FYI ---------- Forwarded message ---------- From: Duncan Harrington <history.research@btinternet.com> Date: Mon, Mar 7, 2011 at 10:15 AM Subject: [KFHS] Thanet Obituaries To: kfhs-members@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com Whilst some members may already be aware of this index there may be others that do not and may welcome the information. Duncan Harrington, FSA, FSG, LHG, Ashton Lodge, Church Road, Lyminge, Folkestone, Kent UK. Tel:  01303.862368.   Website: http://www.historyresearch.co.uk THE THANET OBITUARY  1655-1850 There are two known copies of The Thanet Obituary in existence:  1. A leather-bound book of 271 folios, hand-written by John Boys, a Margate solicitor, giving full details of monumental inscriptions in the parishes of the Isle of Thanet which he recorded during the period 1809-1834. Boys' description of his own work reads as follows: "An obituary of persons in all the parishes in the Isle of Thanet as recorded upon their monuments and tombstones...recorded 1809, 1815, 1823, 1830. By 1830 scarcely one third of the 1809 survey could be found, and many had become illegible." Further entries were added after 1830; one survey is noted as having been made in 1837, and there are details of burials as late as 1844. This copy of the Obituary found its way into the library of William John W.Mercer of Margate, who died in 1926; subsequently it became the property of F.William Cock, M.D., F.S.A., of Appledore, Ashford, Kent, and was purchased by John Titford in May, 1988.  This copy contains approximately 4000 entries, taken from the following burial grounds: MARGATE (Parish church; Calvinist Dissenters; Baptists; Roman Catholics); RAMSGATE (Parish church; Baptist Old Burial Ground; Baptist New Burial Ground); St.PETER THE APOSTLE (Parish church; Baptists); St.NICHOLAS; BIRCHINGTON, St.LAWRENCE; MINSTER; MONCKTON.  2. A leather-bound book of 435 numbered pages, most with numbers on rectos only. This is John Boys' own copy, with his bookplate. Notes in pencil indicate that further surveys were made in the October of 1844 and in 1850. Entries are especially neatly written, sometimes containing additional or corrected information when compared with the Mercer/Cock copy, above. At the back of the book is a page covered with very faint pencil writing and a page of ink-written statistics, headed: "The following summary of the foregoing contents will show the comparative healthiness of each parish." The reverse of the front free endpaper carries the following note: "These pencilled memoranda were made by my late father, on the occasion of his opposing the inspector on the introduction of the Local Board of Health Bill - on my death or other disposition this book must be delivered to my eldest or second son as the case may be". Initials of J.H.B. [?], 5 March 1862. This copy was purchased by John Titford in June 1997.  This copy contains 5000 or more entries. The burial grounds featured are as for the Mercer/Cock copy, above, with the addition of: St.PETER (Baptists); St.NICHOLAS (Wesleyan, up to 1896).  Details of inscriptions usually include: name, date of death, age, observations. Family groups are frequently featured together on one inscription, and further details are often given, such as a person's place of origin, the place where he or she died, details of a married woman's parentage, etc. Some inscriptions taken from within churches go back to the fifteenth century, but the main series of inscriptions on outdoor memorials dates from the mid seventeenth century. Most entries are eighteenth or nineteenth century in date.  A typical basic entry would read:  John Adams. 17 Aug. 1738. Aged 68. Mary wife of John Adams. 29 Apr. 1700. Aged 48. Henry her son. 22 March 1710. Aged 33. [All the above on one headstone].  Fuller or more exotic entries would read:  Thomas Feathers, a private in the 2nd.West York Militia who fell in a well at this place and was killed. 8 Dec. 1798. Aged 28. Headstone erected by the non-commissioned officers and privates of the same regiment.  James, son of Richard Ayles, died a prisoner of war at Mentzs in Germany. 27 Oct. 1806. Aged 45.  James Foard [Brasher] godson of Roger & Sarah Foard. He died of a fever in the West Indies. 22 May 1794. Aged 18.  *************************************************************************** SEARCHES can be made in both copies of the Obituary.  Please send £9.00 plus a generous-sized stamped addressed envelope for details of up to THREE surnames. The price is the same no matter how many individuals of a given surname are located.  Please send £3.00 for each additional surname  to John Titford, Yew Tree Farm, Hallfieldgate, Higham, Derbys. DE 55 6AG . -- Posted to list: KFHS-members@lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com List Info: http://lists.bcn.mythic-beasts.com/mailman/listinfo/kfhs-members Kent FHS web site: http://www.kfhs.org.uk For help: http://www.mno.org.uk - if desperate email kfhs-list-admin@weald.org.uk

Have emailed! Barbara ________________________________ Re: WHITE family tree deposited at Broadstairs Library 1946 by George FARDELL - still exists? (Suzannah Foad) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 6 Mar 2011 14:43:02 +0000 (GMT) From: Suzannah Foad <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] WHITE family tree deposited at Broadstairs Library 1946 by George FARDELL - still exists? To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <411757.78147.qm@web86404.mail.ird.yahoo.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=iso-8859-1 You could try emailing? x broadstairslibrary@kent.gov.uk Suzannah Margate Local & Family History --- On Fri, 4/3/11, Barbara Callcott <barbara_callcott@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > From: Barbara Callcott <barbara_callcott@yahoo.com.au> > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] WHITE family tree deposited at Broadstairs Library >1946 by George FARDELL - still exists? > To: isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 4 March, 2011, 20:25 > "George FARDELL in April 1946 > deposited in Broadstairs Public Library the family > tree of the White family, showing that during the sixteenth > century Thomas WHITE > of Broadstairs, Isle of Thanet, Kent, was father to > Elizabeth born 1582, Richard > and John, twins, born 1583, Robert born 1586, and Solomon > born 1588." > > Source of quote is footnote on page 28 of John Whyman's > "Aspects of? > Holidaymaking and Resort Development Within the Isle of > Thanet, With? Particular > Reference to Margate, Circa 1736 to Circa 1840"published > 1981 in series > "dissertations in european economic history" part seeable > at >http://books.google.com.au/books?id=K-bPk63H40gC&pg=PA398&dq=whyman+thanet+holidaymaking+1981&hl=en&ei=3UZxTYiFF82ecdyy2PgC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=whyman%20thanet%20holidaymaking%201981&f=false? >? > > Many Names & really full of good info & enjoyable > to read. > > I tried ringing the library but got the times totally > mucked up.? Am hoping > that some kind person might know or find out if the tree > still exists?? anyone > got a copy? > > Barbara Callcott > > > > ? ? ?

>From The Times, Friday, Feb 04, 1785; pg. 4; Issue 30; col A COUNTRY NEWS. Extract of a letter from Chatham, Feb. 2. Last Friday night a warehouse belonging to Mr. Nathan SOLOMON , of Margate, was broke open, and robbed of a quantity of sugar, and the same night, one Henry MULLET was taken with some of the sugar in his possession, and on Monday sent to Dover to be examined.

You could try emailing? x broadstairslibrary@kent.gov.uk Suzannah Margate Local & Family History --- On Fri, 4/3/11, Barbara Callcott <barbara_callcott@yahoo.com.au> wrote: > From: Barbara Callcott <barbara_callcott@yahoo.com.au> > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] WHITE family tree deposited at Broadstairs Library 1946 by George FARDELL - still exists? > To: isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com > Date: Friday, 4 March, 2011, 20:25 > "George FARDELL in April 1946 > deposited in Broadstairs Public Library the family > tree of the White family, showing that during the sixteenth > century Thomas WHITE > of Broadstairs, Isle of Thanet, Kent, was father to > Elizabeth born 1582, Richard > and John, twins, born 1583, Robert born 1586, and Solomon > born 1588." > > Source of quote is footnote on page 28 of John Whyman's > "Aspects of  > Holidaymaking and Resort Development Within the Isle of > Thanet, With  Particular > Reference to Margate, Circa 1736 to Circa 1840"published > 1981 in series > "dissertations in european economic history" part seeable > at > http://books.google.com.au/books?id=K-bPk63H40gC&pg=PA398&dq=whyman+thanet+holidaymaking+1981&hl=en&ei=3UZxTYiFF82ecdyy2PgC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=whyman%20thanet%20holidaymaking%201981&f=false  > > Many Names & really full of good info & enjoyable > to read. > > I tried ringing the library but got the times totally > mucked up.  Am hoping > that some kind person might know or find out if the tree > still exists?  anyone > got a copy? > > Barbara Callcott > > > >       > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

"George FARDELL in April 1946 deposited in Broadstairs Public Library the family tree of the White family, showing that during the sixteenth century Thomas WHITE of Broadstairs, Isle of Thanet, Kent, was father to Elizabeth born 1582, Richard and John, twins, born 1583, Robert born 1586, and Solomon born 1588." Source of quote is footnote on page 28 of John Whyman's "Aspects of Holidaymaking and Resort Development Within the Isle of Thanet, With Particular Reference to Margate, Circa 1736 to Circa 1840"published 1981 in series "dissertations in european economic history" part seeable at http://books.google.com.au/books?id=K-bPk63H40gC&pg=PA398&dq=whyman+thanet+holidaymaking+1981&hl=en&ei=3UZxTYiFF82ecdyy2PgC&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=3&ved=0CEEQ6AEwAg#v=onepage&q=whyman%20thanet%20holidaymaking%201981&f=false Many Names & really full of good info & enjoyable to read. I tried ringing the library but got the times totally mucked up. Am hoping that some kind person might know or find out if the tree still exists? anyone got a copy? Barbara Callcott

>From The Morning Post ( London, England ), Saturday, April 04, 1857; pg.8; Issue 25978. MARRIED. BATCHELOR - JARMAN. - On the 28th ult., at St. Peter's Eaton-square, by the Rev. J. T. BARKER , M.A., Edward J. BATCHELOR , Esq., of Kennington, to Elizabeth, youngest daughter of Captain JARMAN , of Ramsgate.

Don't know if this of interest to anyone  Maureen Sharpe/Neeves/Austen ----- Forwarded Message ---- From: "MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com" <MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com> To: KENT-ENG-L@rootsweb.com Cc: opcsubmissions@kent-opc.org Sent: Friday, 25 February, 2011 16:46:52 Subject: [KENT-ENG] KENT ASSIZES July 30, 1801. >From The Morning Post and Gazetteer (  London, England ), Saturday, August 01, 1801; Issue 10274. KENT  ASSIZES.  Maidstone, Thursday, July 30. Before Mr. Justice  GROSE. James AUSTEN was indicted for having feloniously assaulted James  DEADMAN on the King's highway, at Lock's Bottom, in the county of Kent, and  robbing him of four leather bags, the property of our Sovereign Lord the  King. The prosecutor was the man employed to carry the mail, and was stopped  by the prisoner on the day mentioned in the indictment. He was discovered in  consequence of his having endeavoured to circulate one of the bank notes  contained in the mail. His person was identified, and the Jury found  him  -  Guilty. The Judge immediately passed sentence of death upon  him, and ordered him to be hung in chains at Lock's Bottom, between Farnborough  and Bromley. Richard SMITH , alias JONES , indicted with Charlotte GREEN  , for burglariously breaking open and robbing the house of the Rev. Mr. JEFFRIES  , at Bexley.  SMITH was convicted, the woman acquitted. John MOTBY ,  aged 59, was convicted of stealing a ewe sheep. William WELLS was  indicted, and found guilty of a burglary and robbery in the house of Thomas  WILSON. Edward CLARKE alias William DAVIS , was convicted of breaking and  entering the dwelling house of Joseph MARSH , in Harbleton, in the day time, and  feloniously stealing a brown coat, and a variety of other  property. Thomas FEVER was convicted of stealing a wether lamb, the  property of Thomas BOUCHER , of East Sutton. William JONES was convicted  of stealing a wether sheep, the property of -  OFFIN. Joseph PELLETT and John JENNER were tried and found guilty for  assaulting Thomas MUNN , on the King's highway, and robbing him of a silver  watch, two half guineas, and a six-pence, his property. Before Mr.  GARROW. George MILLS and Richard MARTIN were indicted and found guilty of  sheep-stealing. It appeared they were servants of the prosecutor. Mr. GARROW  addressed them upon the enormity of the offence of which they had been found  guilty, and, in a manner the most impressive, proceeded to pass sentence of  death upon them. A great number of the prisoners were tried by Mr.  GARROW: the manner in which he, for the first time, presided as a Judge, was  precisely that which might have been expected from so eminent an  Advocate. There were 14 sentenced to death, but they were all respited  before the Judges left the town, except James AUSTEN , Richard SMITH , alias  JONES , and Joseph PELLETT , who were ordered for execution.  ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to KENT-ENG-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Print artist Dawn Cole has turned to history for her latest project, inspired by her great aunt, Clarice SPRATLING. Clarice was a nurse during the First World War and at Ramsgate Custom House. Dawn, from Birchington, presents Reading between the Lines based on her relatives belongings and writings. She say "Clarice SPRATLING came from a wealthy family whose associations with Thanet can be traced back to the 13th century and whose family ancestry included the notorious Adam SPRATLING, former owner of the Ellington Park Estate, who murdered his wife in 1652 and was tried and hanged at Sandwich in 1653". Dawn presents a talk about her great aunt this Friday 24th at 11,30am. It will be followed by a question and answer session. Margate Local & Family History

Hi, On the IGI is Mary Ann Nichols born 16/02/1828 christened 01/02/1829 at St John's Margate parents William Nichols and Ann Mikell. Regards Joan.

Hello again have now found the marriage of Mary Ann Nicholls parents William Nich_olls_ and Ann Mikell so thats the first part of my query answered. Where would George and Mary Ann have married in 1852? Were there non conformist marriages at this time? Thanks Lis

Hi List, I have a marriage on BMD records between George Sayer and Mary Ann Nicholls in Thanet 1852. In the census Mary Ann says she was born 1829 Margate. There is a Non conformist birth for a Mary Ann Nicholas in 1829. Would this be her? I cannot find the marriage in the St Johns register. Can someone tell me more about this family? Thanks, Lis

Thank you for this! Margate Local & Family History --- On Mon, 7/2/11, MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com <MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com> wrote: > From: MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com <MICHAELCOOMBER@aol.com> > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Miss V. N. WEHRHAHN ( WILKINSON ) ( 1923 ) > To: Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com > Cc: opcsubmissions@kent-opc.org > Date: Monday, 7 February, 2011, 18:13 > > >From The Times, Monday, Jul 09, 1923;  pg. 9; > Issue 43388; col G > > Miss Violet Norah WEHRHAHN ( generally known as  > Violet Norah WILKINSON ) > of Rough-way, Cornwall-gardens, Cliftonville, Kent, > has  applied to the Home > Secretary for naturalization.  > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

I received this link from another list I belong to: http://www.kentarchaeology.org.uk/Research/Maps/MAR/02.htm Best wishes Elizabeth

Barbara I downloaded the file you mentioned from Internet Archive. The immediately relevant item is as follows: 314. Descendants of Dudley St. Leger of St. John, Thanet (Table XXVII.), d, 1642; m. Anne, da. of (—) (who m. 2ndly,1644, Samuel Hussey of Ulcombe, co. Kent, and) d. 1646 ; and had issue (with a son, Warham, d. young) la to 3a. la. Anthony St. Leger, b. 1637. 2a. Dudley St. Leger of Maidstone in 1663 and Deal 1694, b. 1639; d. (-) m. 1st, 1663/4, Winifred [da. of (—)] Home of Deal; 2ndly, 1694, Mary, widow of (—) Weller of Deal; and had issue lb to 2b. lb. Edward St. Leger of Deal, Surgeon, b. 1665; d. 1729; m. 1702, Elizabeth, da. of Charles Bargrave of Eastry ; and had issue (with 4 other children d.v.p.) lc to 2c. Ic. Edward St. Leger. 2c. Mary St. Leger, m. John Cannon, and was ancestress of Id. Id. Edward St. Leger Cannon of the Glen, Waltner, Admiral R.N., living 1867. 2b. John St. Leger, living 28 June 1711. 3a. Anne St. Leger, b. 1641 ; d. (-) ; m. 1666, the Rev. Nicholas White, Vicar of St. Peter's, Thanet. There is of course a lot more. Let me know what else you may need. -- Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) *contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk* *http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk* Facebook: baldockfaggfamily <http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily> Twitter: @baldockfaggfam <http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam>

>From The Times, Tuesday, Jul 20, 1926; pg.1; Issue 44328; col A DEATH. GODWIN - HAMMACK. - On Tuesday, 13th July, 1926, at Cliftonville, Kent, Rupert GODWIN - HAMMACK , late of 86, Marine-parade, Brighton, Sussex, youngest son of the late Arthur GODWIN - HAMMACK, of Littlehampton, Sussex, aged 45 years.

>From The Times, Monday, Jul 09, 1923; pg. 9; Issue 43388; col G Miss Violet Norah WEHRHAHN ( generally known as Violet Norah WILKINSON ) of Rough-way, Cornwall-gardens, Cliftonville, Kent, has applied to the Home Secretary for naturalization.

>From The Times, Thursday, Feb 09, 1922; pg. 13; Issue 42951; col D WILL AND BEQUESTS. Mr. Edward James MAHER-SMITH, of New Cavendish-street, W., and Waveley, Cliftonville, Kent, formerly of Sarawak, who died on October 28, has left property of the value of £18,334. Subject to a legacy of £100, the testator leaves everything in trust for his wife for life and then to his children, failing whom:- £2,000 to the Boustead Institute for Seamen, Singapore, £2,000 to the Straits Settlements Benevolent Society, £2,000 to the Swansea General and Eye Hospital, £1,000 to Guy's Hospital, £1,000 to the National Lifeboat Institution, and one-fourth of the residue each to the three first-named institutions, and one-eight each to the two latter.

>From The Times, Saturday, Aug 03, 1889; pg. 1; Issue 32768; col A. DEATH. On the 30th July, at Cliftonville, Kent, after a long illness, Alexander MYBURGH , Barrister-at-law, late of Shanghai, China, aged 41 years.

Greetings Joan from http://familytreemaker.genealogy.com/users/s/t/l/Rosemary-May/GENE2-0049.html ANNEST. LEGER, b. 1641, Great Mongeham; m. NICHOLASWHITE, 13 Jul 1666, Canterbury, Kent. states that this Nicholas White is the Vicar of St Peters Anne St Leger given as daughter of DUDLEYST. LEGERand ANNE - of St John, Thanet Dudley St Leger's Will dated 14 March 1642 is transcript in Society of Genealogist from google booksThe Plantagenet Roll of the Blood Royal: The Mortimer-Percy - Page 491 Marquis of Ruvigny and Raineval Staff - 2001 - 636 pages - Preview . 3a. Anne St. Leger, b. 1641 ; d. (-) ; m. 1666, the Rev. Nicholas White ... BUT can't see the actual page. Have checked Cowper's Canterbury Marriage licences Third Series 1661-1676 which gives "White, Nicholas, clerk, vicar of S. Peter in Thanet, ba. 25, and Ann St. Leger of Great Mongeham, v., 25. At G. Mongeham or Wingham. Edward Crayford of Cant., g and Anthony St. Leger of G Mongeham, g., bonds. July 13, 1666" so a bit of uncertainty as to where marriage happened. all the best Barbara Callcott Message: 3 Date: Sun, 6 Feb 2011 16:44:21 -0000 From: "Joan Leary" <joan.leary@ntlworld.com> Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Nicholas Whyte To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <!&!AAAAAAAAAAAYAAAAAAAAAJQ9A/GGvxBGmDCITm3SlkPCgAAAEAAAACbOC6G/vNRKiMkObbc5eJUBAAAAAA==@ntlworld.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Can anybody help with tracing the first marriage of the above, I have all family details and info regarding his second marriage and the children from it but cannot find out who his first wife was or if there were any children. His details are:- Nicholas Whyte born 1640 in Sandwich (thought to have attended Sir Roger Manwood school in Sandwich) Ordained London 1668 Priest of Ely 1667 Vicar of St Peters Broadstairs 1666 to 1712 died in 1715/17 Married Patience Sackett 15/11/1671 the daughter of Stephen Sackett clerk of Cosmos and Damien at Blean. He is stated as a widower Any help will be very much appreciated. Regards Joan. ------------------------------ To contact the ISLE-OF-THANET list administrator, send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the ISLE-OF-THANET mailing list, send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of ISLE-OF-THANET Digest, Vol 6, Issue 22 *********************************************

Can anybody help with tracing the first marriage of the above, I have all family details and info regarding his second marriage and the children from it but cannot find out who his first wife was or if there were any children. His details are:- Nicholas Whyte born 1640 in Sandwich (thought to have attended Sir Roger Manwood school in Sandwich) Ordained London 1668 Priest of Ely 1667 Vicar of St Peters Broadstairs 1666 to 1712 died in 1715/17 Married Patience Sackett 15/11/1671 the daughter of Stephen Sackett clerk of Cosmos and Damien at Blean. He is stated as a widower Any help will be very much appreciated. Regards Joan.