Hi Suzannah, This one is one of mine !! and I would truly appreciate a photo of the gravestone whenever you can find the time. This Henrietta Hester Collard was John Wootton Rammell's first wife and to my knowledge they did not have any children. She was born 1828 Hoath the daughter of James Collard and Hester Lasey. After Henrietta's death John married Emily Thompson born 1858 Leigh Essex, the widow of Robert Neal Ealdon. The only known child of John W. Rammell and Emily Thompson was John Wootton Rammell 1890-1971, surgeon physician and it would be his initials at the end of the carved inscription. Many thanks for sending the transcription, Suzannah. Sincerely, Elizabeth Brooker, Etobicoke, Ont. Canada ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, October 13, 2009 12:42 PM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] RAMMELL Grave St Nicholas Churchyard, Thanet > IN memory of > Henrietta Hester, the beloved wife of John W RAMMELL > Of Shuart in this Parish > Who died at Southsea Hants > The 7th day of February 1877 > Aged 48 years > > In loving memory of my Mother > Emily RAMMELL > Who died on Jan 8th 1918 > JWR > > (Have Photos) > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

>From London Gazette, Tuesday, May 13, 1777; Issue 11770. The King has been pleased to grant upon Francis COBB and John BAKER, Gentlemen, the present Wardens of the Pier of Margate in the County of Kent, and within the Liberty of the Cinque Ports, and to their Successors, His Royal Licence and Authority to hold a Market in the said Town of Margate on Wednesday and Saturday in every week.

In memory of William COLEMAN Who died May 14th 1890 Aged 79 years Also Augusta COLEMAN Wife of the above Who died June 26th 1873 Aged 65 years Also of Elizabeth LLOYD Sister of the above Who died June 9th 1888 Aged 88 years (Have Photo)

Sacred to the memory of William SLADDEN Who died November 24th 1867 Aged 60 years Also of Frances, wife of the above Who died January 22nd 1879 Aged 74 years Also of Frances Jane daughter of the above and the affectionate wife of George BROCKMAN of Minnesota, USA Who died December 1863 Aged 31 Also Edward Son fo the above William and Frances SLADDEN Who died September 13th 1870 Aged 24 years (Have Photo)

Sacred to the memory of George ELDRIDGE Who died February 6th 1837 Aged 68 years Also of Elizabeth ELDRIDGE Wife of the Above Who died December 26th 1838 Aged 68 years Also of Ralph ELDRIDGE Their son Who died September ?? 1848 Aged 63 years (Have Photo)

In memory of William Marsh HARVEY Son of Vincent and Rebecca HARVEY Of Upstreet in the Parish of Chislet Who died May 15th 1854 In the 18th year of his age Also of Thomas HARVEY His grandfather Of this parish Who died July 14th 1844 Aged 65 years Also Mary HARVEY Wife of the above Who died April 9th 1856 Aged 53 years (Have Photo)

IN memory of Henrietta Hester, the beloved wife of John W RAMMELL Of Shuart in this Parish Who died at Southsea Hants The 7th day of February 1877 Aged 48 years In loving memory of my Mother Emily RAMMELL Who died on Jan 8th 1918 JWR (Have Photos)

Beneath are interred the remains of Louisa Second daughter of Charles COOPER of Canterbury and Margaret his wife, the daughter of the Late William WHITE of Hale Farm in this Parish She departed this life 6th March 1816 Also of Margaret Wife of the late George CLARIS Of Canterbury and eldest daughter of the above Charles and Margaret COOPER She died December 21st 1876 Aged 66 Years (Have Photo)

In loving memory of George YOUNG Who died 25th ? 1895 Aged 9 years Also of his sister Emma YOUNG Who died 11th December 1895 Aged 14 years (Have Photo)

In loving memory of John HANCOCK Of Sarre Died December 2nd 1893 Aged 46 years Also of Charles Measday Son of the above Died January 8th 1888 Aged 2month (Have Photo)

Sacred to the memory of William PETERS Of this Parish Who died June 1st 1857 Aged 88 years Also Elizabeth Widow of the above William PETERS Who died October 1st 1857 Aged 86 years (Have Photo)

>From Jackson's Oxford Journal, Saturday, April 15, 1899; Issue 7622. OXFORD CITY COURT, Friday. Before the Deputy-Mayor ( Alderman Gray ) A WELL-MERITED SENTENCE. Albert COULES, labourer, of 3, Church Fields, Margate, was charged on a warrant for bastardy arrears amounting to £7 16s. ( Seven Pounds Sixteen Shillings ). The prisoner offered to take charge of the child if the complainant would forego her claim for the arrears. The Deputy Mayor : A pretty fellow you are to have charge of a child. The complainant refused to assent to the prisoner's offer. The Deputy Mayor said the prisoner had treated the complainant in a diabolical manner, and he would be sentenced to the longest term of imprisonment which they had power to give, viz., three calendar months with hard labour.

In memory of William HADAWAY Of this parish Who departed this life May 7th 1886 Aged 63 years Also In loving memory of Mary wife of of the above named William HADAWAY Died November 24th 1906 Aged 73 years Asleep in Jesus (Have Photo)

Sacred to the memory of Francis HOLMES of the Ville of Sarre Who died on the 31st of May 1836 Aged 55 years Also of James BROWNING Son of the above Who died December 8th 1837 Aged 15 years Also of Sarah HOLMES Wife of the above named Francis HOLMES Who died on the 16th November 1843 Aged 65 years Also Francis Thomas Sharp HOLMES Son of the above Who died 16th October 1843 Aged 28 years Also Francis William HOLMES Son of the above F T S HOLMES Who died 4th June 1866 aged 23 years (Have Photo)

In loving remembrance of Thomas William PAY Late of the Crown Inn Sarre Who entered into rest August 7th 1890 In his 80th year Also in loving memory of Ann PAY Wife of the above Who passed away peacefully 11th October 1897 In her 79th year (Have Photo)

To the memory of William MASCALL of Newington Mills, St Lawrence Who died April 9th 1874 Aged 70 years Also of Hannah Jane Wife of the above Who died May 23rd 1881 Aged 80 years (Have Photo)

Olive Louisa NIGHTINGALE Died 5th March 1972 Aged 62 Rest in Peace Also of her sister Ethel FISHER (Fairbrass) (Have Photo)

Sacred to the memory of Esther H E GILES The beloved daughter of Henry and Ellen GILES Aged 9 years Also Esther GILES Who died 19th April 1892 Aged 76 years Also Alfred GILES Who died 2nd February 1898 Aged 38 years Also Henry GILES Who died 20th March 1898 Aged 80 years (Have Photo)

Hi, I am no relation but I made a quick call to the golf club to-day, they have a website with a contact on it, and the secretary said if you email them direct they will try to help you. Regards Joan. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Arlene Halme Sent: 13 October 2009 03:46 To: [email protected] Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] new to list looking for Ivy FALCONER married to Herbert KEENE Mar 1940 died 1975 Looking for assistance in tracing Ivy Mary Kirby FALCONER born Perth, Scotland 1912 , died in Thanet 1975. Married Herbert C KEENE 1940 Thanet. Have just ordered their marriage cert in hopes of determining which of 2 Herbert C KEENE's she married in 1940. Ivy was born to parents Margaret LEONARD born Panbride, Angus, Scotland and William FALCONER born Dundee, Angus, Scotland. They also had a son Alexander born in Edinburgh. William was a Lance Serjeant with the 2nd Royal Scots when he was killed in action in August 1914 in France. Margaret later married John HAY and had 2 more children. When Ivy was about 12 she went to live with Margaret's sister, Helen LEONARD in Margate (Glenthorne Private Hotel in Sea Road, Westgate), Kent. Helen had been in the employ of Lord and Lady Cayzer of Kilperinie, Angus, Scotland and somehow ended up running a guesthouse. She had the guesthouse until the Royal Navy appropriated it during WW2. The family tale was that Ivy married a much older man against the advice of Helen and Margaret and had a falling out with the family. When I started into genealogy in 1970 no one had heard of Ivy since the marriage. Each Leonard I found had the same response, that no one had heard from Ivy after her marriage. With the recent addition of the GRO indexes online and the assistance of some kind listers from the Angus Rootsweb list I have been able to determine Ivy's marriage in 1940. I have ordered the cert online in hopes of obtaining a bit more information such as address in Thanet and the age of Herbert. I found 2 Herbert C's one born in 1885 and the other born in 1909. If the tale has some truth then the 1885 Herbert is the husband but it could easily be the 1909 Herbert. Wondering if anyone on the list might have access to an obituary in mid 1975 for Ivy (Died A M J 1975 Dist Thanet Vol 16 Page 1901) as I understand an English death cert does not contain very much information. The younger Herbert C. died in May 1990 in Barnet, London (died A M J 1990 Vol 11, page 180, Reg 590) but could not find an appropriate death for the older Herbert C. I believe Ivy and Helen could have been members of the Westgate and Birchington Golf Club is it possible this Herbert C. Keene was also a member. I was able to obtain some information from British Phone books and it appears H.C. Keene lived at West Wing, Royal Esplanade Margate Thanet for the 1951, 1952, 1953, 1961 issues then the 1963, 64,70, 71,, 73, 73 and 75 show I. M. Keene at 4 Park Clo, Queen Elizabeth Ave, Cliftonville, Thanet. Might there be someone on the list familiar with these two people. OR where I might search next to confirm I have the right people. From a quick search of the birth indexes it does not appear this couple had children. Thank you for any assistance or leads in this mystery. Arlene Canada ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Looking for assistance in tracing Ivy Mary Kirby FALCONER born Perth, Scotland 1912 , died in Thanet 1975. Married Herbert C KEENE 1940 Thanet. Have just ordered their marriage cert in hopes of determining which of 2 Herbert C KEENE's she married in 1940. Ivy was born to parents Margaret LEONARD born Panbride, Angus, Scotland and William FALCONER born Dundee, Angus, Scotland. They also had a son Alexander born in Edinburgh. William was a Lance Serjeant with the 2nd Royal Scots when he was killed in action in August 1914 in France. Margaret later married John HAY and had 2 more children. When Ivy was about 12 she went to live with Margaret's sister, Helen LEONARD in Margate (Glenthorne Private Hotel in Sea Road, Westgate), Kent. Helen had been in the employ of Lord and Lady Cayzer of Kilperinie, Angus, Scotland and somehow ended up running a guesthouse. She had the guesthouse until the Royal Navy appropriated it during WW2. The family tale was that Ivy married a much older man against the advice of Helen and Margaret and had a falling out with the family. When I started into genealogy in 1970 no one had heard of Ivy since the marriage. Each Leonard I found had the same response, that no one had heard from Ivy after her marriage. With the recent addition of the GRO indexes online and the assistance of some kind listers from the Angus Rootsweb list I have been able to determine Ivy's marriage in 1940. I have ordered the cert online in hopes of obtaining a bit more information such as address in Thanet and the age of Herbert. I found 2 Herbert C's one born in 1885 and the other born in 1909. If the tale has some truth then the 1885 Herbert is the husband but it could easily be the 1909 Herbert. Wondering if anyone on the list might have access to an obituary in mid 1975 for Ivy (Died A M J 1975 Dist Thanet Vol 16 Page 1901) as I understand an English death cert does not contain very much information. The younger Herbert C. died in May 1990 in Barnet, London (died A M J 1990 Vol 11, page 180, Reg 590) but could not find an appropriate death for the older Herbert C. I believe Ivy and Helen could have been members of the Westgate and Birchington Golf Club is it possible this Herbert C. Keene was also a member. I was able to obtain some information from British Phone books and it appears H.C. Keene lived at West Wing, Royal Esplanade Margate Thanet for the 1951, 1952, 1953, 1961 issues then the 1963, 64,70, 71,, 73, 73 and 75 show I. M. Keene at 4 Park Clo, Queen Elizabeth Ave, Cliftonville, Thanet. Might there be someone on the list familiar with these two people. OR where I might search next to confirm I have the right people. From a quick search of the birth indexes it does not appear this couple had children. Thank you for any assistance or leads in this mystery. Arlene Canada