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    1. Re: [Wicklow] Crossbrige, Co.Wicklow
    2. ibsjackson
    3. Hello Betty, What a wonderful surprise and a major breakthrough in my research. Thank you very, very much. I often think that Genealogy is like a jigsaw puzzle with pieces falling into place, OH so slowly! I am now busy reading my way through the marriage articles you posted. Wentworth Paine and Mary Jones had 3 daughters. One of them, Mary Frances married Jacob Jackson in 1856 in Dunleckny, Co Carlow and their oldest son, Jacob Francis Samuel Jackson became my husbands Grandfather. I have a letter from Mary Jones written in 1856 (from "Laurel Lodge") to her daughter Mary Paine. I don't know where Laurel Lodge is. It could be either Co. Wicklow or Co. Carlow. I also have a Jessie Jones who married a Luke Ashmore in the1880th The Ashmores were involved in horse breeding. Just this for now and again thank you so very much. Kind regards from NZ on a sunny springday Inga (Jackson) ----- Original Message ----- From: "betty" <betty@flexinet.com.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: RE: [Wicklow] Crossbrige, Co.Wicklow Hi Inga, I have transcribed a deed about the marriage articles of Wentworth Paine and Mary Jones, from the LDS film 469014. I only copied it because William Haskins of Fairwood was involved together with Shepard Jones of Woodside Esq. as third parties. The deed was signed 11 Sept 1834 and registered 20 Oct. 1834. My ancestor was Thomas Haskins, brother of William and they both lived at Fairwood near Tinahely. Would you like me to send you a copy of my transcription? I cannot make a connection between my Jones family and yours so far. Will fill you in on mine next time Betty . ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 28/10/2005

    11/01/2005 04:01:07
    1. RE: [Wicklow] Crossbrige, Co.Wicklow
    2. betty
    3. Hello Inga, I'm so glad I was able to help. If you have trouble understanding the deed, you are not alone. When I first started reading them, I found the abbreviations puzzling. One was "for a cons'n" meaning "for a consideration" which in turn meant that some money changed hands. Only it wasn't an apostrophe but a funny squiggly mark over the end or the middle of the word. Another obstacle to understanding the content was sometimes a referral to other covenants which were not written into the deed in question. The witnesses to a deed were often relatives but in this case I think they may have been staff of the firm of solicitors in Dublin, because the ages are given. Most of the deeds I read have been for my Brien family in Northern Ireland. A few had marriage settlements and I have never come across conditions protecting the wife in case of bankruptcy before. I think the townland called "Coolruss" in the deed is probably Coolross which is on the southern side of Tinahely, and not far west of the church. I have a friend who sent me copies of sketch maps he made in the Manuscript Room of the National Library in Dublin. They were of the Moland Survey in 1728. A long wedge shaped part of Fairwood became Gorteen, adjacent to "Tinahely, including Coolross". The other part of Fairwood became Boleybawn and Greenhall. Fairwood was close to the venue for the olden day fairs. Nowadays the County Show is still held there. I have just looked up my own records from the time I was looking at the Fitzwilliam estate books, MS 6082, Account of Residents & Occupiers .... Gurteen Fairwood: In 1839 William & Thomas Haskins were on 188 acres and Henry Dowse on 109 acres. Gurteen Fairwood: In 1848 the Haskins family were on 188 acres of which William occupied 117 acres. John Jones was on 109 acres. John Jones, 55 years, 102 acres, wife 52 years, 3 sons, 2 daughters, 1 female servant, Farmer. Gurteen Fairwood : In 1850 the details on John Jones were the same except the ages 57 and 54 respectively. For 1860 I have recorded the Haskins details but no Jones. I could have been in a hurry, near closing time? The name Jones may have been there but it is not in my notes for Gurteen Fairwood. I don't know why in 1848 John Jones was only farming 102 acres of his 109 acre lease. If the above John Jones is your Mary's father, he was about 41 in 1834,the year of the marriage, only just old enough to have a marriageable daughter? The children listed above as male and female are only those living on the Fitzwilliam Estate. My Jane Jones was born in Dublin in 1832. Her father was William Jones, cabinet maker. Because he was in trade in Dublin I was able to go to the Dublin City Archives. A helpful librarian there accessed the Freedom Rolls and sent me a computer printout of all the Jones names, because I was only in Dublin for that day. The three categories for admission interesting for genealogists are 1. by Service (completed an apprenticeship in one of the Trade Guilds of Dublin, to become a Free Citizen and able to vote) 2. By Birth, to sons and sometimes daughters of Free Citizens 3. By Marriage, to sons-in-law of Free Citizens. William Jones, joiner, admitted to the Freedom of Dublin in Easter 1789. William Jones, joiner, admitted by birth, Midsummer 1839 (my Jane's father?) Arthur Jones, joiner, admitted by birth, Midsummer 1835 From 1841 onward the records are more useful, giving the name & date of admission of the person from whom the right was derived. Richard Jones, cabinet maker, admitted 18 Oct 1841, by birth, son of William Jones, Easter 1789. Thomas Jones, cabinet maker, admitted 18 Nov 1842, by service, William Jones, Easter 1789 Arthur Jones, admitted 1856 by birth, grandson of William Jones, Easter 1789 There are a few more Jones names and I can sort of tie them together a bit from the addresses in the Dublin Directories. I have always thought it insignificant, the name Jones being quite common, that there was a John Jones living at Gurteen (Fairwood) on the Haskins' doorstep in 1848 and Jane Jones from Dublin married Thomas Haskins in 1856. There was a story that Thomas Haskins wanted to marry someone else, but he had to MARRY MONEY. The father of Mary in your deed was John Jones Esq. and seems to have been well heeled. The Jones family in Dublin had a well established business. It is possible we may find a connection. Perhaps the first William was a younger son and was given the chance to establish himself in Dublin, after that never looking back. Regards, Betty -----Original Message----- From: ibsjackson [mailto:ibsjackson@xtra.co.nz] Sent: Tuesday, 1 November 2005 8:01 AM To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Crossbrige, Co.Wicklow Hello Betty, What a wonderful surprise and a major breakthrough in my research. Thank you very, very much. I often think that Genealogy is like a jigsaw puzzle with pieces falling into place, OH so slowly! I am now busy reading my way through the marriage articles you posted. Wentworth Paine and Mary Jones had 3 daughters. One of them, Mary Frances married Jacob Jackson in 1856 in Dunleckny, Co Carlow and their oldest son, Jacob Francis Samuel Jackson became my husbands Grandfather. I have a letter from Mary Jones written in 1856 (from "Laurel Lodge") to her daughter Mary Paine. I don't know where Laurel Lodge is. It could be either Co. Wicklow or Co. Carlow. I also have a Jessie Jones who married a Luke Ashmore in the1880th The Ashmores were involved in horse breeding. Just this for now and again thank you so very much. Kind regards from NZ on a sunny springday Inga (Jackson) ----- Original Message ----- From: "betty" <betty@flexinet.com.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, October 31, 2005 4:19 PM Subject: RE: [Wicklow] Crossbrige, Co.Wicklow Hi Inga, I have transcribed a deed about the marriage articles of Wentworth Paine and Mary Jones, from the LDS film 469014. I only copied it because William Haskins of Fairwood was involved together with Shepard Jones of Woodside Esq. as third parties. The deed was signed 11 Sept 1834 and registered 20 Oct. 1834. My ancestor was Thomas Haskins, brother of William and they both lived at Fairwood near Tinahely. Would you like me to send you a copy of my transcription? I cannot make a connection between my Jones family and yours so far. Will fill you in on mine next time Betty . ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. ============================== Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.361 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 28/10/2005 ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== The list needs more input, and if you are passing it behind the list, you are defeating the purpose of the list which is to share. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 28/10/2005 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.344 / Virus Database: 267.12.6/151 - Release Date: 28/10/2005

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