Sorry Cara, As Daz mentioned in his post, he was most helpful to me. Unfortunately, we ended up passing several emails off list and didn't copy to the list. Daz also provides a wealth of knowledge concerning mining in Wicklow. His response pretty much covered everything. However, I'm still a little curious as to the true origin and age of the "gate." Just curious myself about such stuff. Now about those pheasants jumping into your pockets . . . Bob Thompson