Hello Cara Thank you once again for your input. I can confirm that in the FW McGrath family that left in 1847, Mary was a Byrne. I did wonder if perhaps William had another wife who could have been Mary Maher and thus Michael's mother, but his age within the family doesn't support that theory. Kitty/Catherine's mother was given as Mary Byrne on her marriage certificate and the same held true for the other children. Michael was the 'outsider' - never found with the family in the census or other records. I'm hoping to find some record of him being a godparent when I get around to looking up the baptisms of the children of his (possible) siblings. I have not yet got that far with my McGraths. Michael himself had 11 children and although I've found quite a few baptisms, no McGrath sponsors. Michael's son Edward married a Kate Fitzpatrick who was a grand-daughter of the Tremblays who were connected to the FW family. His son William's widow married into the same Tremblay family. I'm indeed going to walk the back roads and talk to as many people as will chat with me in August. Last September when I took my dad to Ireland and we discovered the Byrne family we are connected to, we did indeed visit the Gate of Tears. Dad could never tell anyone about it as he got too emotional, he had me tell them. He couldn't get enough of the photos. There is probably a wealth of information here in the Ottawa city archives which I have not even looked at. There could be something to confirm/disprove my Michael's relationship to that McGrath family other than a few marriages to Tremblay descendants. According to Canadian records he was in between the ages of the two Michael/Mick McGraths from the FW estate - just to add to the speculation. Sadly the family was poor and pretty much anonymous so that makes finding info other than B-M-D difficult. Thanks again for the suggestions. I'll let you know what I find in Dublin and anywhere else. Ann Message: 2 Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:21:45 +1000 From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] MCGRATH - MAHER - BYRNE To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original In actual fact their was several McGrath families that emmigrated from Fitzwilliams estate and in two of those families there is a Mick or a Michael McGrath one left with the family you have named in 1847 and the other in 1848. End of IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 4, Issue 86 ******************************************

So does this make Timothy Byrne that they were leasing from a relative perhaps her father or brother ? Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ann Burns" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, May 18, 2009 10:04 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] elusive Michael MCGRATH > Hello Cara > > Thank you once again for your input. I can confirm that in the FW McGrath > family that left in 1847, Mary was a Byrne. I did wonder if perhaps > William had another wife who could have been Mary Maher and thus Michael's > mother, but his age within the family doesn't support that theory. > Kitty/Catherine's mother was given as Mary Byrne on her marriage > certificate and the same held true for the other children. Michael was the > 'outsider' - never found with the family in the census or other records. > I'm hoping to find some record of him being a godparent when I get around > to looking up the baptisms of the children of his (possible) siblings. I > have not yet got that far with my McGraths. Michael himself had 11 > children and although I've found quite a few baptisms, no McGrath > sponsors. Michael's son Edward married a Kate Fitzpatrick who was a > grand-daughter of the Tremblays who were connected to the FW family. His > son William's widow married into the same Tremblay > family. > > I'm indeed going to walk the back roads and talk to as many people as will > chat with me in August. Last September when I took my dad to Ireland and > we discovered the Byrne family we are connected to, we did indeed visit > the Gate of Tears. Dad could never tell anyone about it as he got too > emotional, he had me tell them. He couldn't get enough of the photos. > > There is probably a wealth of information here in the Ottawa city archives > which I have not even looked at. There could be something to > confirm/disprove my Michael's relationship to that McGrath family other > than a few marriages to Tremblay descendants. According to Canadian > records he was in between the ages of the two Michael/Mick McGraths from > the FW estate - just to add to the speculation. > > Sadly the family was poor and pretty much anonymous so that makes finding > info other than B-M-D difficult. > > Thanks again for the suggestions. I'll let you know what I find in Dublin > and anywhere else. > > Ann > > > Message: 2 > Date: Mon, 18 May 2009 16:21:45 +1000 > From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] MCGRATH - MAHER - BYRNE > To: <[email protected]> > Message-ID: <[email protected]> > Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; > reply-type=original > > In actual fact their was several McGrath families that emmigrated from > Fitzwilliams estate and in two of those families there is a Mick or a > Michael McGrath > one left with the family you have named in 1847 and the other in 1848. > > > > End of IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 4, Issue 86 > ****************************************** > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.238 / Virus Database: 270.12.34/2121 - Release Date: 05/18/09 17:55:00