I have a Thomas STUPPLES born, according to 1841 et al censuses circa 1812-14 in Stelling. He subsequently married an Annie ? who was born circa 1817 in Preston by Wingham. They had five children twixt 1836 and 1856 - all in Stelling. Can anyone help me with the birth and/or marriage details of Thomas. I have a few potential parents but the leap of faith would be too great without backup confirmation. Regards and thanks David Beavis (www.stupples.net)

I will be there to help out on 30th September. For anyone who cannot get there and would like to see what all the fuss is about, just ask and I will send pictures. Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: PJK :o)) To: Suzannah Foad ; Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Saturday, August 19, 2006 4:40 PM Subject: Re: [IoT] Margate's Tudor House open to the Public (Aug 2006) And it's well worth a visit. It's very small, but beautifully formed !! I went years ago, when I was kid & my husband & I took our daughter when she was small. Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent, UK. Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk Margate's Tudor house will finally be opening it's doors to visitors after years of being closed to the public. Built in the early 16th century, during the reign of King Henry VIII, the house is typical of many houses of that period. It is believed that the house would have been one of the largest buildings in Thanet and would have probably belonged to a wealthy framer of brewer. The oldest deeds can be traced back to 1802, when the Tudor House was a farmhouse owned by Francis Cobb. In 1815 the building was converted into three cottages and the lower part of the exterior was plastered over. Inside the oak panelling was covered with wall paper and the beams were plastered over. The roof was damaged in World war Two, when vibration bombs led to it tilting forward. Restoration work started to return the house to its former glory in 1951 when the panelling was restored and the windows and doorframes resited. Now, thanks to a partnership between Thanet District Council and the East Kent maritime Trust, which is providing the resources to open the house, visitors and residents will at long last have the chance to see inside. Admission is free. It will open between 10am and 3.30pm September 30th no booking required but a private tours can be pre booked for Friday 25th Aug and September 1st by Phoning 01843 290399

And it's well worth a visit. It's very small, but beautifully formed !! I went years ago, when I was kid & my husband & I took our daughter when she was small. Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent, UK. Your county needs YOU !!! http://FreeCEN.rootsweb.com Looking for ancestors in Kent ? Try: http://www.kent-opc.org.uk/ www.lawrence.eastkentgenealogy.co.uk Margate's Tudor house will finally be opening it's doors to visitors after years of being closed to the public. Built in the early 16th century, during the reign of King Henry VIII, the house is typical of many houses of that period. It is believed that the house would have been one of the largest buildings in Thanet and would have probably belonged to a wealthy framer of brewer. The oldest deeds can be traced back to 1802, when the Tudor House was a farmhouse owned by Francis Cobb. In 1815 the building was converted into three cottages and the lower part of the exterior was plastered over. Inside the oak panelling was covered with wall paper and the beams were plastered over. The roof was damaged in World war Two, when vibration bombs led to it tilting forward. Restoration work started to return the house to its former glory in 1951 when the panelling was restored and the windows and doorframes resited. Now, thanks to a partnership between Thanet District Council and the East Kent maritime Trust, which is providing the resources to open the house, visitors and residents will at long last have the chance to see inside. Admission is free. It will open between 10am and 3.30pm September 30th no booking required but a private tours can be pre booked for Friday 25th Aug and September 1st by Phoning 01843 290399

Margate's Tudor house will finally be opening it's doors to visitors after years of being closed to the public. Built in the early 16th century, during the reign of King Henry VIII, the house is typical of many houses of that period. It is believed that the house would have been one of the largest buildings in Thanet and would have probably belonged to a wealthy framer of brewer. The oldest deeds can be traced back to 1802, when the Tudor House was a farmhouse owned by Francis Cobb. In 1815 the building was converted into three cottages and the lower part of the exterior was plastered over. Inside the oak panelling was covered with wall paper and the beams were plastered over. The roof was damaged in World war Two, when vibration bombs led to it tilting forward. Restoration work started to return the house to its former glory in 1951 when the panelling was restored and the windows and doorframes resited. Now, thanks to a partnership between Thanet District Council and the East Kent maritime Trust, which is providing the resources to open the house, visitors and residents will at long last have the chance to see inside. Admission is free. It will open between 10am and 3.30pm September 30th no booking required but a private tours can be pre booked for Friday 25th Aug and September 1st by Phoning 01843 290399

Nine years ago two members of the Ramsgate Society decided to bring the rich and varied past of the town to life with an organised costumed walk. Now, with more than fifteen people, St George's Church warden Jennifer Smith and friend Brenda May help recreate the life and times of former Ramsgate residents and visitors. Here the Ramsgate volunteers take you on the trail of the West Cliff Walk. The West Cliff walk is interesting because of all the glorious architecture, among which are The Grange and St Augustine's Church, designed and built by Augustus Pugin. Pugin, played by John Collard, created all the fittings and interiors of The Grange, including the stained glass window in the chapel showing members often Pugin family and their attendant saints. Pugin loved to look out from the tower of The Grange and watch the ships, and the wrecks on the Goodwin sands. Helen Lumsdaine, Played by Laura Wyness, was a neighbour of Pugin's who helped nurse him when he became ill. Another character people cold see on the walk is Vincent van Gogh's housekeeper Mrs Stokes, played by Jennifer Smith. She looked after him when he came to Ramsgate in 1876 to teach at a boy's school in Royal Road. Architect and artist Mary Townley, born in 1753 bought plots of land in Ramsgate with her lawyer husband. Mary, played by Joan Ansell, designed Townley House and Royal Crescent on the West Cliff. During the war with France they bought land in Spencer Square and Townley Street and built a Barracks for soldiers. Among their visitors were Prince William, later King William IV, and a small Princess Victoria and her mum, the Duchess of Kent. Pugin's aunt Selina Welby, played by Peggy O'Gara lived in Rose Hill Cottage. Novelist Wilkie Collins, Played by Roger Lee was a frequent Ramsgate visitor. His book The Woman In White was written in Thanet. There are many other characters who can be seen on the other walks, including princess Victoria, the artist Frith and South Pole expedition man Sir Ernest Shackleton. During the town centre trip walkers could see a suffragette, 18th century farmer and a pew opener. During the Royal Harbour walk characters include novelist Jane Austen and Quaker Elizabeth Fry. The tours are free but donations towards costumes and leaflets are appreciated. Contact the Ramsgate Society for dates etc. http://www.ramsgate-society.org.uk/

Vandals have torn open coffins from a vault housing relatives of Royalty at St Laurence Cemetery in Ramsgate. During the wrecking spree yobs forced their way into a mausoleum which is resting place of dignitaries including Augustus Frederick D'este a grandson of George III, and former Lord Chancellor Thomas Wilde. The ornate vault, which dates to the 1840's has since been bricked up by council workers and a police investigation is underway. Undergrowth is to be cut back to reduce the number of hiding places available to yobs. Vicar Sharran Ireland was horrified by the damage which was discovered last month. She said " It was quite distressing really. The church was built in 1062 and we have got incredible links with Royalty. It's such a historical building and it's sad it has fallen into the hands of vandalism. The council does its best to help but there are a lot of demands on the local authorities money" Mrs Ireland added the damage comes just months after a churchwarden had her bag stolen by a crook as show strolled through the churchyard. Peter Landi, a Ramsgate Historian, was appealed to hear of the damage at the site. "It has had drug use and antisocial behaviour but it's disappointing to hear it has got to opening coffins. We have had the same sort of thing at Ramsgate cemetery with teddy bears and things being stolen from children's graves". Landlord Alan Moore of the St Lawrence tavern near the Church said the damage was the most shocking example of an ongoing problem which he has witnessed. " I walk frequently through the Churchyard and often you see gravestones which has been broken. A total lack of respect for people and their property says Councillor Jill Kirby. Royal Connections Among these buried in the vandalised graves are John Murray (1732-1809) The fourth Earl of Dunmow. Lady Augusta Murray (1768-1830) The earls daughter who married Prince Augustus Frederick, sixth son of King George III, in Rome. Sir Augustus Frederick (1794-1848) Grandson of George III Lady Augusta Emma D'este (1801-1866) Sir Augustus' Sister Thomas Wilde (1782-1855) Married Lady Augusta, Lord Chancellor, MP and first Baron Truro.

Ray and Kathy, Have since been able to add to this. Near Alfred's stone was one for Castle, are they any relation to Wise? Its just that there was another stone very close to these, with the Wise family inscribed. In ever loving memory of Jane CASTLE The dearly loved wife of Thomas CASTLE Who fell asleep in Jesus May 13th 1902 In her 67th Year My Jesus hath done all things well Sleep on, beloved sleep and take thy rest Lay down they head on thy saviours breast I loved thee well, but Jesus loves us best Also of the above Thomas Castle Who passed through the Crimean War, Indian Mutiny and China War Died January 2nd 1911 Aged 78 years. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith. Pictures will follow Shortly ----- Original Message ----- From: isayers To: SFoad Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Alfred James Jones - gravestone Suzannah, The Digest version has just arrived. Alfred James (husband of Maria Castle) is the son of Richard James Jones. Alfred jnr was born in Brighton SSX 1889c . And I didn't have his death - so many thanks Could I please have a copy too?? Thanks Kathy Hii Suzannah Alfred is a part of my tree though not on the main branch. His father, Alfred J Jones who was married to Marie Castle, was the son of Richard Jones and Elizabeth Sarah Paramor. Elizabeth Sarah was the daughter of Robert Paramor and the sister of George Paramor my great-great grandfather. I would be very grateful for a copy of the picture ----- Original Message ----- From: Cornall15@aol.com To: Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 9:12 PM Subject: [IoT] Alfred T Jones Hii Suzannah Alfred is a part of my tree though not on the main branch. His father, Alfred J Jones who was married to Marie Castle, was the son of Richard Jones and Elizabeth Sarah Paramor. Elizabeth Sarah was the daughter of Robert Paramor and the sister of George Paramor my great-great grandfather. I would be very grateful for a copy of the picture Ray

Any members who are researching the following names may be interested to see my web site at http://homepages.tesco.net/n.crofts which is in the course of development. Regards, Norman Crofts Crofts and Vidler Family Trees Surname list ABBOTT (20) ALEXANDRE (1) ALLIN (1) ANN (1) AYLSOPP (1) BAKER (1) BALDOCK (1) BAYLEY (1) BEALBY (1) BILLINGHURST (19) BLANCHARD (4) BONWICK (1) BROWN (6) BROWNING (17) CARD (1) CASTLE (1) CHITTENDEN (11) COLBRAND (1) COLE (22) CRAFTE (11) CREED (7) CROFTS (59) CULVER (1) DAVID (12) DAVIES (1) DENN (1) DINES (5) DRAY (3) EPSE (4) FAIRALL (16) FAIRMAN (1) FULLER (2) FURMENGER (1) GAIGE (5) GILBERT (1) GOFFINGH (1) GOFINCH (3) GORE (1) GRIGGS (2) HAMBROOK (2) HOAD (1) HYDER (2) INMETT ? (1) JACK? (1) KITE (1) MERCHANT (1) MOCKETT (1) MOUNT (1) NEAME (3) NOLDRIDGE (2) NORWOOD (4) PAIN (1) PEIRSE (2) PHILLIPS (3) PHILPOTT (6) PREBBLE (53) REEVE (1) REEVES (11) RIGDEN (2) RYE (44) SACRE (19) SAMPSON (10) SARJEANT (1) SATERTON (12) SAUNDERS (9) SIMONS (1) SMITH (20) SPENCER (1) SQUEDIN (2) STEWARD (8) SYMONS (2) TAYLOR (1) TERRY (3) THOMPSON (1) VIDLER (34) VIDLER (OR VITLER) (1) WATSON (3) WATTSONE (1) WICKENS (1) WOODMAN (1)

Ray and Kathy, Have since been able to add to this. Near Alfred's stone was one for Castle, are they any relation to Wise? Its just that there was another stone very close to these, with the Wise family inscribed. In ever loving memory of Jane CASTLE The dearly loved wife of Thomas CASTLE Who fell asleep in Jesus May 13th 1902 In her 67th Year My Jesus hath done all things well Sleep on, beloved sleep and take thy rest Lay down they head on thy saviours breast I loved thee well, but Jesus loves us best Also of the above Thomas Castle Who passed through the Crimean War, Indian Mutiny and China War Died January 2nd 1911 Aged 78 years. I have fought a good fight, I have finished my course, I have kept the faith. Pictures will follow Shortly ----- Original Message ----- From: isayers To: SFoad Sent: Saturday, August 12, 2006 1:18 PM Subject: Alfred James Jones - gravestone Suzannah, The Digest version has just arrived. Alfred James (husband of Maria Castle) is the son of Richard James Jones. Alfred jnr was born in Brighton SSX 1889c . And I didn't have his death - so many thanks Could I please have a copy too?? Thanks Kathy Hii Suzannah Alfred is a part of my tree though not on the main branch. His father, Alfred J Jones who was married to Marie Castle, was the son of Richard Jones and Elizabeth Sarah Paramor. Elizabeth Sarah was the daughter of Robert Paramor and the sister of George Paramor my great-great grandfather. I would be very grateful for a copy of the picture

Do you have a date of birth for Eliza? Found one c.1837, daughter of William who are in Ramsgate in 1851 Census but she was born Margate. This William is a Labourer though. ----- Original Message ----- From: Queenie Johnson To: Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, August 11, 2006 7:37 PM Subject: [IoT] Packer Is anyone researching the surname PACKER? I have a James William Hewett, 22 yrs who married Eliza Packer at St John's, Margate in Feb 1861. James was a cabinet maker and Eliza'a father is given as William Packer, gent. Will be glad of any clues as towhere to look.I know there were a lot of that name in Ramsgate, but William's address is given just as Margate. Thanks. Queenie Johnson _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Thanks again Suzannah for all your hard work. Ray

Is anyone researching the surname PACKER? I have a James William Hewett, 22 yrs who married Eliza Packer at St John's, Margate in Feb 1861. James was a cabinet maker and Eliza'a father is given as William Packer, gent. Will be glad of any clues as towhere to look.I know there were a lot of that name in Ramsgate, but William's address is given just as Margate. Thanks. Queenie Johnson _________________________________________________________________ Be the first to hear what's new at MSN - sign up to our free newsletters! http://www.msn.co.uk/newsletters

Do anyone have an Alfred Thomas Jones. Eldest Son of A J and M Jones and Grandson of Thomas Castle He lost his life in the sinking of the hospital transport ship the Arcadian April 15th 1917 aged 38 years? I have been forwarded a picture of his grave/memorial in Margate. Regards Suzannah

Hii Suzannah Alfred is a part of my tree though not on the main branch. His father, Alfred J Jones who was married to Marie Castle, was the son of Richard Jones and Elizabeth Sarah Paramor. Elizabeth Sarah was the daughter of Robert Paramor and the sister of George Paramor my great-great grandfather. I would be very grateful for a copy of the picture Ray

Slightly OT. Get the Kleenex out - family history ebay item made me mop a tear. http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/FAMILY-HISTORY-in-PHOTOGRAPHS-WW2-RAF-WRENS_W0QQitemZ130014755140QQihZ003QQcategoryZ4727QQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem It drew my attention because my mother was a Wren station in Ramsgate during the war and she came from Yorkshire. The wedding dress and brooch got me - how sweet is that. Judith Goldfinch Hall.

Will contact her, may be easier to type that list up, although copies are in Margate Library Thanks Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Neame To: Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 6:20 PM Subject: RE: [IoT] Birchington Churchyard Yes, Jennie Burgess is her name. I was lucky enough to run into her by chance when I was there, and she was extremely helpful. She also showed me the baptism and marriage records for the church. At that time at least, these were still in the possession of the the church and had not been sent to a central archive or library. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Suzannah Foad [mailto:suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com] Sent: August 8, 2006 9:56 AM To: Laura Neame Cc: isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IoT] Birchington Churchyard Thanks Laura, That would be great. I was doing it for pleasure really and hoping to help others in the process. I have no ancestors there myself. Is it Jennie Burgess you mean? Thanks Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Neame <mailto:neame@okanagan.bc.ca> To: Suzannah Foad <mailto:suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> ; Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: RE: [IoT] Birchington Churchyard Hi Suzannah, I've spent some time in this graveyard looking at the transcriptions. The church archivist (whose name I can't of course remember) has a transcription of all the graves in the church archives. This proved very helpful for some of the hard to read stones. I believe she is also the president of the local historical society, and I will do my best to find her name if you think this would be helpful. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Suzannah Foad [mailto:suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com] Sent: August 8, 2006 9:43 AM To: Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoT] Birchington Churchyard I toured Birchington Churchyard today and will type up as many as I can without going crazy before the weekend. I have covered roughly half of the Graves, I copied every readable stone. I stuck to the main entrance, later stones are here, and around the church itself, where the older stones are, the sandstone memorials have worn away. It a lovely place, quite well kept by the paths and only 30 odd graves which are completely covered by Ivy. I am not sure of the policies in this graveyard, to remove the ivy, so left these. Some stones have to be left for enviromental reasons, but no one around to ask today. I will do my best to finish the rest of the churchyard before the end of the summer. Hope your all enjoying the summer holidays Suzannah

Thanks Laura, That would be great. I was doing it for pleasure really and hoping to help others in the process. I have no ancestors there myself. Is it Jennie Burgess you mean? Thanks Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: Laura Neame To: Suzannah Foad ; Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tuesday, August 08, 2006 5:50 PM Subject: RE: [IoT] Birchington Churchyard Hi Suzannah, I've spent some time in this graveyard looking at the transcriptions. The church archivist (whose name I can't of course remember) has a transcription of all the graves in the church archives. This proved very helpful for some of the hard to read stones. I believe she is also the president of the local historical society, and I will do my best to find her name if you think this would be helpful. Laura -----Original Message----- From: Suzannah Foad [mailto:suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com] Sent: August 8, 2006 9:43 AM To: Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IoT] Birchington Churchyard I toured Birchington Churchyard today and will type up as many as I can without going crazy before the weekend. I have covered roughly half of the Graves, I copied every readable stone. I stuck to the main entrance, later stones are here, and around the church itself, where the older stones are, the sandstone memorials have worn away. It a lovely place, quite well kept by the paths and only 30 odd graves which are completely covered by Ivy. I am not sure of the policies in this graveyard, to remove the ivy, so left these. Some stones have to be left for enviromental reasons, but no one around to ask today. I will do my best to finish the rest of the churchyard before the end of the summer. Hope your all enjoying the summer holidays Suzannah

Sacred to the memory of Elizabeth, the wife of Henry SMITH Who died February 4th 1860 aged 66 years Also of Henry SMITH Who died January 28th 1862 aged 68 years.

In memory of Annie Louisa WHITEHEAD Who died 1st January 1934 aged 70th year.

In loving memory of a dear wife Lillian W COLE Who passed away 7th Feb 1940 aged 56 years Also of Reginald James COLE Who died 24th April 1952 aged 66 years