Hi Bill Thank you so much for responding but I doubt we have a match. My gg grandfather William WHATELY/WHEATLEY was probably born after 1803 and his son William was born before 1855. We think Thomas was the oldest child born abt 1835 and my great grandfather John was born in 1855 (I have a copy of his birth certificate) But there is a CARR connection - their dtr Catherine married Silas CARR in the Boston, Massachusetts area in 1870. I believe Silas' parents were Thomas and June. Stephanie In a message dated 1/17/2006 5:21:30 PM Pacific Standard Time, waseely@aol.com writes: Stephanie, Read your email on Wheatley's in the hopes that the Thomas was b. 1855 and the William was born 1859 and the father was an Edward with the mother being an Ellen Carr. For some reason either the dates are in error or the assumptions appear to be twisted? Had some emails that Heatley = Wheatley ????? Bill WAS