Thanks to all who have shared their thoughts on witnesses. Ive found in UK research that from 1860s marriage certs showng witnesses have been the source of knocking down many a brick wall. Before that it seems people didnt have the luxury of attending weddings and often parish officials were used. Saying that sometimes you do get lucky. A database seems a great idea- I currently re read my certs every now and again hoping I will spot something that means more- not the best way of dong things. Carol