Dear Cara, We are BROWNRIGG researchers are working together, we have a group for BROWNRIGGS, but we are in Cos Wicklow and Wexford both, and don't ignore other opportunities. I think you called for a roll call recently, didn't you? <Grin> Jeff Jernegan ----- Original Message ----- From: "History-Family Researchers" <cara_links@yahoo.com> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:30 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] BROWNRIGG >I cannot understand the reason why the Brownrigg > researchers are not collating their material together, > it has been a well researched family to date. > > Why are they not all helping one another? > > Mary this is no reflection on your research just a > genuine wonder from Cara? > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around > http://mail.yahoo.com > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry we couldn't have that cuppa coffee. Ileft returning your call too long. You were at Kilrush COI, I see. I had the opportunity to attend services twice there with my cousins in the BROWNRIGG, LEVINGSTONE & WHITE families last month. I just arrived home yesterday and will soon post a report on my BROWNRIGG researches on several boards. Jeff Jernegan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "History-Family Researchers" <cara_links@yahoo.com> > To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:34 PM > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] RED ROSES AT DAWN > > >> >> One of the most beautiful sights to see whilst walking >> in a fellow researchers footsteps, was to see, red >> roses placed on all the BROWNRIGG graves that were >> there, great feeling to note that JJ- had taken the >> time to locate and place these roses on his relatives >> graves. >> >> >> >> Mary you will love to see them when you arrive, hope >> to meet up with you. >> >> Cara >

Hi, Jeff: I was really hoping that you'd still be in Ireland when I get there....that was very sweet to put the roses on the Brownrigg stones!!! Can't wait to hear what you've found, and if there is something specific that I should look for when I get there in Nov. m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: Jeff Jernegan<mailto:jeff@jernegan.net> To: irl-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:57 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Fw: RED ROSES AT DAWN Sorry we couldn't have that cuppa coffee. Ileft returning your call too long. You were at Kilrush COI, I see. I had the opportunity to attend services twice there with my cousins in the BROWNRIGG, LEVINGSTONE & WHITE families last month. I just arrived home yesterday and will soon post a report on my BROWNRIGG researches on several boards. Jeff Jernegan > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "History-Family Researchers" <cara_links@yahoo.com<mailto:cara_links@yahoo.com>> > To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 1:34 PM > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] RED ROSES AT DAWN > > >> >> One of the most beautiful sights to see whilst walking >> in a fellow researchers footsteps, was to see, red >> roses placed on all the BROWNRIGG graves that were >> there, great feeling to note that JJ- had taken the >> time to locate and place these roses on his relatives >> graves. >> >> >> >> Mary you will love to see them when you arrive, hope >> to meet up with you. >> >> Cara > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

At least this is getting to be a lively discussion! I have learned that several letters capitalized are the abbreviation for an actual town and that you in Ireland are familar with this format. And I will capitalize all names, and yes, I do appreciate any help. John ROE married Mary Ann KEELEY about 1838 in Ireland. They were born about 1812-1814. Julia KEELEY c. 1824 and Bridget KEELEY left Ireland unmarried about 1855 for America. They are Mary Ann's sisters. William IRELAND was born about 1850 in Northern Ireland. I believe he married a KEELEY female in Ireland. Enniskerry is the location are supposed to have lived. I have no family histories before these marriages. John ROE's children all born in Ireland are Robert c. 1842 Nicholas c. 1844 Julia c 1848 John and Elizabeth Frances (twins) c 1850 Edward T. "Ned" c.1853 William IRELAND's children born in Ireland are Frederick William c.1858 Emily Frances c 1856 KEELEY might be spelled KEALY but it is not known which is correct. All three families are Church of Ireland and not Catholic. Thanks! Bonnie

hi, Cara: we are, now, doing so...but there seems to be a snag at precisely the point where my g-g-g grandfather was born (abt.1785), and we can't determine whether the two families are joined by a father or uncle. I know that JJ was searching hard, but haven't heard an outcome, yet. hugs, m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: History-Family Researchers<mailto:cara_links@yahoo.com> To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:30 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] BROWNRIGG I cannot understand the reason why the Brownrigg researchers are not collating their material together, it has been a well researched family to date. Why are they not all helping one another? Mary this is no reflection on your research just a genuine wonder from Cara? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi, Cara: thanks....I'm so looking forward to catching up with you!!! Can't wait!! m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: History-Family Researchers<mailto:cara_links@yahoo.com> To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 11:34 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] RED ROSES AT DAWN One of the most beautiful sights to see whilst walking in a fellow researchers footsteps, was to see, red roses placed on all the BROWNRIGG graves that were there, great feeling to note that JJ- had taken the time to locate and place these roses on his relatives graves. Mary you will love to see them when you arrive, hope to meet up with you. Cara __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com<http://mail.yahoo.com/> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

One of the most beautiful sights to see whilst walking in a fellow researchers footsteps, was to see, red roses placed on all the BROWNRIGG graves that were there, great feeling to note that JJ- had taken the time to locate and place these roses on his relatives graves. Mary you will love to see them when you arrive, hope to meet up with you. Cara __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

I cannot understand the reason why the Brownrigg researchers are not collating their material together, it has been a well researched family to date. Why are they not all helping one another? Mary this is no reflection on your research just a genuine wonder from Cara? __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Edward Keely married in 1790 in the parish of Avoca Co Wicklow Ireland Margaret Gethings No children found so far. John Gaffney married Mary Keely 27th October 1856 in Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland., Richard Ireland married Mary Johnson 6th October 1851 Aghold Co Wicklow Ireland and a unamed female was born 12/2/1868 in the Coolkenno Parish for them. William Wallace Ireland married Eliza Darley by Marriage licence bond in 1810 William Wallace Ireland married Mary Bryan and had a Lydia Mary Ireland 4/1/1868 in Newcastle Wicklow Ireland Benjamin Wallace Ireland married to Hannah Evans child known for this couple is Robert Wallace Ireland born 8/1/1868 in Newcastle Co Wicklow Ireland John Roe son of John and Elizabeth unknown was born 27/9/1763 Co Wexford Ireland ( parish unknown) and died Clarence Ontario Canada 2/4/1836 he then has a son John Roe- 1763 married Sarah Sherwood and they had John/William/Mary/Elizabeth/Sarah/Ann/John/Martha/Geroge/Robert/Catherine/Matthew and Peter the first John died in Ireland. Michael Keating married Margaret Roe 27th May 1827 in the Newbridge Parish (Avoca) Co Wicklow Ireland witnessed by John Cullen and Eliza Doyle Michael Roe married Margaret Byrne dont know where but there children I have located were baptised in Blessington Co Wicklow Ireland James Roe was born 5th Oct 1868 and Margaret Roe was born 17th Jan 1871 Miles Roe married Elizabeth Toole 12th Feb 1782 Avoca parish Co Wicklow Ireland witness to the wedding was George Roe and Andrew Lawrence. Richard John Roe married Anne Ryall in Bray Co Wicklow on the 27th April 1853 her father was Charles Ryall. Benjamin and Eizabeth Ireland owned land in Ballyhorsey Co Wicklow in 1876 he has 55-1-22 in extant land and valued at 69-00 pounds and she has 11-2-23 extant and valued at 11-00 pound. Henry Ireland oF Coolattin Co Wicklow Ireland shows with a prerogative will in 1726 I hope this helps as I am too far from my own office... to slip home and go through all my sources. All of the above is taken from CARA'S Data Base which has been researched by herself over the past ten years. Cheers Cara __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Tired of spam? Yahoo! Mail has the best spam protection around http://mail.yahoo.com

Now Bonnie, It's me again the one that bites!...Lol Now to start with let's get something sorted for you that will help everyone! You are mentioning Ireland as a name and also the country of. To avoid confusion in the posts you need to capitalise the name of IRELAND and leave the country as Ireland, likewise the names of ROE and KEELEY. This lets us know exactly where we are going. There was a ROE actually living in the town of NMK in the 1848-64 period as head of household who could be something to your ROE. It might be possible that your ROE was actually born in Wexford on a visit to the County or maybe his family were temporarily in the area working? Coincidence, maybe? Other Roes in Co.wexford number 54 as head of Household, in 15 locations what I would consider to be North Wexford, (that's North to me anyway) I live South of Wexford Town. 6 of these locations are in the Gorey area (nearest to Co. Wicklow) which is further North than the 10 in the area of Enniscorthy and one listed in Mountmellick. The other Roe's are identified as being further South of Enniscorthy (I am including New/Old Ross in this). What is really needed is someone local to Wicklow to go and find any marriages in the Registrars Office in Wicklow Town for your ROE/KEELEY/IRELAND names and have them cross referenced. Parish records for NMK (the Town of Newtown Mount Kennedy, Newtown Mountkennedy and Mounkennedy Demesne) come under the Parish of Newcastle Upper, which in turn, comes under the Roman Catholic Parish of Kilquade. And yes, there is ONE entry for a Robert ROE shown as living in the Town of Newtown Mountkennedy for the period of 1848-64. Births from August 1826 - June1855 then broken until Dec. 1861 - Feb. 1863. Marriages August 1826 - Sept.29th. 1862 then a break until Nov.4th. 1862 - Nov. 1880. These records are available on film no.6478 at the NLI or possibly any one of your big library's in the States/Canada etc.. The records for the other place (as I like to call it), The Wicklow Family Heritage Centre, show they have records from 1826 - 1900 for all categories of entries, they "BORROWED" the Parish registers, hence the extended dateline. BUT, they do not mention the breaks in the records. THERE ARE NO DEATH OR BURIAL RECORDS ON FILM. What you now need to do, is forget all what you are posting and edit it all down to actual names and dates and not mention your American information. WE only need to know WHO, WHAT, WHERE and WHEN in Ireland. American research really confuses the hell out of us here, most of what I find personally, is that you are all being ripped off over there with false information from Money grabbers who know nothing about Irish research on the basis that most of you there will never, ever, get over to Ireland to do any research! YES, I do shoot from the LIP! I BITE, but with soft gums! Now concentrate on what YOU want from Ireland, without all that American stuff! slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman. irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > I am so happy to at least find a discussion of my Roe/Ireland/Keeley post, > but your "learning curves" are far past mine. I don't understand the letters > used relative to towns and addresses. I do see that it was possible about > 1830-1840 or so that a Roe married a Keeley, Keeley females went to the US about > 1855, a Keeley most likely married an Ireland about then, and they all began > to leave Ireland and met up, eventually living in Pembroke, Ontario by 1890. > > At this point I think my searching in Ireland is only during 1830-1865 for > these families only. With only one reference to Wexford, the birth of Robert > Roe about 1840 on his marriage registration, I think that most of what happened > was in or around Enniskerry. > > Going only on the ship's lists, there are a lot of John Roe's. There are > over 10 William Ireland's with two in Norwalk, Connecticut. Nicholas seems to > be the oddball first name, Nicholas Roe born about 1844. John Roe Jr is > named after his father, but he is not the first born son, Robert is. Julia Roe > is named after her aunt, Julia Keeley. There is an Emily Ireland and Julia's > daughter is also Emily. Frances is the middle name twice. So. . . I wish > I was looking for an unusual name, but apparently not. > > Most of you are experts in Irish research compared to my fledgling posts. I > have a map of Ireland, the names, and I live in California. I guess the > dream post is to get a response from an Ireland or Keeley or Roe living around > Enniskerry. Hit me over the head and point me in the right direction. You > guys sound like you are light years ahead of me. > > Bonnie > in California > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

I'm getting a huge kick out of Cyril; teeth, gums and all! It has been a while since any talk of BROWNRIGG has come up and I'm still trying to tie, what seem to be two lines, together. I'm also hoping to meet at least one relative when I get over there in November. So, Cyril.....any leads?? thanks, m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: cnews@eircom.net<mailto:cnews@eircom.net> To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, September 03, 2006 3:05 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] my search and my present learning curve Now Bonnie, It's me again the one that bites!...Lol Now to start with let's get something sorted for you that will help everyone! You are mentioning Ireland as a name and also the country of. To avoid confusion in the posts you need to capitalise the name of IRELAND and leave the country as Ireland, likewise the names of ROE and KEELEY. This lets us know exactly where we are going. There was a ROE actually living in the town of NMK in the 1848-64 period as head of household who could be something to your ROE. It might be possible that your ROE was actually born in Wexford on a visit to the County or maybe his family were temporarily in the area working? Coincidence, maybe? Other Roes in Co.wexford number 54 as head of Household, in 15 locations what I would consider to be North Wexford, (that's North to me anyway) I live South of Wexford Town. 6 of these locations are in the Gorey area (nearest to Co. Wicklow) which is further North than the 10 in the area of Enniscorthy and one listed in Mountmellick. The other Roe's are identified as being further South of Enniscorthy (I am including New/Old Ross in this). What is really needed is someone local to Wicklow to go and find any marriages in the Registrars Office in Wicklow Town for your ROE/KEELEY/IRELAND names and have them cross referenced. Parish records for NMK (the Town of Newtown Mount Kennedy, Newtown Mountkennedy and Mounkennedy Demesne) come under the Parish of Newcastle Upper, which in turn, comes under the Roman Catholic Parish of Kilquade. And yes, there is ONE entry for a Robert ROE shown as living in the Town of Newtown Mountkennedy for the period of 1848-64. Births from August 1826 - June1855 then broken until Dec. 1861 - Feb. 1863. Marriages August 1826 - Sept.29th. 1862 then a break until Nov.4th. 1862 - Nov. 1880. These records are available on film no.6478 at the NLI or possibly any one of your big library's in the States/Canada etc.. The records for the other place (as I like to call it), The Wicklow Family Heritage Centre, show they have records from 1826 - 1900 for all categories of entries, they "BORROWED" the Parish registers, hence the extended dateline. BUT, they do not mention the breaks in the records. THERE ARE NO DEATH OR BURIAL RECORDS ON FILM. What you now need to do, is forget all what you are posting and edit it all down to actual names and dates and not mention your American information. WE only need to know WHO, WHAT, WHERE and WHEN in Ireland. American research really confuses the hell out of us here, most of what I find personally, is that you are all being ripped off over there with false information from Money grabbers who know nothing about Irish research on the basis that most of you there will never, ever, get over to Ireland to do any research! YES, I do shoot from the LIP! I BITE, but with soft gums! Now concentrate on what YOU want from Ireland, without all that American stuff! slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman. irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> wrote: > > I am so happy to at least find a discussion of my Roe/Ireland/Keeley post, > but your "learning curves" are far past mine. I don't understand the letters > used relative to towns and addresses. I do see that it was possible about > 1830-1840 or so that a Roe married a Keeley, Keeley females went to the US about > 1855, a Keeley most likely married an Ireland about then, and they all began > to leave Ireland and met up, eventually living in Pembroke, Ontario by 1890. > > At this point I think my searching in Ireland is only during 1830-1865 for > these families only. With only one reference to Wexford, the birth of Robert > Roe about 1840 on his marriage registration, I think that most of what happened > was in or around Enniskerry. > > Going only on the ship's lists, there are a lot of John Roe's. There are > over 10 William Ireland's with two in Norwalk, Connecticut. Nicholas seems to > be the oddball first name, Nicholas Roe born about 1844. John Roe Jr is > named after his father, but he is not the first born son, Robert is. Julia Roe > is named after her aunt, Julia Keeley. There is an Emily Ireland and Julia's > daughter is also Emily. Frances is the middle name twice. So. . I wish > I was looking for an unusual name, but apparently not. > > Most of you are experts in Irish research compared to my fledgling posts. I > have a map of Ireland, the names, and I live in California. I guess the > dream post is to get a response from an Ireland or Keeley or Roe living around > Enniskerry. Hit me over the head and point me in the right direction. You > guys sound like you are light years ahead of me. > > Bonnie > in California > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts<http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts> ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am so happy to at least find a discussion of my Roe/Ireland/Keeley post, but your "learning curves" are far past mine. I don't understand the letters used relative to towns and addresses. I do see that it was possible about 1830-1840 or so that a Roe married a Keeley, Keeley females went to the US about 1855, a Keeley most likely married an Ireland about then, and they all began to leave Ireland and met up, eventually living in Pembroke, Ontario by 1890. At this point I think my searching in Ireland is only during 1830-1865 for these families only. With only one reference to Wexford, the birth of Robert Roe about 1840 on his marriage registration, I think that most of what happened was in or around Enniskerry. Going only on the ship's lists, there are a lot of John Roe's. There are over 10 William Ireland's with two in Norwalk, Connecticut. Nicholas seems to be the oddball first name, Nicholas Roe born about 1844. John Roe Jr is named after his father, but he is not the first born son, Robert is. Julia Roe is named after her aunt, Julia Keeley. There is an Emily Ireland and Julia's daughter is also Emily. Frances is the middle name twice. So. . . I wish I was looking for an unusual name, but apparently not. Most of you are experts in Irish research compared to my fledgling posts. I have a map of Ireland, the names, and I live in California. I guess the dream post is to get a response from an Ireland or Keeley or Roe living around Enniskerry. Hit me over the head and point me in the right direction. You guys sound like you are light years ahead of me. Bonnie in California

Mistakes I know a lot about. Paul -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cnews@eircom.net Sent: Saturday, September 02, 2006 2:48 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow Lol! Let's just say then, "that the waters of Genealogical research will always be muddied" eh? Far easier. I do make mistakes sometimes even BIG ONE'S. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman. irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Apparently the confusion is mine. > > Thanx, > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cnews@eircom.net > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:28 PM > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow > > I'm sorry Paul, Cara and the list. > > Indeed Paul I see what you are meaning here, yes it looks as clear as mud > doesn't it? > > "Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of > Kilcoole in the PLU of Rathdrum. > > The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > Deaths: No burial records on film". > > It does seem confusing if taken in the literal sense, what I meant to be > intended was that the The Rathdrum "Parish Records" (on film) date from: > > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > Deaths: No burial records on film". > > Sorry if it seemed to mislead anyone. > > > slan > Cyril Newsome > Loch Garman... > > (Well caught Paul, I didn't even notice it myself, Lol!) > > > > > irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > Paul, > > > > Re-read the mail -- Cyril has simply stated it is in > > the PLU of Rathdrum, most details are also available > > from the SeanRuad.com Irl data base available online. > > > > Rathdrum workhouse records are simply locked up in > > that dreadful place but available on micro film at the > > NLI Dublin--- > > > > so simply re read the details below > > > > Cara > > > > --- Paul <pdowling7@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > What kind of records are you quoting from? I wasn't > > > aware of PLU records. > > > > > > Thanx, > > > > > > Paul E. Dowling > > > Alan Ritchey, Inc. > > > 37 Runway Rd. > > > Levittown, PA 19057 > > > C215-779-9173 > > > F215-946-8996 > > > pdowling7@comcast.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > > Of cnews@eircom.net > > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:40 AM > > > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow > > > > > > Nice one Brendan. > > > > > > Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of > > > Kilcoole in the PLU of > > > Rathdrum. > > > > > > The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: > > > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > > > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > > > Deaths: No burial records on film > > > > > > All this information can be found on film no.6476 at > > > the NLI in Dublin. > > > > > > You can of course go to The Wicklow Family History > > > Centre but I would advise > > > you to read back through the archives on this issue, > > > otherwise see: > > > http://www.wicklow.ie/Genealogy/ > > > > > > I would recommend that everyone takes a look at a > > > currency converter before > > > going down this road try this one: > > > http://www.xe.com/ucc/ > > > > > > It's the one I use all the time, but make sure you > > > have some sedatives to > > > hand when visiting the Wicklow Family History site! > > > > > > (Remember! EVERY BIT of information you send them is > > > kept on record FOR > > > THEIR USE to sell on to others later!). > > > > > > > > > slan > > > > > > Cyril Newsome > > > Loch Garman > > > (If at first you don't succeed, GET A PARROT WITH > > > TEETH!) > > > > > > > > > > > > firstname.lastname@ucd.ie, irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bonnie > > > > > > > > I live near Newtownmountkennedy and there is a > > > Ballyhorsey about 1 mile > > > > north of the village, its another 5 miles to > > > Enniskerry. > > > > > > > > There are Roe/Rowes about th NTMKY (Calary, > > > Roundwood) > > > > > > > > Brendan > > > > On 31 Aug 2006 at 19:15, Trunthsams@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > Today I found a reference to a William W Ireland > > > between 1826 and 1850 > > > on > > > > > ancestry. I have no clue if it is an Ireland I > > > am looking for since > > > the William > > > > > Ireland I am looking for was born about 1848 and > > > the source date is > > > 1837. > > > > > But. . . this could be his father, maybe. The > > > location is near N.T. Mt > > > > > > > > Kennedy and the address is Ballyorsey. Could > > > this person be close > > > enough to meet > > > > > someone from Enniskerry? I am trying to > > > connect this William Ireland > > > to a > > > > > possible marriage to a Keeley and less likely to > > > a Roe. I am guessing > > > that the > > > > > father is married to a Keeley female and they > > > are the parents of William > > > > > > > > Ireland who immigrated as a widower to > > > Connecticut in 1880. He left > > > behind two > > > > > children, 17 and 23, who didn't immigrate until > > > 1883. > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be several Ireland families in > > > the Norwalk, Connecticut > > > area > > > > > by 1900. > > > > > > > > > > Bonnie > > > > > in California > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > > email to > > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > Brendan Dixon > > > > Computing Services, > > > > UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 > > > > Ireland > > > > Vox:353 1 7162008 > > > > Fax:353 1 2837077 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > to > > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net > > > property > > > Sign up for email alerts now > > > http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > to > > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? 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Lol! Let's just say then, "that the waters of Genealogical research will always be muddied" eh? Far easier. I do make mistakes sometimes even BIG ONE'S. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman. irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Apparently the confusion is mine. > > Thanx, > > Paul > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cnews@eircom.net > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:28 PM > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow > > I'm sorry Paul, Cara and the list. > > Indeed Paul I see what you are meaning here, yes it looks as clear as mud > doesn't it? > > "Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of > Kilcoole in the PLU of Rathdrum. > > The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > Deaths: No burial records on film". > > It does seem confusing if taken in the literal sense, what I meant to be > intended was that the The Rathdrum "Parish Records" (on film) date from: > > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > Deaths: No burial records on film". > > Sorry if it seemed to mislead anyone. > > > slan > Cyril Newsome > Loch Garman... > > (Well caught Paul, I didn't even notice it myself, Lol!) > > > > > irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > Paul, > > > > Re-read the mail -- Cyril has simply stated it is in > > the PLU of Rathdrum, most details are also available > > from the SeanRuad.com Irl data base available online. > > > > Rathdrum workhouse records are simply locked up in > > that dreadful place but available on micro film at the > > NLI Dublin--- > > > > so simply re read the details below > > > > Cara > > > > --- Paul <pdowling7@comcast.net> wrote: > > > > > What kind of records are you quoting from? I wasn't > > > aware of PLU records. > > > > > > Thanx, > > > > > > Paul E. Dowling > > > Alan Ritchey, Inc. > > > 37 Runway Rd. > > > Levittown, PA 19057 > > > C215-779-9173 > > > F215-946-8996 > > > pdowling7@comcast.net > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > > > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > > > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > > Of cnews@eircom.net > > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:40 AM > > > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow > > > > > > Nice one Brendan. > > > > > > Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of > > > Kilcoole in the PLU of > > > Rathdrum. > > > > > > The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: > > > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > > > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > > > Deaths: No burial records on film > > > > > > All this information can be found on film no.6476 at > > > the NLI in Dublin. > > > > > > You can of course go to The Wicklow Family History > > > Centre but I would advise > > > you to read back through the archives on this issue, > > > otherwise see: > > > http://www.wicklow.ie/Genealogy/ > > > > > > I would recommend that everyone takes a look at a > > > currency converter before > > > going down this road try this one: > > > http://www.xe.com/ucc/ > > > > > > It's the one I use all the time, but make sure you > > > have some sedatives to > > > hand when visiting the Wicklow Family History site! > > > > > > (Remember! EVERY BIT of information you send them is > > > kept on record FOR > > > THEIR USE to sell on to others later!). > > > > > > > > > slan > > > > > > Cyril Newsome > > > Loch Garman > > > (If at first you don't succeed, GET A PARROT WITH > > > TEETH!) > > > > > > > > > > > > firstname.lastname@ucd.ie, irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > > > wrote: > > > > > > > > > > > Hi Bonnie > > > > > > > > I live near Newtownmountkennedy and there is a > > > Ballyhorsey about 1 mile > > > > north of the village, its another 5 miles to > > > Enniskerry. > > > > > > > > There are Roe/Rowes about th NTMKY (Calary, > > > Roundwood) > > > > > > > > Brendan > > > > On 31 Aug 2006 at 19:15, Trunthsams@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > > > Today I found a reference to a William W Ireland > > > between 1826 and 1850 > > > on > > > > > ancestry. I have no clue if it is an Ireland I > > > am looking for since > > > the William > > > > > Ireland I am looking for was born about 1848 and > > > the source date is > > > 1837. > > > > > But. . . this could be his father, maybe. The > > > location is near N.T. Mt > > > > > > > > Kennedy and the address is Ballyorsey. Could > > > this person be close > > > enough to meet > > > > > someone from Enniskerry? I am trying to > > > connect this William Ireland > > > to a > > > > > possible marriage to a Keeley and less likely to > > > a Roe. I am guessing > > > that the > > > > > father is married to a Keeley female and they > > > are the parents of William > > > > > > > > Ireland who immigrated as a widower to > > > Connecticut in 1880. He left > > > behind two > > > > > children, 17 and 23, who didn't immigrate until > > > 1883. > > > > > > > > > > There seems to be several Ireland families in > > > the Norwalk, Connecticut > > > area > > > > > by 1900. > > > > > > > > > > Bonnie > > > > > in California > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > > email to > > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > Brendan Dixon > > > > Computing Services, > > > > UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 > > > > Ireland > > > > Vox:353 1 7162008 > > > > Fax:353 1 2837077 > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > to > > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net > > > property > > > Sign up for email alerts now > > > http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > to > > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > > to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > > the body of the message > > > > > > > > > __________________________________________________ > > Do You Yahoo!? > > Tired of spam? 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Yes Paul, there are indeed records for the Workhouses, meticulosly kept, it's just a matter of getting your hands on them. For some strange reason the Irish are not very forthcoming in letting go of them, or anything in fact except for lots and lots of Dosh! (Money that is). slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman... irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > What kind of records are you quoting from? I wasn't aware of PLU records. > > Thanx, > > Paul E. Dowling > Alan Ritchey, Inc. > 37 Runway Rd. > Levittown, PA 19057 > C215-779-9173 > F215-946-8996 > pdowling7@comcast.net > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cnews@eircom.net > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:40 AM > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow > > Nice one Brendan. > > Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of Kilcoole in the PLU of > Rathdrum. > > The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > Deaths: No burial records on film > > All this information can be found on film no.6476 at the NLI in Dublin. > > You can of course go to The Wicklow Family History Centre but I would advise > you to read back through the archives on this issue, otherwise see: > http://www.wicklow.ie/Genealogy/ > > I would recommend that everyone takes a look at a currency converter before > going down this road try this one: > http://www.xe.com/ucc/ > > It's the one I use all the time, but make sure you have some sedatives to > hand when visiting the Wicklow Family History site! > > (Remember! EVERY BIT of information you send them is kept on record FOR > THEIR USE to sell on to others later!). > > > slan > > Cyril Newsome > Loch Garman > (If at first you don't succeed, GET A PARROT WITH TEETH!) > > > > firstname.lastname@ucd.ie, irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > Hi Bonnie > > > > I live near Newtownmountkennedy and there is a Ballyhorsey about 1 mile > > north of the village, its another 5 miles to Enniskerry. > > > > There are Roe/Rowes about th NTMKY (Calary, Roundwood) > > > > Brendan > > On 31 Aug 2006 at 19:15, Trunthsams@aol.com wrote: > > > > > Today I found a reference to a William W Ireland between 1826 and 1850 > on > > > ancestry. I have no clue if it is an Ireland I am looking for since > the William > > > Ireland I am looking for was born about 1848 and the source date is > 1837. > > > But. . . this could be his father, maybe. The location is near N.T. Mt > > > > Kennedy and the address is Ballyorsey. Could this person be close > enough to meet > > > someone from Enniskerry? I am trying to connect this William Ireland > to a > > > possible marriage to a Keeley and less likely to a Roe. I am guessing > that the > > > father is married to a Keeley female and they are the parents of William > > > > Ireland who immigrated as a widower to Connecticut in 1880. He left > behind two > > > children, 17 and 23, who didn't immigrate until 1883. > > > > > > There seems to be several Ireland families in the Norwalk, Connecticut > area > > > by 1900. > > > > > > Bonnie > > > in California > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > Brendan Dixon > > Computing Services, > > UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 > > Ireland > > Vox:353 1 7162008 > > Fax:353 1 2837077 > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property > Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

I'm sorry Paul, Cara and the list. Indeed Paul I see what you are meaning here, yes it looks as clear as mud doesn't it? "Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of Kilcoole in the PLU of Rathdrum. The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 Deaths: No burial records on film". It does seem confusing if taken in the literal sense, what I meant to be intended was that the The Rathdrum "Parish Records" (on film) date from: Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 Deaths: No burial records on film". Sorry if it seemed to mislead anyone. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman... (Well caught Paul, I didn't even notice it myself, Lol!) irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Paul, > > Re-read the mail -- Cyril has simply stated it is in > the PLU of Rathdrum, most details are also available > from the SeanRuad.com Irl data base available online. > > Rathdrum workhouse records are simply locked up in > that dreadful place but available on micro film at the > NLI Dublin--- > > so simply re read the details below > > Cara > > --- Paul <pdowling7@comcast.net> wrote: > > > What kind of records are you quoting from? I wasn't > > aware of PLU records. > > > > Thanx, > > > > Paul E. Dowling > > Alan Ritchey, Inc. > > 37 Runway Rd. > > Levittown, PA 19057 > > C215-779-9173 > > F215-946-8996 > > pdowling7@comcast.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > Of cnews@eircom.net > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:40 AM > > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow > > > > Nice one Brendan. > > > > Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of > > Kilcoole in the PLU of > > Rathdrum. > > > > The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: > > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > > Deaths: No burial records on film > > > > All this information can be found on film no.6476 at > > the NLI in Dublin. > > > > You can of course go to The Wicklow Family History > > Centre but I would advise > > you to read back through the archives on this issue, > > otherwise see: > > http://www.wicklow.ie/Genealogy/ > > > > I would recommend that everyone takes a look at a > > currency converter before > > going down this road try this one: > > http://www.xe.com/ucc/ > > > > It's the one I use all the time, but make sure you > > have some sedatives to > > hand when visiting the Wicklow Family History site! > > > > (Remember! EVERY BIT of information you send them is > > kept on record FOR > > THEIR USE to sell on to others later!). > > > > > > slan > > > > Cyril Newsome > > Loch Garman > > (If at first you don't succeed, GET A PARROT WITH > > TEETH!) > > > > > > > > firstname.lastname@ucd.ie, irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Bonnie > > > > > > I live near Newtownmountkennedy and there is a > > Ballyhorsey about 1 mile > > > north of the village, its another 5 miles to > > Enniskerry. > > > > > > There are Roe/Rowes about th NTMKY (Calary, > > Roundwood) > > > > > > Brendan > > > On 31 Aug 2006 at 19:15, Trunthsams@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > Today I found a reference to a William W Ireland > > between 1826 and 1850 > > on > > > > ancestry. I have no clue if it is an Ireland I > > am looking for since > > the William > > > > Ireland I am looking for was born about 1848 and > > the source date is > > 1837. > > > > But. . . this could be his father, maybe. The > > location is near N.T. Mt > > > > > > Kennedy and the address is Ballyorsey. Could > > this person be close > > enough to meet > > > > someone from Enniskerry? I am trying to > > connect this William Ireland > > to a > > > > possible marriage to a Keeley and less likely to > > a Roe. I am guessing > > that the > > > > father is married to a Keeley female and they > > are the parents of William > > > > > > Ireland who immigrated as a widower to > > Connecticut in 1880. He left > > behind two > > > > children, 17 and 23, who didn't immigrate until > > 1883. > > > > > > > > There seems to be several Ireland families in > > the Norwalk, Connecticut > > area > > > > by 1900. > > > > > > > > Bonnie > > > > in California > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email to > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Brendan Dixon > > > Computing Services, > > > UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 > > > Ireland > > > Vox:353 1 7162008 > > > Fax:353 1 2837077 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net > > property > > Sign up for email alerts now > > http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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I don't know Bonnie, you have me stumped? "William Ireland went to Connecticut and was a water inspector. So farming most likely is not what he did in Ireland. John Roe went to Canada and farmed from day 1". I went from being a blue collar worker into Politics then came home to Ireland and bought a farm and do research? Totally changed my lifestyle and employment before retiring. You say it is only your theory? Many people left Ireland to set up home overseas leaving families behind and then creating new lifestyles for themselves and never bothering to make contact with their families back home. It was a new life and who would go looking for them. The States is big enough to lose yourself in anyway? Brendan is from the area you are asking about and he should know better than me. I only give the facts as I know them (open to interpretation) as always as is everything. We can only advise you on what you want, from local knowledge, we live here and that is the fact of the matter so we can only give you what we know. Men marry women from all over the place irrespective of distance, people travelled around even in those dark ages here in Ireland. Trying to make possible a theory isn't proving A FACT! you are only creating problems for yourself by believing what you want to believe and not the facts. "Maybe Ballyorsey is the name of a house?". Brendan told you that the townland is called "BALLYHORSEY" and the names of the people living in it! I gave you the exact size of the place and it's location in relation to the Parish, PLU etc.. If you choose to ignore this information then I cannot see how we can be of further help to you, you are ignoring what I consider to be sound information. You WANT your information to be true as you see it, but are ignoring the facts! slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman... irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Cyril and others, > I rechecked the ancestry.com page I found - > William W. Ireland > address: Ballyorsey > Town: near N.T. Mt Kennedy > County/Colonial: Co. Wicklow Ireland. > > The source info: Subscribed to, A Topographical Dictionary of Ireland. > Source date 1837. > > Still room for typos! > > I am just trying to make possible my theory that an Ireland male could have > married a Keeley female about the time to have at least two children in the > 1850-1860's, Fredrick William and Emily Frances Ireland. The mother must have > died and William went to the US in 1880 with the children following a few years > later. Fred and Emily state that they are first cousins to the children of > Julia Keeley. Still by 1891 Fred and Emily are boarders living in Canada with > the cousins and not with William in Norwalk, Connecticut. William, though, > remarried in 1884 and had a daughter Elizabeth Susan soon after. > > Maybe Ballyorsey is the name of a house? Nine miles is close enough for a > connection to Enniskerry and its surrounding area. Just trying to see if the > Keeley women could marry a Mr. Ireland and a John Roe. Am I correct in > thinking that if someone came from a nearby village that Enniskerry would be the > biggest town and they might just say that they were from Enniskerry to simplify? > > William Ireland went to Connecticut and was a water inspector. So farming > most likely is not what he did in Ireland. John Roe went to Canada and farmed > from day 1. > > Bonnie > in California > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

Apparently the confusion is mine. Thanx, Paul -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of cnews@eircom.net Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 7:28 PM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow I'm sorry Paul, Cara and the list. Indeed Paul I see what you are meaning here, yes it looks as clear as mud doesn't it? "Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of Kilcoole in the PLU of Rathdrum. The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 Deaths: No burial records on film". It does seem confusing if taken in the literal sense, what I meant to be intended was that the The Rathdrum "Parish Records" (on film) date from: Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 Deaths: No burial records on film". Sorry if it seemed to mislead anyone. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman... (Well caught Paul, I didn't even notice it myself, Lol!) irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Paul, > > Re-read the mail -- Cyril has simply stated it is in > the PLU of Rathdrum, most details are also available > from the SeanRuad.com Irl data base available online. > > Rathdrum workhouse records are simply locked up in > that dreadful place but available on micro film at the > NLI Dublin--- > > so simply re read the details below > > Cara > > --- Paul <pdowling7@comcast.net> wrote: > > > What kind of records are you quoting from? I wasn't > > aware of PLU records. > > > > Thanx, > > > > Paul E. Dowling > > Alan Ritchey, Inc. > > 37 Runway Rd. > > Levittown, PA 19057 > > C215-779-9173 > > F215-946-8996 > > pdowling7@comcast.net > > > > -----Original Message----- > > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf > > Of cnews@eircom.net > > Sent: Friday, September 01, 2006 8:40 AM > > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Ireland found in Wicklow > > > > Nice one Brendan. > > > > Ballyhorsey is made up of 55 acres in the Parish of > > Kilcoole in the PLU of > > Rathdrum. > > > > The Rathdrum records (on film) date from: > > Births: Jan. 1795 to Dec. 1880 > > Marriages: From Nov. 1816 to Nov.3rd 1880 > > Deaths: No burial records on film > > > > All this information can be found on film no.6476 at > > the NLI in Dublin. > > > > You can of course go to The Wicklow Family History > > Centre but I would advise > > you to read back through the archives on this issue, > > otherwise see: > > http://www.wicklow.ie/Genealogy/ > > > > I would recommend that everyone takes a look at a > > currency converter before > > going down this road try this one: > > http://www.xe.com/ucc/ > > > > It's the one I use all the time, but make sure you > > have some sedatives to > > hand when visiting the Wicklow Family History site! > > > > (Remember! EVERY BIT of information you send them is > > kept on record FOR > > THEIR USE to sell on to others later!). > > > > > > slan > > > > Cyril Newsome > > Loch Garman > > (If at first you don't succeed, GET A PARROT WITH > > TEETH!) > > > > > > > > firstname.lastname@ucd.ie, irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > > wrote: > > > > > > > > Hi Bonnie > > > > > > I live near Newtownmountkennedy and there is a > > Ballyhorsey about 1 mile > > > north of the village, its another 5 miles to > > Enniskerry. > > > > > > There are Roe/Rowes about th NTMKY (Calary, > > Roundwood) > > > > > > Brendan > > > On 31 Aug 2006 at 19:15, Trunthsams@aol.com wrote: > > > > > > > Today I found a reference to a William W Ireland > > between 1826 and 1850 > > on > > > > ancestry. I have no clue if it is an Ireland I > > am looking for since > > the William > > > > Ireland I am looking for was born about 1848 and > > the source date is > > 1837. > > > > But. . . this could be his father, maybe. The > > location is near N.T. Mt > > > > > > Kennedy and the address is Ballyorsey. Could > > this person be close > > enough to meet > > > > someone from Enniskerry? I am trying to > > connect this William Ireland > > to a > > > > possible marriage to a Keeley and less likely to > > a Roe. I am guessing > > that the > > > > father is married to a Keeley female and they > > are the parents of William > > > > > > Ireland who immigrated as a widower to > > Connecticut in 1880. He left > > behind two > > > > children, 17 and 23, who didn't immigrate until > > 1883. > > > > > > > > There seems to be several Ireland families in > > the Norwalk, Connecticut > > area > > > > by 1900. > > > > > > > > Bonnie > > > > in California > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an > > email to > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > Brendan Dixon > > > Computing Services, > > > UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 > > > Ireland > > > Vox:353 1 7162008 > > > Fax:353 1 2837077 > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > ----------------------------------------------------------------- > > Find the home of your dreams with eircom net > > property > > Sign up for email alerts now > > http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to > > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email > > to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word > > 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and > > the body of the message > > > > > __________________________________________________ > Do You Yahoo!? > Tired of spam? 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Can you please send me websites # 13 For some reason they didn't come thru. Thanks Mary Hall ----- Original Message ----- From: Mautrav@aol.com<mailto:Mautrav@aol.com> To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 23, 2006 4:29 PM Subject: [Wicklow] more websites 12 Hi, I am sending the website/webpage addresses below exactly as I have received them from other listers. I hope you are finding a website or two that you can use in your search. There are 3 more website amills to go. Maureen N _http://www.library.ie/public/index.shtml_ (http://www.library.ie/public/index.shtml<http://www.library.ie/public/index.shtml>) _http://list.jaunay.com/irlnames/_ (http://list.jaunay.com/irlnames/<http://list.jaunay.com/irlnames/>) _http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwic2/wicklow_maps/_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwic2/wicklow_maps/<http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwic2/wicklow_maps/>) _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishancestors/_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishancestors/<http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~irishancestors/>) _http://www.myirishancestry.com/_ (http://www.myirishancestry.com/<http://www.myirishancestry.com/>) _http://www.waterfordcountymuseum.org/exhibit/web_ (http://www.waterfordcountymuseum.org/exhibit/web<http://www.waterfordcountymuseum.org/exhibit/web>) _http://www.abbeysidereferencearchive.blogspot.com/_ (http://www.abbeysidereferencearchive.blogspot.com/<http://www.abbeysidereferencearchive.blogspot.com/>) _http://www.irish-insight.com/a2z-genealogy/html/b.html_ (http://www.irish-insight.com/a2z-genealogy/html/b.html<http://www.irish-insight.com/a2z-genealogy/html/b.html>) _http://www.eneclann.ie/_ (http://www.eneclann.ie/<http://www.eneclann.ie/>) _http://www.irishroots.com/_ (http://www.irishroots.com/<http://www.irishroots.com/>) _http://www.proni.gov.uk/_ (http://www.proni.gov.uk/<http://www.proni.gov.uk/>) _http://homepage.eircom.net/~yolawexford/genealogy.htm_ (http://homepage.eircom.net/~yolawexford/genealogy.htm<http://homepage.eircom.net/~yolawexford/genealogy.htm>) _http://www.genealogyportal.com/_ (http://www.genealogyportal.com/<http://www.genealogyportal.com/>) ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== Times flying and I havent seen you posting down the list lately. ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx>

Below is the second to last installment of websites/webpages provided by others on the list. They are all being sent as they were received. They were checked only to be certain they were valid, and that they were not offensive. Maureen N _http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/addresses/family.htm_ (http://scripts.ireland.com/ancestor/browse/addresses/family.htm) _http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/messageboard.htm_ (http://www.from-ireland.net/contents/messageboard.htm) _http://www.cmcrp.net/Wexford/Landowner1.html_ (http://www.cmcrp.net/Wexford/Landowner1.html) _http://www.nli.ie/new_what_res.htm_ (http://www.nli.ie/new_what_res.htm) _http://www.from-ireland.net/gene/grobirths.htm_ (http://www.from-ireland.net/gene/grobirths.htm) _http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/index.htm_ (http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/index.htm) _http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/irish/irish.htm_ (http://www.movinghere.org.uk/galleries/histories/irish/irish.htm) _http://www.geocities.com/irishancestralpages/_ (http://www.geocities.com/irishancestralpages/) _http://www.ireland-information.com/_ (http://www.ireland-information.com/) _http://www.genfindit.com/imarrs.htm_ (http://www.genfindit.com/imarrs.htm) _http://www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org/_ (http://www.coastguardsofyesteryear.org/) _http://www.genfindit.com/ideaths.htm_ (http://www.genfindit.com/ideaths.htm) _http://www.nli.ie/pdfs/famil2.pdf_ (http://www.nli.ie/pdfs/famil2.pdf) _http://homepage.eircom.net/~ifhs/IFHSpub5.htm_ (http://homepage.eircom.net/~ifhs/IFHSpub5.htm) _http://www.groni.gov.uk/index.htm_ (http://www.groni.gov.uk/index.htm) _http://www.pensear.org/_ (http://www.pensear.org/) _http://www.ukisearch.com/ireland.html_ (http://www.ukisearch.com/ireland.html) _http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/Ireland%20Index.ht_ (http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~nyirish/Ireland%20Index.html)