Gas and Coke Company also played soccer for Margate when their headquarters were at the Dreamland site. he was a cricketer of note too and in his latter days umpired for Margate and Westgate. His son Bert also played for the two clubs as a wicket keeper and opening batsman. The funeral is at Thanet Crematorium this (Friday) morning. Margate Local & Family History

Two ideas Look for F J Page's birth to send off for the certificate and find his parents Also, try ancestry to see if they have his army service records which may also give a next of kin etc Suzannah Margate Local & Family History --- On Mon, 6/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> wrote: > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Monday, 6 December, 2010, 12:00 > Thanks to all for your input - sorry > I'm a little slow in responding - we > have some technical problems here! > > > > In my family we were always aware of Frank Buddington as > the 'only' son from > William's first marriage. John was never mentioned by my > grandmother or > great aunts and my mum didn't know about him. As I say, I > do have John's > 'Little Book' from the army as well as the letter sent to > my GG grandfather > William when John died. I also have FJ Page's 'Little > Book' > > > > I am basing the clues I have about FJ Page on some > assumptions. I don't have > the envelopes that went with them but they are addressed to > 'mother' and > talk about little Frank and Hannah and 'healthy little Tom > and Ted' (my next > 2 great uncles). He signs himself 'your loving son William' > and in one > letter 'Bill' but is always clear to show them how to > address the letters:- > J W Page, F Company, Chatham Barracks,  Reg No 2773. > (in December 1899). A > year later he was writing from Malta. > > > > He also asks for the address of Alfred Horn - my > GGgrandfather's sister, > Mary Buddington was married to a Charles Horn. > > > > Strangely, although his name is clearly written as > 'Frederick John Page' in > his army book he signs it (on the same page of his 'Little > Book') as F W > Page. He enlisted on the 19th October 1899 at the age of 18 > years and 5 > months. It states that he was born in the town of Margate > in Kent and was a > labourer. I suppose he could have lied about his age. In > any event, it looks > like he would have been born before William Buddington's > first marriage so > maybe he was an illegitimate son. > > > > On a slight tangent, to Elizabeth Clark: are you descended > from ancestors of > Caroline Chesterman? If so I have some original documents > that might be of > interest to you including the original marriage certificate > of James > Chesterman and Sarah Clarke and lots more! > > > > Thanks again for your suggestions so far! > > > > Suzanne > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] > On Behalf Of Elizabeth Clark > Sent: 05 December 2010 14:01 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > No, Caroline wasn't married previously according to her > marriage cert (May > 13th, 1888). She was 29 years old and names her father as > James CHESTERMAN, > Decorator. William says his father was John BUDDINGTON, > Deceased, Labourer. > > According to the census that Suzannah quoted, John and > Frank were both born > in Garlinge. Would be a good idea to check the PR to see if > you can find > their baptisms. Perhaps Frank wasn't their son, but son of > relative and > brought up with this couple. > > Best wishes > > Elizabeth > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Suzannah Foad <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com > > wrote: > > > I see on the 1891 Census William is listed with two > sons that he had with > > Harriet > > > > William Buddington 31 > > Caroline Buddington 36 > > John W Buddington 6 > > Frank A Buddington 5 > > Hannah K Buddington 1 > > > > Births Jun 1884 > > Buddington  John William    > Thanet  2a 916 > > > > Births Mar 1886 > > BUDDINGTON  Francis Anthony  >    Thanet  2a 965 > > Name:  Francis A C Buddington > > Death:  Camberwell, London, England > > Death:  Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 > > > > You say that FJ Page mentions your grandmother > siblings, but does he > > mention them as his own siblings? I take it this would > Caroline Chesterman > > that the letters were addressed to? Was she married > previously? > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > wrote: > > > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 17:50 > >  > Dear Suzannah, > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a > full-scale mystery > > > on my hands! My > > > Great grandfather, William Buddington (born 1859 > in Minster > > > in Thanet) . He > > > was married twice, once to Harriet Spain who died > in a > > > drowning incident in > > > 1886 and then to Caroline Chesterman. I am aware > of most of > > > his offspring > > > (including my grandmother). Until recently I > thought he had > > > only had one > > > child with Harriet Spain but I have recently been > given > > > some letters which > > > reveal he had a son who was in the army (Royal > Warwickshire > > > regiment) and > > > who died of pneumonia in Dublin in December > 1901. > > > > > > Along with the letters from him (John William > Buddington) > > > there were also > > > letters and the army's 'Little Book' belonging to > a > > > Frederick John Page. > > > There were also letters from FJ Page addressed to > 'mother' > > > and mentioning by > > > name my grandmothers siblings as brothers and > sisters. I > > > don't understand > > > how it can be that this soldier (from the 3rd > battalion > > > Royal West Kent > > > Regiment) could be related to my great > grandparents. > > > > > > It's all a bit of a mystery - I wonder if you > have any idea > > > how I could > > > start to unravel the clues? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hearn > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >   _____  > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3299 - Release > Date: 12/05/10 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Thanks to all for your input - sorry I'm a little slow in responding - we have some technical problems here! In my family we were always aware of Frank Buddington as the 'only' son from William's first marriage. John was never mentioned by my grandmother or great aunts and my mum didn't know about him. As I say, I do have John's 'Little Book' from the army as well as the letter sent to my GG grandfather William when John died. I also have FJ Page's 'Little Book' I am basing the clues I have about FJ Page on some assumptions. I don't have the envelopes that went with them but they are addressed to 'mother' and talk about little Frank and Hannah and 'healthy little Tom and Ted' (my next 2 great uncles). He signs himself 'your loving son William' and in one letter 'Bill' but is always clear to show them how to address the letters:- J W Page, F Company, Chatham Barracks, Reg No 2773. (in December 1899). A year later he was writing from Malta. He also asks for the address of Alfred Horn - my GGgrandfather's sister, Mary Buddington was married to a Charles Horn. Strangely, although his name is clearly written as 'Frederick John Page' in his army book he signs it (on the same page of his 'Little Book') as F W Page. He enlisted on the 19th October 1899 at the age of 18 years and 5 months. It states that he was born in the town of Margate in Kent and was a labourer. I suppose he could have lied about his age. In any event, it looks like he would have been born before William Buddington's first marriage so maybe he was an illegitimate son. On a slight tangent, to Elizabeth Clark: are you descended from ancestors of Caroline Chesterman? If so I have some original documents that might be of interest to you including the original marriage certificate of James Chesterman and Sarah Clarke and lots more! Thanks again for your suggestions so far! Suzanne From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Clark Sent: 05 December 2010 14:01 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain No, Caroline wasn't married previously according to her marriage cert (May 13th, 1888). She was 29 years old and names her father as James CHESTERMAN, Decorator. William says his father was John BUDDINGTON, Deceased, Labourer. According to the census that Suzannah quoted, John and Frank were both born in Garlinge. Would be a good idea to check the PR to see if you can find their baptisms. Perhaps Frank wasn't their son, but son of relative and brought up with this couple. Best wishes Elizabeth On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Suzannah Foad <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com > wrote: > I see on the 1891 Census William is listed with two sons that he had with > Harriet > > William Buddington 31 > Caroline Buddington 36 > John W Buddington 6 > Frank A Buddington 5 > Hannah K Buddington 1 > > Births Jun 1884 > Buddington John William Thanet 2a 916 > > Births Mar 1886 > BUDDINGTON Francis Anthony Thanet 2a 965 > Name: Francis A C Buddington > Death: Camberwell, London, England > Death: Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 > > You say that FJ Page mentions your grandmother siblings, but does he > mention them as his own siblings? I take it this would Caroline Chesterman > that the letters were addressed to? Was she married previously? > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 17:50 > > Dear Suzannah, > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a full-scale mystery > > on my hands! My > > Great grandfather, William Buddington (born 1859 in Minster > > in Thanet) . He > > was married twice, once to Harriet Spain who died in a > > drowning incident in > > 1886 and then to Caroline Chesterman. I am aware of most of > > his offspring > > (including my grandmother). Until recently I thought he had > > only had one > > child with Harriet Spain but I have recently been given > > some letters which > > reveal he had a son who was in the army (Royal Warwickshire > > regiment) and > > who died of pneumonia in Dublin in December 1901. > > > > Along with the letters from him (John William Buddington) > > there were also > > letters and the army's 'Little Book' belonging to a > > Frederick John Page. > > There were also letters from FJ Page addressed to 'mother' > > and mentioning by > > name my grandmothers siblings as brothers and sisters. I > > don't understand > > how it can be that this soldier (from the 3rd battalion > > Royal West Kent > > Regiment) could be related to my great grandparents. > > > > It's all a bit of a mystery - I wonder if you have any idea > > how I could > > start to unravel the clues? > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hearn > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ No virus found in this message. 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Dear Suzanne, Sorry, no connection to Sarah CLARKE. My CLARK(E)'s are from Ramsgate, Margate, St Paul's / Mary's Cray and before that (Abt 1820's) the Hemel Hempstead area (Boxmoor / Bovingdon / etc .) Best wishes Elizabeth On Mon, Dec 6, 2010 at 7:00 AM, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com>wrote: > Thanks to all for your input - sorry I'm a little slow in responding - we > have some technical problems here! > > > > > On a slight tangent, to Elizabeth Clark: are you descended from ancestors > of > Caroline Chesterman? If so I have some original documents that might be of > interest to you including the original marriage certificate of James > Chesterman and Sarah Clarke and lots more! > > > > Thanks again for your suggestions so far! > > > > Suzanne > > > > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Elizabeth Clark > Sent: 05 December 2010 14:01 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > > No, Caroline wasn't married previously according to her marriage cert (May > 13th, 1888). She was 29 years old and names her father as James CHESTERMAN, > Decorator. William says his father was John BUDDINGTON, Deceased, Labourer. > > According to the census that Suzannah quoted, John and Frank were both born > in Garlinge. Would be a good idea to check the PR to see if you can find > their baptisms. Perhaps Frank wasn't their son, but son of relative and > brought up with this couple. > > Best wishes > > Elizabeth > > On Sun, Dec 5, 2010 at 7:38 AM, Suzannah Foad < > suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com > > wrote: > > > I see on the 1891 Census William is listed with two sons that he had with > > Harriet > > > > William Buddington 31 > > Caroline Buddington 36 > > John W Buddington 6 > > Frank A Buddington 5 > > Hannah K Buddington 1 > > > > Births Jun 1884 > > Buddington John William Thanet 2a 916 > > > > Births Mar 1886 > > BUDDINGTON Francis Anthony Thanet 2a 965 > > Name: Francis A C Buddington > > Death: Camberwell, London, England > > Death: Oct-Nov-Dec 1957 > > > > You say that FJ Page mentions your grandmother siblings, but does he > > mention them as his own siblings? I take it this would Caroline > Chesterman > > that the letters were addressed to? Was she married previously? > > > > > > Margate Local & Family History > > > > > > --- On Thu, 2/12/10, Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> wrote: > > > > > From: Suzanne Hearn <suzanne.hearn@ntlworld.com> > > > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Buddington Page Spain > > > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > > > Date: Thursday, 2 December, 2010, 17:50 > > > Dear Suzannah, > > > > > > > > > > > > I wonder if anyone can help me, I have a full-scale mystery > > > on my hands! My > > > Great grandfather, William Buddington (born 1859 in Minster > > > in Thanet) . He > > > was married twice, once to Harriet Spain who died in a > > > drowning incident in > > > 1886 and then to Caroline Chesterman. I am aware of most of > > > his offspring > > > (including my grandmother). Until recently I thought he had > > > only had one > > > child with Harriet Spain but I have recently been given > > > some letters which > > > reveal he had a son who was in the army (Royal Warwickshire > > > regiment) and > > > who died of pneumonia in Dublin in December 1901. > > > > > > Along with the letters from him (John William Buddington) > > > there were also > > > letters and the army's 'Little Book' belonging to a > > > Frederick John Page. > > > There were also letters from FJ Page addressed to 'mother' > > > and mentioning by > > > name my grandmothers siblings as brothers and sisters. I > > > don't understand > > > how it can be that this soldier (from the 3rd battalion > > > Royal West Kent > > > Regiment) could be related to my great grandparents. > > > > > > It's all a bit of a mystery - I wonder if you have any idea > > > how I could > > > start to unravel the clues? > > > > > > > > > > > > Thanking you in anticipation > > > > > > > > > > > > Suzanne Hearn > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > > > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > > > subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > _____ > > No virus found in this message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 10.0.1170 / Virus Database: 426/3299 - Release Date: 12/05/10 > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi all, My 5th g grandmother Elizabeth SLADEN b 11 April 1763 Margate, bapt 24 April 1763 St John, Margate. She married 22 Jul 1780 St John, Margate, Kent to John Hewett. I have family for John Hewett. I have the following only on Elizabeth SLADEN: Marriage: HEWET John, St Nicholas = Elizabeth SLADEN, otp, Banns 22 Jul 1780, Mathew FOX, Sarah FOX Parents: Henry Sladen and Elizabeth Piddock ( SLADEN Henry, otp & Eliz PIDDOCK, Stonar. Banns only 8-22 Jun 1755) Marriage: 11th October 1755 at St. Mary, Minster on Thanet I have a feeling that sometimes the Sladen was spelt Sladden?? Is there anyone out there who can provide me with any information on either Henry SLADEN or Elizabeth PIDDOCK or their families?? It would be lovely to have the additional information. I have noticed on several public trees, that they have spelt Elizabeth's surname as Piccock?? Many thanks, Lesley lesleymm48@bigpond.com

Lesley How sure are you that your Elizabeth Sladden is the daughter of Henry & Elizabeth Sladden as their daughter Elizabeth was buried at St John the Baptist, Margate, Kent, England on 07 Apr 1767 aged 4 years old? Robin