Hi back again: Do you know if there is any Homans around Ramsgate or maybe spelling of Holmans, were he removed the l, Oh he just never gave much info on relations. Jacquie ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Surnames: Homans and Holloway Hi There Welcome to the IOT list. You say Homans/Holloway. If I was looking for a baptism, which surname do you wish me to look for, did he go by both? I can find a John Holloway born at Margate 1821 Thanks Suzannah ----- Original Message ---- From: Jacqueline Duncan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 8 May, 2009 6:23:32 PM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Surnames: Homans and Holloway Hello: Looking for above surnames in Ramsgate. Homans/Holloway born about 1819/20, in Kent area. Have no info who his parents were etc. He came to Nova Scotia between 1845 -1847 when he purchased 100 acres of land in the small community of Clam Harbour, N.S. He went by first names of John "Charles". He died in 1899 and buried in Clam Harbour. Charles, the given name he picked to be called by. He married Janet Robson, they had 6 sons and 3 dau who died couple months after their birth, names of the girls were Elizabeth, Catherine and Clarissa & were buried on the property. The six boys were named John Bruce, James, William Charles, Ebenezer, Stephen Henry (my Granfather), Edwin Isaac. He arrived with money in his pocket, purchased the land, built Lobster and Clam factory plus General Store, the store survived until 1972. I have a couple of pictures which could be Homans/Holloway. I understand that others said he changed his name. I would appreciate any info, have been on this search for over 40 years. Thanks, Jacquie Homans Duncan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Just an alert to anyone who has ancestors involved in fishing, or merchant shipping in the Thanet area. FindmyPast now have crew lists 1863-1913 online to search ( subscription or Pay per View.) I have just spent a happy half hour tracing the career of my ancestor Edwin ( sometimes Edward! ) JORDAN on his various fishing smacks from apprenticeship to master. Anne

He went by Homans, was told that was the name he picked to use by Aunt Ethel before she died. Holloway was a name that one of the men in the community said he could be. What other info do you have on this Holloway? John Charles died on March 26/ 1899 in his 80th year. I tried DNA testing on the Homans name, using my nephew who was son of my brother Ross Evans Spencer Homans Have not matched any Homans markers, not even one, however I matched 23 out of 25 for surname Ross. My brother that I just mentioned was given Ross as his first name. I will now try Holloway and see if I get any markers. Thanks, Jacquie----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, May 08, 2009 1:53 PM Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Surnames: Homans and Holloway Hi There Welcome to the IOT list. You say Homans/Holloway. If I was looking for a baptism, which surname do you wish me to look for, did he go by both? I can find a John Holloway born at Margate 1821 Thanks Suzannah ----- Original Message ---- From: Jacqueline Duncan <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Friday, 8 May, 2009 6:23:32 PM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Surnames: Homans and Holloway Hello: Looking for above surnames in Ramsgate. Homans/Holloway born about 1819/20, in Kent area. Have no info who his parents were etc. He came to Nova Scotia between 1845 -1847 when he purchased 100 acres of land in the small community of Clam Harbour, N.S. He went by first names of John "Charles". He died in 1899 and buried in Clam Harbour. Charles, the given name he picked to be called by. He married Janet Robson, they had 6 sons and 3 dau who died couple months after their birth, names of the girls were Elizabeth, Catherine and Clarissa & were buried on the property. The six boys were named John Bruce, James, William Charles, Ebenezer, Stephen Henry (my Granfather), Edwin Isaac. He arrived with money in his pocket, purchased the land, built Lobster and Clam factory plus General Store, the store survived until 1972. I have a couple of pictures which could be Homans/Holloway. I understand that others said he changed his name. I would appreciate any info, have been on this search for over 40 years. Thanks, Jacquie Homans Duncan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello: Looking for above surnames in Ramsgate. Homans/Holloway born about 1819/20, in Kent area. Have no info who his parents were etc. He came to Nova Scotia between 1845 -1847 when he purchased 100 acres of land in the small community of Clam Harbour, N.S. He went by first names of John "Charles". He died in 1899 and buried in Clam Harbour. Charles, the given name he picked to be called by. He married Janet Robson, they had 6 sons and 3 dau who died couple months after their birth, names of the girls were Elizabeth, Catherine and Clarissa & were buried on the property. The six boys were named John Bruce, James, William Charles, Ebenezer, Stephen Henry (my Granfather), Edwin Isaac. He arrived with money in his pocket, purchased the land, built Lobster and Clam factory plus General Store, the store survived until 1972. I have a couple of pictures which could be Homans/Holloway. I understand that others said he changed his name. I would appreciate any info, have been on this search for over 40 years. Thanks, Jacquie Homans Duncan

Thank you Suzannah, This was one of mine and yes, it was George Norman. " Birchington, July 13th George?Norman, son of the late E NEAME, Birchington aged 32." Cheers, Lesley

I didn't even realise I had put a question mark in, ha ha. Shall put one over MY head! Glad to help Suzannah ________________________________ From: Lesley MM <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Wednesday, 29 April, 2009 10:58:11 AM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] BMD Thank you Suzannah, This was one of mine and yes, it was George Norman. " Birchington, July 13th George?Norman, son of the late E NEAME, Birchington aged 32." Cheers, Lesley ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Keble's Gazette 19th July 1873 Births Margate, July 13th at Ebor House, Union Crescent, the wife of the Rev H W BUTCHER of a daughter. Margate, July 11th at Eaton Road, the wife of Mr MARTEN, of a son Margate, July 17th at Shottendane the wife of Mr MORRIS, of a daughter. Westgate on Sea, July 17th, the wife of Robert LAWS Esq, of a daughter. Ramsgate, July 14th at 25 Sussex Street, the wife of Mr E PAGE, of a son. Marriages Margate, July 13th at St John's Church by the Rev JCW Valpy, Ethelbert AMES to Emma Maria WATSON, both of Margate. Margate, July 13th at St John's Church by the Rev JCW Valpy, Henry SPECKMAN to Fanny Maria POOLE both of Margate. Deal, July 8th at St George's Chapel, the Hon and Rev Adolphus H MASSEY MA, son of the late Right Hon Lord Clarina to Emma, daughter of J IGGULDEN Esq of Deal. Deaths Margate, July 12th at 24 Albert Terrace, Mrs Ann KITE aged 81 years. Margate July 17th, at 33 Zion Place, John Harold, infant son of Mt John CHEADLE aged 5months. Margate, July 15th at Boston House, Park Place, Victor Joseph, infant son of Mr S LEWIS aged 15 days Birchington, July 13th George Norman, son of the late E NEAME, Birchington aged 32. Ramsgate, July 13th, Elizabeth, the dearly beloved wife of Mr William MANSEL of Ramsgate. London, July 12th, Susannah Pilcher WALKER, daughter of the late Richard WALKER of Ramsgate aged 33 years. St Lawrence, July 10th, Jane HOLMANS aged 62 years. St Lawrence, July 10th, Stephen PAGE aged 70 years. St Peter's, July 13th at Stone House, John Robinson McCLEAN Esq aged 60 years. Maidstone, July 10th, John Courteney, son of the late Edwin STACEY Esq, aged 38 years.

Newspaper ERA Audience: General Publication Format: Newspaper Full-Text Coverage: Sep 30, 1838 - Dec 29, 1900 Seems to be a weekly newspaper published on Sundays. Mick

Does anyone have BATHO? Would appreciate help to identify the parents of siblings Sarah, William and Mary BATHO - probably born about 1640/50s? Here is what I know. William BATHO's will of 1678 says he is a "maulster" of the parish of St John ye Baptist, Thanet & names: 1. his sister Sarah PEAKE now wife of Daniel PEAKE to get 5 pounds & released from debt of 40 shillings she owes him 2. brother-in-law William COPPIN to get 4 pounds 10s which her [sic] now owes me 3. loving wife Sarah BATHO (sole executrix) to get all the rest Witnesses John READE, Thomas BAKER, Joseph MACKRITH Will proved 1680 by widow Sara BATHO. Vicar General's Marriage License of 20 Feb 1677 William BATHO of 'St. Margaret in the Isle of Thanet', Kent, (maltster), b., 27, and Sarah BARKER of the same, wid., 30, in St. Mary at Hill, London. ie gives him a date of birth about 1650. Mary BARTHOE & William COPPIN married 1672 at St Geo, Canterbury ie Mary is the sister unnamed in William's will. Sarah BATHO (in IGI as BANTHO) married Daniel PEAKE in St Lawrence 10 Sept 1668 (no licence found). IGI (Batch 8501031) has a Sarah BATHO daughter of John and Sarah christened at St Mary, Minster on Thanet in 05 OCT1646 also John BATHO son of John & Sara christened 11 June 1643. Presumably children of Johannes BATHO & Sarah COFFAM married Nov 29, 1640 at Minster (IGI Batch 8581032) IGI (Batch 8501031) has a William BATHO christened 18 SEP 1650 at Minster but with father Benjamin BATHO. Were there really two BATHO men John & Benjamin both having children at same time? or is the Benjamin a misrecord or mistranscribe? If anyone has access to Minster records, I'd appreciate an assessment of what register actually says please & are there any burials/marriages for BATHO ? There is also marriage of John BATHO & Mary WELBY at Birchington 04 MAR 1651(IGI M016491) which might fit in somewhere. cheers Barbara Callcott The new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7: Faster, Safer, Easier.

I was interested in this as she is my 2xgreat grandmother (although she was Ann without an 'e' I believe). I am wondering about 'The Era' - what type of publication was it? National/local? Daily/weekly/monthly? Etc? (Googling the name did not really help.) Penny -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 20 April 2009 23:28 To: [email protected] Cc: [email protected] Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Death of Anne MERCER ( 1867 ) >From The Era ( London, England ), Sunday, August 11, 1867; Issue 1507. DEATH On the 3rd inst. at Margate, Anne, the beloved wife of Alderman S. MERCER, in her 71st year. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Robyn, Thomas is my great great grandfather and I have got them going forward. It's just Harriet going back that I'm stuck on. Very kind and thoughtful of you to take the trouble to search though, very much appreciated. Regards, Dave. Dave Miller New Zealand too! (Howick) [email protected] From: rjjhtuckett Sent: Wed 22/04/2009 12:30 To: [email protected] Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] REYNOLDS, Margate Hi Dave Also found them in the 1841 Census at Northwood, St Lawrence, Kent Both Thomas Miller and Stephen Miller are farmers Thomas Miller 35 Harriott Miller 28 James Miller 5 Jane Miller 4 Ann Miller 2 Richard Miller 3 months Stephen Miller 80 Regards Robyn Robyn Tuckett New Zealand [email protected] ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Dave Also found them in the 1841 Census at Northwood, St Lawrence, Kent Both Thomas Miller and Stephen Miller are farmers Thomas Miller 35 Harriott Miller 28 James Miller 5 Jane Miller 4 Ann Miller 2 Richard Miller 3 months Stephen Miller 80 Regards Robyn Robyn Tuckett New Zealand [email protected]

Hello Dave Found the family in the 1851 census at Church Street, St Peters Thomas Miller 47 Born St Lawrence, Kent working as an Ag lab Harriet Miller 38 born Margate, Kent James Miller 15 Born St Lawrence, Kent Ann Miller 12 Born St Lawrence, Kent Richard Miller 10 Born St Lawrence, Kent Thomas Miller 8 Born St Lawrence, Kent Charles Miller 6 Born St Lawrence, Kent Eliza Miller 4 Born St Lawrence, Kent Frances Miller 1 Born Ramsgate, Kent Regards Robyn Robyn Tuckett New Zealand [email protected]

Hello Dave Found the family in the 1851 census at Church Street, St Peters Thomas Miller 47 Born St Lawrence, Kent working as an Ag lab Harriet Miller 38 born Margate, Kent James Miller 15 Born St Lawrence, Kent Ann Miller 12 Born St Lawrence, Kent Richard Miller 10 Born St Lawrence, Kent Thomas Miller 8 Born St Lawrence, Kent Charles Miller 6 Born St Lawrence, Kent Eliza Miller 4 Born St Lawrence, Kent Frances Miller 1 Born Ramsgate, Kent Regards Robyn Robyn Tuckett New Zealand [email protected]

Plains of Waterloo so called in 1818 from the Battle of Waterloo. This and the adjoining area were extensively used as military training camps in the Napoleonic era, prior to the buildings of houses. There is such a mixture of buildings, some date to the 1790's and even the 1960's Is there any property you are interested in? Suzannah ----- Original Message ---- From: ERNEST BLAKEMORE <[email protected]> To: [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 21 April, 2009 3:46:25 PM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Plains of Waterloo Ramsgate Hi List           Is there someone on the list that can tell me when Plains of Waterloo Ramsgate was built  I'm sure there is                        Thanks Ernie B       ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi List           Is there someone on the list that can tell me when Plains of Waterloo Ramsgate was built  I'm sure there is                        Thanks Ernie B

Hello all, I haven't had much luck with this one so thought I would ask here. Has anyone got any connection with, or know anything about, Harriet REYNOLDS, born in Margate around 1813 from the censuses. Possibly earlier as the ages varied quite a bit! She married Thomas MILLER on 1-11-1834 at St.Peter, Broadstairs, according to the IGI where she is transcribed as REY. Their third child was given the middle name of ROLFE. Not sure what that tells me, Harriet's mother's maiden name maybe? Just thought I would enquire here in case someone on the list knows something. Thanks for your time, regards, Dave (Miller)

>From The Era ( London, England ), Sunday, August 11, 1867; Issue 1507. DEATH On the 3rd inst. at Margate, Anne, the beloved wife of Alderman S. MERCER, in her 71st year.

Dear Barbara, May I have copies too please? Thank you, Dave Miller. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Barbara Callcott Sent: Sunday, April 19, 2009 11:14 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Northern Belle Ship 1857 At the Ramsgate Maritime Museum in February 2008 was the following useful notice. "On Overhead Beam Nameboard commemorating the Broadstairs boatmen who rescued the crew of the American ship Northern Belle wrecked at Kingsgate in January 1857. Made from a fragment of the ship's timbers, this was for many years displayed in the Rose Public House in Broadstairs. Repeated repainting has resulted in the misinterpretation of some of the names shown. Donated by Mr RA Anselmi on behalf of his late brother Mr Michael Anselmi Acc No 1274. Brass Plaque presented by the builders of the Broadstairs lifeboat later named Mary White. It is engraved THIS LIFEBOAT IS PRESENTED TO the TOWN of BROADSTAIRS, by THOs WHITE & HIS SONS THOMAS WHITE, JOSEPH, JOHN & ROBERT As a family remembrance of their native place, And respect for the memory of their Progenitor. JOHN WHITE, SHIP BUILDER July 1850. TO THE CREW, Put your trust in God and DO YOUR BEST, Remembring that he who is instrumental in saving a fellow creature >From a premature grave, restores him to his FAMILY, his FRIENDS, & SOCIETY. Donated by Mr RA Anselmi on behalf of his late brother Mr Michael Anselmi Acc No 1275" The plaque was attached to the lifeboat at the time it was given to Broadstairs. Please let me know if you would like photos of the notice, plaque and the display at the Museum. I was appalled to hear about the Museum funding cuts. Museums protect & give access to objects that help us understand the past in a way that is just not possible with archive type paper records. Suzannah's comments about the importance of local history to family historians were spot on. regards Barbara Callcott age ..................................................................................... This e-mail message has been scanned for Viruses and Content and cleared by MailMarshal .....................................................................................

Dave, photos sent direct. I am happy to send photos to anyone else who wants them. Barbara Callcott ________________________________ Date: Sun, 19 Apr 2009 14:56:52 +1200 From: "Dave Miller" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Northern Belle Ship 1857 To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Dear Barbara, May I have copies too please? Thank you, Dave Miller. -----Original Message----- Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Northern Belle Ship 1857 At the Ramsgate Maritime Museum in February 2008 was the following useful notice. "On Overhead Beam Nameboard commemorating the Broadstairs boatmen who rescued the crew of the American ship Northern Belle wrecked at Kingsgate in January 1857. Made from a fragment of the ship's timbers, this was for many years displayed in the Rose Public House in Broadstairs. Repeated repainting has resulted in the misinterpretation of some of the names shown. Donated by Mr RA Anselmi on behalf of his late brother Mr Michael Anselmi Acc No 1274. Brass Plaque presented by the builders of the Broadstairs lifeboat later named Mary White. It is engraved THIS LIFEBOAT IS PRESENTED TO the TOWN of BROADSTAIRS, by THOs WHITE & HIS SONS THOMAS WHITE, JOSEPH, JOHN & ROBERT As a family remembrance of their native place, And respect for the memory of their Progenitor. JOHN WHITE, SHIP BUILDER July 1850. TO THE CREW, Put your trust in God and DO YOUR BEST, Remembring that he who is instrumental in saving a fellow creature >From a premature grave, restores him to his FAMILY, his FRIENDS, & SOCIETY. Donated by Mr RA Anselmi on behalf of his late brother Mr Michael Anselmi Acc No 1275" The plaque was attached to the lifeboat at the time it was given to Broadstairs. Please let me know if you would like photos of the notice, plaque and the display at the Museum. I was appalled to hear about the Museum funding cuts. Museums protect & give access to objects that help us understand the past in a way that is just not possible with archive type paper records. Suzannah's comments about the importance of local history to family historians were spot on. regards Barbara Callcott Enjoy a safer web experience. Upgrade to the new Internet Explorer 8 optimised for Yahoo!7. Get it now.