Let's see, my genealogy: James Ervin #177 (Fifth Great Grand Father) Robert Ervin #175 GGGGGrand Father) Samuel Ervin #171 (GGGGrand Father) Robert William Ervin #144 (GGGrand Father) Richard Baxter Ervin #134 (GGrand Father) Richard William Ervin #55 (Grand Father) Thomas Mabry Ervin #1 (Father) John Franklin Ervin #7 (Me) I don't think that I have seen directly the Sam Ervin Material. Do you mean that you are descended from John Bruce Ervin? If so, I didn't see anybody in that branch in my Database that lived in Alabama so we could probably exchange information. -jfe- -----Original Message----- From: Robert Ervin [mailto:Ervin200@email.msn.com] Sent: Sunday, February 28, 1999 8:40 PM To: IRVIN-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRVIN-L] Irvin, Ervin & Urvin John Ervin, Reference your comments Feb 28th on Robert Ervin's. James Irvine (Ervin) #177 and Elizabeth James Irvine (Ervin) #178 had seven children. They were Hugh, Rebecca, Elizabeth, John, Samuel, James and Robert (the one you mentioned). I am descended from John. After coming to South Carolina in the 1730's the Irvine name was changed to Ervin. What line are you descended from? Do you have the material that was assembled by Senator Sam Ervin? I have all that material plus other. Let me know if I can be of help in your quest. Robert Tait Ervin, III (The Alabama Ervin's)