Ann and Cara - A while back, Susie Warren (thanks again, Susie) sent me this information on the RC parishes for Ballynultagh townland: <<<Looking at "Tracing your Irish Ancestors" by John Grenham Ballynultagh townland in Wicklow would most probably come under the Roman Catholic Register of Clonmore. Other Roman Catholic Parish Register's in the surrounding area and joining Clonmore are follows:- Clonmore Carlow/Wicklow NLI 4198 1813 -1900 Clonegal Carlow/Wicklow NLI 4197 1833 - 1899 Tomacork (Carnew) Wexford/Wicklow NLI 4256 1847-1900 Hacketstown Carlow NLI 4193 1774 - 1880 Rathvilly Carlow NLI 4189 1797 - 1880 Tullow Carlow NLI 4194 1763 - 1899 Ballon & Rathoe Carlow NLI 4189 1782 - 1896>>>>>
Ballynultagh is up a side street from Shillalegh is the best way for me to describe it, and if one is researching the Fitzwilliam Clearance people you will need lots of time and patience. Why do I say this, well there are more side roads and bye roads, tracks and cross tracks than you could imagine in this area, having spent 5 months in the area doing heaps of writing I can tell you its not an easy little place to tour round, but it is worth the getting lost within its side and by roads and enjoying it all. Cara's thoughts no one else taqken from her diary of many moons gone by The area was in fact in the Fitzwilliams time a very Protestant area, where land belonged to folk Like the Twamleys, who at the time I was researching, who indeed gave me a wonderful insight into how both religions functioned within the area. The Police Barracks was in those times in Crab Apple Lane and by the way is Barbara another researcher of this area - is Barabara alright and has anyone heard from her of late? Now there are two grave yards up Crab Apple Lane you pass the modern Aghold and you think no good looking there no headstones, but they have at sometime been flattened, and you will need to carry a probe and a knife to cut the matting of grass from around the stone, and when you have finished doing this please be kind enough to roll the grass back it appears to be preserving the stones. Then you continue on down this lane ( remember this little black duck cannot read a map) for what seems like a dead end until you come to a cross road, but when you come to this cross road you have gone too far, see what I mean, so on your way down to this cross road you need to be watching on your right for a hidden sign that says Aghowle, and turn down this lane, mind you close all gates going in and out - always leave as you find, and you will not annoy the locals, in Aghowle is both religions buried. everyone who is doing Fitzies clearances would need to check both these graveyards. (Side entry)Oh my goodness I hope that tractor is smaller than it looks cos its a narrow road we are on Then as we return down past modern but old Aghold, there is a cross road and you then cross this to find the modern grave yards of this area. Lots of people in the Fitzwilliam times would not have had headstones..........there are hardly any parish registers to be found and when you do find them there is hardly any records. I also had noted how many of these people died on the road to leaving Ireland ( I hate to think on that one) Also in a side note* I wonder how many of these people were buried elsewhere and not directly within this area? Interesting I didnt know this today I note this in this journal William Wainright Manager of Wentworth Estates ( Carnew All Saints Church) Also if you are going to be looking at Graveyards you will need to look at at least about 21 in the area .........good exercise. Oh by the way if you want to go to the Yew Tree graveyard you must get permission from the owners he was obliging when we called many moons ago it may have changed hands now. Oh and there is the graveyard that I could not name and if anyone dies laughing here today then so be it. I had the task of asking himself over the phone he was in Ireland what this grave yard was named, I knew where it was, in my head anyway, and he said sorry Fred ( thats me) I dont know where you mean, mind you this was at least 6 years after the trip there, and I said of course you know it, that was the one with the phone box on the corner that super man was working in, well I meant the men from the phone company, as it was freezing and he had no shirt on, see I knew where it was, girls. So we haggled on about it some more until I said theres a school near it --- okay its Crosspatrick now you try finding it from that description. Mullinacuff Old graveyard names Bishop, Bourke, Bourne ,Byrne, Brough, Chapman, Coogan, Cooper, Cundaragh, Donahue, Dowzer, Freany, Harris, Hopkins, Ireland, Kelly, Keoghoe, Leburn,.Leyburn,Manning, Mernaugh, Prendergast, Sumers and oh those Tooles are there also, Tomkins, Wall and Willoughby And in following mails I will give you some more names of the people buried in these graveyards that we have been in and out of, and some I am not even game enough to ask himself what name they are now, these days I have a map that I can use with the graveyards ringed in bright red, I wonder who did that for me? Cheers for now Cara
I love your stories Cara, this one really stood out since my ggrandfather claimed on his naturalization papers he was born in Shillalegh. Still looking for those Farrell's, was disappointed in the FHC the other evening. I hadn't been there in years and now that every thing is computerized, trying to find things in the library isn't the same. They want you to use the computers and Ancestry. I like the old microfiche and they use to have a great section on Ireland and could order the film and fiche from Salt Lake City, I guess I'm going to have to go to the National Achieves in San Francisco now. Thanks again for the great story and directions (making another trip back in a few years), it makes you want to close your eyes and dream of days gone by. Alyce Herrera On 5/20/2009 9:59 PM, Cara_Links wrote: > Ballynultagh is up a side street from Shillalegh is the best way for me to > describe it, > and if one is researching the Fitzwilliam Clearance people you will need > lots of time and patience. > > Why do I say this, well there are more side roads and bye roads, tracks and > cross tracks than you could imagine in this area, having spent 5 months in > the area doing heaps of writing I can tell you its not an easy little place > to tour round, but it is worth the getting lost within its side and by roads > and enjoying it all. > > Cara's thoughts no one else taqken from her diary of many moons gone by > > The area was in fact in the Fitzwilliams time a very Protestant area, where > land belonged to folk Like the Twamleys, who at the time I was researching, > who indeed gave me a wonderful insight into how both religions functioned > within the area. > > The Police Barracks was in those times in Crab Apple Lane and by the way is > Barbara another researcher of this area - is Barabara alright and has anyone > heard from her of late? > > > Now there are two grave yards up Crab Apple Lane you pass the modern Aghold > and you think no good looking there no headstones, but they have at > sometime been flattened, and you will need to carry a probe and a knife to > cut the matting of grass from around the stone, and when you have finished > doing this please be kind enough to roll the grass back it appears to be > preserving the stones. > > Then you continue on down this lane ( remember this little black duck > cannot read a map) for what seems like a dead end until you come to a cross > road, but when you come to this cross road you have gone too far, see what I > mean, so on your way down to this cross road you need to be watching on your > right for a hidden sign that says Aghowle, and turn down this lane, mind you > close all gates going in and out - always leave as you find, and you will > not annoy the locals, in Aghowle is both religions buried. everyone who is > doing Fitzies clearances would need to check both these graveyards. > > > (Side entry)Oh my goodness I hope that tractor is smaller than it looks cos > its a narrow road we are on > > > Then as we return down past modern but old Aghold, there is a cross road and > you then cross this to find the modern grave yards of this area. > > Lots of people in the Fitzwilliam times would not have had > headstones..........there are hardly any parish registers to be found and > when you do find them there is hardly any records. > > I also had noted how many of these people died on the road to leaving > Ireland ( I hate to think on that one) > > > Also in a side note* I wonder how many of these people were buried > elsewhere and not directly within this area? > > Interesting I didnt know this today I note this in this journal > > William Wainright Manager of Wentworth Estates ( Carnew All Saints Church) > Also if you are going to be looking at Graveyards you will need to look at > at least about 21 in the area .........good exercise. > > Oh by the way if you want to go to the Yew Tree graveyard you must get > permission from the owners he was obliging when we called many moons ago it > may have changed hands now. > > Oh and there is the graveyard that I could not name and if anyone dies > laughing here today then so be it. > > I had the task of asking himself over the phone he was in Ireland what this > grave yard was named, I knew where it was, in my head anyway, and he said > sorry Fred ( thats me) I dont know where you mean, mind you this was at > least 6 years after the trip there, and I said of course you know it, that > was the one with the phone box on the corner that super man was working in, > well I meant the men from the phone company, as it was freezing and he had > no shirt on, see I knew where it was, girls. > So we haggled on about it some more until I said theres a school near > it --- okay its Crosspatrick now you try finding it from that description. > > > Mullinacuff Old graveyard names > Bishop, Bourke, Bourne ,Byrne, Brough, Chapman, Coogan, Cooper, Cundaragh, > Donahue, Dowzer, Freany, Harris, Hopkins, Ireland, Kelly, Keoghoe, > Leburn,.Leyburn,Manning, Mernaugh, Prendergast, Sumers and oh those Tooles > are there also, Tomkins, Wall and Willoughby > > And in following mails I will give you some more names of the people buried > in these graveyards that we have been in and out of, and some I am not even > game enough to ask himself what name they are now, these days I have a map > that I can use with the graveyards ringed in bright red, I wonder who did > that for me? > > > Cheers for now > > Cara > > > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >
Marvellous info Cara - bless your ? memory or skill in keeping notes.. A little more on Yew Tree - a local committee were trying to establish 'right of way' to the grave yard which as you know is located at the top of a field on farmland. This was being done in conjunction with Wicklow Co Co. The Yew Tree I understand has been declared a 'national monument' as a ...bulaun .... (baptismal font) was discovered and some other items - now in the museum I think. You may have record of a few Kidd memorial stones there. By the way I visited the old graveyard in Preban recently but could not find any headstones for Blakes. Is there a Buriel Register record somewhere ? Cheers Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, May 21, 2009 5:59 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] FITZWILLIAM YET AGAIN > Ballynultagh is up a side street from Shillalegh is the best way for me to > describe it, > and if one is researching the Fitzwilliam Clearance people you will need > lots of time and patience.
Cara - this posting on the area around Ballynultagh and associated graveyards is amazing and so much appreciated. Thank you! Sharon Kavanagh ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, May 20, 2009 9:59 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] FITZWILLIAM YET AGAIN > Ballynultagh is up a side street from Shillalegh is the best way for me to > describe it, > and if one is researching the Fitzwilliam Clearance people you will need > lots of time and patience......