The Passport Office is no longer recognizing the babtism of a child in Ireland as legitimating an Irish person when born abroad. I think this is disgraceful and has necessitated in my spending a large sum of money to naturalize although my family have been here since late 1600s. Thanks for the useful discussion. Jocelyn Braddell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 19 February 2009 08:01 To: [email protected] Subject: IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 4, Issue 44 Today's Topics: 1. Re: DEM SULLIVANS AND WITNESSES (Jane Daly) 2. Re: LIMBO (Mary Villalba) 3. Re: LIMBO (Judy Robertson-Wellhauser) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:08:14 +0000 From: Jane Daly <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] DEM SULLIVANS AND WITNESSES To: Cara_Links <[email protected]>, [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cara, you said regarding Church of Ireland baptisms "Church of Ireland well thats a custom in itself Child was not baptised or christened within the church they have a presentation thing and more than likely the child having been baptised at home." Just to clear up any confusion, Church of Ireland children were indeed baptised in the church as evidenced by the presense of baptismal fonts in all Church of Ireland churches. However as the church did not believe in Limbo, there was not a sense of urgency as there was in the Catholic church, therefore the child was often baptised months after the birth. Jane ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:13:54 -0700 From: "Mary Villalba" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] LIMBO To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ah, yes....now I remember.....us COI, COE, Anglican, Episcopal Protestants don't believe in Limbo!!! Bet not too many younger church goers have ever heard that term! m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications, LLC (303) 290-8415 Tele Distinguished Past Governor, Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane Daly" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 AM To: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] DEM SULLIVANS AND WITNESSES > Cara, you said regarding Church of Ireland baptisms > > "Church of Ireland well thats a custom in itself > Child was not baptised or christened within the church they have a > presentation thing and more than likely the child having been baptised at > home." > > Just to clear up any confusion, Church of Ireland children were indeed > baptised in the church as evidenced by the presense of baptismal fonts in > all Church of Ireland churches. However as the church did not believe in > Limbo, there was not a sense of urgency as there was in the Catholic > church, > therefore the child was often baptised months after the birth. > > Jane > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:31:27 +0000 From: "Judy Robertson-Wellhauser" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] LIMBO To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed My grandmother was baptized in Holy Cross Church 3 days after she was born. She was born Dec. 7,1876 and baptized Dec.10,1876. ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-WICKLOW list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-WICKLOW mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 4, Issue 44 ******************************************