Hi Mike All of this information is just a shot in the dark. I have nothing more to go on other than the fact that my family (Byrne) came from the Fitzwilliam Estate in Co Wicklow in 1847. If indeed your family had an estate there is no chance of a connection to this bunch but here goes. There were Cullens and Fitzpatricks living near my Byrne family in Ireland and where they settled in Canada. They are all fairly common names - Byrne is the most common surname in Wicklow. Our bunch settled in Ontario and some of the children moved to Ogdensburg NY area with their families in the late 1800s, to work on the lake boats. One of the Byrne grand-daughters married a Matthew Cullen circa 1905. My great grandmother was a Fitzpatrick but her family was from Co Cavan I believe. You could check Griffiths Valuation which is online. I have some FW estate papers from one or two townlands for 1860 and earlier. They do not provide wives or childrens names, just numbers of sons and daughters but it gives the occupation of the father. If he was something other than a farmer it could be a lead. I could send them to you offline if you like. It's from a very very small area and if they happened to be from there it would be quite a coincidence. However, that's how I found my bunch. If they lived near the border of Co Carlow you might find some baptism records in the Parish records of Clonegal which are online. My family lived in Wicklow but went to church in Clonegal, Co Carlow just a few miles from their home place. As an aside I now have relatives living in Baldwin, Maryland, near Baltimore. They are a Byrne/Burns connection but have a different family name now. Our extended family uses every variation of the spelling of the original Byrne. Ann Burns Ottawa ON Canada Message: 1 Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:25:25 -0500 From: "Mike & Betsy Johnson" <breadman4@verizon.net> Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Fitzpatrick, Cullen, Burns from Co. Wicklow to Washington, D.C. To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <DC20EFD6BAE24ECB88E9B4004CB291BF@OwnerPC> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In Search Of....... Fitzpatrick, Cullen, and Burns families... James Fitzpatrick (my great-great-grandmother), born Nov 1846 in County Wicklow, Ireland, and died Mar 1930 in Washington, D.C. He immigrated to America in 1857 (per U.S. Census records). He was married to Katherine Cullen about 1879 in Washington, D.C.. They were Catholic, but no marriage/church record has been found. Per family, they attended St. Aloysius and later St. James Catholic Churches. Living children were Mary A., William Aloysius, Elizabeth Agnes (my great-grandmother), and James Joseph. Three to five additional children did not survive beyond birth, have birth records for three, but 1900 Census indicates nine total children.

I would love to compare notes with any of the women on the Wicklow website who have had their mtDNA tested and/or full Autosomal DNA test. Also, expanding my search through the maternal line for daughters of Mary Ann BROWNRIGG and William Alexander McMillen: Maria McMillen, Francis A. McMillen (married METZGER), Carrie S. McMillen, and Mary M. McMillen (married Weatherby). Any daughters or granddaughters or g-granddaughters of these women should have the same mtDNA as I do and it might be a good place to compare notes on the Wicklow line. Oh, and HAPPY NEW YEAR....just a bit late, everyone! m Mary Villalba SS United States Conservancy Secretary, Board of Directors (303) 290-8415 Tele P. O. Box 6569 Denver, CO 80206

Do you have birthdates for any of the daughters, or a rough timeline? Terri Alcocki Vancouver Island -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Mary Villalba Sent: Sunday, January 16, 2011 9:11 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Cross reference mtDNA with Wicklow I would love to compare notes with any of the women on the Wicklow website who have had their mtDNA tested and/or full Autosomal DNA test. Also, expanding my search through the maternal line for daughters of Mary Ann BROWNRIGG and William Alexander McMillen: Maria McMillen, Francis A. McMillen (married METZGER), Carrie S. McMillen, and Mary M. McMillen (married Weatherby). Any daughters or granddaughters or g-granddaughters of these women should have the same mtDNA as I do and it might be a good place to compare notes on the Wicklow line. Oh, and HAPPY NEW YEAR....just a bit late, everyone! m Mary Villalba SS United States Conservancy Secretary, Board of Directors (303) 290-8415 Tele P. O. Box 6569 Denver, CO 80206 *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Ann, You may have contacted the wrong person as your email was addressed to Mike, however I am pursuing the Short/Byrne family from Glendalough and finally Kilegar/Keelogue before the emigrated to Australia. Interestingly they emigrated with the Cullen family and some marriages took place between the Byrnes and Cullens. James Short b? married Anne Byrne b30.01.1824, married in Glendalough 08/02/1850, emigrated to Australia with family 1881. Good luck with your search, seems the Irish connection is a bit of a conundrum. Thanks for the search tips. Good luck with your quest. Regards June. On 16 January 2011 23:54, Ann Burns <ann.burns@rogers.com> wrote: > Hi Mike > > All of this information is just a shot in the dark. I have nothing more to > go on > other than the fact that my family (Byrne) came from the Fitzwilliam Estate > in > Co Wicklow in 1847. If indeed your family had an estate there is no chance > of a > connection to this bunch but here goes. > > There were Cullens and Fitzpatricks living near my Byrne family in Ireland > and > where they settled in Canada. They are all fairly common names - Byrne is > the > most common surname in Wicklow. Our bunch settled in Ontario and some of > the > children moved to Ogdensburg NY area with their families in the late 1800s, > to > work on the lake boats. One of the Byrne grand-daughters married a Matthew > Cullen circa 1905. My great grandmother was a Fitzpatrick but her family > was > from Co Cavan I believe. > > You could check Griffiths Valuation which is online. I have some FW estate > papers from one or two townlands for 1860 and earlier. They do not provide > wives > or childrens names, just numbers of sons and daughters but it gives the > occupation of the father. If he was something other than a farmer it could > be a > lead. I could send them to you offline if you like. It's from a very very > small > area and if they happened to be from there it would be quite a coincidence. > However, that's how I found my bunch. > > If they lived near the border of Co Carlow you might find some baptism > records > in the Parish records of Clonegal which are online. My family lived in > Wicklow > but went to church in Clonegal, Co Carlow just a few miles from their home > place. > > As an aside I now have relatives living in Baldwin, Maryland, near > Baltimore. > They are a Byrne/Burns connection but have a different family name now. Our > extended family uses every variation of the spelling of the original Byrne. > > Ann Burns > Ottawa ON Canada > > > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 15 Jan 2011 12:25:25 -0500 > From: "Mike & Betsy Johnson" <breadman4@verizon.net> > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Fitzpatrick, Cullen, Burns from Co. Wicklow to > Washington, D.C. > To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <DC20EFD6BAE24ECB88E9B4004CB291BF@OwnerPC> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > In Search Of....... > > Fitzpatrick, Cullen, and Burns families... > > James Fitzpatrick (my great-great-grandmother), born Nov 1846 in County > Wicklow, > Ireland, and died Mar 1930 in Washington, D.C. He immigrated to America in > 1857 > (per U.S. Census records). He was married to Katherine Cullen about 1879 in > Washington, D.C.. They were Catholic, but no marriage/church record has > been > found. Per family, they attended St. Aloysius and later St. James Catholic > Churches. Living children were Mary A., William Aloysius, Elizabeth Agnes > (my > great-grandmother), and James Joseph. Three to five additional children did > not > survive beyond birth, have birth records for three, but 1900 Census > indicates > nine total children. > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

As you can see I have left nothing of the previous mails in this mail...........I would appreciate it if you all took the time to do this also, in as much just leave in the mail was is relative to you mail. As it is the Cullen Byrne etc mail has become so congested no one would be able to decipher it at all. So may I begin the mail again by asking some questions 1- Has a passenger list been found with these names on it proving when they left Ireland and from where? 2- The religion has been stated as Roman Catholic 3- I became a little lost on whether James Fitzpatrick was a man or a woman 4- What did they work at in their new place of living 5- Could children be listed with full names and ages of births 6-1857 is around a time when a lot of people were leaving certain areas as work was scarce, and some folk went to England before branching out and moving on to Australia, or Canada, New Zealand and even Tasmania. 7- No passenger registers exist for anyone who left Ireland in this time frame, as they were place aboard a steam packet, or used as human ballast heading to anywhere, destination unknown. Or they caught a mail boat from Dublin and crossed to Liverpool and such and went from there to their new homes. 8-And although this seems a little bit pedantic it does fine tune the search a little more 9- Feel free to share an email with who ever you like, but at least those returning to the list need to have some of the body of the mail removed. 10 - Change the Subject line to suit the body of the mail please. Sorry to be a bother but in the past these sort of mails have only ever been (proven over time) a wast of space in the archived material, and most people simply delete a mail that has no interest to them so therefore you need to make you Subject, direct and eye catching and be held together by the content of the email being posted. Cheers for now Cara Admin I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter