Thanks Cara for the attached information. Margaret from Burlington,Ontario Canada >-----Original Message----- >From: Cara_Links [mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au] >Sent: July 4, 2005 11:04 PM >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Wicklow] PARISH RECORDS > >I am sorry but I do not believe in this harrassment or as it >has been put bombardment of someone at an email address, >glory be I know what its like to open my own email mailing >box and be inundated with complaints, suggestions that I need >these certain type of pills, or maybe a download of a >programme, and find that someone is sharing there complaint >with me, and I am happy to assist where I can with anything >to do with family research ---so imagine these peoples >thoughts if they open their mail boxes to all these mails >complaining about the cost of research through the parish register. >I would simply re-set my settings and have them disappear in >the rubbish bin, a more organised way would be to have a body >of well mannered people approach the necessary people and >hand them everyones complaint verbally and in a nicely >written letter, that way you have covered both bases and you >are not simply finding your words dissapearing into cyber >space and clogging the universe or blocking out my moon. > >Now whilst I do not believe the priest of any religion has >the right to place upon it a search fee, beyond anyones purse >strings, and I believe that along the way, the parish priest >was paid to record these BDM, and hold them in a register >for posterity, and they should be given freely, but along the >way, someone has ruffled the feathers of these men, and the >Arklow man is not the only one with his back up. >There through out Ireland are many, indeed I am seeing once >again the necessity to contact several relevant parties to >get once again permission to even look at a couple of the >reels at the National Library in Dublin.Something has caused >this, and indeed I feel it may well be the over burdening of >someones patience. >And I do agree also, that most of you seeking a lookup from >any of these parish registers, are not firstly seeking what >is available in the public domain, be it all too far from you >to research yourself, but as Paul has pointed out there are >other options open to each and everyone of us to use.( even >if Paul has taken leave from his researching for the time >being) he has pointed you to some options for reseachers. > >I do not know what LDS has filmed and that should be an >option for those >of you to source out should you live outside Ireland, and >order in the said film, you must remember what you see with >your own eyes, and record is far more reliable that what >someone else saw and recorded, plus the fact that the >certificate you receive today is just a piece of paper >written out by someone else who sited the person then had >someone else sign it ( the parish priest rarely does the >search) and neither do you, you are a lucky person that gets >a parish man to sit with you and allow you to go through his >registers. >Also you need to take aboard the fact that not all books are >housed with the parish priest a lot of burial books for >Wicklow are floating in different houses, as those people are >the caretakers of these books and graveyards.And those people >themselves are busy people and should anyone desire to look >at those said books also need to make an appointment to see them. > >One of the most important things you must take to mind is >that most parish priests or clergymen of any faith are a >working man, working 24/7 52 weeks of the year, so therefore, >you need to make sure you have accessed all that is available >within the public domain first, before you then contact the >parish priest, but in Arklow's case there is an office, where >he has people doing look ups, but then again can you be sure >that they have sourced the people correctly that you need, I >harp back to a perfect example of paid research within my own >search, for one TOOLE child, and find that TWO were born in >the same year, thats fine they gave me my man with the wrong >parents, and when queried I received a shrug of the shoulders >and told *that happens *, the annoying thing is I know they >are wrong, and the mere fact that two boys same name born in >same year should have been taken off and both should have >been offered in this instance as the search was paid for, and >a fee for both would have been paid, I went back to the >public acess of reels at the National Library and noted the >births myself, saved me giving this woman a few words she >would not have understood. >But anyway those of you that see this as a lecture, feel free >to take it aboard as such, becuase in a way it is, you should >always acess what you can in the public domain then as a last >resort hopefully find an office that is attached to these >parishes and access them through the office staff. >Also bear in mind that in the summer months of the year, >every man woman and child, who had an ancestor born, married >or died in Ireland is busy chasing their ancestors, they do >not belong to this list so they have not learnt what has been >readily, told to you good folk here, so they are busy, >running around trying to access the poor busy clergyman, and >the clergyman is busy trying to get on with what is his busy >time of the year. >The one valuable thing that I have learnt in my Irish >research, be it home here, in Ireland is to exercise >patience, and when that is failing take a deep breath and go >do the gardening. > >Cheers for now >CARA > > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >Have you put something down the list lately that would make >someones day, like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip >of information, you found but didnt need? > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. 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