Yes, you and Paul are correct. This is not an original copy but a copy of the civil registration as supplied by the IFHF. It does contain quite a bit of the information you have outlined, such as: Name (of child) Date of Baptism/Birth Address Parish/District Gender County Denomination (Here they listed "Civil Record") Father Mother Occupation Sponsor 1/Informant 1 Sponsor 2/Informant 2 Notes I show this in case anyone was wondering what the IFHF was providing. Thanks to your responses I now understand that the name listed for the Sponsor/Informant was the father in this case, and (thanks to Cara) that he made his mark with an "X" I knew that this List would set me straight Thanks again Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Daly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > What you have is a transcript from a database. It may say civil birth > record - but it is not an original copy. > > An official Civil birth record does not record sponsors. > > The headings of an official civil birth record has the following headings - > > Births Registered in the District of - > In the Union of- > in the County of - > > Date and place of birth - > Name (if any) - > Sex - > Name and Surname and Dwelling Place of Father - > Name and Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother - > Rank or Profession of Father - > Signature, Qualification and Residence of Informant - > When Registered - > Signature of Registrar - > Baptismal Name if added after Registration of Birth and Date - > > So as Paul Gorry states there is never a record of sponsors on civil birth > records. > > I would reckon that the transcript you have - has mistakenly titled the > informant of the birth as the sponsor. > > The informant was often the mother or the father - so it is likely in this > case that the father was the informant. > > Jane > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, fosborne <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What I have is the document one receives from the Irish Family History > > Foundation > > on line at www.brsgenealogy.com for the price of 5 Euro. The title is > > "Civil Birth > > Record for John Darcy." I think that Cara may have provided the correct > > reply. > > > > Frank > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "p.jpcollins" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > > May I suggest that this sound more like a baptismal record > > > Regards Peter Collins > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:47 PM > > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > > > > > Frank, > > > > > > > > Whatever that is you're looking at, it's not a civil birth record. > > > > There > > > > is no such thing as a sponsor on a civil record of birth. Is there a > > > > heading "Sponsor" on it? Where did you get it? > > > > > > > > Paul Gorry > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message: > > > > ----------------- > > > > From: fosborne [email protected] > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:59:41 -0500 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > > > I have a civil birth record for John Darcy, born 30 Jan 1874 > > > > Father: John Darcy Mother: Catherine Kennedy > > > > Sponsor 1: John Darcy Sponsor 2: Not Recorded > > > > > > > > Here is my question......In the notes Section it shows: > > > > > > > > **** Father > > > > X **** > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what/who the notes refer to? > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > > > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >