Hi Keith. Ramsgate Library was burnt down a couple of years ago. Not sure if it has been rebuilt yet, but Suzannah ( listowner) will know. Main Cemetery in Ramsgate is at the end of Cecilia Road. Map here http://tinyurl.com/3x43xpr Information from Thanet Cemeteries here http://tinyurl.com/3yr8drn HTH Anne On 21 Sep 2010, at 15:03, Keith Mackley wrote: > Hi Anyone > > Could you please help. I'm on my way back from France on the 8th > Oct. and hoping to look at the grave of Frances Woodward Emmerson > who is buried in the Cemetery Ramsgate. Before I travel back home to > Leeds. Can anyone tell me if there are more than one cemetery in > Ramsgate,and does the library have family history section? > > Thank you in anticipation > > Keith Mackley >

Yes, Ramsgate Library reopned Jan 2009. It has an excellent local studies section. You may wish to contact Thanet Crematorium before your visit, as they hold the records for Ramsgate Main Cemtery as it will be a tough job finding the grave without a number or location ans the cemetery is HUGE! Crematorium@thanet.gov.uk Have a good trip! Margate Local & Family History --- On Tue, 21/9/10, Anne Peat <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> wrote: > From: Anne Peat <anne.peat@bigwindows.demon.co.uk> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] Ramsgate Cemetary > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010, 16:08 > Hi Keith. Ramsgate Library was burnt > down a couple of years ago. Not  > sure if it has been rebuilt yet, but Suzannah ( listowner) > will know. > Main Cemetery in Ramsgate is at the end of Cecilia Road. > Map here http://tinyurl.com/3x43xpr > > Information from Thanet Cemeteries here http://tinyurl.com/3yr8drn > > HTH > Anne > On 21 Sep 2010, at 15:03, Keith Mackley wrote: > > > Hi Anyone > > > > Could you please help. I'm on my way back from France > on the 8th  > > Oct. and hoping to look at the grave of Frances > Woodward Emmerson  > > who is buried in the Cemetery Ramsgate. Before I > travel back home to  > > Leeds. Can anyone tell me if there are more than one > cemetery in  > > Ramsgate,and does the library have family history > section? > > > > Thank you in anticipation > > > > Keith Mackley > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Hi Anyone Could you please help. I'm on my way back from France on the 8th Oct. and hoping to look at the grave of Frances Woodward Emmerson who is buried in the Cemetery Ramsgate. Before I travel back home to Leeds. Can anyone tell me if there are more than one cemetery in Ramsgate,and does the library have family history section? Thank you in anticipation Keith Mackley -- _______________________________________________ Surf the Web in a faster, safer and easier way: Download Opera 9 at http://www.opera.com

Thank you, Susannah, for the information about Beatrice Cleveland of St Georges Hotel, Margate. I think this is the wife of my father's cousin George. He had a brother Kirby. This is the first time I've had a direct hit on family. regards Rosemary Redfern

Hi Rosemary I am hugely interested in this family and have built a very good family tree. Would love to have a chat and swap info Regards Suzannah Margate Local & Family History --- On Tue, 21/9/10, Rosemary Redfern <rosemary.redfern@orange.fr> wrote: > From: Rosemary Redfern <rosemary.redfern@orange.fr> > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Beatrice Cleveland > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, 21 September, 2010, 9:11 > Thank you, Susannah, for the > information about Beatrice Cleveland of  > St Georges Hotel, Margate.  I think this is the wife > of my father's  > cousin George.  He had a brother Kirby.  This is > the first time I've  > had a direct hit on family. > regards Rosemary Redfern > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Isle of Thanet Gazette 17th May 1940 MISSING - FLIGHT SERGEANT BASIL CAREY Well known in Margate, his native town, Flight Sergeant Basil CAREY, son of Mr Harry CAREY of Deal, was posted as missing Monday and up to yesterday (Thursday) there had been no news of him. Mr Harry CAREY, who was informed by telegram, was formerly associated with the Plaza Cinema Margate, and lived in the town until six months ago. His son, who is twenty one, managed the Regent Cinema before joining the Royal Air Force in April last year. A nephew of Mr George CLEVELAND, of St George's Hotel, Cliftonville, he was to have been married soon. Margate Local & Family History

Isle of Thanet Gazette 10th May 1940 Cleveland, on May 7th 1940 at The Cottage, Cornwall Gardens, Cliftonville, Ida Beatrice Cleveland, wife of George of the St George's Hotel, Margate, sadly missed by daddy and the boys. Isle of Thanet Gazette 10th May 1940 GENIAL HOSTESS - Death of Mrs George CLEVELAND The death on Tuesday at the age of fifty four years of Mrs Ida Beatrice CLEVELAND, wife of Mr George CLEVELAND, robs St George's Hotel, Cliftonville of one of its most genial and loveable characters, and regular visitors to the hotel will miss her pleasing personality. The daughter of Mr Thomas CAREY of Ealing, Mrs CLEVELAND came to Margate twenty eight years ago when she married Mr George CLEVELAND and she has always taken an active part in the management of the hotel. Guests were not merely guests to her, they were friends. In the days before the last war Mrs CLEVELAND was a prominent member of the old Thanet Operatic Society. She was later one of the Cleveland Concert Party, and was instrumental in the raising of over £4,000 for local charities as the result of Sunday evening concerts at the hotel. During the last war she entertained soldiers at concerts at the Richborough mystery camp. Another role she played in the Great War was controlling the rationing of food at the Ritz Hotel London. She took a great interest in Margate and District General Hospital and was a member of the management committee, while she was actively associated with the Inner Wheel of Margate and was one of their most popular presidents when she occupied that position in 1937-8. In 1936, when vice president, she attended a Rotary Convention at Atlantic City USA, as Margate's representative. Mrs CLEVELAND leaves a widower and two sons. The funeral takes place at Margate Cemetery at Twelve o'clock this (Friday) morning. 23rd August 1940 East Kent Advertiser and Echo Re: Ida Beatrice Cleveland Pursuant to the Trustee Act 1925 Notice is hereby given that all persons having any claims against the Estate of Ida Beatrice Cleveland of 'The Cottage', Cornwall Gardens, Cliftonville Margate, Kent, who died on the 7th May 1940 are hereby required to send particulars thereof in writing to the Westminster bank Limited, Trustee Department, Chief Office at Priory Mansions, bath Road, Bournemouth, Hants, the executor (jointly with George Harlow Cleveland) of the Will of the said Ida Beatrice Cleveland or to the undersigned the Solicitor to the Executors on or before the 24th day of October 1940 after which date the Executors will proceed to distribute the said Estate, having regard only to the claims then notified. Dated this 18th day of August 1940. Boys and Maughan, India House, Margate and at 23 Market Place Reading. Margate Local & Family History

Isle of Thanet Gazette 13th September 1940 GUY - HOGBIN Ramsgate Hockey player weds A well known member of Ramsgate Ladies Hockey Club, Miss Marjorie HOGBIN, daughter of Mrs O HOGBIN of Ellington Road, Ramsgate and now living at Harpenden, was married at High Street Methodist Church Harpenden on Saturday. Her groom was Mr Sidney GUY, son of Mr and Mrs S GUY of March, Cambridge. He is a master at Buxton College. The bride, who was eductaed at Ramsgate County Girls SCjoll was given away by her brother, Mr Leslie HOGBIN, and the cermony was preforned by the Rev G G Barnes. Margate Local & Family History

/Hi Suzannah Just testing to see if this works Kind regards Sheila

Isle of Thanet Gazette 9th June 1928 The Late Mr A BISHOP - The funeral of Mr Alfred BISHOP, late of 3 Clifton Street, Margate, took place at St John's Cemetery on Friday afternoon of last week, the service being conducted by the Rev E M Davies. Mr BISHOP, who prior to the war, was associated with many activities in the town, was well known and respected, as was evidenced by the large number of floral tokens of sympathy. For a great many years he was a leading member of the Beaconsfield Institute, being a guest at the opening some time ago of the new club premises and was an energetic worker in the Conservative cause. An Oddfellow, he took a great interest in the work of the local Alexandra Lodge, of the late years more especially in the Juvenile branch, in which his interest was maintained until his death. During the war, Mr BISHOP enrolled as a special constable and carried on those duties as occasion demanded until prevented by illness. At the interment the Force was represented by member of the Margate Borough Police. The mourners were as follows:- Mrs A BISHOP (widow), Mr A C BISHOP (son), Miss N E BISHOP, Mrs J H WINCH, Mrs WGO PETTMAN, Mrs J A PETTMAN and Mrs V PAY (daughters), Mr WGO PETTMAN, Mr JA PETTMAN and Mr V PAY (sons in law), Mrs A C BISHOP (daughter in law). Floral tributes were sent by:- "Mum", Nell, Alice and Harry and family; Lincs; Dorothy and Billy; Alf and Bardy; Agnes and Jack; Daisy and Vin; sister Lizzie and niece Betty, London; Brother, Sister and niece Cornwall; All at 33 Osnaburgh Street London; All at Plumstead; Mrs SWANN and Leslie; Sister Sophia and children, Hitchen; Alan Dosie and Billy; Sophia and Fred; Mr and Mrs J T JARMAN; Mr and Mrs PETTMAN, Mr and Mrs FREEMAN, London; Chief Constable, Officers and Men of Margate Borough Police Force; the Alexandra Juvenile Oddfellows Committee, Officers and Brethren of the Loyal Alexandra Lodge (5654), Margate; The Beaconsfield Institute; Cliftonville Benefit Club; Mr and Mrs OXLEY and family, Sittingbourne; R.J.E and family; A few neighbours, Clifton Street; A few neighbours, Wellington gardens; Annie and Will, Auntie; Mr and Mrs PAY and Mildred; All at Watson's Central Garage; Mr H G HATCH and family; Mrs BERRY and family. Margate Local & Family History

Hi Sandra, I will reply to you offline when I have a closer look at the CD. Regards Joan. -----Original Message----- From: isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:isle-of-thanet-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of dave ager Sent: 15 September 2010 20:09 To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Clark/Pettitt Dear List Interested to see this posting as my gtgtgtgran was a Mary Clark. From the names of witnesses on various marriage certificates I have concluded that she had siblings Sarah, William, and Thomas, while two of her children were Jane and Daniel. All these names are found in the family of Jane Hughes and Daniel Clark, so I think Mary may well have been their daughter. However, as these are not uncommon names, there may have been another family with the same names. Does anyone have any information to suggest their is another family with the same names at the same time ie late 1700's early 1800's? Does Joan have the names of witnesses at John Pettitt's wedding, as this might be another clue? Sarah Clark married Elijah Emptage and William Clark married Elisabeth Emptage, so these may well be siblings of Harriet. Thank you Sandra Ager ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Ooo, one for the HEDG(E)COCK file but alas not one of mine. Nice that it's a 'pretty' Margate wedding. Cheers Andy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Suzannah Foad" <suzannah.foad@btopenworld.com> To: <isle-of-thanet-l@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, September 15, 2010 5:49 PM Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] PRETTY MARGATE WEDDING - HEDGECOCK - FRENCHMargate 1928 > PRETTY MARGATE WEDDING > FRENCH - HEDGDECOCK > >

Dear List Interested to see this posting as my gtgtgtgran was a Mary Clark. From the names of witnesses on various marriage certificates I have concluded that she had siblings Sarah, William, and Thomas, while two of her children were Jane and Daniel. All these names are found in the family of Jane Hughes and Daniel Clark, so I think Mary may well have been their daughter. However, as these are not uncommon names, there may have been another family with the same names. Does anyone have any information to suggest their is another family with the same names at the same time ie late 1700's early 1800's? Does Joan have the names of witnesses at John Pettitt's wedding, as this might be another clue? Sarah Clark married Elijah Emptage and William Clark married Elisabeth Emptage, so these may well be siblings of Harriet. Thank you Sandra Ager

PRETTY MARGATE WEDDING FRENCH - HEDGDECOCK A very pretty wedding took place on Thursday of last week at St John's Church Margate. The contracting parties were Clara Lydia HEDGECOCK, only daughter of Mr and Mrs C HEDGECOCK, Belcot, All Saints Avenue, Margate and Arthur Ernest FRENCH, eldest son of Mr and Mrs E FRENCH, Babbcacombe, Laleham Road, Margate. The Rev W H Clay BA officiated. The best man was Mr Cyril FRENCH (brother of the bridegroom. The bride, who was given away by her father, was attired in a white crepe-de-chine dress, with a handsome Brussels lace veil, held in position by a coronet of orange blossoms and carried a shower bouquet of lilies, white heather and carnations. The bride maids in attendance were Miss Grace ANDERSON and Miss Edith KNIGHT, who were dressed in lavender blue crepe-de-chine dresses, with large beige picture hats underlines and draped with lavender blue Georgette. They carried shower bouquets, the gifts of the bridegroom. The service was choral, the hymns sung being 'The voice that breathed o'er Eden' and 'Lead us, heavenly father'. The church was beautifully decorated with palms and flowers by Messrs Clark. A reception was held at the Fort Lodge Hotel, where between fifty and sixty guests toasted the health of the happy pair. Dancing followed. Later Mr and Mrs FRENCH left for Torquay, where the honeymoon is being spent. They were given a hearty send off at the station by many friends, who showered them with confetti. The following is a list of present:- Bride to Bridegroom, silver cigarette box and smokers companion; bridegroom to bride, leather handbag; brides parents cheque; bridegrooms parents, cheque, china cabinet and tea, dinner and toilet services; Gracie and Jim, carpet sweeper; Mrs C Mussared, aluminium kettle; Mrs L Riddle, afternoon teacloth and towels; Mr and Mrs J Pearce, wicker bedroom chair;, the Misses P M Woolard, painted porcelain glass tray; Mr and Mrs Woolard, coffee table; Mr and Mrs T Woolard, blankets; Mr and Mrs G Maylum, silver dinner cruet; Mr and Mrs G Blytho, oak biscuit barrel; Mr and Mrs F Holton, grate companion set; Mr and Mrs P Miles, set of oak trays; Mr and Mrs C Sole, set of aluminium saucepans; Mr and Mrs C Bezodis, silver cake basket; Mr and Mrs A Mead, case of silver fish knives and forks; Mr and Mrs E Whiddett, silver tea service; Mr and Mrs G Green, case of silver fish servers; Mrs and Mrs T Whiddett, teaspoons in a case; Mr and Mrs G Adams, fruit service; Mr and Mrs T martin, silver cake basket; Mr and Mrs T Jezard, silk cushion; Mr S Wood and Miss Peain(sic), handsome vase; Mrs H Anderson, Wedgewood biscuit barrel; Mr H Anderson, pair of stainless carvers and sharpener; Mr Bowen and Miss E Knight, oak cake stand; Staff of the Rates and Valuation Office, coffee set; Mr and Mrs G Chittenden, blankets; Mr G Chittenden Jnr and Gladys, silk cushion; Mr and Mrs Everett, stainless tea and dinner knives; Bob and Jack Wodden, plaque; Mr and Mrs W Slaughter, bedspread; Mr J Doughty jnr, breakfast cruet; Mr and Mrs Futter, damask dinner cloth; Mr and Mrs B Gore, cut glass jug and tumblers; Mr and Mrs Meatyard, silver rimmed bread board and knife; Mr W Tillyer, cushion covers; Mrs A Jarrett, sugar dredger; Mr and Mrs W Jarrett, silver and glass jam dish; Mr and Mrs Blake, bedroom clock; Mr and Mrs G Palmer and Miss Kemp, silver fruit basket; Mrs L Woodward, coffee set; Mr and Mrs S Freeman, hemstitched sheets; Mr S Culver, teaspoons; Mr and Mrs E Howell, set of silver egg cups and spoons; Mr and Mrs F Mason, silver butter dish; Mrs J Bailie, Black velvet nightdress case; Mr and Mrs Mackenzie, coffee set; Miss E H Cain, oak letter rack; Messrs Hancock and Cooper, silver cake basket; Mrs J Tomlin, set of jugs; Mr and Mrs A Page, silver and glass fruit stand. Margate Local & Family History

A BIRCHINGTON RECORD - Sixty Six Years Married Isle of Thanet Gazette 10th March 1928 Sixty six years of happily married life is the proud record of Mr and Mrs John GARDNER of 5 Brunswick Place, Park Lane, Birchington, who celebrated the anniversary of their wedding day on Friday. A 'Gazette' representative who had visited them at home found them seated by the fire in a  pleasant little front sitting room containing many relics of bygone days. Mrs GARDNER was busily engaged in sewing and the steady manner in which she plied her needle and the meticulous arrangement of her work basket might well have been envied by women many years her junior. Both she and her husband enjoy excellent health and retain full possession of their faculties. Mr GARDNER, who is in his 90th year, was born at Acol in 1838 and throughout his long life has resided in the district. He commenced work as a scarer of crows at the early age of ten and from that day until five years ago, when he retired, he worked on the land in various capacities. Mrs GARDNER was born at Monkton in 1841 and will, therefore be eighty seven this year. It was while he was employed by the late Mr COLLARD at Monkton, as an outdoor servant that he met his future wife when she was a domestic servant in the same village. The couple were married at Monkton Church on the second of March 1862 by the late Rev Wish and first lived in a house in Station Road, Birchington. The premises which stood on the site of the United Services Club, have long since been demolished and Mr GARDNER recalls that in those days the only two public houses in the village were the Powell Arms and the New Inn. He and his wife moved to their present residence in Brunswick Place about fifty seven years ago and have held the tenancy under five different landlords. Mr GARDNER proudly asserts that he and Mrs GARDNER are the oldest pair in the parish, but it is probable that their record is unequalled in a far larger area. On fine days Mr GARDNER is still to be seen in the streets of Birchington but his wife has been prevented from walking outdoors for the past four years through rheumatism. Evidence of her amazing vitality is provided by the fact that in March of last year she underwent a serious operation at Ramsgate General Hospital and although slight hope was entertained for her recovery, the operation proved completely successful. She returned to her home and after a week or two in bed regained her customary good health. Longevity is not peculiar to one member of Mrs GARDNER's family for she has a sister who will be ninety one this year and another in her 89th year. Mr GARDNER's parents lived to be over eighty and his grandfather attained the age of ninety one. He is the eldest of a family of eight, all of whom survive. Two daughters, Miss GARDNER, who resided with them and a Mrs HILL, two grandchildren and two great grandchildren are among their living relatives and a married daughter died about seven years ago. Mr and Mrs GARDNER have been constant readers of the Gazette for many years. A Picture of the couple accompanies this article. (Wife's maiden name Charlotte HADDAWAY) Margate Local & Family History

STOP PRESS - Death of Mr Curzon M POOLE Isle of Thanet Gazette 10th November 1928 After a long illness, the death occurred this (Friday) morning of Mr Curzon M POOLE of 30 Surrey Road, Margate. A prominent citizen for many years, Mr POOLE was popular in musical circles, being the conductor of the Municipal Choir and also being musical director of amateur operatic productions. he was a member of the Rotary Club since its early days, and by his genial personality possessed a large body of friends. Margate Local & Family History

Is Stella still subscribed to our mailing list? If so, could you get in contact as I have found the obituary of the above and I would like to pass it on Regards Suzannah Margate Local & Family History

Sure is, grandson of Susannah Pamflett that is. I am not sure of the Knight connection. Susannah Pamflett's's great grandson Walter Joseph Read 1892-1972 married my Great Grandfather's sister Daisy Alice Read Margate Local & Family History --- On Tue, 14/9/10, Bob Quinn <nabob@jps.net> wrote: > From: Bob Quinn <nabob@jps.net> > Subject: Re: [Isle-of-Thanet] SNOW STORM WARRIORS - Ramsgate Lifeboat's RoughVoyage 1924 > To: isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com > Date: Tuesday, 14 September, 2010, 0:46 >         YOU SAID > > > AT SEA IN BLIZZARD > SNOW STORM WARRIORS > Ramsgate Lifeboat's Rough Voyage > > 12th January 1924 Broadstairs and St Peter's Mail > > The New Coxswain (Picture of Tom READ accompanies this > article) > > It was also the first occasion upon which Howard KNIGHT > sailed as second > coxswain. > > > Is Thomas Read the grandson of Susannah Pamflett and is > Howard Knight any > relation?? > > > Forgot to include this in the first e-mail > > Q > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com > with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the > subject and the body of the message >

Joan Such occurrances usually indicate a maiden name somewhere in the line. eg. I had a William Church Friend in my tree - if I recall a grandmother (I think) had the maiden name CHURCH. Try tracing back the female lines only (yes, I realise this is more difficult pre-censuses). Also bear in mind the family may have moved into the Birchington area from elsewhere - possibly quite a distance. eg. I have PETTIT from the late 1700s in the Ebony area of Kent, and CLARK from Eastry area. Use a program like Parloc (Parish Locator) to methodically check surrounding parish registers - it may take a while, but persevere! Steve Baldock B.Sc.(Hons)(Eng) contact@baldockfaggfamily.org.uk http://baldockfaggfamily.org.uk http://www.facebook.com/baldockfaggfamily http://twitter.com/baldockfaggfam > My g/g/grandfather was James Pettit Clark/e the son of Daniel Clark/e and > Jane Hughes he was born 1801 in Birchington, he married Harriet Emptage > and > had quite a few children including a son he named James Pettit born 1826. > > My problem is I am trying to find a connection between the Pettit and > Clark > family and the only one I have so far is a marriage between John Pettit a > widower and Mary Clark/e a widow in 1770, does anyone have these two on > their tree and if so did they have any children? > > So as not to waste anyone's time I do have all the census BMD's and certs > for James and his family it's the connection that is driving me mad, I > also > have checked Barry White's site and I have the Birchington CD but can't > find > anything that sheds a light on this, the name seems to be important as > James > 1801 included the "Pettit" on all documents. > > Thank you. > > Joan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Suzannah Could I have a copy of the photo please - he is one of our Pettit Clarke clan. Many thanks Jill > Message Received: Sep 12 2010, 04:57 PM > From: "Suzannah Foad" > To: "isle-of-thanet@rootsweb.com" > Cc: > Subject: [Isle-of-Thanet] Old Official Retires - Harbour Masters Long Service, PETTIT, Broadstairs 1920 > > > Broadstairs and St Peter's Echo 26th June 1920 > Old Official Retires - Harbour Masters Long Service > > Mr Jethro PETTIT, harbour master at Broadstairs who is 77 years of age is > resigning the office which he has held for 20 years. Previously for 32 years he > was a member of the local lifeboat crew. > In recognition of his faithful service the Pier and Harbour Committee > recommended the Council to appoint Mr PETTIT boat inspector as a wage of 35s per > week. Mr PETTIT will be succeeded in office by his assistant Mr J T BONES. > > A picture of Jethro Pettit accompanies this article. > Margate Local & Family History > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to ISLE-OF-THANET-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >