Yes Barbara I would love to have a photo of the plaque and I want to thank my fellow listers who have helped me resolve the question of Thomas Wales. ~Elaine In a message dated 4/18/2009 4:14:44 P.M. Pacific Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: At the Ramsgate Maritime Museum in February 2008 was the following useful notice. "On Overhead Beam Nameboard commemorating the Broadstairs boatmen who rescued the crew of the American ship Northern Belle wrecked at Kingsgate in January 1857. Made from a fragment of the ship's timbers, this was for many years displayed in the Rose Public House in Broadstairs. Repeated repainting has resulted in the misinterpretation of some of the names shown. Donated by Mr RA Anselmi on behalf of his late brother Mr Michael Anselmi Acc No 1274. Brass Plaque presented by the builders of the Broadstairs lifeboat later named Mary White. It is engraved THIS LIFEBOAT IS PRESENTED TO the TOWN of BROADSTAIRS, by THOs WHITE & HIS SONS THOMAS WHITE, JOSEPH, JOHN & ROBERT As a family remembrance of their native place, And respect for the memory of their Progenitor. JOHN WHITE, SHIP BUILDER July 1850. TO THE CREW, Put your trust in God and DO YOUR BEST, Remembring that he who is instrumental in saving a fellow creature >From a premature grave, restores him to his FAMILY, his FRIENDS, & SOCIETY. Donated by Mr RA Anselmi on behalf of his late brother Mr Michael Anselmi Acc No 1275" The plaque was attached to the lifeboat at the time it was given to Broadstairs. Please let me know if you would like photos of the notice, plaque and the display at the Museum. I was appalled to hear about the Museum funding cuts. Museums protect & give access to objects that help us understand the past in a way that is just not possible with archive type paper records. Suzannah's comments about the importance of local history to family historians were spot on. regards Barbara Callcott Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message **************Check all of your email inboxes from anywhere on the web. Try the new Email Toolbar now! (http://toolbar.aol.com/mail/download.html?ncid=txtlnkusdown00000027)

I transcribed the following today from J.G. Wilson's diary. Again it may pique the interest of our N.Z. members. Terence (I am following Wilson's punctuation, except where impossible). 1 Aug. - It is rather hazy this morning but the sea quite calm. After breakfast we had a little musical entertainment, and to add to this no less than 5 stowaways made their appearance, one of whom the sailors recognized as having stowed away in the same vessel on her voyage home. I was standing beside the Chief Officer when he ordered this young fellow to be brought to him. The stowaway then walked up as bold as brass only to be addressed as follows:- “Go up on the forecastle, you scoundrel and pace the deck. Don’t let me see you look or speak to anyone. If you disobey my orders I shall have to put you in irons and fed on bread and water.” This seemed to have no effect on so hardened a wretch, of which he looked the very picture. It seems he is the son of a very respectable tailor in Christchurch, N.Z. His father provided him with money to come to London to see his brother, but as he wished to have more to spend, he stowed away in the stokehole of the “Aorangi” and having spent all his money in London, passage money and all, left himself no other alternative than to stow away again to return home. The others were set to work, but the whole lot will be imprisoned at the Cape. Mid-day - Lat. 41-27 N. Long. 112-3 W. Distance 315 knotts. We have a splendid race horse on board named “Sword Dance.” It has been purchased from its English owners by Major Walmsley of Auckland, N.Z. at a price of 600 pounds. The figures themselves will give you an idea of the beauty and perfectness of the animal.

Elaine, Photos sent separately. Sorry that they are a bit blurry so the nameboard itself is hard to read. Hopefully someone else on list might have a nice sharp photo of the nameboard, even though the names are misinterpreted due to overpainting. Barbara ________________________________ From: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Northern Belle Ship 1857 Date: Sat, 18 Apr 2009 19:30:56 EDT Yes Barbara I would love to have a photo of the plaque and I want to thank my fellow listers who have helped me resolve the question of Thomas Wales. ~Elaine Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now.

I think that there is probably someone that might be interested in the person that sailed on the under-mentioned vessel. Perhaps some of our NZ members may be able to cast some light on what follows. What I have written below is self-explanatory. I have much to do to finish the diary - i.e. to transcribe it. Terence Terence Miller – Dec. 3, 2008 My mother ‘Phoebe Miller’ sent me a diary more than thirty years ago with a note to say –“This is the diary I told you about.” Phoebe was a ‘home-help’ during the nineteen fifties in the city of Portsmouth, my birthplace, and I believe one of her charges gave her this diary. The person who gave it to my mother had to have been quite old to have been receiving ‘homehelp.’ The diary is a small notebook about 5/8ths of an inch thick. I have transcribed the most beautiful writing from the first two pages. I intend to transcribe the rest in the coming weeks and will, no doubt, come across more names and places. It is signed at the end by “your affectionate nephew J.G.Wilson," (the person who sailed on this voyage of the "Aorangi"). The RMSS Aorongi is not to be confused with a later and larger vessel the RMS Aorongi. I sensed this from ‘googling’ the name. Here begins the transcript. RMSS “Aorangi” is a clipper built vessel by Messrs. John Elder & Co. of Glasgow. Tis now 4 years old. She is 387 ft long and a registered tonnage of 4,163 tons and engines 9compound surface condensing) of 3600 EAP. Her crew numbers 93 hands all told. It was in this vessel at 4:15 pm on the 28th July 1887 that I sailed from Tilbury, London – bound for Wellington, New Zealand, at which place I was to tranship to a coastal steamer running round to Hokitika (?), a port on the West coast of the South Island of N.Z. 28th July 1887 – Thursday The weather on the day of our departure was exceptionally fine & the sea calm. so much so, that we could hardly perceive the movement of the vessel when she started. As we neared the Goodwin Sands, we passed the wreck of a vessel, nothing but a masthead being visible above the water. About the same time several steamers about the same build as the ‘Aorangi’ crossed our course on their way to the Thames. As night drew near we came in close proximity with the South Foreland and two splendid little barques with full sail set, which gives a very charming impression of a “life on the ocean wave and a home on the rolling deep” everything looking so very smart and trim. At 9.45 pm, I climbed up the fore castle ladder and sighted Calais. The moon at this time was shining brightly and the ship beginning to rock a little

At the Ramsgate Maritime Museum in February 2008 was the following useful notice. "On Overhead Beam Nameboard commemorating the Broadstairs boatmen who rescued the crew of the American ship Northern Belle wrecked at Kingsgate in January 1857. Made from a fragment of the ship's timbers, this was for many years displayed in the Rose Public House in Broadstairs. Repeated repainting has resulted in the misinterpretation of some of the names shown. Donated by Mr RA Anselmi on behalf of his late brother Mr Michael Anselmi Acc No 1274. Brass Plaque presented by the builders of the Broadstairs lifeboat later named Mary White. It is engraved THIS LIFEBOAT IS PRESENTED TO the TOWN of BROADSTAIRS, by THOs WHITE & HIS SONS THOMAS WHITE, JOSEPH, JOHN & ROBERT As a family remembrance of their native place, And respect for the memory of their Progenitor. JOHN WHITE, SHIP BUILDER July 1850. TO THE CREW, Put your trust in God and DO YOUR BEST, Remembring that he who is instrumental in saving a fellow creature From a premature grave, restores him to his FAMILY, his FRIENDS, & SOCIETY. Donated by Mr RA Anselmi on behalf of his late brother Mr Michael Anselmi Acc No 1275" The plaque was attached to the lifeboat at the time it was given to Broadstairs. Please let me know if you would like photos of the notice, plaque and the display at the Museum. I was appalled to hear about the Museum funding cuts. Museums protect & give access to objects that help us understand the past in a way that is just not possible with archive type paper records. Suzannah's comments about the importance of local history to family historians were spot on. regards Barbara Callcott Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now.

Would you put the list up generally. Just wondering if any of my Dike/Dyke are there. I know John Benjamin went down with the Surfboat disaster in Margate; there might have been some other mariners. Many thanks Andrea On Fri, Apr 17, 2009 at 4:35 PM, <[email protected]> wrote: > > Dear Elaine, > I am interested in this rescue through Miller ancestors, and I am sending > separately just to you the lists I have of the crews of the Mary White, > and > Culmer White. The latter made two trips, and William Wales (HMS) appears > on both, but there is no mention of Thomas Wales. Maddie > > > > In a message dated 17/04/2009 05:35:00 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] > writes: > > Hello List, > I am doing some research on my Wales family in particular Thomas Wales > (Mariner) b.1830 Broadstairs d. 1907. In some of my paperwork I had that > he > helped in the rescue effort of the Northern Belle which went down January > 1857. In the list of those heroic rescuers I saw his brother William, but > Thomas is not listed. Did I make an error or was he forgotten and just > not > recognised. All help gratefully received. > ~Elaine > **************Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in > your area. Start now! > ( > http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=htt > p://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl > atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html<http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl%0Aatforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html> > ) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Elaine It was just William Regards Suzannah ________________________________ From: "[email protected]" <[email protected]> To: [email protected]; [email protected] Sent: Friday, 17 April, 2009 4:35:57 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Northern Belle Ship 1857 Dear Elaine, I am interested in this rescue through Miller ancestors, and I  am sending separately just to you the lists I have of the crews of the Mary  White, and Culmer White.  The latter made two trips, and William Wales  (HMS) appears on both, but there is no mention of Thomas Wales.  Maddie In a message dated 17/04/2009 05:35:00 GMT Standard Time, [email protected]  writes: Hello  List, I am doing some research on my Wales family in particular Thomas  Wales  (Mariner) b.1830 Broadstairs d. 1907. In some of my paperwork  I had that he  helped in the rescue effort of the Northern Belle  which went down January 1857.  In the list of those heroic rescuers I  saw his brother William, but Thomas is  not listed. Did I make an  error or was he forgotten and just not recognised. All  help  gratefully received. ~Elaine **************Join ChristianMingle.com®  FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now!  (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=htt p://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html) ------------------------------- To  unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to  [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the  quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Jill   the name of the Shipwrights was Claxtons - they were two brothers who ran it, part of a shipwright family who came from Devon - during WW2 they were under Admiralty Orders and did many varied work on many vessels - they overhauled some of the Little Ships which went over to Dunkirk, France to rescue the  Troops and many were brought back to Ramsgate and Margate   I have a view of the building on the centre wall of the Harbour with Claxtons painted on its roof and quiet a few prints of the Tugs they ran in conjunctions with the famous Thames Tug Masters W Watkins and Co (one of which is the ST Cervia) now laid up in Ramsgate Harbour   I do know a fair bit about this firm and I have an old friend who worked there and trained many of their apprentices in the late 1930's up until the firm closed down, he is well into his nineties now - The firm closed its doors in the late 1960's early 1970's.   Hope this is of interest   If you will like to chat about this feel free to ring me on 01843 230589 evenings   regards  Tim Keenan - Margate - Kent - UK --- On Fri, 17/4/09, [email protected] <[email protected]> wrote: From: [email protected] <[email protected]> Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Caxtons at Ramsgate Harbour To: [email protected] Date: Friday, 17 April, 2009, 11:50 AM I believe that my grandfather, Albert Hector GOODBOURN served an apprenticeship as a Marine Engineer at Caxtons on the cross wall of Ramsgate Harbour in the 1920s.  Does any kind lister know if any records and / or photos might still exist, please? TIA Jill ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I believe that my grandfather, Albert Hector GOODBOURN served an apprenticeship as a Marine Engineer at Caxtons on the cross wall of Ramsgate Harbour in the 1920s. Does any kind lister know if any records and / or photos might still exist, please? TIA Jill

Dear Elaine, I am interested in this rescue through Miller ancestors, and I am sending separately just to you the lists I have of the crews of the Mary White, and Culmer White. The latter made two trips, and William Wales (HMS) appears on both, but there is no mention of Thomas Wales. Maddie In a message dated 17/04/2009 05:35:00 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Hello List, I am doing some research on my Wales family in particular Thomas Wales (Mariner) b.1830 Broadstairs d. 1907. In some of my paperwork I had that he helped in the rescue effort of the Northern Belle which went down January 1857. In the list of those heroic rescuers I saw his brother William, but Thomas is not listed. Did I make an error or was he forgotten and just not recognised. All help gratefully received. ~Elaine **************Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=htt p://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html) ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Here is another link from the Thanet Rootsweb Achive again from Suzannah in reply to an enquiry from Linda Wales in 2006 http://archiver.rootsweb.ancestry.com/th/read/Isle-of-Thanet/2006-03/1143219537 > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:34:15 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Northern Belle Ship 1857 > > Hello List, > I am doing some research on my Wales family in particular Thomas Wales > (Mariner) b.1830 Broadstairs d. 1907. In some of my paperwork I had that he > helped in the rescue effort of the Northern Belle which went down January > 1857. In the list of those heroic rescuers I saw his brother William, but > Thomas is not listed. Did I make an error or was he forgotten and just not > recognised. All help gratefully received. > ~Elaine > **************Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in > your area. Start now! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl > atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Beyond Hotmail — see what else you can do with Windows Live. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665375/direct/01/

Dont know if this will help but i fund this link on the net which is a reply to a thread Posted by Suzannah Foad about the Twyman Family it list several Wales Family Members from 1881 but no Thomas http://genforum.genealogy.com/twyman/messages/426.html Chris > From: [email protected] > Date: Fri, 17 Apr 2009 00:34:15 -0400 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Northern Belle Ship 1857 > > Hello List, > I am doing some research on my Wales family in particular Thomas Wales > (Mariner) b.1830 Broadstairs d. 1907. In some of my paperwork I had that he > helped in the rescue effort of the Northern Belle which went down January > 1857. In the list of those heroic rescuers I saw his brother William, but > Thomas is not listed. Did I make an error or was he forgotten and just not > recognised. All help gratefully received. > ~Elaine > **************Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in > your area. Start now! > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl > atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html) > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _________________________________________________________________ Share your photos with Windows Live Photos – Free. http://clk.atdmt.com/UKM/go/134665338/direct/01/

Hello List, I am doing some research on my Wales family in particular Thomas Wales (Mariner) b.1830 Broadstairs d. 1907. In some of my paperwork I had that he helped in the rescue effort of the Northern Belle which went down January 1857. In the list of those heroic rescuers I saw his brother William, but Thomas is not listed. Did I make an error or was he forgotten and just not recognised. All help gratefully received. ~Elaine **************Join ChristianMingle.com® FREE! Meet Christian Singles in your area. Start now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221246370x1201421635/aol?redir=http://www.christianmingle.com/campaign.html?cat=adbuy&src=pl atforma&adid=aolfooter&newurl=reg_path.html)

Barbara, This is some very clever work of yours and many thanks. I tend to go for Wootton for the 1748 baptism of Mary Curling as Kirby's other children were baptised there. Irrespective of this I still have to explain the interval of 1748 - 1753 with no apparent baptisms. I shall try to get to a local LDS Church to look at the original film for Batch I003786 ie 1866580. Best wishes, Clive ________________________________ From: Barbara Callcott <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 15 April, 2009 12:45:17 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] St Nicholas-at-Wade baptisms/IGI Batch I003786 Hi Clive, What a fascinating mixture! I hadn't realised that Batches had such a mixed structure. I downloaded a few of the records from the batch, then I imported them into PAF . I opened up a random individual record and then opened the VIEW ALL SOURCES button to get: "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R), Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, data as of April 15, 2009, Film #: 1866580, Batch #: I003786, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA" All of the records I looked at had the same film number ie 1866580. Then I put film number 1866580 into the Family History Library Catalog - Film number search & got http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&filmno=1866580 So the original data for this Batch can be seen on the film 1866580 which contains information from all the sources you were told about. By clicking on the links from there and then going to Film Notes for each source I think it possibly matches like this: Parish registers for Wootton, Kent 1546-1994(Items 1 - 5); Composite register, 1546-1811. Baptisms, 1794-1812. Marriages, 1754-1812; banns, 1754-1970. Marriages, 1814-1838 Parish registers for Waldershare, Kent 1561-1999 (Items 6 - 10);Baptisms and burials, 1810-1812. Baptisms, 1813-1913. Marriages and banns, 1755-1821. Marriages, 1813-1839. Composite registers, 1561-1808 (baptisms, marriages, burials). Parish chest records, St. Nicholas-at-Wade, Kent 1702-1934 (Items 11-14). Churchwardens accounts 1749-1934 Overseers rates 1835-1838 All the entries in the Batch are either Christening/Birth or Marriage (ie no Other nor Death/Burial) which means that a few christenings or marriages must have been noted in the St Nich at Wade parish chest records. I don't have much experience with parish chest records but the ones that I have looked at recorded things like burial expenses for paupers, amounts paid for pews, or donations to the roof, or poor rate collections. All of which means that your 1748 christening couldn't be from St Nich at Wade because the St Nich entries start a year later but doesn't eliminate Waldershare as a possibility. I still couldn't see a way to separate out the entries into their respective items, hopefully someone else can help with that. thanks for sharing the information about the mixture in the batch - I will now be much more interested in batches beginning with I Barbara Callcott ________________________________ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:48:00 +0000 (GMT) From: CLIVE BOYCE <[email protected]> Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] St Nicholas-at-Wade baptisms/IGI Batch I003786 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In searching for baptisms of children of Kirby Curling batch number I003786 comes up. This gives no indication of the parish(es)involved. I have recently been in touch with the Church of LDS and they have very helpfully told me that batch I003786 covers: Parish registers for Wootton, Kent 1546-1994(Items 1 - 5); Parish registers for Waldershare, Kent 1561-1999 (Items 6 - 10); Parish chest records (their terminology), St. Nicholas-at-Wade, Kent 1702-1934 (Items 11-14). I have yet to discover how to identify the items 1 - 14. Batch I003786 may be helpful to anyone looking for leads to baptisms at St Nicholas-at-Wade. Clive Boyce ------------------------------ Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Clive, What a fascinating mixture! I hadn't realised that Batches had such a mixed structure. I downloaded a few of the records from the batch, then I imported them into PAF . I opened up a random individual record and then opened the VIEW ALL SOURCES button to get: "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints, International Genealogical Index (R), Copyright (c) 1980, 2002, data as of April 15, 2009, Film #: 1866580, Batch #: I003786, Family History Library, 35 N West Temple Street, Salt Lake City, Utah 84150 USA" All of the records I looked at had the same film number ie 1866580. Then I put film number 1866580 into the Family History Library Catalog - Film number search & got http://www.familysearch.org/eng/library/fhlcatalog/supermainframeset.asp?display=filmhitlist&columns=*%2C0%2C0&filmno=1866580 So the original data for this Batch can be seen on the film 1866580 which contains information from all the sources you were told about. By clicking on the links from there and then going to Film Notes for each source I think it possibly matches like this: Parish registers for Wootton, Kent 1546-1994(Items 1 - 5); Composite register, 1546-1811. Baptisms, 1794-1812. Marriages, 1754-1812; banns, 1754-1970. Marriages, 1814-1838 Parish registers for Waldershare, Kent 1561-1999 (Items 6 - 10);Baptisms and burials, 1810-1812. Baptisms, 1813-1913. Marriages and banns, 1755-1821. Marriages, 1813-1839. Composite registers, 1561-1808 (baptisms, marriages, burials). Parish chest records, St. Nicholas-at-Wade, Kent 1702-1934 (Items 11-14). Churchwardens accounts 1749-1934 Overseers rates 1835-1838 All the entries in the Batch are either Christening/Birth or Marriage (ie no Other nor Death/Burial) which means that a few christenings or marriages must have been noted in the St Nich at Wade parish chest records. I don't have much experience with parish chest records but the ones that I have looked at recorded things like burial expenses for paupers, amounts paid for pews, or donations to the roof, or poor rate collections. All of which means that your 1748 christening couldn't be from St Nich at Wade because the St Nich entries start a year later but doesn't eliminate Waldershare as a possibility. I still couldn't see a way to separate out the entries into their respective items, hopefully someone else can help with that. thanks for sharing the information about the mixture in the batch - I will now be much more interested in batches beginning with I Barbara Callcott ________________________________ Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 20:48:00 +0000 (GMT) From: CLIVE BOYCE <[email protected]> Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] St Nicholas-at-Wade baptisms/IGI Batch I003786 To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 In searching for baptisms of children of Kirby Curling batch number I003786 comes up. This gives no indication of the parish(es)involved. I have recently been in touch with the Church of LDS and they have very helpfully told me that batch I003786 covers: Parish registers for Wootton, Kent 1546-1994(Items 1 - 5); Parish registers for Waldershare, Kent 1561-1999 (Items 6 - 10); Parish chest records (their terminology), St. Nicholas-at-Wade, Kent 1702-1934 (Items 11-14). I have yet to discover how to identify the items 1 - 14. Batch I003786 may be helpful to anyone looking for leads to baptisms at St Nicholas-at-Wade. Clive Boyce ------------------------------ Enjoy a better web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now.

In searching for baptisms of children of Kirby Curling batch number I003786 comes up. This gives no indication of the parish(es)involved. I have recently been in touch with the Church of LDS and they have very helpfully told me that batch I003786 covers: Parish registers for Wootton, Kent 1546-1994(Items 1 - 5); Parish registers for Waldershare, Kent 1561-1999 (Items 6 - 10); Parish chest records (their terminology), St. Nicholas-at-Wade, Kent 1702-1934 (Items 11-14). I have yet to discover how to identify the items 1 - 14. Batch I003786 may be helpful to anyone looking for leads to baptisms at St Nicholas-at-Wade. Clive Boyce

G'day Listers, I would just like to register another couple of direct ancestor names from Herne Bay.... CULLING and BRICE My ggg grandmother was Jane BRICE b 1797 Herne Bay to parents: Samuel BRICE c1764 Herne Bay and Ann CULLING c1776 Herne Bay I believe Ann's father may have been John. Kids for John Brice and Ann Culling were.... Samuel 1794 Jane 1797 who married my gg grandfather - John Tester on 14 Oct 1820 Herne Mary 1799 William 1804 who married Ann Morris on 13 Jul 1839 Herne (I have 8 kids for them) George 1807 James 1809 Anna 1811 Daniel 1816 I would love to hear from anyone connected to either family or if anyone else has more information on the Culling and Brice families. I hope everyone has had a lovely Easter. Ours has been very wet, windy but warm in Queensland, Australia Lesley [email protected]

>From The Times, Friday, May 26, 1939; pg. 11; Issue 48315; col A N.C.O. REMANDED Sergeant Leslie Ronald Thorne DUNN was charged at Margate Police Court yesterday with being a deserter from the Middlesex Battalion of the Royal Engineers and was remanded to await a military escort. Detective-constable NORRIS, of Margate Police, said that he saw DUNN walking on the main road towards Margate. He said his name was DAPMAN and produced a letter to prove it. He was taken to the police station and when further questioned agreed he was Sergeant DUNN. He said, " I will await an escort."

>From The Times, Thursday, Mar 29, 1888; pg.1; Issue 32346; col A MARRIAGE On 27th March, at New North-road Wesleyan Chapel, Islington, by the Rev. Daniel Heaton, Samuel Alder, son of Samuel ADAMS, of Queen's-road, Dalston, to Susannah Elizabeth DUNN, granddaughter of the late Thomas DUNN, Parade House, Margate.

The Thanet museums are getting publicity now, especially through the local newspapers which are giving topic double-page spreads., Hopefully it will engender some strong practical support. Maddie In a message dated 09/04/2009 14:41:43 GMT Standard Time, [email protected] writes: By sheer coincidence, the current issue of "Around Kent" carries an article advertising KCC's Archive and Local History Service. KCC are inviting the public's views on this service, and in particular public access to the records. A consultation document is available on their website: www.kent.gov.uk/leisure-and-culture/archives-and-local-history/news-from-the -archives or by calling 01622 694267, or e-mailing: [email protected] If any listers are inspired to make their views known, they need to make contact by April 30th. --- ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message