Hi All: I have the book "The Irvines and Their Kin" by L. Boyd, which may be the genealogy Elizabeth mentioned. It takes our line back to a Christopher Irvine who died in battle at Flodden Field, Scotland, in 1513. Some of the family removed to Glenoe, Ireland in 1584 and descendants came from there to the US ca.1729. A number of people have entered parts of this family on World Family Tree. I agree that documentation on the earlier years is shaky. Dorothy dormi@best1.net