Hi there, I hope I'm not being too cheeky in asking this but, if someone is wandering around St Mary's graveyard in Minster in this gorgeous sunshine, please could I ask a very big favour? I believe my great grandparents are buried there - Walter & Ellen EASTLAND. I would love to know what it says on their Memorial Inscription. I would also be interested in knowing if there are any other EASTLAND graves. I don't know how big a job this would be but I would appreciate any help :O) Thank you & best wishes Vanda (Isle of Wight) ___________________________________________________________ Tiscali Broadband from 14.99 with free setup! http://www.tiscali.co.uk/products/broadband/

Although no picture, I did find two other stones near this memorial Emily Gertrude DIKE Died 13th February 1970 aged 73 Life for everyone Ella Blanche Sister of the above Who died 10th July 1977 ...................................... In loving memory of Thomas Seymour DIKE Who died 25th October 1928 aged 45 years Also of Rosina Ellen DIKE Who died 14th July 1949 aged 55 years ..................................... In loving memory of a dear mother Charlotte Widow of the late John Benjamin DIKE Passed away March 3rd 1943 in her 90th year. From: "suzannah.foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> Subject: DIKE Memorial Stone Margate Cemetery - Friend to all Nations Date: Mon, 3 Jul 2006 16:15:07 +0100 In loving memory of John Benjamin DIKE Who was drowned by the capsizing of the Surf Lifeboat Friend to All Nations Off Margate on Thursday 2nd December 1897 aged 41 years A Loving husband true and kind He proved to be in heart and mind A loving father too as well When he on earth with us did dwell The cup was bitter the sting severe To part with one we love so dear. Hard is our trial we'll not complain But trust in Christ to meet again -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.0/388 - Release Date: 7/13/06

This address was posted on the London List recently http://users.nwon.com/pauline/Travellers.html Ann in Brisbane ----- Original Message ----- From: "suzannah.foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, July 14, 2006 1:56 AM Subject: [IoT] Francis( Frank) Bulkley Byng - Musician > Stephanie below is trying to trace an entertainer in the family, has > anyone > heard of him, or does anyone have any tips on how to trace "musicians"? > Please reply direct to Stephanie. > > I am trying to help my father in law trace information relating to his > grandfather who was believed to have worked as a musician in Margate. He > lived in Herne Bay and died on 29th March 1939 in Herne Bay. His name was > Francis( Frank) Bulkley Byng and possibly played in some kind of band with > his brother George Wilford Bulkley Byng although some of this is hearsay. > stephanie.barker@tiscali.co.uk > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.0/388 - Release Date: 7/13/06 > >

Stephanie below is trying to trace an entertainer in the family, has anyone heard of him, or does anyone have any tips on how to trace "musicians"? Please reply direct to Stephanie. I am trying to help my father in law trace information relating to his grandfather who was believed to have worked as a musician in Margate. He lived in Herne Bay and died on 29th March 1939 in Herne Bay. His name was Francis( Frank) Bulkley Byng and possibly played in some kind of band with his brother George Wilford Bulkley Byng although some of this is hearsay. stephanie.barker@tiscali.co.uk -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.10.0/388 - Release Date: 7/13/06

Hello James Thanks for the information on Twyman/Thomson. I will follow it up Thanks also for your database on World Connect. It was that database that gave me Samuel Bloxham Trumpeter and Jane Twyman. I have discovered more in the last month than I have in the last four years. I think that I am going to have about four years work ahead of me sorting through all my leads. This Thanet site has been wonderful. Thanks John

Dear Chris, I'm a little behind with reading the mail, but there are two people on Genes Reunited interested in Violet CLARK born 1921 Stepney. You might also want to have a look at the following births: Clark Charles F Mother's maiden name - Montague Woolwich. Vol 1d Page 2957 1st Qtr 1920 Clark May E Mother's maiden name - Montague Stepney. Vol 1c Page 328 4th Qtr 1918 Best wishes Elizabeth Misterchris4686@aol.com wrote: >I know this is a bit of cheek but I am against the brick wall and I am now >resorting to any means known unto mankind! As far as I know there is no >connection with Kent let alone the IOT but here goes anyway. > >My mother's brother Ernest Hubert Clark was severely gassed in WW1 and >eventually died of his injuries in February 1927. He had married but nobody could >remember (and they are all long gone now) who she was. They knew there were >children but again nothing really known. After Ernest's death Alice remarried >and contact was lost. Thanks to the Internet I have now discovered the >marriage of Ernest Hubert Clark to Alice Elizabeth Montague on 12th January 1916 at >St. Matthew's, Stepney. I have also discovered at least two of their >children (I have copies of the birth certificates). Violet Clark was born 7th April >1921 in Stepney and Ernest George Albert Clark on 27th July 1925 in Mile End. > >I know it is a very long shot but is there, by any remote chance, anybody >who has come across any of these names either in their family research or just >acquaintance. I have cousins whom I have never met and they might now be dead >but they might have given me second cousins! > >Chris > > > >

John Trumpeter wrote > I haven't done much on the Twymans yet since I only discovered the > connections recently. I am interested in Jane (Thom(p)son) Twyman born > Margate 1813 died 1835 who had a sister Susanna. Jane was my great great > grandmother and was married to William Trumpeter( the records have > Tripiter > or Tripitie) in 1832 and subsequently to Henry Bloxham. I will be working > backwards and forwards from Jane. I am particularly interested in the > Thomson part of the name. (sometimes there is a "p" in it). I have found > a > marriage of an earlier Jane Twyman to a Thomson at St Johns in Margate. > My > great grandfather was given the name Thomson as a middle name. Who was > this > other Jane Twyman and who was Thomson? > John There is a marriage of Stephen TWYMAN & Jane THOMPSON at St Peters, Broadstairs 25 Nov 1805. I think that these could be Jane TWYMAN's parents but I am not able to look at St Peters parish records to check. James Duly > >

Hello Sheila and list I haven't done much on the Twymans yet since I only discovered the connections recently. I am interested in Jane (Thom(p)son) Twyman born Margate 1813 died 1835 who had a sister Susanna. Jane was my great great grandmother and was married to William Trumpeter( the records have Tripiter or Tripitie) in 1832 and subsequently to Henry Bloxham. I will be working backwards and forwards from Jane. I am particularly interested in the Thomson part of the name. (sometimes there is a "p" in it). I have found a marriage of an earlier Jane Twyman to a Thomson at St Johns in Margate. My great grandfather was given the name Thomson as a middle name. Who was this other Jane Twyman and who was Thomson? Thanks John

Hello Elizabeth and list Thanks for your e-mails on the Trumpeters. The 1841 census details were very useful and solved some problems, but created more. They are not really problems though, more like new leads. "Bonnie" has pointed out the relationships, both in 1841 and later, between the various people living in the house at the time of the census. As you said there is no mention of my g g grandfather William Trumpeter but my g g grandmother's second husband-to-be Henry Bloxham is living in the house. Although this does not prove that William is dead it does suggest that he might be. The other interesting point is that there is a William living there and that is my g g grandmother's eldest son. Since I had only found one mention of him before, on Genes Re-united, I had assumed that he had died at birth. However here he is at 8 years old. The new problem is what happened to him. There is no mention of him in the 1851 census although the rest of the family is mentioned. At 18, though, he has probably left home, but I don't know where he has gone. He, too, could have died, but I have not found any records of it. Your mention of the KCC BMD was very useful. I had not come across this site before and it too solved some problems. I spent an hour or so on that site just putting in the Trumpeter name and the year (working from 1837 to 1992). Apparently only the marriages are in that date range since the births and deaths only go from 1992 to 2002. However the marriages proved useful. I had discovered previously, incorrectly as it turned out, that my great grandfather Edward James Thomson Trumpeter married a Mercy Botton in 1861. I had had great difficulty finding many Bottons in the area so I had been wondering where she came from. I had found this information on FreeBMD and I had loaded down the relevant image of the marriage index. The Botton name was in the correct alphabetical position in the index but I still wasn't convinced. So I have been looking for Bottons, Bottens and Buttons. There seemed to be more Buttons in the Thanet area so I was starting to assume that the person who compiled the index had made a transcription error. However, when I looked on the KCC BMD site I could not tie any of these names in with a marriage to my great grandfather. In desperation I eventually tried "Mercy Bo" and that solved the problem. It immediately came back with Mercy Bolton. This corresponded with my grandfathers marriage details exactly. I just had not thought about the first l in Bolton changing from an l to a t to form Botton. When I looked up Bolton on freeBMD there were several thousand BMD's in Kent and several hundred in Kent. So, the original indexer had made a mistake back in 1861. Probably not his/her fault though. The Vicars handwriting may have been difficult to read and the indexing job would have been boring. Any way I will be investigating the Bolton name, so if anyone has a Mercy Bolton in their tree (b1835? d1900 ?) please let me know. I also found the marriage of a Jean Trumpeter in 1942. I think that she was the daughter of William Edward Henry Trumpeter (My father's eldest brother) and perhaps had a brother called Billy Trumpeter. Does anyone know who she married? She may even still be alive. Thanks John

Jean Trumpeter married Thomas Hanley: Name: HANLEY, Thomas, , Year of Marriage: 1942 Entry Number: 94 Register: T/29/3 Location: THANET AND DOVER Name: TRUMPETER, Jean, , Year of Marriage: 1942 Entry Number: 94 Register: T/29/3 Location: THANET AND DOVER BUT: If you search the KCC web site with just a T as the last name, you'll find this: Name: TRUMPTER, Jean, , Year of Marriage: 1942 Entry Number: 94 Register: T/29/3 Location: THANET AND DOVER So you'll need to consult the PR's for this one. There is a Jean TRUMPETER in the GRO index for 1920: Trumpeter Jean M Mother's maiden name - Harvey Blything. Vol 4a Page 2333 2nd Qtr 1920 Best wishes Elizabeth John Nathaniel Trumpeter wrote: >Hello Elizabeth and list > >Thanks for your e-mails on the Trumpeters. > >The 1841 census details were very useful and solved some problems, but >created more. They are not really problems though, more like new leads. >"Bonnie" has pointed out the relationships, both in 1841 and later, between >the various people living in the house at the time of the census. As you >said there is no mention of my g g grandfather William Trumpeter but my g g >grandmother's second husband-to-be Henry Bloxham is living in the house. >Although this does not prove that William is dead it does suggest that he >might be. The other interesting point is that there is a William living >there and that is my g g grandmother's eldest son. Since I had only found >one mention of him before, on Genes Re-united, I had assumed that he had >died at birth. However here he is at 8 years old. The new problem is what >happened to him. There is no mention of him in the 1851 census although the >rest of the family is mentioned. At 18, though, he has probably left home, >but I don't know where he has gone. He, too, could have died, but I have >not found any records of it. > >Your mention of the KCC BMD was very useful. I had not come across this >site before and it too solved some problems. I spent an hour or so on that >site just putting in the Trumpeter name and the year (working from 1837 to >1992). Apparently only the marriages are in that date range since the >births and deaths only go from 1992 to 2002. However the marriages proved >useful. I had discovered previously, incorrectly as it turned out, that my >great grandfather Edward James Thomson Trumpeter married a Mercy Botton in >1861. I had had great difficulty finding many Bottons in the area so I had >been wondering where she came from. I had found this information on FreeBMD >and I had loaded down the relevant image of the marriage index. The Botton >name was in the correct alphabetical position in the index but I still >wasn't convinced. So I have been looking for Bottons, Bottens and Buttons. >There seemed to be more Buttons in the Thanet area so I was starting to >assume that the person who compiled the index had made a transcription >error. However, when I looked on the KCC BMD site I could not tie any of >these names in with a marriage to my great grandfather. In desperation I >eventually tried "Mercy Bo" and that solved the problem. It immediately >came back with Mercy Bolton. This corresponded with my grandfathers >marriage details exactly. I just had not thought about the first l in >Bolton changing from an l to a t to form Botton. When I looked up Bolton on >freeBMD there were several thousand BMD's in Kent and several hundred in >Kent. So, the original indexer had made a mistake back in 1861. Probably >not his/her fault though. The Vicars handwriting may have been difficult to >read and the indexing job would have been boring. Any way I will be >investigating the Bolton name, so if anyone has a Mercy Bolton in their tree >(b1835? d1900 ?) please let me know. > >I also found the marriage of a Jean Trumpeter in 1942. I think that she was >the daughter of William Edward Henry Trumpeter (My father's eldest brother) >and perhaps had a brother called Billy Trumpeter. Does anyone know who she >married? She may even still be alive. > >Thanks > >John > > > >

MARRIAGES. On Tuesday, the 3d inst., at Mallow Church, by the Rev. A. Baldwin, A.B., assisted by the Rev.Sackville Hamilton, A.B., James T. Friend, Esq., of Northdown, Margate, to Frances Adelaide, youngest daughter of Frances Evans, Esq., of Mallow. The Cork Examiner, 6 August 1862 Frances above died NOv 1874. -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.10/383 - Release Date: 7/7/06

Hello, I am new to the list, having just found a Carolyn DUNKIN born Margate about 1790 married Lewis LYON 1815 Fleet Street, London. Does anyone have any connections please? best wishes chrissie

Hi Listers Although Sir Austen Layard was born in Paris (5 March 1817), his mother was Marianne Austen of Ramsgate. Her father was Nathaniel Austen, banker of Ramsgate. Nathaniel's brother was Benjamin, a solicitor of London and friend of Benjamin Disraeli. I have a number of Nathaniel Austens of Ramsgate, and Benjamins as well, and am hoping someone on the list can help me establish connections. Can anyone help with information on Marianne Austen please; or Nathaniel the banker. Brian Austen Austen Families, histories and research. www.trump.net.au/~austen/austenhist.htm

Hi Chris, Your Ernest George Albert is dead. here is the index record from Ancestry England & Wales, Death Index: 1984-2004 Record about Ernest George A Clark Name: Ernest George A Clark Birth Date: 27 Jul 1925 Death Registration Month/Year: Jan 1998 Age at death (estimated): 72 Registration District: Northampton Inferred County: Northamptonshire Register Number: C55B Entry number: 175 HTH Anne On 7 Jul 2006, at 15:11, Misterchris4686@aol.com wrote: > I know this is a bit of cheek but I am against the brick wall and I am > now > resorting to any means known unto mankind! As far as I know there is no > connection with Kent let alone the IOT but here goes anyway. > > My mother's brother Ernest Hubert Clark was severely gassed in WW1 and > eventually died of his injuries in February 1927. He had married but > nobody could > remember (and they are all long gone now) who she was. They knew there > were > children but again nothing really known. After Ernest's death Alice > remarried > and contact was lost. Thanks to the Internet I have now discovered the > marriage of Ernest Hubert Clark to Alice Elizabeth Montague on 12th > January 1916 at > St. Matthew's, Stepney. I have also discovered at least two of their > children (I have copies of the birth certificates). Violet Clark was > born 7th April > 1921 in Stepney and Ernest George Albert Clark on 27th July 1925 in > Mile End. > > I know it is a very long shot but is there, by any remote chance, > anybody > who has come across any of these names either in their family research > or just > acquaintance. I have cousins whom I have never met and they might now > be dead > but they might have given me second cousins! > > Chris >

Don't know about Trumpeters but I do have some Twymans. Sheila ----- Original Message ----- From: "suzannah.foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:31 PM Subject: Trumpter, Twyman and Bloxham > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "John Nathaniel Trumpeter" > <johnntrumpeter@johnntrumpeter.free-online.co.uk> > To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L-request@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:20 PM > Subject: subscribe > > >> >> subscribe >> >> I am researching the name of Trumpeter in Margate and Ramsgate. >> >> I am interested in the Twyman/Trumpeter/Bloxham links that I have been > reading about on this list. >> >> Am I the last of the Thanet Trumpeters? >> >> John Nathaniel Trumpeter >> >> >> >> -- >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG Free Edition. >> Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/06 >> >> > > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/06 > > ______________________________

I know this is a bit of cheek but I am against the brick wall and I am now resorting to any means known unto mankind! As far as I know there is no connection with Kent let alone the IOT but here goes anyway. My mother's brother Ernest Hubert Clark was severely gassed in WW1 and eventually died of his injuries in February 1927. He had married but nobody could remember (and they are all long gone now) who she was. They knew there were children but again nothing really known. After Ernest's death Alice remarried and contact was lost. Thanks to the Internet I have now discovered the marriage of Ernest Hubert Clark to Alice Elizabeth Montague on 12th January 1916 at St. Matthew's, Stepney. I have also discovered at least two of their children (I have copies of the birth certificates). Violet Clark was born 7th April 1921 in Stepney and Ernest George Albert Clark on 27th July 1925 in Mile End. I know it is a very long shot but is there, by any remote chance, anybody who has come across any of these names either in their family research or just acquaintance. I have cousins whom I have never met and they might now be dead but they might have given me second cousins! Chris

Hi Lou and members of this list Yes, a comment made with tounge in cheek! I am currently working on a reply to Elizabeth Clark who sent me some very useful information. I think that the volunteers that gather all the birth, marriage and death information are doing a wonderful job. And those people compiling parish records and complete censuses for an area are doing an astounding job. I am not so happy with a clerk in 1861 who mis-transcribed Botton for Bolton, but then I wouldn't have wanted to produce those quarterly marriage indexes. It must have been really boring. John

On 5 Jul 2006 at 21:16, John Nathaniel Trumpeter wrote: > And if it isn't on the internet it doesn't exist! > A statement, I trust, made in jest. A lot of volunteers are working to bring resources to the 'Net, but it ain't all there, yet. Lou

Hello everyone This is my first post. I want to start at the beginning. When did the Trumpeters arrive in Margate? My first, fairly certain, discovery of a Trumpeter is the wedding at St John's church Margate of a William Tripiter or Tripitie (the LDS IGI has both spellings) to Jane Twyman in 1832. I am sure that this is William Trumpeter. The two separate spellings in the IGI suggest that the original handwriting is difficult to read. I have checked the internet using Google for both Tripiter and Tripitie and have found nothing. And if it isn't on the internet it doesn't exist! On Genes Reunited a "Ronnie" has a William Trumpeter being born in 1810. Could this be the same William. The age is about right for Marriage in 1832. I do not know where "Ronnie" got this information. So where were the Trumpeters before 1832 (or 1810 possibly). I suspect that they came from either Suffolk or London. When did William Trumpeter die? If Jane married later to Henry Bloxham was William dead, divorced or deserted? I would like the date of death so that I can decide which of Janes children were Williams and which Henry's. There seems to be some confusion about this point in the list messages that I have read. I am going to e-mail Yvonne and James Duly separately, as well as discuss the Trumpeter/Twyman/Bloxham affair on this list. Later I will be asking about "Botton", "Meredith", the Trumpeter move to Ramsgate, boat buliders and vanishing Ramsgate streeets. Thanks for any help John Nathaniel Trumpeter Thanks

----- Original Message ----- From: "John Nathaniel Trumpeter" <johnntrumpeter@johnntrumpeter.free-online.co.uk> To: <Isle-of-Thanet-L-request@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 05, 2006 8:20 PM Subject: subscribe > > subscribe > > I am researching the name of Trumpeter in Margate and Ramsgate. > > I am interested in the Twyman/Trumpeter/Bloxham links that I have been reading about on this list. > > Am I the last of the Thanet Trumpeters? > > John Nathaniel Trumpeter > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/06 > > -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.394 / Virus Database: 268.9.9/382 - Release Date: 7/4/06