May I ask how you found out she was a relative if you don't have anythinmg on Ann Wells, I ask as you may have a few dates which you forgot to list? I have no idea if yours but, On the Minster 1841 Census there is Ann Wells aged 65, Gardener. Her son John is living with her, aged 30 No occupation listed. Also a William Wootton aged 13. Next door is an Ann Wells aged 25, living or working for a William Tappenden aged 32. Maybe this Ann is a daughter. Class: HO107; Civil Parish: Minster; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 2; Page: 2 A John Wells Married Q Sep 1843 in Thanet. Possible death (only one from Sep 1837-1851) No Ann on 1851 Census. Deaths Dec 1847 Wells Ann Thanet I 5389 Good luck Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: Michael Hobbs To: ISLE-OF-THANET@rootsweb.com Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:21 PM Subject: [SPAM] [ISLE-OF-THANET] The Widow Ann Wells Several years ago I obtained a copy of a tourist pamphlet "Discovering Old Minster" printed by the Thanet District Council. On the acknowledgements portion of the pamphlet was a cartoon picture of a lady in a hot-air-balloon. Apparently that woman is the widow Anne Wells who staged hot-air-balloon ascents from her Tea Gardens during the 1820's (formerly the White Horse Inn on Church Street?). This woman was one of my ancestors and I have had a lot of difficulty finding out anything about her. Can anyone help with any information about her, her family, parents,siblings etc? Regards Mike Hobbs Wellington New Zealand ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Several years ago I obtained a copy of a tourist pamphlet "Discovering Old Minster" printed by the Thanet District Council. On the acknowledgements portion of the pamphlet was a cartoon picture of a lady in a hot-air-balloon. Apparently that woman is the widow Anne Wells who staged hot-air-balloon ascents from her Tea Gardens during the 1820's (formerly the White Horse Inn on Church Street?). This woman was one of my ancestors and I have had a lot of difficulty finding out anything about her. Can anyone help with any information about her, her family, parents,siblings etc? Regards Mike Hobbs Wellington New Zealand

Hi Mike This site may be able to help. Found by googling, always worth a try. :-)) http://www.britishballoonmuseum.org.uk/ Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael Hobbs" <mikehobbs@ezysurf.co.nz> To: <ISLE-OF-THANET@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 10:21 PM Subject: [ISLE-OF-THANET] The Widow Ann Wells > Several years ago I obtained a copy of a tourist pamphlet "Discovering Old Minster" printed by the Thanet District Council. On the acknowledgements portion of the pamphlet was a cartoon picture of a lady in a hot-air-balloon. Apparently that woman is the widow Anne Wells who staged hot-air-balloon ascents from her Tea Gardens during the 1820's (formerly the White Horse Inn on Church Street?). This woman was one of my ancestors and I have had a lot of difficulty finding out anything about her. > > Can anyone help with any information about her, her family, parents,siblings etc? > > Regards > > Mike Hobbs > Wellington > New Zealand > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

Hi My mother is Jean and she still lives in Minster and was born in Wales, my dad was Alan who was actually born in Ramsgate in 1932 and died in the 80s but did live in Wales and returned to Minster in about 1963 I have with my sister Lorna been trying to trace my dads ancestors and have only got as far as his father How do you know them Sean -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Sylvia from Kent Sent: 29 September 2006 00:30 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Minster Coastguard Station Hello Sean My inquisitiveness is getting the better of me... As you seem to know a bit about Minster in Thanet, by chance are you the son of Jean and Alan who were both born in Wales and moved to the village in the 1960's? Best wishes Sylvia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the http://www.orbital.net MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

I'll think youll find that the Coastguards Cottages were down on the Sandwich Road, on the sea side just north of the Ebbsfleet turning, roughly where the nature reserve is today. The cottages, two of them if I remember, were still there in the late 1960's, when I used to travel the Sandwich Road. This area comes under Minster Disrict. Tony Euden (Broadstairs) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sean Doherty" <se@ndoherty.co.uk> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com>; "'Suzannah Foad'" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> Sent: Friday, September 29, 2006 12:00 AM Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Minster Coastguard Station > Not certain when the Minster marshes were not there but where Minster > Railways station is was the port or quay as when it was being built they > found all sorts of things there. So the sea came as far as that. Minster > church I believe used to have a beacon in its tower to warn ships. The > Minster museum might be able to help. The whole are from Pegwell to Minster > has been and as far as I know still is silting up due to the erosion on the > North coats from Margate to Birchington. That is being washed around and > deposited in what is now Pegwell Bay. > > > Sean > > -----Original Message----- > From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Louise Harris > Sent: 28 September 2006 21:40 > To: Suzannah Foad; isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Minster Coastguard Station > > Well I never! I imagined that the river had silted up centuries ago. I > had no idea that minster was still pretty much on the coast/river during > the 19th century. When did it silt up to present day levels? > > Although now I look closely at a map I appreciate how close to the coast > it is. I had my scale all wrong! > Louise > > Suzannah Foad wrote: > > >Minster in Thanet Coastguard Station (St Augustines or North Shore) > >1851 HO107/1629/117-118 > >1861 RG9/533/30 > >1871 RG10/09990/33-34 > >1881 RG11/0983/34-35 > >1891 RG12/0725/34 > >RG13/0819/35 > > > >----- Original Message ----- > >From: LYNNEASHBY2@aol.com > >To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > >Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:14 PM > >Subject: [SPAM] Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Charles ashton - boatman > > > > > >Can I add my ten pence worth? > >Just a small correction to add to this- Minster was once one of the busiest > >ports in East Kent- I am not sure whether there was a coastguard station > >there, but don't rule it out!! > >Lynne > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > >ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > >------------------------------- > >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > This message has been scanned for viruses and > dangerous content by the http://www.orbital.net > MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. > -------------------------------------------------------------------------- --- > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Good Evening listers, I am writing an article on the Britannia Public House on Fort Hill in Margate. Known prior to 1901 as the Britannia Hotel. I have traced all the owners/managers from 1841-1891 from just the Census entries. I am looking to find some information on these landlords, namely Alfred Henry Grant c.1833-1904 and Robert Dunk Peal c.1805-1871. 1851 is Robert D Peal with Wife Jane. Again in 1861 but by 1871 he was widowed and living with his daughter Jane and son in law William Miles at another Public House the Belle Vue in Cliftonville until his death in Q Sept 1871. 1871 Census Alfred H Grant aged 38 is with his wife Sarah also aged 38 at the Britannia and also the 1881 and 1891 Census I am going to check the 1901 next. Does anyone have these people in their trees? Have any old memories of the Public House, its right next door to Margate Police Station which was built 1969, before that it was Cobb's Brewery. Legend, and I say legend as have not found anything to supports this, but the Britannia was supposedly Cobb's Hunting lodge before it was a public house. I have a good picture of the Pub with the Minstrels outside c.1870, but no others. Would be very grateful if anyone can assist. Many Thanks Suzannah

Well, good luck with it all, I hope you find what you are looking for. By the way, William Redwood Wright a Tailor aged 58 born Margate was at 5 Charlotte Place on the 1851 census Wife Elizabeth aged 57 Born Canterbury. Did you know that the Colet Arms where Thomas was in 1861, only closed in 2003? It was at 94 Whitehorse Street , Limehouse E1. Will send picture off list. Again, good luck Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam (Ntl) To: Suzannah Foad Cc: isle-of-thanetl@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 11:22 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: George Redwood Wright and family Suzannah, that is BRILLIANT! I had been trying to work out who George had married (other than a Susan or Susannah, of course LOL!). I will have a hunt for Emma in 1871 to see if I can find her. Charles Thomas makes sense - named for Susan's father and George's grandfather AND his brother - I have found Thomas Redwood Wright b 1818, Margate, living in Limehouse and running the Colet Arms as a licensed victualler (1861). In 1871, he is a Licensed Victualler (out of business) living in Stratford-Le-Bow and in 1881, a widower with a live-in housekeeper. He died in 1882. In 1851, Thomas worked for a widow, Emma Gurney, who was a wine and spirit merchant. I will contact the archives to see what they say - I am long overdue a visit to Kent! I would very much like to see a picture of the workhouse too. Once again, thanks for the help Kind regards Pam

Hello Sean My inquisitiveness is getting the better of me... As you seem to know a bit about Minster in Thanet, by chance are you the son of Jean and Alan who were both born in Wales and moved to the village in the 1960's? Best wishes Sylvia

Not certain when the Minster marshes were not there but where Minster Railways station is was the port or quay as when it was being built they found all sorts of things there. So the sea came as far as that. Minster church I believe used to have a beacon in its tower to warn ships. The Minster museum might be able to help. The whole are from Pegwell to Minster has been and as far as I know still is silting up due to the erosion on the North coats from Margate to Birchington. That is being washed around and deposited in what is now Pegwell Bay. Sean -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Louise Harris Sent: 28 September 2006 21:40 To: Suzannah Foad; isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Minster Coastguard Station Well I never! I imagined that the river had silted up centuries ago. I had no idea that minster was still pretty much on the coast/river during the 19th century. When did it silt up to present day levels? Although now I look closely at a map I appreciate how close to the coast it is. I had my scale all wrong! Louise Suzannah Foad wrote: >Minster in Thanet Coastguard Station (St Augustines or North Shore) >1851 HO107/1629/117-118 >1861 RG9/533/30 >1871 RG10/09990/33-34 >1881 RG11/0983/34-35 >1891 RG12/0725/34 >RG13/0819/35 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: LYNNEASHBY2@aol.com >To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:14 PM >Subject: [SPAM] Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Charles ashton - boatman > > >Can I add my ten pence worth? >Just a small correction to add to this- Minster was once one of the busiest >ports in East Kent- I am not sure whether there was a coastguard station >there, but don't rule it out!! >Lynne > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the http://www.orbital.net MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Well I never! I imagined that the river had silted up centuries ago. I had no idea that minster was still pretty much on the coast/river during the 19th century. When did it silt up to present day levels? Although now I look closely at a map I appreciate how close to the coast it is. I had my scale all wrong! Louise Suzannah Foad wrote: >Minster in Thanet Coastguard Station (St Augustines or North Shore) >1851 HO107/1629/117-118 >1861 RG9/533/30 >1871 RG10/09990/33-34 >1881 RG11/0983/34-35 >1891 RG12/0725/34 >RG13/0819/35 > >----- Original Message ----- >From: LYNNEASHBY2@aol.com >To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com >Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:14 PM >Subject: [SPAM] Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Charles ashton - boatman > > >Can I add my ten pence worth? >Just a small correction to add to this- Minster was once one of the busiest >ports in East Kent- I am not sure whether there was a coastguard station >there, but don't rule it out!! >Lynne > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Very many thanks for your Solly/Solley connections - much appreciated. Sue Solley ----- Original Message ----- From: <Misterchris4686@aol.com> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, September 11, 2006 7:10 PM Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] SAYER - Thanet >I have 4 Sollys in my tree for what it is worth. Not at all exciting I >think > but it may tie ends up for somebody. > > I have John Solly born about 1824 who married Mary Kate Barwick born about > 1821 in Minster and died 1855 en route to America. > > I have a Hannah Solly who appears to be the illegitimate daughter of Mercy > Solly born April 1791 in Ash and died in Elmstone 19th December 1841. > Mercy was > the daughter of Robert Solly and Susannah Pearce. > > Chris > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Pam, We cannot say for sure how Samuel Bushell met Emma but we can SUPPOSE that he had come into Ramsgate harbour on a Ship, being a Master Mariner and all. Did you find Emma on the 1871 Census as wasn't at home with her widowed mother then so I thought maybe she had gone to Hampshire or Hastings where she gave birth or at least registered her daughter Harriett's birth? The 1851 Census you mention, the wife is Susan Wright 28 Born Chatham George Wright 30 Born Ramsgate Corporal Marine Charles Wright 1 born Gillingham Births Mar 1850 Wright Charles Thomas Medway 5413 Deaths Dec 1851 Wright Charles Thomas Medway 5267 I did find George's Christening in Littlebourne 29 AUG 1820 to John Redwood Wright and Jane Terry Marriages Mar 1849 Wright George Medway 5387 Marriages Mar 1849 Bennett Susanna Medway 5387 Susan Bennett aged 15 is a Servant to Coal Merchant Benjamin Rous of Nelson Alley Broad Street Gillingham on the 1841 Census Class: HO107; Civil Parish: Gillingham; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 12; Page: 13 - Hundred: Lathe of Aylesford Chatham and Gillingham Possible baptism for Susan and thats 12th October 1823 Chatham Kent to Charles and Mary Bennett, also baptised on the same day to same parents is Elizabeth Bennett. You can contact Whitfield Archives near Dover to see if they have George's admission papers to the Minster Union Workhouse but I have a feeling they will suggest you take a trip down there to view them, or it will be a huge fee for them to search for you. Would you like to see a picture of the workhouse? Good luck with it all Regards Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam (Ntl) To: Suzannah Foad ; isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 12:04 AM Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] George Redwood Wright and family Dear Suzannah Thanks for all this information! I think I have found George in the 1851 Census, at the Royal Marines Barracks in Chatham, along with his wife and baby son Charles (who I assume died in infancy, as I can find no trace of him later on). There was also a niece - Emma Thompson aged 3, born in Gillingham. The image is pretty grubby though! I have found John Redwood Wright and his wife Jane (Terry), who were, I believe, George's parents. John was born in Littlebourne. I think his parents were Thomas Redwood Wright (b 1760) and Sarah Sandwell and I believe (although I would need to prove this line) that Thomas Redwood Wright's parents were Thomas Wright (b 1735) and Thomazine Skinner. Thomazine's parents were Noble Skinner and Margaret Redwood and I think that this is when the Redwood name came into the Wright family and was used down the years. All of these families were from Thanet. I think that George may have had a drink (and possibly gambling) problem as my mother remembers her grandmother Maria (George's daughter) being very anti-drink and gambling - if that landed them in the workhouse, then I could possibly understand her antipathy. However, I guess that George may just have been discharged from the Royal Marines with no pension to fall back on - does anyone know if there is some way that I could find out how long they were in the workhouse for? Maria married Frederick Tom Porter and I have his navy service record, showing all the ships that he served in - he entered as a boy sailor and had a long career in the Navy. Before he (finally) retired, he was in the Coastguard Service and I have his Good Conduct Medal - seems I have become the custodian of the family history! I am intrigued by Emma, though. I wonder where she met Samuel? He was a Rotherhithe boy and when I've looked him up in the various census returns, he was living with his widowed sister (Harriet Pentreath) the last record was in 1871 when her was living with her in Stratford Le Bow - he married Emma after his sister's death. Thanks for the help, kind regards, Pam.

Hi can anyone put me in touch with Christina Mcateer of Broadstairs.We had a shared ancestor Henry Edmund Joseph Hougham. We had been in correspondence when my hard drive crashed and all the emails etc was lost.My father also had a heart attack so genealogy wasnt our priority.Anyway hes fine now and we're back on the trail.I did google up an old email address for her but the emails bounced back. Can anyone help Thanks Julie

It would seem the Minster one was closer to Ebbsfleet than Minster itself. I can find a 1877 Map of the Station if you uncover its the right Minster. Regards Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: Suzannah Foad To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 4:28 PM Subject: [SPAM] [ISLE-OF-THANET] Minster Coastguard Station Minster in Thanet Coastguard Station (St Augustines or North Shore) 1851 HO107/1629/117-118 1861 RG9/533/30 1871 RG10/09990/33-34 1881 RG11/0983/34-35 1891 RG12/0725/34 RG13/0819/35 ----- Original Message ----- From: LYNNEASHBY2@aol.com To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Charles ashton - boatman Can I add my ten pence worth? Just a small correction to add to this- Minster was once one of the busiest ports in East Kent- I am not sure whether there was a coastguard station there, but don't rule it out!! Lynne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Minster in Thanet Coastguard Station (St Augustines or North Shore) 1851 HO107/1629/117-118 1861 RG9/533/30 1871 RG10/09990/33-34 1881 RG11/0983/34-35 1891 RG12/0725/34 RG13/0819/35 ----- Original Message ----- From: LYNNEASHBY2@aol.com To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, September 27, 2006 2:14 PM Subject: [SPAM] Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Charles ashton - boatman Can I add my ten pence worth? Just a small correction to add to this- Minster was once one of the busiest ports in East Kent- I am not sure whether there was a coastguard station there, but don't rule it out!! Lynne ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Louise, The Liverpool Charles is a possibility. Thanks for that and the other info' which is certainly helpful. Regards, Veronica. Louise Harris <henny.harris@virgin.net> wrote: Dear Veronica, Boatmen can refer to members of the Navy, fishermen, members of the coastguard, and also people who worked on the canals. It's a bit broad unfortunately. I have coastguards in my family history so I've looked up a few relevant sites before. Boatmen were members of the coastguard service, which was part of customs and excise. There is a lot of info on Coastguards, but Charles Ashton is not listed. www.genuki.org.uk/big/Coastguards/. Just to note, the coastguards on Thanet would not have been based at Minster, which is not on the Coast. But, when looking at records the wives do not always live in the stations, so Emma's mother may have been at Minster for the birth. Details of Archives for Customs and Excise can be found at: http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/catalogue/displaycataloguedetails.asp?CATID=299&CATLN=2&accessmethod=5 microfiche though, not online. In the 1881 census there is a Charles Ashton living in Derbyshire who was born Liverpool 1807 and gives his occupation as retired Customs and Excise Clerk- I wonder if this is your Charles Ashton? Hope this helps a little Louise veronica howorth wrote: >Dear Suzannah > > Thanks for your reply and census information. That's certainly the right people on the 1891 census but unfortunately I don't think its the same Edwin Bolton on the 1881 and 1871. I should have mentioned that i traced Edwin on the 1841 census which showed him living at Pall Mall, St. James Square, Westminster. He was aged 10 and living with his father Peter Bolton who was a Tailor and mother Jane, along with his brothers and sister. I also found Christening records for him and his siblings on the Family Search IGI which shows he was christened at St. James, Westminster. I also found him on the 1851 at which time he was a Clerk staying at the home of a sister in law [ I presume] in Chelsea. Again, his birthplace is given as St. James, West [Westminster] On his Marriage certificate in 1875 his occupation is Comedian and Emma's is Artiste. On my Grandmother Florence's Birth Certificate it gives Edwin's occupation as Artist which I assumed to mean Artist in the theatrical > sense rather than painterly, although i suppose that could tie in with the ornamental painter, but the Bermondsey birthplace and unmarried status in1881 doesn't fit. > It is Emma though who is proving to be a woman of mystery as far as her earlier life is concerned. I know that she died in 1929 I have just discovered her burial place in Shipley, West Yorkshire which is where Florence and husband Sam Allen had gone to take over management of a local theatre. Emma had looked after the children [my father and his siblings] sadly they can't be questioned as they are all dead now. I seem to recall one of my aunts who always spoke of Emma with great affection,saying that she [Emma] had been disowned by her family for marrying beneath her. It is also believed that her occupation had been a Lady's Maid before taking to the stage. Apart from that i have no clues. I have started going through the 1841 Census for Minster in Sheppey on the Ancestry website. I can't find Minster in Thanet though, does it come under another district? Of course she may well have born after the Census took place. >I'm also wondering if there are any organizations or Websites that might have records of Boatmen in Kent? > Sorry for being so long-winded, and thanks once again for your interest and help. > > Veronica. > >Suzannah Foad wrote: > Dear Veronica > >You didn't mention a date they married nor the Grooms name, so I assumed >this to be correct > >Cannot find anything about Emma nor her connection to Thanet. Possibly being >an actress she did change her name. It looks as though Edwin Bolton was a >Stage Painter?Actor. >If you wish to reply to me regarding Edwin and Emma I am quite happy to help >of list, as we cannot determine the Thanet connection >Regards >Suzannah > >Marriages Sep 1875 >Bolton Edwin Pontefract 9c147 >Marriages Sep 1875 >ASHTON Emma Pontefract 9c147 > >On the 1901 Census, Edwin, Emma and Florence are Actresses and an Actor. >I looked at the 1891 Census and thier birth places are not recorded. >Class: RG12; Piece: 1372; Folio 14; Page 22; > >1891 England >about Emma Bolton (Indexed under Hassan on the 1891 Census) >Name:Emma Hassan >Age: 46 >Estimated Birth Year:abt 1845 >Relation:Wife to Lodger >Gender: Female >Where Born: N > >Civil parish:Barking >Ecclesiastical parish:St Margaret >Town:Barking >County/Island:Essex >Country:England >Registration district:Romford >Sub registration district:Barking Town >ED, institution, or vessel:8 > >Household Members: Name Age >Caroline Hassan 53 Widow 119 Worth Street, Barking Essex >Elizabeth Hassan 17 >James Hassan 19 >Edwin Bolton Lodger 60 Actor >Emma Bolton 46 Actress >Florence Bolton 13 > > >Daughter Florence >Births Jun 1877 >Bolton Florence Pontefract 9c 127 > >Hard time finding Emma on the 1881 census but think this may be Edwin > >Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability >1881 >Clarissa BOLTON Head U Female 59 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England >Letting Furnd Appartments >Ann BOLTON Sis U Female 57 Bethnal Green, Middlesex, England Letting >Furnd Appartments >Charles BOLTON Bro U Male 54 Deptford, Kent, England Shoemaker >Edwin H. BOLTON Bro U Male 52 Bermondsey, Surrey, England Ornamental >Painter >Michael LESLIE Lodg U Male 29 Ireland Civil Serv Writer War Office >Laurence LESLIE Lodg U Male 24 Ireland Civil Serv Writer War Office >Cornelius LESLIE Lodg U Male 16 Ireland Scholar >Henry STEPHENS Lodg U Male 37 Devonport, Devon, England Bankers Clk >Thomas G. RICHBELL Lodg U Male 48 London, London, Middlesex, England >Agent Nk > >Source Information: >Dwelling 14 Osbourne Terr >Census PlaceLambeth, Surrey, England >Family History Library Film 1341138 >Public Records Office Reference RG11 >Piece / Folio 0602 / 52 >Page Number 38 > > >1871 Census, Edwin is staying with his brother in Lambeth >RG10; Piece: 671; Folio: 31; Page: 18 > >Name:Edwin Bolton >Age:41 >Estimated Birth Year:abt 1830 >Relation:Brother >Gender:Male >Where born:Bermondsey, Surrey, England > >Civil Parish:Lambeth >Ecclesiastical parish:St Mark >County/Island:London >Country:England >Registration district:Lambeth >Sub-registration district:Kennington First >ED, institution, or vessel:16 > >Household Members: Name Age 14 Osbourne Terrace, Kennington > >Charissa Bolton 49 Head Unmarried Fund Holder Born Bethnal Green >Ann Bolton 47 Sister Unmarried Born Bethnal Green >Charles Bolton 44 Brother Unmarried Bootmaker Born Deptford Kent >Edwin Bolton 41 Unmarried Ornamental Painter Born Bermondsey Surrey >Jenny Bayly 22 Boarder, Unmarried Outfitter. > > > > > > >----- Original Message ----- >From: veronica howorth >To: Isle-of-Thanet-L@rootsweb.com >Sent: Tuesday, September 19, 2006 11:11 PM >Subject: [ISLE-OF-THANET] charles ashton - boatman > > >Hello, I wonder if anyone can help me. my grandparents and great >grandparents were actors who travelled about the country. I tracked them >down on the 1901 census at Hebden Bridge in Yorkshire and discovered from >that my great grandmother, Emma Bolton was born in Minster, Kent around 1841 >[ i don't know which Minster though ] >I traced their place of marriage to Pontefract in Yorkshire and >subsequently found from the marriage certificate that her maiden name was >Ashton - father's name Charles Ashton, his occupation was a boatman. I don;t >know whether their stay in Kent was temporary or if they actually lived >there. i cannot find them on the censuses or Emma's birth in the BMD >records. The possibility has occurred to me she may have changed her name >for some reason in which case finding her will be very difficult, however >i'm pinning my hopes on someone knowing of a boatman named Charles who might >fit the bill. 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Can I add my ten pence worth? Just a small correction to add to this- Minster was once one of the busiest ports in East Kent- I am not sure whether there was a coastguard station there, but don't rule it out!! Lynne

Dear Suzannah Thanks for all this information! I think I have found George in the 1851 Census, at the Royal Marines Barracks in Chatham, along with his wife and baby son Charles (who I assume died in infancy, as I can find no trace of him later on). There was also a niece - Emma Thompson aged 3, born in Gillingham. The image is pretty grubby though! I have found John Redwood Wright and his wife Jane (Terry), who were, I believe, George's parents. John was born in Littlebourne. I think his parents were Thomas Redwood Wright (b 1760) and Sarah Sandwell and I believe (although I would need to prove this line) that Thomas Redwood Wright's parents were Thomas Wright (b 1735) and Thomazine Skinner. Thomazine's parents were Noble Skinner and Margaret Redwood and I think that this is when the Redwood name came into the Wright family and was used down the years. All of these families were from Thanet. I think that George may have had a drink (and possibly gambling) problem as my mother remembers her grandmother Maria (George's daughter) being very anti-drink and gambling - if that landed them in the workhouse, then I could possibly understand her antipathy. However, I guess that George may just have been discharged from the Royal Marines with no pension to fall back on - does anyone know if there is some way that I could find out how long they were in the workhouse for? Maria married Frederick Tom Porter and I have his navy service record, showing all the ships that he served in - he entered as a boy sailor and had a long career in the Navy. Before he (finally) retired, he was in the Coastguard Service and I have his Good Conduct Medal - seems I have become the custodian of the family history! I am intrigued by Emma, though. I wonder where she met Samuel? He was a Rotherhithe boy and when I've looked him up in the various census returns, he was living with his widowed sister (Harriet Pentreath) the last record was in 1871 when her was living with her in Stratford Le Bow - he married Emma after his sister's death. Thanks for the help, kind regards, Pam.

I see George in the Wokhouse in 1861 born Littlebourne. With him is his wife Susanna (What a nice name ;0) born Chatham as is his Children Maria aged 18, Emma aged 13, and Elizabeth aged 12. Deaths Jun 1869 Wright George aged 48 Thanet Vol 2a Page 455 Susannah didn't die till Deaths Jun 1889 Wright Susan 69 Thanet 2a 476 So I Traced her on the Census's 1871 Susannah aged 52 is recorded as Susan with no occupation at 26 Monkton Cottages, Ramsgate, with children Agnes M aged 4, Maria Aged 18 Infant Teacher and Mary J aged 9 Home Scholar. Class: RG10; Piece: 994; Folio: 39; Page: 26 1881 Susanah (sic) aged 61 is a widowed Laundress of Finsbury Terrace, Ramsgate with daughter Agnes (Agnes Martha born 1867) aged 14 Servant, born Ramsgate Maria aged 27 Unmarried Lanudress born Chatham. Class: RG11; Piece: 990; Folio: 8; Page: 10 I was wondering why Emma left her widowed mother and ran to Hampshire to get maried. You say Harroett was born before they married. I think it was because Samuek was 20 years or so older than Emma !! Emma Redwood Married 1877 Marriages Sep 1877 WRIGHT Emma Redwood Portsea 2b 813 Marriages Sep 1877 Bushell Samuel Portsea 2b813 1881 Census Name RelationMarital StatusGenderAgeBirthplaceOccupationDisability Samuel BUSHELL Head M Male 60 Rotherhithe Retired Master Mariner Emma R. BUSHELL Wife M Female 30 Maidstone Harriett E. BUSHELL Daur U Female 4 Hastings Alice PARKER Serv U Female 16 Ba...ay, Somerset, England Gen Dom Serv Source Information: Dwelling 9 St Peters Grove Census PlacePortsea, Hampshire, England Family History Library Film 1341284 Public Records Office Reference RG11 Piece / Folio 1159 / 54 Page Number 41 Most likely not 100% birth for daughter Births Mar 1877 Bushell Harriet Emma Hastings 2b39 1891 Census RG12; Piece: 872; Folio 97; Page 6; Emma R Bushell aged 40 born Maidstone was living with Samuel aged 63 - Retired Ships Master, Harriett E Scholar Daughter aged 14 and a servant Minnie Roberts aged 19 at 14 St Peter's Grove Portsea Hamshire. 1901 Census Class: RG13; Piece: 1006; Folio: 26; Page: 5 Emma aged 46, Samuel aged 70 Retired Master Mariner and Daughter Harriett a Teacher of Music aged 23 unmarried. 14 St Peter's Grove Portsmouth Hampshire Samuel died Deaths Dec 1903 Bushell samuel 85 Portsmouth 2b 326 Going back to George Redwood Wright. He was born Chatham and traceable on the 1841 Census but not with parents, you may have to check Parish registers for the Chatham area. Do you know when George married Susannah and where. Good luck Suzannah ----- Original Message ----- From: Pam (Ntl) To: isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com Sent: Monday, September 25, 2006 12:01 AM Subject: [SPAM] [ISLE-OF-THANET] George Redwood Wright/Isle of Thanet workhouse Hi, would anyone have any information on George Redwood Wright or his family? In 1861 they were in the Isle of Thanet Union Workhouse - he is described as a discharged Marine and I believe that he died before the 1871 Census. His daughter Maria married Frederick Tom Porter and they lived in St Margaret's Bay until at least 1901. They then moved to Shirley, Southampton. I have traced back to where the Redwood name enters the family but would be grateful for any information on the Wrights or the Porters, also anything on Emma Redwood Wright (another of George's daughters) who married Samuel Bushell (a retired ship's master and considerably older than Emma). They had a daughter Harriet, born a few months before they married (the family legend has it that they eloped). Hope someone can help - both Minster and Monkton feature in family "legend" but sadly there is no-one left who can remember any details. Kind regards Pam Newton ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message