Yes amongst the stars who appeared at the Theatre for Summer seasons was Benny Hill who was there as a support to Reg Varney, I believe this was late 50s early 60s. There used to be signed photos in the Theatre from those that appeared I wonder what happened to them Sean -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LAWRENCE BRIDGER Sent: 26 October 2006 22:56 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com; Isle of Thanet Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] The Lido, Margate Hi Mike, It appears that you have certainly stirred some memories of the Lido amongst the listers. My father was the sub postmaster of the Lido Post Office between 1961 and 1971 on the corner of Ethelbert Road and Ethelbert Terrace right opposite the tower. I lived in the top flat so you could see right down into the sun terrace where Tony Savage used to play the organ for all the pensioners and they used to have a singsong every day. At the side of the terrace was the Jamaica Inn. Sheriff Danny Arnold used to come in the Post Office regularly and every Sunday lunch time he would be climbing all over the Lido roof with his cowboys having a pretend gun fight to advertise his Golden Garter Saloon to the new arrivals, nearly everyone at that time arrived on Saturdays. If the weather was warm the roof of the theatre would slide open. Loads of stars used to appear at the theatre, the one we used to see most of was Bill Maynard, (Greengrass) who used to drive around in an open Landrover, and every week he would be in to post a registered letter. I think Charlie Drake was there one season. Early one evening I was standing outside the Post Office before the visitors were going to the shows when the tower, which is a chimney, suddenly belched out vast clouds of black smoke. It was obvious something had caught fire so I phoned for the fire brigade. The fish and chip shop on the slope down to the sun terrace was ablaze and we ended up with six or seven fire engines deployed with hoses everywhere. I think that must have occurred in the late sixties. I see you have already had a reply from Sean, it's a small world, when we left the Lido Post Office, I worked at the DHSS and Sean was one of my bosses for a few years. With regard to our Langston connections I haven't done any research on them recently, I've been more involved with my research into Garlinge and Dent de Lion which is coming along quite well. I see you were making enquiries regarding the isolation hospital a few weeks ago. I think you will find that the records are at the archive centre at Whitfield. If my memory is not playing tricks I believe they are not available for research, they are closed for something like 75 or 100 years. When I was at the centre regularly about three years ago I think I saw the closure notice on their index file. Laurie Bridger. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the http://www.orbital.net MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Around about the summer of 1971 the Fish and Chip shop was run by a Mr Adlington in the evenings he was then a driving examiner by day He was one of my friends dad. I remember the Lido PO around that time as I was frequently at the Lido Sean Doherty -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of LAWRENCE BRIDGER Sent: 26 October 2006 22:56 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com; Isle of Thanet Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] The Lido, Margate Hi Mike, It appears that you have certainly stirred some memories of the Lido amongst the listers. My father was the sub postmaster of the Lido Post Office between 1961 and 1971 on the corner of Ethelbert Road and Ethelbert Terrace right opposite the tower. I lived in the top flat so you could see right down into the sun terrace where Tony Savage used to play the organ for all the pensioners and they used to have a singsong every day. At the side of the terrace was the Jamaica Inn. Sheriff Danny Arnold used to come in the Post Office regularly and every Sunday lunch time he would be climbing all over the Lido roof with his cowboys having a pretend gun fight to advertise his Golden Garter Saloon to the new arrivals, nearly everyone at that time arrived on Saturdays. If the weather was warm the roof of the theatre would slide open. Loads of stars used to appear at the theatre, the one we used to see most of was Bill Maynard, (Greengrass) who used to drive around in an open Landrover, and every week he would be in to post a registered letter. I think Charlie Drake was there one season. Early one evening I was standing outside the Post Office before the visitors were going to the shows when the tower, which is a chimney, suddenly belched out vast clouds of black smoke. It was obvious something had caught fire so I phoned for the fire brigade. The fish and chip shop on the slope down to the sun terrace was ablaze and we ended up with six or seven fire engines deployed with hoses everywhere. I think that must have occurred in the late sixties. I see you have already had a reply from Sean, it's a small world, when we left the Lido Post Office, I worked at the DHSS and Sean was one of my bosses for a few years. With regard to our Langston connections I haven't done any research on them recently, I've been more involved with my research into Garlinge and Dent de Lion which is coming along quite well. I see you were making enquiries regarding the isolation hospital a few weeks ago. I think you will find that the records are at the archive centre at Whitfield. If my memory is not playing tricks I believe they are not available for research, they are closed for something like 75 or 100 years. When I was at the centre regularly about three years ago I think I saw the closure notice on their index file. Laurie Bridger. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the http://www.orbital.net MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hi Mike, It appears that you have certainly stirred some memories of the Lido amongst the listers. My father was the sub postmaster of the Lido Post Office between 1961 and 1971 on the corner of Ethelbert Road and Ethelbert Terrace right opposite the tower. I lived in the top flat so you could see right down into the sun terrace where Tony Savage used to play the organ for all the pensioners and they used to have a singsong every day. At the side of the terrace was the Jamaica Inn. Sheriff Danny Arnold used to come in the Post Office regularly and every Sunday lunch time he would be climbing all over the Lido roof with his cowboys having a pretend gun fight to advertise his Golden Garter Saloon to the new arrivals, nearly everyone at that time arrived on Saturdays. If the weather was warm the roof of the theatre would slide open. Loads of stars used to appear at the theatre, the one we used to see most of was Bill Maynard, (Greengrass) who used to drive around in an open Landrover, and every week he would be in to post a registered letter. I think Charlie Drake was there one season. Early one evening I was standing outside the Post Office before the visitors were going to the shows when the tower, which is a chimney, suddenly belched out vast clouds of black smoke. It was obvious something had caught fire so I phoned for the fire brigade. The fish and chip shop on the slope down to the sun terrace was ablaze and we ended up with six or seven fire engines deployed with hoses everywhere. I think that must have occurred in the late sixties. I see you have already had a reply from Sean, it’s a small world, when we left the Lido Post Office, I worked at the DHSS and Sean was one of my bosses for a few years. With regard to our Langston connections I haven’t done any research on them recently, I’ve been more involved with my research into Garlinge and Dent de Lion which is coming along quite well. I see you were making enquiries regarding the isolation hospital a few weeks ago. I think you will find that the records are at the archive centre at Whitfield. If my memory is not playing tricks I believe they are not available for research, they are closed for something like 75 or 100 years. When I was at the centre regularly about three years ago I think I saw the closure notice on their index file. Laurie Bridger.

Hi List re:posting interests in kent , I am trying to link up with Desendants of HODGE , last known area was broadstairs where they lived and where my father married my mother Majorie CARTER from birmingham, what follows is a basic rundown on them, my father was George Frederick HODGE. Kathleen HODGE Edward Brenda Arthur George (1922) Parents were Charles henry HODGE ( 1891) & Kathleen Matilda HATCHETT Siblings of charles were william henry HODGE (1887) yalding Nellie (1890) yalding They were children of William Henry HODGE (1862 ) cranbrook and Emily ACOTT (1866) yalding. this should do for now ,as I really like to progress forward now, thanking you for any help received. gary frederick hodge

Hi Yes I can give you some info re the Lido My father Al Doherty used to appear there in the Golden Garter along with Sheriff Danny Arnold who sadly passed away a few years ago. My father died 25 years ago this week. He did several summer seasons with Danny and some without. Other Artists that appeared in the Golden Garter were George Brown and I am still in touch with his daughter and son and in fact we play in a band Alabama Express to continue the tradition. Others who appeared in the Golden Garter are Ronnie Winters did a season there also Jean Reeves, (seen in many TV ads afterwards) Jimmy Grant Jan Holly now living in Texas she has a website with pictures of the Golden Garter http://mysite.wanadoo-members.co.uk/guynew/sheet/jan.htm Les Bagulay (Piano) his son edits the Country music magazine Country Music People Also the Lido Theatre were dad put on many Country shows and I also appeared with him in a summer season with Tommy Trinder I rember Les Shannon appearing there also Tony Savage used to be the organist on the Sun Terrace and also in the Jamaica inn. Dad also used to run a Country Music club on Fridays in the winter in the Jamaica inn There was also Hades night club in the Lido complex along with the French bar next to the Golden Garter and also the Old Tyme Music hall on the upper floor. There was also a snooker hall where I first experienced a full size snooker table. And not forgetting the Lido swimming pool and the Miss Lido competitions they used to have there. I could go on would love to see any photos people have of the Golden Garter I have some which I will have to scan Sean Doherty -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mike Langston Sent: 26 October 2006 19:11 To: Isle of Thanet Subject: [ISLE-OF-THANET] The Lido, Margate Hi all My parents and grandfather were involved with the Lido during the 1960's. Both my mum and dad worked in I think the western bar, might have been star and garter, it was a pretend cowboy theme. Also my grandfather died when he fell from scaffolding while working in the games room in Dec 1962. I would like any information, maybe there as been a book on the history of the Lido written, or if anyone knows about the Lido during the 1960's I would appreciate it. Thanks - Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ----------------------------------------------------------------------------- This message has been scanned for viruses and dangerous content by the http://www.orbital.net MailScanner, and is believed to be clean. -----------------------------------------------------------------------------

Hello Elaine, Will check at Margate Library next week, should (fingers crossed) be a better then! Happy Hunting Suzannah Er3pr@aol.com wrote: Hi Thanet researchers, Doing research on HARRISON side of the family from Margate and trying to find parents of John Slater HARRISON born in Margate abt 1804. Does anyone have access to Parish records possibly at St. John's for that time period? I have found him on the 1841, 1851, 1861 & 1871 census, living in Oxford. All show born in Margate, Kent. Checked the LDS site and it just gives where he was living in Oxford and that he married Louisa Scott. Any help always appreciated. ~Elaine ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I can certainly help with the Lido information. My Grandfather was a Muscian there, also in a Band called Les Shannon and his Music Makers, he worked there from the early 1950's till 1970 when he died at Haine Hospital. If you send me your address off list I will post you a wad or two! I have interior pictures, exterior, stars, posters, adverts and booklets. I also have a picture of the Regular Deputy Sheriff Danny Arnold in the Golden Garter Saloon in 1959 with his Vigilantes. Dreamland Remembered by Nick Evans gives a third of his book to the Lido, with excellent glossy pictures and a history of both Dreamland and the Lido. Suzannah Mike Langston <mike@langston-online.co.uk> wrote: Hi all My parents and grandfather were involved with the Lido during the 1960's. Both my mum and dad worked in I think the western bar, might have been star and garter, it was a pretend cowboy theme. Also my grandfather died when he fell from scaffolding while working in the games room in Dec 1962. I would like any information, maybe there as been a book on the history of the Lido written, or if anyone knows about the Lido during the 1960's I would appreciate it. Thanks - Mike ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi all My parents and grandfather were involved with the Lido during the 1960's. Both my mum and dad worked in I think the western bar, might have been star and garter, it was a pretend cowboy theme. Also my grandfather died when he fell from scaffolding while working in the games room in Dec 1962. I would like any information, maybe there as been a book on the history of the Lido written, or if anyone knows about the Lido during the 1960's I would appreciate it. Thanks - Mike

My father worked in Broadstairs during the 1960's. For a time at a place called Harrows Stores in the High Street and also for Kent & Thanet Casinos, not sure where that was in Broadstairs. If anyone had information on these I would love to know. I believe he also worked in Margate at the Classic which was also a casino.

All the locations are very close. Flint Row was a lovely little cluster of cottages. In present day my Grandmother lived at Flint House, which has been built on the site. If you are unsure of any of the locations I can have a look through my bits and bobs and dig out some old and current maps. And when Flu free will take a wander over to Dane Hill and see which ones are still standing. Its not even 2 minutes from my house. I have a map showing Prospect Row, but only up to number 6. I also have a picture to hand looking down Dane Hill present day. I would like what you have on the Holloway's, I find it interesting to see they lived in Margate and can also keep it to one side until new listers arrive looking for the family names. Many Thanks Suzannah "A.D.Reynolds" <adr@westlodge37.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Thanks. I have all my Mirams after 1837 except Edward 1802's siblings. My Edward died at 33 Dane Hill, 12 August 1871 Mary Ann nee Saunders died 47 Milton Road, 25 February 1890 Births Edward b.4 Flint Row, St.John's 5 November 1839 William Holloway Mirams b. Drayson's Cottage, 5 June 1842 Sarah Maria b.8 Prospect Row, 20 March 1846 George and Edward died of smallpox within 10 days of each other (23 June and 1 July 1855 respectively) at Dane Hill. My later addresses fit with the births of William Holloway's children. Are you interested in them for your database? Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "ENSEMBLE SUZANNAH-FOAD" To: Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Miriams > Hello Tony, > > Thank you for your get well wishes, still suffering.! > > Edward Miriams was baptised at Birchington 23 May 1803 to John and Mary > > Siblings > John 18th Sep 1803 > Thomas 7th April 1805 > Sarah 30th Nov 1806 > James 24th July 1808 > > No other children baptised at Birchington and I wonder if this is John who married Mary Twyman in 1799 at Minster. > Pat Kendell, or Maid of Kent lister on the IOT has a Jane baptised 1816 to John and Mary Tywman so they may have moved to Ramsgate. Conjecture though as cannot prove same parents. > > > 1861 Census > Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 535; Folio: 55; Page: 13 > 8 Dane Hill, Margate > Edward aged 55 a Carrier and Mary aged 54. > > On the 1851 census, Edward and mary Miriams are in Margate, 8 Prospect Row, Dane Hill. > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1629; Folio: 443; Page: 11 > > Edward aged 45 a Carrier, > Wife Mary 44 > Children > George aged 16 Assistant to his father > Edward aged 11 > William aged 6 > Sarah aged 5 > > > 1841 Census, Drayson's Cottage, Dane Hill (this cottage was built by John Drayson pre 1821 and possible who Edward worked for) > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Civil Parish: St John the Baptist Margate; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 15; Page: 13 > (Remember the ages are rounded up!) > Edward born 1806 Labourer > Mary 1811 > Children > Elizabeth 1833 > George 1835 > Mary 1837 > Edward 1839 > All Born Margate apart from Mary born Jersey. > > > Possible deaths for Edward and Mary are > > Deaths Mar 1863 > Miriams Mary Thanet 2a 468 > Deaths Dec 1863 > Miriams Edward Thanet 2a 435 > > Good luck > Suzannah > > "A.D.Reynolds" wrote: > Hi Susannah, > That looks good. > Interestingly Louisa Sayer's daughter Eliza Sarah, (my grandmother), married > Frank William MIRAMS in 1903 but not the same line as yours. He was the son > of William Holloway Mirams and Emily HEWETT of Birchington; Wm.Holloway's > parents were Edward Mirams b.abt 1802 and Mary Ann SAUNDERS (born Jersey, > C.I. abt 1807) but I haven't got any further back reliably except to say > that my late Aunt found the marriage of a Mary HOLAWAY in a Parish Register > which she obviously thought significant. > It was her notes in her personal effects which got me started on all this! > > Hope the collywobbles have settled. > Regards, > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ENSEMBLE SUZANNAH-FOAD" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] re Minster Workhouse > > > > Hello Tony, > > > > Sorry for the delay in replying, we have a household sick to the stomach > with flu at present. I have added what I have so far, I will work on this > line a bit more as soon as 100% again. Looks like a match to me > > Kindest Regards > > Suzannah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Descendants of Henry Sayer > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. HENRY1 SAYER was born 1796 in St Lawrence Thanet Kent, and died 16 > Sep 1882 in Birchington Kent. He married SARAH MIRIAMS 25 Aug 1822 in All > Saints Birchington Kent, daughter of JOHN MIRIAMS and SARAH SPRATT. She was > born 1803 in Monkton Thanet Kent, and died 12 Dec 1878 in Birchington Kent. > > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > > Memorial Inscription on his Headstone in Birchington Churchyard Henry > Sayer died 16th September 1882, aged 86, having for 64 years been in service > of one family in this parish.(Source Sheila Foreman) Died of Heart Disease. > Dropsy > > 1851 Census, Agr Labourer aged 50, of The Street Birchington Kent > > 1881 Census, aged 85, Agr Labourer of Mill Row Birchington Kent > > Notes for SARAH MIRIAMS: > > Died of Natural Decay at 8 Mill Row Birchington Kent (Source Sheila > Foreman) > > 1851 Census, aged 48 > > More About SARAH MIRIAMS: > > Christening: 25 Sep 1803, Monkton Thanet Kent > > Marriage Notes for HENRY SAYER and SARAH MIRIAMS: Witnessed by Richard > Busbridge and Elizabeth Adams > > > > Children of HENRY SAYER and SARAH MIRIAMS are: > > i. MARY2 SAYER, b. 1822, Birchington Kent; m. JOHN STEVENS, 06 Jun > 1843, Birchington Kent; b. 1815, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet. > > More About MARY SAYER: > > Christening: 22 Dec 1822, All Saints Birchington Kent > > Notes for JOHN STEVENS: > > Son of William Stevens and Sarah Castle > > 1842, Time of marriage, Labourer of St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > > Marriage Notes for MARY SAYER and JOHN STEVENS: > > All Saints > > Witnessed by Richard Busbridge and Martha Stevens > > 2. ii. HENRY SAYER, b. Feb 1825, Birchington Kent. > > iii. SARAH SAYER, b. Apr 1827, Birchington Kent; d. 1827, Birchington > Kent. > > Notes for SARAH SAYER: > > All Saints > > More About SARAH SAYER: > > Christening: 13 May 1827, Birchington Kent > > 3. iv. STEPHEN SAYER, b. Jan 1829, Birchington Kent. > > v. WILLIAM SAYER, b. Mar 1831, Birchington Kent. > > More About WILLIAM SAYER: > > Census UK 1861: 17 Apr 1831, Birchington Kent > > vi. EDWARD SAYER, b. 1832, Birchington Kent; d. 21 May 1895, Birchington > Kent; m. EMMA SAVIN, 24 Sep 1859, Birchington Kent; b. 02 Oct 1841, > Birchington Kent; d. 26 Dec 1936, Margate Kent. > > Notes for EDWARD SAYER: > > 1861 Census, Agr Labourer, Cottage, Canterbury Road, Birchington Kent > > More About EDWARD SAYER: > > Census UK 1861: Apr 1861, Birchington Kent > > Notes for EMMA SAVIN: > > Thanet Q Dec 1841 Vol 5 Page 7 > > Died 111 All Saints Avenue (Source Sheila Foreman) > > More About EMMA SAVIN: > > Christening: 12 Dec 1841, Birchington Kent > > Marriage Notes for EDWARD SAYER and EMMA SAVIN: > > Salem Baptist Chapel > > vii. JOHN SAYER, b. Feb 1834, Birchington Kent; m. JOSEPHINE UNKNOWN, > 1855, St Peter's Thanet Kent; b. 1836, Margate Kent. > > Notes for JOHN SAYER: > > Nieces Sarah aged 15 and Emma Sayer aged 14 staying with John and > > Josephine on the 1881 Census. > > 1861 Census, Agr labourer of Garlinge Thanet Kent > > 1881 Census, Fly Proprietor and Lodging House Keeper of Buenos Ayres > > Margate Kent. Aged 47 > > More About JOHN SAYER: > > Census UK 1861: Apr 1861, Garlinge Thanet Kent > > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > > Christening: 16 Mar 1834, All Saints Birchington Kent > > 4. viii. JAMES SAYER, b. Jan 1836, Birchington Kent. > > ix. ELIZABETH SAYER, b. Jul 1838, Birchington Kent. > > Notes for ELIZABETH SAYER: > > 1851 Census, aged 12 > > More About ELIZABETH SAYER: > > Christening: 05 Aug 1838, All Saints Birchington Kent > > x. THOMAS SAYER, b. 10 May 1841, Birchington Kent; d. 19 Feb 1904, > Birchington Kent; m. CHARLOTTE HOLTUM. > > Notes for THOMAS SAYER: > > 1851 Census,a ged 9 > > xi. GEORGE SAYER, b. 1845, Birchington Kent. > > Notes for GEORGE SAYER: > > 1851 Census, aged 7 > > xii. WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER, b. Sep 1845, Birchington Kent; m. JANE > COZENS, 1866, St John's Margate Kent; b. 1845, Margate Kent. > > Notes for WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER: > > 1851 Census, aged 5 > > More About WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER: > > Christening: 19 Oct 1845, All Saints Birchington Kent > > xiii. SAMUEL SAYER, b. Oct 1850, Birchington Kent; d. 1851, Birchington > Kent. > > Notes for SAMUEL SAYER: > > 1851 Census, aged 6 months > > 1881, Aged 30 Unmarried and living with father Henry at Mill Row > > Birchington Kent > > More About SAMUEL SAYER: > > Christening: 10 Nov 1850, All Saints Birchington Kent > > xiv. SAMUEL SAYER, b. Jul 1851, Birchington Kent. > > Notes for SAMUEL SAYER: > > Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer > > More About SAMUEL SAYER: > > Christening: 10 Aug 1851, All Saints Birchington Kent > > xv. ROSE SAYER, b. 1866, Birchington Kent. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. HENRY2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Feb 1825 in Birchington Kent. He > married EMMA ANN UNKNOWN 1848 in St John's Margate Kent. She was born 1829 > in Staple Kent, and died Mar 1908 in St Peter's Thanet Kent. > > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > > Boarder on the 1861 Census, William Hawleyer aged 1 month born Margate > > Grand daughter Florence S Pointer staying with the family on the 1881 > Census. > > Also 6 Boarders > > Henry S Stace aged 25 Carpenter born Kennington Surrey > > Charles T Powell aged 25, Clerk born Bishopsgate London > > Thomas Haismer aged 43 Bricklayer born Faversham Kent > > Thomas Haismer aged 16 Bricklayers Labourer born Faversham > > Austin J Long aged 21, Bricklayers Labourer born Boughton Kent > > 1851 Census, aged 26 Unmarried > > 1861 Census, Bricklayer of Garlinge Thanet Kent > > More About HENRY SAYER: > > Christening: 20 Mar 1825, All Saints Birchington Kent > > > > Children of HENRY SAYER and EMMA UNKNOWN are: > > i. MARY A3 SAYER, b. Jun 1849, Birchington Kent. > > Notes for MARY A SAYER: > > Thanet Vol 5 Page 511 > > ii. EMMA ANN SAYER, b. Dec 1852, Margate Kent; d. 10 Feb 1897, Margate > Kent; m. HENRY CHARLES S POINTER, Dec 1873, Margate Thanet Kent; b. 1852, > Thanet Kent. > > Notes for EMMA ANN SAYER: > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 563 > > 1881 Census, aged 28, living with her husband Henry at 2 Chester Road > > Margate Kent > > Children, > > Eliza A Pointer aged 8 > > Rebecca E Pointer aged 3 > > Emma aged 10 Months born Westgate > > More About HENRY CHARLES S POINTER: > > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > > Marriage Notes for EMMA SAYER and HENRY POINTER: > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 1004 > > iii. REBECCA SAYER, b. 1856, Margate Kent; m. RICHARD TUMBER, Dec 1878, > St Peter's Thanet Kent; b. 1855, Ash Kent. > > Notes for REBECCA SAYER: > > 1881 Census, aged 25 living at 8 Chester Road with husband Richard > > Tumber. (Sister Emma lives 6 doors away at 2 Chester Road.) > > Children > > Richard Tumber aged 1 Westgate > > Alice aged 7 Months Westgate > > More About RICHARD TUMBER: > > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > > Marriage Notes for REBECCA SAYER and RICHARD TUMBER: > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 1536 > > iv. WILLIAM SAYER, b. Dec 1866, Garlinge Kent; d. Jun 1898, St Peter's > Thanet Kent. > > Notes for WILLIAM SAYER: > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 770 > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 512 > > Aged 32 > > 1881 Census, aged 16, Bricklayer > > v. ELLEN SAYER, b. 1870, Garlinge Kent. > > > > 3. STEPHEN2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Jan 1829 in Birchington Kent. He > married ELIZA GODDEN 21 May 1853 in All Saints Birchington Kent. She was > born 1833 in Kent, and died Bef. 1881 in St Peter's Thanet Kent. > > More About STEPHEN SAYER: > > Christening: 11 Jan 1829, All Saints, Birchington Kent > > Notes for ELIZA GODDEN: > > Daughter of William Godden > > Marriage Notes for STEPHEN SAYER and ELIZA GODDEN: Witnessed by Edward > and Elizabeth Sayer. > > > > Children of STEPHEN SAYER and ELIZA GODDEN are: > > i. JAMES3 SAYER, b. 1853, Birchington Kent. > > More About JAMES SAYER: > > Christening: 18 Sep 1853, All Saints Birchington Kent > > ii. CHARLES WILLIAM SAYER, b. 1856, Birchington Kent. > > iii. LOUISA SAYER, b. 1858, Birchington Kent. > > iv. JAMES SAYER, b. 1874, Birchington Kent; d. 10 Mar 1949, Birchington > Kent. > > > > 4. JAMES2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Jan 1836 in Birchington Kent. He > married EMMA MILLGATE 1859 in Blean Kent. She was born 1838 in Acol Kent. > > Notes for JAMES SAYER: > > 1851, Aged 15 > > 1871 Census, Waggoner of the Street, St Nicholas Thanet Kent > > 1881 Census, The Street, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. Farm Waggoner > > 1891 Census, Agr Labourer of The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > > More About JAMES SAYER: > > Christening: 21 Feb 1836, All Saints, Birchington Kent > > > > Children of JAMES SAYER and EMMA MILLGATE are: > > i. HENRY3 SAYER, b. 1860, Chislet Kent. > > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > > 1871 Census, Employed on farm aged 11 > > ii. ELEANOR SAYER, b. 1862, Chislet Kent. > > iii. JAMES SAYER, b. 1865, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > iv. EMMA SAYER, b. 1867, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > 5. v. LOUISA MARY SAYER, b. 1870, St Nicholas Thanet Kent. > > vi. JOHN SAYER, b. 1872, St Nicholas at Wade, Thanet Kent. > > vii. GEORGE SAYER, b. 1875, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > viii. WILLIAM ALAN SAYER, b. 1877, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > Notes for WILLIAM ALAN SAYER: > > 1891 Census, Agr Labourer aged 14 > > ix. ELIZABETH MARY SAYER, b. 1880, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > x. ARTHUR E SAYER, b. 1884, St Nicholas Thanet Kent. > > Notes for ARTHUR E SAYER: > > 1901 Census, Staying with hs sister Louisa and brother in law Thomas > Ireland at The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent Groom Domestic. > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > > 5. LOUISA MARY3 SAYER (JAMES2, HENRY1) was born 1870 in St Nicholas > Thanet Kent. She married THOMAS RAINER IRELAND Dec 1892 in Blean Kent, son > of JOHN IRELAND and HARRIETT MARTIN. He was born Dec 1867 in Chislet Kent. > > Notes for LOUISA MARY SAYER: > > 1891 Census, staying with her Uncle William Sayer a Cow Keeper at Edgar > House Minster. Louisa is a Housekeeper to her widowed Uncle, possibly till > the time of her marriage in 1892. Next door to William Sayer is John and > Emma Foad. > > 1901 Census, aged 31, The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > > Arthur E Sayer Brother of Louisa, staying on Census night, aged 17, > Groom. > > Notes for THOMAS RAINER IRELAND: Blean Vol 2a Page 1210 > > 1881 Census, aged 13 and working as a Farm servant. > > 1901 Census, aged 33 Waggoner on Farm, The Street, St Nicholas at Wade > Thanet Kent > > Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 819; Folio: 57; Page: 8. > > 1936 Kelly's Directory 2 Wellington Cottages, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet > Kent > > Marriage Notes for LOUISA SAYER and THOMAS IRELAND: Thanet Vol 2a Page > 1797 > > > > Child of LOUISA SAYER and THOMAS IRELAND is: > > i. EDWIN C4 IRELAND, b. 1894, St Nicholas at Wade Kent. > > Notes for EDWIN C IRELAND: > > 1901 Census, aged 7 The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent with > parents > > > > > > > > "A.D.Reynolds" wrote: > > Thanks to all for helpful postings. > > > > Susannah, > > > > I have Louisa Sayer born to Stephen Sayer and Eliza nee Godden at > Birchington 17 Feb 1858. Parents married Birchington Parish Church 21 May > 1853, his father was a Henry Sayer ?yours. > > > > Louisa married Frederick James Cox at All Saints' Birchington 20 October > 1878. She was then a spinster which agrees with no husband at my > grandmother's birth in August. > > > > I got my certificates from Thanet Registration so not sure of GRO ref. I > can only see one Louisa on the Index. > > > > Tony > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks. I have all my Mirams after 1837 except Edward 1802's siblings. My Edward died at 33 Dane Hill, 12 August 1871 Mary Ann nee Saunders died 47 Milton Road, 25 February 1890 Births Edward b.4 Flint Row, St.John's 5 November 1839 William Holloway Mirams b. Drayson's Cottage, 5 June 1842 Sarah Maria b.8 Prospect Row, 20 March 1846 George and Edward died of smallpox within 10 days of each other (23 June and 1 July 1855 respectively) at Dane Hill. My later addresses fit with the births of William Holloway's children. Are you interested in them for your database? Regards Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "ENSEMBLE SUZANNAH-FOAD" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, October 25, 2006 4:54 PM Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] Miriams > Hello Tony, > > Thank you for your get well wishes, still suffering.! > > Edward Miriams was baptised at Birchington 23 May 1803 to John and Mary > > Siblings > John 18th Sep 1803 > Thomas 7th April 1805 > Sarah 30th Nov 1806 > James 24th July 1808 > > No other children baptised at Birchington and I wonder if this is John who married Mary Twyman in 1799 at Minster. > Pat Kendell, or Maid of Kent lister on the IOT has a Jane baptised 1816 to John and Mary Tywman so they may have moved to Ramsgate. Conjecture though as cannot prove same parents. > > > 1861 Census > Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 535; Folio: 55; Page: 13 > 8 Dane Hill, Margate > Edward aged 55 a Carrier and Mary aged 54. > > On the 1851 census, Edward and mary Miriams are in Margate, 8 Prospect Row, Dane Hill. > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1629; Folio: 443; Page: 11 > > Edward aged 45 a Carrier, > Wife Mary 44 > Children > George aged 16 Assistant to his father > Edward aged 11 > William aged 6 > Sarah aged 5 > > > 1841 Census, Drayson's Cottage, Dane Hill (this cottage was built by John Drayson pre 1821 and possible who Edward worked for) > Source Citation: Class: HO107; Civil Parish: St John the Baptist Margate; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 15; Page: 13 > (Remember the ages are rounded up!) > Edward born 1806 Labourer > Mary 1811 > Children > Elizabeth 1833 > George 1835 > Mary 1837 > Edward 1839 > All Born Margate apart from Mary born Jersey. > > > Possible deaths for Edward and Mary are > > Deaths Mar 1863 > Miriams Mary Thanet 2a 468 > Deaths Dec 1863 > Miriams Edward Thanet 2a 435 > > Good luck > Suzannah > > "A.D.Reynolds" <adr@westlodge37.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Hi Susannah, > That looks good. > Interestingly Louisa Sayer's daughter Eliza Sarah, (my grandmother), married > Frank William MIRAMS in 1903 but not the same line as yours. He was the son > of William Holloway Mirams and Emily HEWETT of Birchington; Wm.Holloway's > parents were Edward Mirams b.abt 1802 and Mary Ann SAUNDERS (born Jersey, > C.I. abt 1807) but I haven't got any further back reliably except to say > that my late Aunt found the marriage of a Mary HOLAWAY in a Parish Register > which she obviously thought significant. > It was her notes in her personal effects which got me started on all this! > > Hope the collywobbles have settled. > Regards, > Tony > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "ENSEMBLE SUZANNAH-FOAD" > To: > Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:08 PM > Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] re Minster Workhouse > > > > Hello Tony, > > > > Sorry for the delay in replying, we have a household sick to the stomach > with flu at present. I have added what I have so far, I will work on this > line a bit more as soon as 100% again. Looks like a match to me > > Kindest Regards > > Suzannah > > > > > > > > > > > > > > Descendants of Henry Sayer > > > > > > Generation No. 1 > > > > 1. HENRY1 SAYER was born 1796 in St Lawrence Thanet Kent, and died 16 > Sep 1882 in Birchington Kent. He married SARAH MIRIAMS 25 Aug 1822 in All > Saints Birchington Kent, daughter of JOHN MIRIAMS and SARAH SPRATT. She was > born 1803 in Monkton Thanet Kent, and died 12 Dec 1878 in Birchington Kent. > > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > > Memorial Inscription on his Headstone in Birchington Churchyard Henry > Sayer died 16th September 1882, aged 86, having for 64 years been in service > of one family in this parish.(Source Sheila Foreman) Died of Heart Disease. > Dropsy > > 1851 Census, Agr Labourer aged 50, of The Street Birchington Kent > > 1881 Census, aged 85, Agr Labourer of Mill Row Birchington Kent > > Notes for SARAH MIRIAMS: > > Died of Natural Decay at 8 Mill Row Birchington Kent (Source Sheila > Foreman) > > 1851 Census, aged 48 > > More About SARAH MIRIAMS: > > Christening: 25 Sep 1803, Monkton Thanet Kent > > Marriage Notes for HENRY SAYER and SARAH MIRIAMS: Witnessed by Richard > Busbridge and Elizabeth Adams > > > > Children of HENRY SAYER and SARAH MIRIAMS are: > > i. MARY2 SAYER, b. 1822, Birchington Kent; m. JOHN STEVENS, 06 Jun > 1843, Birchington Kent; b. 1815, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet. > > More About MARY SAYER: > > Christening: 22 Dec 1822, All Saints Birchington Kent > > Notes for JOHN STEVENS: > > Son of William Stevens and Sarah Castle > > 1842, Time of marriage, Labourer of St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > > Marriage Notes for MARY SAYER and JOHN STEVENS: > > All Saints > > Witnessed by Richard Busbridge and Martha Stevens > > 2. ii. HENRY SAYER, b. Feb 1825, Birchington Kent. > > iii. SARAH SAYER, b. Apr 1827, Birchington Kent; d. 1827, Birchington > Kent. > > Notes for SARAH SAYER: > > All Saints > > More About SARAH SAYER: > > Christening: 13 May 1827, Birchington Kent > > 3. iv. STEPHEN SAYER, b. Jan 1829, Birchington Kent. > > v. WILLIAM SAYER, b. Mar 1831, Birchington Kent. > > More About WILLIAM SAYER: > > Census UK 1861: 17 Apr 1831, Birchington Kent > > vi. EDWARD SAYER, b. 1832, Birchington Kent; d. 21 May 1895, Birchington > Kent; m. EMMA SAVIN, 24 Sep 1859, Birchington Kent; b. 02 Oct 1841, > Birchington Kent; d. 26 Dec 1936, Margate Kent. > > Notes for EDWARD SAYER: > > 1861 Census, Agr Labourer, Cottage, Canterbury Road, Birchington Kent > > More About EDWARD SAYER: > > Census UK 1861: Apr 1861, Birchington Kent > > Notes for EMMA SAVIN: > > Thanet Q Dec 1841 Vol 5 Page 7 > > Died 111 All Saints Avenue (Source Sheila Foreman) > > More About EMMA SAVIN: > > Christening: 12 Dec 1841, Birchington Kent > > Marriage Notes for EDWARD SAYER and EMMA SAVIN: > > Salem Baptist Chapel > > vii. JOHN SAYER, b. Feb 1834, Birchington Kent; m. JOSEPHINE UNKNOWN, > 1855, St Peter's Thanet Kent; b. 1836, Margate Kent. > > Notes for JOHN SAYER: > > Nieces Sarah aged 15 and Emma Sayer aged 14 staying with John and > > Josephine on the 1881 Census. > > 1861 Census, Agr labourer of Garlinge Thanet Kent > > 1881 Census, Fly Proprietor and Lodging House Keeper of Buenos Ayres > > Margate Kent. Aged 47 > > More About JOHN SAYER: > > Census UK 1861: Apr 1861, Garlinge Thanet Kent > > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > > Christening: 16 Mar 1834, All Saints Birchington Kent > > 4. viii. JAMES SAYER, b. Jan 1836, Birchington Kent. > > ix. ELIZABETH SAYER, b. Jul 1838, Birchington Kent. > > Notes for ELIZABETH SAYER: > > 1851 Census, aged 12 > > More About ELIZABETH SAYER: > > Christening: 05 Aug 1838, All Saints Birchington Kent > > x. THOMAS SAYER, b. 10 May 1841, Birchington Kent; d. 19 Feb 1904, > Birchington Kent; m. CHARLOTTE HOLTUM. > > Notes for THOMAS SAYER: > > 1851 Census,a ged 9 > > xi. GEORGE SAYER, b. 1845, Birchington Kent. > > Notes for GEORGE SAYER: > > 1851 Census, aged 7 > > xii. WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER, b. Sep 1845, Birchington Kent; m. JANE > COZENS, 1866, St John's Margate Kent; b. 1845, Margate Kent. > > Notes for WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER: > > 1851 Census, aged 5 > > More About WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER: > > Christening: 19 Oct 1845, All Saints Birchington Kent > > xiii. SAMUEL SAYER, b. Oct 1850, Birchington Kent; d. 1851, Birchington > Kent. > > Notes for SAMUEL SAYER: > > 1851 Census, aged 6 months > > 1881, Aged 30 Unmarried and living with father Henry at Mill Row > > Birchington Kent > > More About SAMUEL SAYER: > > Christening: 10 Nov 1850, All Saints Birchington Kent > > xiv. SAMUEL SAYER, b. Jul 1851, Birchington Kent. > > Notes for SAMUEL SAYER: > > Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer > > More About SAMUEL SAYER: > > Christening: 10 Aug 1851, All Saints Birchington Kent > > xv. ROSE SAYER, b. 1866, Birchington Kent. > > > > Generation No. 2 > > > > 2. HENRY2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Feb 1825 in Birchington Kent. He > married EMMA ANN UNKNOWN 1848 in St John's Margate Kent. She was born 1829 > in Staple Kent, and died Mar 1908 in St Peter's Thanet Kent. > > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > > Boarder on the 1861 Census, William Hawleyer aged 1 month born Margate > > Grand daughter Florence S Pointer staying with the family on the 1881 > Census. > > Also 6 Boarders > > Henry S Stace aged 25 Carpenter born Kennington Surrey > > Charles T Powell aged 25, Clerk born Bishopsgate London > > Thomas Haismer aged 43 Bricklayer born Faversham Kent > > Thomas Haismer aged 16 Bricklayers Labourer born Faversham > > Austin J Long aged 21, Bricklayers Labourer born Boughton Kent > > 1851 Census, aged 26 Unmarried > > 1861 Census, Bricklayer of Garlinge Thanet Kent > > More About HENRY SAYER: > > Christening: 20 Mar 1825, All Saints Birchington Kent > > > > Children of HENRY SAYER and EMMA UNKNOWN are: > > i. MARY A3 SAYER, b. Jun 1849, Birchington Kent. > > Notes for MARY A SAYER: > > Thanet Vol 5 Page 511 > > ii. EMMA ANN SAYER, b. Dec 1852, Margate Kent; d. 10 Feb 1897, Margate > Kent; m. HENRY CHARLES S POINTER, Dec 1873, Margate Thanet Kent; b. 1852, > Thanet Kent. > > Notes for EMMA ANN SAYER: > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 563 > > 1881 Census, aged 28, living with her husband Henry at 2 Chester Road > > Margate Kent > > Children, > > Eliza A Pointer aged 8 > > Rebecca E Pointer aged 3 > > Emma aged 10 Months born Westgate > > More About HENRY CHARLES S POINTER: > > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > > Marriage Notes for EMMA SAYER and HENRY POINTER: > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 1004 > > iii. REBECCA SAYER, b. 1856, Margate Kent; m. RICHARD TUMBER, Dec 1878, > St Peter's Thanet Kent; b. 1855, Ash Kent. > > Notes for REBECCA SAYER: > > 1881 Census, aged 25 living at 8 Chester Road with husband Richard > > Tumber. (Sister Emma lives 6 doors away at 2 Chester Road.) > > Children > > Richard Tumber aged 1 Westgate > > Alice aged 7 Months Westgate > > More About RICHARD TUMBER: > > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > > Marriage Notes for REBECCA SAYER and RICHARD TUMBER: > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 1536 > > iv. WILLIAM SAYER, b. Dec 1866, Garlinge Kent; d. Jun 1898, St Peter's > Thanet Kent. > > Notes for WILLIAM SAYER: > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 770 > > Thanet Vol 2a Page 512 > > Aged 32 > > 1881 Census, aged 16, Bricklayer > > v. ELLEN SAYER, b. 1870, Garlinge Kent. > > > > 3. STEPHEN2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Jan 1829 in Birchington Kent. He > married ELIZA GODDEN 21 May 1853 in All Saints Birchington Kent. She was > born 1833 in Kent, and died Bef. 1881 in St Peter's Thanet Kent. > > More About STEPHEN SAYER: > > Christening: 11 Jan 1829, All Saints, Birchington Kent > > Notes for ELIZA GODDEN: > > Daughter of William Godden > > Marriage Notes for STEPHEN SAYER and ELIZA GODDEN: Witnessed by Edward > and Elizabeth Sayer. > > > > Children of STEPHEN SAYER and ELIZA GODDEN are: > > i. JAMES3 SAYER, b. 1853, Birchington Kent. > > More About JAMES SAYER: > > Christening: 18 Sep 1853, All Saints Birchington Kent > > ii. CHARLES WILLIAM SAYER, b. 1856, Birchington Kent. > > iii. LOUISA SAYER, b. 1858, Birchington Kent. > > iv. JAMES SAYER, b. 1874, Birchington Kent; d. 10 Mar 1949, Birchington > Kent. > > > > 4. JAMES2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Jan 1836 in Birchington Kent. He > married EMMA MILLGATE 1859 in Blean Kent. She was born 1838 in Acol Kent. > > Notes for JAMES SAYER: > > 1851, Aged 15 > > 1871 Census, Waggoner of the Street, St Nicholas Thanet Kent > > 1881 Census, The Street, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. Farm Waggoner > > 1891 Census, Agr Labourer of The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > > More About JAMES SAYER: > > Christening: 21 Feb 1836, All Saints, Birchington Kent > > > > Children of JAMES SAYER and EMMA MILLGATE are: > > i. HENRY3 SAYER, b. 1860, Chislet Kent. > > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > > 1871 Census, Employed on farm aged 11 > > ii. ELEANOR SAYER, b. 1862, Chislet Kent. > > iii. JAMES SAYER, b. 1865, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > iv. EMMA SAYER, b. 1867, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > 5. v. LOUISA MARY SAYER, b. 1870, St Nicholas Thanet Kent. > > vi. JOHN SAYER, b. 1872, St Nicholas at Wade, Thanet Kent. > > vii. GEORGE SAYER, b. 1875, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > viii. WILLIAM ALAN SAYER, b. 1877, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > Notes for WILLIAM ALAN SAYER: > > 1891 Census, Agr Labourer aged 14 > > ix. ELIZABETH MARY SAYER, b. 1880, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > > x. ARTHUR E SAYER, b. 1884, St Nicholas Thanet Kent. > > Notes for ARTHUR E SAYER: > > 1901 Census, Staying with hs sister Louisa and brother in law Thomas > Ireland at The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent Groom Domestic. > > > > Generation No. 3 > > > > 5. LOUISA MARY3 SAYER (JAMES2, HENRY1) was born 1870 in St Nicholas > Thanet Kent. She married THOMAS RAINER IRELAND Dec 1892 in Blean Kent, son > of JOHN IRELAND and HARRIETT MARTIN. He was born Dec 1867 in Chislet Kent. > > Notes for LOUISA MARY SAYER: > > 1891 Census, staying with her Uncle William Sayer a Cow Keeper at Edgar > House Minster. Louisa is a Housekeeper to her widowed Uncle, possibly till > the time of her marriage in 1892. Next door to William Sayer is John and > Emma Foad. > > 1901 Census, aged 31, The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > > Arthur E Sayer Brother of Louisa, staying on Census night, aged 17, > Groom. > > Notes for THOMAS RAINER IRELAND: Blean Vol 2a Page 1210 > > 1881 Census, aged 13 and working as a Farm servant. > > 1901 Census, aged 33 Waggoner on Farm, The Street, St Nicholas at Wade > Thanet Kent > > Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 819; Folio: 57; Page: 8. > > 1936 Kelly's Directory 2 Wellington Cottages, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet > Kent > > Marriage Notes for LOUISA SAYER and THOMAS IRELAND: Thanet Vol 2a Page > 1797 > > > > Child of LOUISA SAYER and THOMAS IRELAND is: > > i. EDWIN C4 IRELAND, b. 1894, St Nicholas at Wade Kent. > > Notes for EDWIN C IRELAND: > > 1901 Census, aged 7 The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent with > parents > > > > > > > > "A.D.Reynolds" wrote: > > Thanks to all for helpful postings. > > > > Susannah, > > > > I have Louisa Sayer born to Stephen Sayer and Eliza nee Godden at > Birchington 17 Feb 1858. Parents married Birchington Parish Church 21 May > 1853, his father was a Henry Sayer ?yours. > > > > Louisa married Frederick James Cox at All Saints' Birchington 20 October > 1878. She was then a spinster which agrees with no husband at my > grandmother's birth in August. > > > > I got my certificates from Thanet Registration so not sure of GRO ref. I > can only see one Louisa on the Index. > > > > Tony > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

That's only the half of it! Sorry. x "PJK :o))" <pat@kendell.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: It's ANN Miriams, bpt. 1816 that I have, not Jane. Can tell you're poorly !! :o) Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent No other children baptised at Birchington and I wonder if this is John who married Mary Twyman in 1799 at Minster. Pat Kendell, or Maid of Kent lister on the IOT has a Jane baptised 1816 to John and Mary Tywman so they may have moved to Ramsgate. Conjecture though as cannot prove same parents. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

It's ANN Miriams, bpt. 1816 that I have, not Jane. Can tell you're poorly !! :o) Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent No other children baptised at Birchington and I wonder if this is John who married Mary Twyman in 1799 at Minster. Pat Kendell, or Maid of Kent lister on the IOT has a Jane baptised 1816 to John and Mary Tywman so they may have moved to Ramsgate. Conjecture though as cannot prove same parents.

Hi Thanet researchers, Doing research on HARRISON side of the family from Margate and trying to find parents of John Slater HARRISON born in Margate abt 1804. Does anyone have access to Parish records possibly at St. John's for that time period? I have found him on the 1841, 1851, 1861 & 1871 census, living in Oxford. All show born in Margate, Kent. Checked the LDS site and it just gives where he was living in Oxford and that he married Louisa Scott. Any help always appreciated. ~Elaine

I had a lot of help from Susannah (thanks again) when I subscribed to this list last year and having done a little more research and found more contacts it seemed a good idea to join again. I am researching my husband's family originating in Deal with James Smith (b.1764) married to Martha (? - no surname) I am told by a familiy member that this couple had 10 children but a search on the IGI on line reveals only one named Margaret b.1800 in Deal. Would anyone have any idea which church this might have been and if the parish records are likely to reveal more information that is in the IGI? Any suggestions as to how to identify a surname for Martha - eg marriage records? Again, nothing on the IGI that I can bring up. If my contact is correct the first child was born in 1787 and called Elizabeth Watson Smith. Could it maybe therefor be Martha Watson?? Carol Smith (was Richardson last year) Derby, UK

Dear Carol, The only info in the IGI for Deal is the following Town or Parish (Church or Chapel) Births or Christenings Deal (Ebenezer Wesleyan) C068171 1806-1837 (Independent) C068161 1802-1837 C068162 1681-1802 The main church was St Leonard with christening records from 1559.Copies are available at the Center for Kentish Studies, Kent Family History Society and the SOG. Then there is also St George's which used to be a chapelry to St Leonard. Christenings from 1781. St Andrew was a chapel of ease, but their records start in 1852, so not what you are looking for. I have fiche for St Leonard's and St George's - not sure if they cover the dates you're interested in. I may get a chance to look tomorrow when I'm at my local LDS. I volunteer there. If the regulars show up then they generally don't need help, but if a new person comes, then I can spend all morning with them and so won't get chance to look at my fiche. How did you get back to James Smith? Best wishes Elizabeth Carol Richardson wrote: >I had a lot of help from Susannah (thanks again) when I subscribed to this list last year and having done a little more research and found more contacts it seemed a good idea to join again. > >I am researching my husband's family originating in Deal with James Smith (b.1764) married to Martha (? - no surname) I am told by a familiy member that this couple had 10 children but a search on the IGI on line reveals only one named Margaret b.1800 in Deal. Would anyone have any idea which church this might have been and if the parish records are likely to reveal more information that is in the IGI? Any suggestions as to how to identify a surname for Martha - eg marriage records? Again, nothing on the IGI that I can bring up. If my contact is correct the first child was born in 1787 and called Elizabeth Watson Smith. Could it maybe therefor be Martha Watson?? > >Carol Smith (was Richardson last year) >Derby, UK > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Dear Carol, I'm sure that if Suzannah was feeling well, she'd point out that Deal is not part of the Isle of Thanet, so is not discussed here. There is a kent Rootsweb list - see the following link: http://lists.rootsweb.com/index/intl/ENG/KENT-ENG.html plus the Kent Family History Society has a mailing list for society members and a Deal Branch: http://www.kfhs.org.uk/ http://www.kfhs-deal.freeuk.com/ I will e-mail you off-list with more information on Deal. Best wishes Elizabeth Carol Richardson wrote: >I had a lot of help from Susannah (thanks again) when I subscribed to this list last year and having done a little more research and found more contacts it seemed a good idea to join again. > >I am researching my husband's family originating in Deal with James Smith (b.1764) married to Martha (? - no surname) I am told by a familiy member that this couple had 10 children but a search on the IGI on line reveals only one named Margaret b.1800 in Deal. Would anyone have any idea which church this might have been and if the parish records are likely to reveal more information that is in the IGI? Any suggestions as to how to identify a surname for Martha - eg marriage records? Again, nothing on the IGI that I can bring up. If my contact is correct the first child was born in 1787 and called Elizabeth Watson Smith. Could it maybe therefor be Martha Watson?? > >Carol Smith (was Richardson last year) >Derby, UK > > > >------------------------------- >To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > >

Hello Tony, Thank you for your get well wishes, still suffering.! Edward Miriams was baptised at Birchington 23 May 1803 to John and Mary Siblings John 18th Sep 1803 Thomas 7th April 1805 Sarah 30th Nov 1806 James 24th July 1808 No other children baptised at Birchington and I wonder if this is John who married Mary Twyman in 1799 at Minster. Pat Kendell, or Maid of Kent lister on the IOT has a Jane baptised 1816 to John and Mary Tywman so they may have moved to Ramsgate. Conjecture though as cannot prove same parents. 1861 Census Source Citation: Class: RG9; Piece: 535; Folio: 55; Page: 13 8 Dane Hill, Margate Edward aged 55 a Carrier and Mary aged 54. On the 1851 census, Edward and mary Miriams are in Margate, 8 Prospect Row, Dane Hill. Source Citation: Class: HO107; Piece: 1629; Folio: 443; Page: 11 Edward aged 45 a Carrier, Wife Mary 44 Children George aged 16 Assistant to his father Edward aged 11 William aged 6 Sarah aged 5 1841 Census, Drayson's Cottage, Dane Hill (this cottage was built by John Drayson pre 1821 and possible who Edward worked for) Source Citation: Class: HO107; Civil Parish: St John the Baptist Margate; County: Kent; Enumeration District: 15; Page: 13 (Remember the ages are rounded up!) Edward born 1806 Labourer Mary 1811 Children Elizabeth 1833 George 1835 Mary 1837 Edward 1839 All Born Margate apart from Mary born Jersey. Possible deaths for Edward and Mary are Deaths Mar 1863 Miriams Mary Thanet 2a 468 Deaths Dec 1863 Miriams Edward Thanet 2a 435 Good luck Suzannah "A.D.Reynolds" <adr@westlodge37.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: Hi Susannah, That looks good. Interestingly Louisa Sayer's daughter Eliza Sarah, (my grandmother), married Frank William MIRAMS in 1903 but not the same line as yours. He was the son of William Holloway Mirams and Emily HEWETT of Birchington; Wm.Holloway's parents were Edward Mirams b.abt 1802 and Mary Ann SAUNDERS (born Jersey, C.I. abt 1807) but I haven't got any further back reliably except to say that my late Aunt found the marriage of a Mary HOLAWAY in a Parish Register which she obviously thought significant. It was her notes in her personal effects which got me started on all this! Hope the collywobbles have settled. Regards, Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "ENSEMBLE SUZANNAH-FOAD" To: Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] re Minster Workhouse > Hello Tony, > > Sorry for the delay in replying, we have a household sick to the stomach with flu at present. I have added what I have so far, I will work on this line a bit more as soon as 100% again. Looks like a match to me > Kindest Regards > Suzannah > > > > > > > Descendants of Henry Sayer > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. HENRY1 SAYER was born 1796 in St Lawrence Thanet Kent, and died 16 Sep 1882 in Birchington Kent. He married SARAH MIRIAMS 25 Aug 1822 in All Saints Birchington Kent, daughter of JOHN MIRIAMS and SARAH SPRATT. She was born 1803 in Monkton Thanet Kent, and died 12 Dec 1878 in Birchington Kent. > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > Memorial Inscription on his Headstone in Birchington Churchyard Henry Sayer died 16th September 1882, aged 86, having for 64 years been in service of one family in this parish.(Source Sheila Foreman) Died of Heart Disease. Dropsy > 1851 Census, Agr Labourer aged 50, of The Street Birchington Kent > 1881 Census, aged 85, Agr Labourer of Mill Row Birchington Kent > Notes for SARAH MIRIAMS: > Died of Natural Decay at 8 Mill Row Birchington Kent (Source Sheila Foreman) > 1851 Census, aged 48 > More About SARAH MIRIAMS: > Christening: 25 Sep 1803, Monkton Thanet Kent > Marriage Notes for HENRY SAYER and SARAH MIRIAMS: Witnessed by Richard Busbridge and Elizabeth Adams > > Children of HENRY SAYER and SARAH MIRIAMS are: > i. MARY2 SAYER, b. 1822, Birchington Kent; m. JOHN STEVENS, 06 Jun 1843, Birchington Kent; b. 1815, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet. > More About MARY SAYER: > Christening: 22 Dec 1822, All Saints Birchington Kent > Notes for JOHN STEVENS: > Son of William Stevens and Sarah Castle > 1842, Time of marriage, Labourer of St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > Marriage Notes for MARY SAYER and JOHN STEVENS: > All Saints > Witnessed by Richard Busbridge and Martha Stevens > 2. ii. HENRY SAYER, b. Feb 1825, Birchington Kent. > iii. SARAH SAYER, b. Apr 1827, Birchington Kent; d. 1827, Birchington Kent. > Notes for SARAH SAYER: > All Saints > More About SARAH SAYER: > Christening: 13 May 1827, Birchington Kent > 3. iv. STEPHEN SAYER, b. Jan 1829, Birchington Kent. > v. WILLIAM SAYER, b. Mar 1831, Birchington Kent. > More About WILLIAM SAYER: > Census UK 1861: 17 Apr 1831, Birchington Kent > vi. EDWARD SAYER, b. 1832, Birchington Kent; d. 21 May 1895, Birchington Kent; m. EMMA SAVIN, 24 Sep 1859, Birchington Kent; b. 02 Oct 1841, Birchington Kent; d. 26 Dec 1936, Margate Kent. > Notes for EDWARD SAYER: > 1861 Census, Agr Labourer, Cottage, Canterbury Road, Birchington Kent > More About EDWARD SAYER: > Census UK 1861: Apr 1861, Birchington Kent > Notes for EMMA SAVIN: > Thanet Q Dec 1841 Vol 5 Page 7 > Died 111 All Saints Avenue (Source Sheila Foreman) > More About EMMA SAVIN: > Christening: 12 Dec 1841, Birchington Kent > Marriage Notes for EDWARD SAYER and EMMA SAVIN: > Salem Baptist Chapel > vii. JOHN SAYER, b. Feb 1834, Birchington Kent; m. JOSEPHINE UNKNOWN, 1855, St Peter's Thanet Kent; b. 1836, Margate Kent. > Notes for JOHN SAYER: > Nieces Sarah aged 15 and Emma Sayer aged 14 staying with John and > Josephine on the 1881 Census. > 1861 Census, Agr labourer of Garlinge Thanet Kent > 1881 Census, Fly Proprietor and Lodging House Keeper of Buenos Ayres > Margate Kent. Aged 47 > More About JOHN SAYER: > Census UK 1861: Apr 1861, Garlinge Thanet Kent > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > Christening: 16 Mar 1834, All Saints Birchington Kent > 4. viii. JAMES SAYER, b. Jan 1836, Birchington Kent. > ix. ELIZABETH SAYER, b. Jul 1838, Birchington Kent. > Notes for ELIZABETH SAYER: > 1851 Census, aged 12 > More About ELIZABETH SAYER: > Christening: 05 Aug 1838, All Saints Birchington Kent > x. THOMAS SAYER, b. 10 May 1841, Birchington Kent; d. 19 Feb 1904, Birchington Kent; m. CHARLOTTE HOLTUM. > Notes for THOMAS SAYER: > 1851 Census,a ged 9 > xi. GEORGE SAYER, b. 1845, Birchington Kent. > Notes for GEORGE SAYER: > 1851 Census, aged 7 > xii. WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER, b. Sep 1845, Birchington Kent; m. JANE COZENS, 1866, St John's Margate Kent; b. 1845, Margate Kent. > Notes for WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER: > 1851 Census, aged 5 > More About WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER: > Christening: 19 Oct 1845, All Saints Birchington Kent > xiii. SAMUEL SAYER, b. Oct 1850, Birchington Kent; d. 1851, Birchington Kent. > Notes for SAMUEL SAYER: > 1851 Census, aged 6 months > 1881, Aged 30 Unmarried and living with father Henry at Mill Row > Birchington Kent > More About SAMUEL SAYER: > Christening: 10 Nov 1850, All Saints Birchington Kent > xiv. SAMUEL SAYER, b. Jul 1851, Birchington Kent. > Notes for SAMUEL SAYER: > Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer > More About SAMUEL SAYER: > Christening: 10 Aug 1851, All Saints Birchington Kent > xv. ROSE SAYER, b. 1866, Birchington Kent. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. HENRY2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Feb 1825 in Birchington Kent. He married EMMA ANN UNKNOWN 1848 in St John's Margate Kent. She was born 1829 in Staple Kent, and died Mar 1908 in St Peter's Thanet Kent. > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > Boarder on the 1861 Census, William Hawleyer aged 1 month born Margate > Grand daughter Florence S Pointer staying with the family on the 1881 Census. > Also 6 Boarders > Henry S Stace aged 25 Carpenter born Kennington Surrey > Charles T Powell aged 25, Clerk born Bishopsgate London > Thomas Haismer aged 43 Bricklayer born Faversham Kent > Thomas Haismer aged 16 Bricklayers Labourer born Faversham > Austin J Long aged 21, Bricklayers Labourer born Boughton Kent > 1851 Census, aged 26 Unmarried > 1861 Census, Bricklayer of Garlinge Thanet Kent > More About HENRY SAYER: > Christening: 20 Mar 1825, All Saints Birchington Kent > > Children of HENRY SAYER and EMMA UNKNOWN are: > i. MARY A3 SAYER, b. Jun 1849, Birchington Kent. > Notes for MARY A SAYER: > Thanet Vol 5 Page 511 > ii. EMMA ANN SAYER, b. Dec 1852, Margate Kent; d. 10 Feb 1897, Margate Kent; m. HENRY CHARLES S POINTER, Dec 1873, Margate Thanet Kent; b. 1852, Thanet Kent. > Notes for EMMA ANN SAYER: > Thanet Vol 2a Page 563 > 1881 Census, aged 28, living with her husband Henry at 2 Chester Road > Margate Kent > Children, > Eliza A Pointer aged 8 > Rebecca E Pointer aged 3 > Emma aged 10 Months born Westgate > More About HENRY CHARLES S POINTER: > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > Marriage Notes for EMMA SAYER and HENRY POINTER: > Thanet Vol 2a Page 1004 > iii. REBECCA SAYER, b. 1856, Margate Kent; m. RICHARD TUMBER, Dec 1878, St Peter's Thanet Kent; b. 1855, Ash Kent. > Notes for REBECCA SAYER: > 1881 Census, aged 25 living at 8 Chester Road with husband Richard > Tumber. (Sister Emma lives 6 doors away at 2 Chester Road.) > Children > Richard Tumber aged 1 Westgate > Alice aged 7 Months Westgate > More About RICHARD TUMBER: > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > Marriage Notes for REBECCA SAYER and RICHARD TUMBER: > Thanet Vol 2a Page 1536 > iv. WILLIAM SAYER, b. Dec 1866, Garlinge Kent; d. Jun 1898, St Peter's Thanet Kent. > Notes for WILLIAM SAYER: > Thanet Vol 2a Page 770 > Thanet Vol 2a Page 512 > Aged 32 > 1881 Census, aged 16, Bricklayer > v. ELLEN SAYER, b. 1870, Garlinge Kent. > > 3. STEPHEN2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Jan 1829 in Birchington Kent. He married ELIZA GODDEN 21 May 1853 in All Saints Birchington Kent. She was born 1833 in Kent, and died Bef. 1881 in St Peter's Thanet Kent. > More About STEPHEN SAYER: > Christening: 11 Jan 1829, All Saints, Birchington Kent > Notes for ELIZA GODDEN: > Daughter of William Godden > Marriage Notes for STEPHEN SAYER and ELIZA GODDEN: Witnessed by Edward and Elizabeth Sayer. > > Children of STEPHEN SAYER and ELIZA GODDEN are: > i. JAMES3 SAYER, b. 1853, Birchington Kent. > More About JAMES SAYER: > Christening: 18 Sep 1853, All Saints Birchington Kent > ii. CHARLES WILLIAM SAYER, b. 1856, Birchington Kent. > iii. LOUISA SAYER, b. 1858, Birchington Kent. > iv. JAMES SAYER, b. 1874, Birchington Kent; d. 10 Mar 1949, Birchington Kent. > > 4. JAMES2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Jan 1836 in Birchington Kent. He married EMMA MILLGATE 1859 in Blean Kent. She was born 1838 in Acol Kent. > Notes for JAMES SAYER: > 1851, Aged 15 > 1871 Census, Waggoner of the Street, St Nicholas Thanet Kent > 1881 Census, The Street, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. Farm Waggoner > 1891 Census, Agr Labourer of The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > More About JAMES SAYER: > Christening: 21 Feb 1836, All Saints, Birchington Kent > > Children of JAMES SAYER and EMMA MILLGATE are: > i. HENRY3 SAYER, b. 1860, Chislet Kent. > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > 1871 Census, Employed on farm aged 11 > ii. ELEANOR SAYER, b. 1862, Chislet Kent. > iii. JAMES SAYER, b. 1865, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > iv. EMMA SAYER, b. 1867, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > 5. v. LOUISA MARY SAYER, b. 1870, St Nicholas Thanet Kent. > vi. JOHN SAYER, b. 1872, St Nicholas at Wade, Thanet Kent. > vii. GEORGE SAYER, b. 1875, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > viii. WILLIAM ALAN SAYER, b. 1877, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > Notes for WILLIAM ALAN SAYER: > 1891 Census, Agr Labourer aged 14 > ix. ELIZABETH MARY SAYER, b. 1880, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > x. ARTHUR E SAYER, b. 1884, St Nicholas Thanet Kent. > Notes for ARTHUR E SAYER: > 1901 Census, Staying with hs sister Louisa and brother in law Thomas Ireland at The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent Groom Domestic. > > Generation No. 3 > > 5. LOUISA MARY3 SAYER (JAMES2, HENRY1) was born 1870 in St Nicholas Thanet Kent. She married THOMAS RAINER IRELAND Dec 1892 in Blean Kent, son of JOHN IRELAND and HARRIETT MARTIN. He was born Dec 1867 in Chislet Kent. > Notes for LOUISA MARY SAYER: > 1891 Census, staying with her Uncle William Sayer a Cow Keeper at Edgar House Minster. Louisa is a Housekeeper to her widowed Uncle, possibly till the time of her marriage in 1892. Next door to William Sayer is John and Emma Foad. > 1901 Census, aged 31, The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > Arthur E Sayer Brother of Louisa, staying on Census night, aged 17, Groom. > Notes for THOMAS RAINER IRELAND: Blean Vol 2a Page 1210 > 1881 Census, aged 13 and working as a Farm servant. > 1901 Census, aged 33 Waggoner on Farm, The Street, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 819; Folio: 57; Page: 8. > 1936 Kelly's Directory 2 Wellington Cottages, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > Marriage Notes for LOUISA SAYER and THOMAS IRELAND: Thanet Vol 2a Page 1797 > > Child of LOUISA SAYER and THOMAS IRELAND is: > i. EDWIN C4 IRELAND, b. 1894, St Nicholas at Wade Kent. > Notes for EDWIN C IRELAND: > 1901 Census, aged 7 The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent with parents > > > > "A.D.Reynolds" wrote: > Thanks to all for helpful postings. > > Susannah, > > I have Louisa Sayer born to Stephen Sayer and Eliza nee Godden at Birchington 17 Feb 1858. Parents married Birchington Parish Church 21 May 1853, his father was a Henry Sayer ?yours. > > Louisa married Frederick James Cox at All Saints' Birchington 20 October 1878. She was then a spinster which agrees with no husband at my grandmother's birth in August. > > I got my certificates from Thanet Registration so not sure of GRO ref. 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Hi Susannah, That looks good. Interestingly Louisa Sayer's daughter Eliza Sarah, (my grandmother), married Frank William MIRAMS in 1903 but not the same line as yours. He was the son of William Holloway Mirams and Emily HEWETT of Birchington; Wm.Holloway's parents were Edward Mirams b.abt 1802 and Mary Ann SAUNDERS (born Jersey, C.I. abt 1807) but I haven't got any further back reliably except to say that my late Aunt found the marriage of a Mary HOLAWAY in a Parish Register which she obviously thought significant. It was her notes in her personal effects which got me started on all this! Hope the collywobbles have settled. Regards, Tony ----- Original Message ----- From: "ENSEMBLE SUZANNAH-FOAD" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 24, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [ISLE-OF-THANET] re Minster Workhouse > Hello Tony, > > Sorry for the delay in replying, we have a household sick to the stomach with flu at present. I have added what I have so far, I will work on this line a bit more as soon as 100% again. Looks like a match to me > Kindest Regards > Suzannah > > > > > > > Descendants of Henry Sayer > > > Generation No. 1 > > 1. HENRY1 SAYER was born 1796 in St Lawrence Thanet Kent, and died 16 Sep 1882 in Birchington Kent. He married SARAH MIRIAMS 25 Aug 1822 in All Saints Birchington Kent, daughter of JOHN MIRIAMS and SARAH SPRATT. She was born 1803 in Monkton Thanet Kent, and died 12 Dec 1878 in Birchington Kent. > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > Memorial Inscription on his Headstone in Birchington Churchyard Henry Sayer died 16th September 1882, aged 86, having for 64 years been in service of one family in this parish.(Source Sheila Foreman) Died of Heart Disease. Dropsy > 1851 Census, Agr Labourer aged 50, of The Street Birchington Kent > 1881 Census, aged 85, Agr Labourer of Mill Row Birchington Kent > Notes for SARAH MIRIAMS: > Died of Natural Decay at 8 Mill Row Birchington Kent (Source Sheila Foreman) > 1851 Census, aged 48 > More About SARAH MIRIAMS: > Christening: 25 Sep 1803, Monkton Thanet Kent > Marriage Notes for HENRY SAYER and SARAH MIRIAMS: Witnessed by Richard Busbridge and Elizabeth Adams > > Children of HENRY SAYER and SARAH MIRIAMS are: > i. MARY2 SAYER, b. 1822, Birchington Kent; m. JOHN STEVENS, 06 Jun 1843, Birchington Kent; b. 1815, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet. > More About MARY SAYER: > Christening: 22 Dec 1822, All Saints Birchington Kent > Notes for JOHN STEVENS: > Son of William Stevens and Sarah Castle > 1842, Time of marriage, Labourer of St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > Marriage Notes for MARY SAYER and JOHN STEVENS: > All Saints > Witnessed by Richard Busbridge and Martha Stevens > 2. ii. HENRY SAYER, b. Feb 1825, Birchington Kent. > iii. SARAH SAYER, b. Apr 1827, Birchington Kent; d. 1827, Birchington Kent. > Notes for SARAH SAYER: > All Saints > More About SARAH SAYER: > Christening: 13 May 1827, Birchington Kent > 3. iv. STEPHEN SAYER, b. Jan 1829, Birchington Kent. > v. WILLIAM SAYER, b. Mar 1831, Birchington Kent. > More About WILLIAM SAYER: > Census UK 1861: 17 Apr 1831, Birchington Kent > vi. EDWARD SAYER, b. 1832, Birchington Kent; d. 21 May 1895, Birchington Kent; m. EMMA SAVIN, 24 Sep 1859, Birchington Kent; b. 02 Oct 1841, Birchington Kent; d. 26 Dec 1936, Margate Kent. > Notes for EDWARD SAYER: > 1861 Census, Agr Labourer, Cottage, Canterbury Road, Birchington Kent > More About EDWARD SAYER: > Census UK 1861: Apr 1861, Birchington Kent > Notes for EMMA SAVIN: > Thanet Q Dec 1841 Vol 5 Page 7 > Died 111 All Saints Avenue (Source Sheila Foreman) > More About EMMA SAVIN: > Christening: 12 Dec 1841, Birchington Kent > Marriage Notes for EDWARD SAYER and EMMA SAVIN: > Salem Baptist Chapel > vii. JOHN SAYER, b. Feb 1834, Birchington Kent; m. JOSEPHINE UNKNOWN, 1855, St Peter's Thanet Kent; b. 1836, Margate Kent. > Notes for JOHN SAYER: > Nieces Sarah aged 15 and Emma Sayer aged 14 staying with John and > Josephine on the 1881 Census. > 1861 Census, Agr labourer of Garlinge Thanet Kent > 1881 Census, Fly Proprietor and Lodging House Keeper of Buenos Ayres > Margate Kent. Aged 47 > More About JOHN SAYER: > Census UK 1861: Apr 1861, Garlinge Thanet Kent > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > Christening: 16 Mar 1834, All Saints Birchington Kent > 4. viii. JAMES SAYER, b. Jan 1836, Birchington Kent. > ix. ELIZABETH SAYER, b. Jul 1838, Birchington Kent. > Notes for ELIZABETH SAYER: > 1851 Census, aged 12 > More About ELIZABETH SAYER: > Christening: 05 Aug 1838, All Saints Birchington Kent > x. THOMAS SAYER, b. 10 May 1841, Birchington Kent; d. 19 Feb 1904, Birchington Kent; m. CHARLOTTE HOLTUM. > Notes for THOMAS SAYER: > 1851 Census,a ged 9 > xi. GEORGE SAYER, b. 1845, Birchington Kent. > Notes for GEORGE SAYER: > 1851 Census, aged 7 > xii. WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER, b. Sep 1845, Birchington Kent; m. JANE COZENS, 1866, St John's Margate Kent; b. 1845, Margate Kent. > Notes for WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER: > 1851 Census, aged 5 > More About WILLIAM HOLLIN SAYER: > Christening: 19 Oct 1845, All Saints Birchington Kent > xiii. SAMUEL SAYER, b. Oct 1850, Birchington Kent; d. 1851, Birchington Kent. > Notes for SAMUEL SAYER: > 1851 Census, aged 6 months > 1881, Aged 30 Unmarried and living with father Henry at Mill Row > Birchington Kent > More About SAMUEL SAYER: > Christening: 10 Nov 1850, All Saints Birchington Kent > xiv. SAMUEL SAYER, b. Jul 1851, Birchington Kent. > Notes for SAMUEL SAYER: > Occupation: Bricklayers Labourer > More About SAMUEL SAYER: > Christening: 10 Aug 1851, All Saints Birchington Kent > xv. ROSE SAYER, b. 1866, Birchington Kent. > > Generation No. 2 > > 2. HENRY2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Feb 1825 in Birchington Kent. He married EMMA ANN UNKNOWN 1848 in St John's Margate Kent. She was born 1829 in Staple Kent, and died Mar 1908 in St Peter's Thanet Kent. > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > Boarder on the 1861 Census, William Hawleyer aged 1 month born Margate > Grand daughter Florence S Pointer staying with the family on the 1881 Census. > Also 6 Boarders > Henry S Stace aged 25 Carpenter born Kennington Surrey > Charles T Powell aged 25, Clerk born Bishopsgate London > Thomas Haismer aged 43 Bricklayer born Faversham Kent > Thomas Haismer aged 16 Bricklayers Labourer born Faversham > Austin J Long aged 21, Bricklayers Labourer born Boughton Kent > 1851 Census, aged 26 Unmarried > 1861 Census, Bricklayer of Garlinge Thanet Kent > More About HENRY SAYER: > Christening: 20 Mar 1825, All Saints Birchington Kent > > Children of HENRY SAYER and EMMA UNKNOWN are: > i. MARY A3 SAYER, b. Jun 1849, Birchington Kent. > Notes for MARY A SAYER: > Thanet Vol 5 Page 511 > ii. EMMA ANN SAYER, b. Dec 1852, Margate Kent; d. 10 Feb 1897, Margate Kent; m. HENRY CHARLES S POINTER, Dec 1873, Margate Thanet Kent; b. 1852, Thanet Kent. > Notes for EMMA ANN SAYER: > Thanet Vol 2a Page 563 > 1881 Census, aged 28, living with her husband Henry at 2 Chester Road > Margate Kent > Children, > Eliza A Pointer aged 8 > Rebecca E Pointer aged 3 > Emma aged 10 Months born Westgate > More About HENRY CHARLES S POINTER: > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > Marriage Notes for EMMA SAYER and HENRY POINTER: > Thanet Vol 2a Page 1004 > iii. REBECCA SAYER, b. 1856, Margate Kent; m. RICHARD TUMBER, Dec 1878, St Peter's Thanet Kent; b. 1855, Ash Kent. > Notes for REBECCA SAYER: > 1881 Census, aged 25 living at 8 Chester Road with husband Richard > Tumber. (Sister Emma lives 6 doors away at 2 Chester Road.) > Children > Richard Tumber aged 1 Westgate > Alice aged 7 Months Westgate > More About RICHARD TUMBER: > Census UK 1881: Apr 1881, Margate Kent > Marriage Notes for REBECCA SAYER and RICHARD TUMBER: > Thanet Vol 2a Page 1536 > iv. WILLIAM SAYER, b. Dec 1866, Garlinge Kent; d. Jun 1898, St Peter's Thanet Kent. > Notes for WILLIAM SAYER: > Thanet Vol 2a Page 770 > Thanet Vol 2a Page 512 > Aged 32 > 1881 Census, aged 16, Bricklayer > v. ELLEN SAYER, b. 1870, Garlinge Kent. > > 3. STEPHEN2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Jan 1829 in Birchington Kent. He married ELIZA GODDEN 21 May 1853 in All Saints Birchington Kent. She was born 1833 in Kent, and died Bef. 1881 in St Peter's Thanet Kent. > More About STEPHEN SAYER: > Christening: 11 Jan 1829, All Saints, Birchington Kent > Notes for ELIZA GODDEN: > Daughter of William Godden > Marriage Notes for STEPHEN SAYER and ELIZA GODDEN: Witnessed by Edward and Elizabeth Sayer. > > Children of STEPHEN SAYER and ELIZA GODDEN are: > i. JAMES3 SAYER, b. 1853, Birchington Kent. > More About JAMES SAYER: > Christening: 18 Sep 1853, All Saints Birchington Kent > ii. CHARLES WILLIAM SAYER, b. 1856, Birchington Kent. > iii. LOUISA SAYER, b. 1858, Birchington Kent. > iv. JAMES SAYER, b. 1874, Birchington Kent; d. 10 Mar 1949, Birchington Kent. > > 4. JAMES2 SAYER (HENRY1) was born Jan 1836 in Birchington Kent. He married EMMA MILLGATE 1859 in Blean Kent. She was born 1838 in Acol Kent. > Notes for JAMES SAYER: > 1851, Aged 15 > 1871 Census, Waggoner of the Street, St Nicholas Thanet Kent > 1881 Census, The Street, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. Farm Waggoner > 1891 Census, Agr Labourer of The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > More About JAMES SAYER: > Christening: 21 Feb 1836, All Saints, Birchington Kent > > Children of JAMES SAYER and EMMA MILLGATE are: > i. HENRY3 SAYER, b. 1860, Chislet Kent. > Notes for HENRY SAYER: > 1871 Census, Employed on farm aged 11 > ii. ELEANOR SAYER, b. 1862, Chislet Kent. > iii. JAMES SAYER, b. 1865, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > iv. EMMA SAYER, b. 1867, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > 5. v. LOUISA MARY SAYER, b. 1870, St Nicholas Thanet Kent. > vi. JOHN SAYER, b. 1872, St Nicholas at Wade, Thanet Kent. > vii. GEORGE SAYER, b. 1875, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > viii. WILLIAM ALAN SAYER, b. 1877, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > Notes for WILLIAM ALAN SAYER: > 1891 Census, Agr Labourer aged 14 > ix. ELIZABETH MARY SAYER, b. 1880, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent. > x. ARTHUR E SAYER, b. 1884, St Nicholas Thanet Kent. > Notes for ARTHUR E SAYER: > 1901 Census, Staying with hs sister Louisa and brother in law Thomas Ireland at The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent Groom Domestic. > > Generation No. 3 > > 5. LOUISA MARY3 SAYER (JAMES2, HENRY1) was born 1870 in St Nicholas Thanet Kent. She married THOMAS RAINER IRELAND Dec 1892 in Blean Kent, son of JOHN IRELAND and HARRIETT MARTIN. He was born Dec 1867 in Chislet Kent. > Notes for LOUISA MARY SAYER: > 1891 Census, staying with her Uncle William Sayer a Cow Keeper at Edgar House Minster. Louisa is a Housekeeper to her widowed Uncle, possibly till the time of her marriage in 1892. Next door to William Sayer is John and Emma Foad. > 1901 Census, aged 31, The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > Arthur E Sayer Brother of Louisa, staying on Census night, aged 17, Groom. > Notes for THOMAS RAINER IRELAND: Blean Vol 2a Page 1210 > 1881 Census, aged 13 and working as a Farm servant. > 1901 Census, aged 33 Waggoner on Farm, The Street, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > Source Citation: Class: RG13; Piece: 819; Folio: 57; Page: 8. > 1936 Kelly's Directory 2 Wellington Cottages, St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent > Marriage Notes for LOUISA SAYER and THOMAS IRELAND: Thanet Vol 2a Page 1797 > > Child of LOUISA SAYER and THOMAS IRELAND is: > i. EDWIN C4 IRELAND, b. 1894, St Nicholas at Wade Kent. > Notes for EDWIN C IRELAND: > 1901 Census, aged 7 The Street St Nicholas at Wade Thanet Kent with parents > > > > "A.D.Reynolds" <adr@westlodge37.freeserve.co.uk> wrote: > Thanks to all for helpful postings. > > Susannah, > > I have Louisa Sayer born to Stephen Sayer and Eliza nee Godden at Birchington 17 Feb 1858. Parents married Birchington Parish Church 21 May 1853, his father was a Henry Sayer ?yours. > > Louisa married Frederick James Cox at All Saints' Birchington 20 October 1878. She was then a spinster which agrees with no husband at my grandmother's birth in August. > > I got my certificates from Thanet Registration so not sure of GRO ref. I can only see one Louisa on the Index. > > Tony > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

I've yet to meet anyone who wants to tie in with my Collyer's, however remotely !!! I think we must be unclean or summat !!! :o) Thanks for Mary's maiden name though - I didn't have that !! Hope you're getting over the flu bug. Keep taking the tablets !! :o) Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent Hello Pat, Ann 1816 was daughter of John Miriams and Mary Twyman who married 12 Oct 1799 in Minster. Cant tie them in with mine...yet! Suzannah x I see a Sarah Miriams amongst this lot & I'd like to add an Ann Miriams to the mixture in case anyone is looking for her. Ann, daughter of John & Mary Miriams, born 1816 in Ramsgate. Married Charles Fielding Frisby WILLMOTH on 11 March 1838 at St. Laurence. (Charles was the brother of my ggg gran Sarah Bonsey Willmoth, who married James Collyer). Charles & Ann had 8 children: Charles Fielding, Sarah Ann, William Ayles, James Collyer, Richard Frisby, Mary Elizabeth, Caroline Alice & Edward Thomas. Charles died in January 1882 & Ann died in August 1875, both in Ramsgate. Anyone want to share them with me ?!! Pat.xxx :o)) A Maid of Kent ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message