I agree Cara and apologise, if for my part, I might have caused any confusion. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman cracker@hotkey.net.au, irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > > > > Dear Listers, = > > > When answering mails to the list, and especially to those who are new > lister=92s, bounces or simply hesitant first requesters. > > I simply ask that the question that they ask initially be answered simply > and clearly and not bogged down with and over abundance of information, > unless clearly defined. > > And in this case, it is a case of overkill from two enthusiastic devout > researchers. > > On behalf of Jan Addison the question asked was simply* a list of locations > of Church of Ireland Churches close to Wicklow Town=85=85.. > > In the end baronies, townlands Poor law unions can be discussed and more > information given to the lister once the initial question has been answered. > > > In this case Church of Ireland churches closest to Wicklow Town are = > > 1- Wicklow Town Parish Church > 2- Dunganstown > 3- Delgany > 4- Ashford ( although I do not know if this was current in your time frame > asked) > 5- Newcastle > 6- Glenealy > 7- Rathdrum > 8- Old Castlemacadam > 9- Kilbride > 10- Arklow > 11- Bray > > > > > Cheers CAra > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://mail2web.com/ . > > > > = > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@r= > ootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject a= > nd the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

Greetings from California! My gg grandparents are William WHATELY and Hannah WHITE. According to the LDS Family Search site they married in 1833 in the Diocese of Ossory, Province of Leinster. WHATELY was spelled WHEATLEY. This is the only evidence that they existed at all. I have found other WHATELYS and WHEATLEYS but have no idea if they connect without first finding the marriage record and learning who the parents are. I wrote to the RCB and learned that this Diocese includes about 70 parishes. Please, any advice? Thank you, Stephanie

Have a Dwyer from Tipperary! Do not tie a name to a county or you will never find out anything. WAS -----Original Message----- From: susan_e_marshall@hotmail.com To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Thu, 21 Sep 2006 3:40 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Valentine Dwyer Hello, did anybody see the Who do you think you are programme on the BBC last night, looking at the ancestry of the Olympic hurdler, Colin Jackson? Why I ask is they mentioned that his many times great grandfather was a slave in Jamaica, and was one of nineteen slaves owned by a Valentine Dwyer - originally from Ireland. I was wondering if he was from Wicklow - sounds like a Wicklow name??! Has anybody heard about him before? Susan ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ________________________________________________________________________ Check out the new AOL. Most comprehensive set of free safety and security tools, free access to millions of high-quality videos from across the web, free AOL Mail and more.

Dear Listers, When answering mails to the list, and especially to those who are new lister’s, bounces or simply hesitant first requesters. I simply ask that the question that they ask initially be answered simply and clearly and not bogged down with and over abundance of information, unless clearly defined. And in this case, it is a case of overkill from two enthusiastic devout researchers. On behalf of Jan Addison the question asked was simply* a list of locations of Church of Ireland Churches close to Wicklow Town…….. In the end baronies, townlands Poor law unions can be discussed and more information given to the lister once the initial question has been answered. In this case Church of Ireland churches closest to Wicklow Town are 1- Wicklow Town Parish Church 2- Dunganstown 3- Delgany 4- Ashford ( although I do not know if this was current in your time frame asked) 5- Newcastle 6- Glenealy 7- Rathdrum 8- Old Castlemacadam 9- Kilbride 10- Arklow 11- Bray Cheers CAra -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

I will be at the RCB and I will be venturing into those parishes so if no one else locates the marriage I will be looking Could Catherine Chapman be a daughter of Benjamin Chapman of Dunbur or his niece, in that case there are others on this list researching the same family hands up listers Cara Original Message: ----------------- From: Jan & Geoff Addison janandgeoff@westnet.com.au Date: Sat, 23 Sep 2006 09:56:29 +0800 To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Parish locations Hello Cyril, Thanks for the additional information regarding my query about parish locations. I have had an offer from Mary who will be visiting Ireland soon and will do look-up if she has the time and I have an exact date. I don't feel I should ask Cara for anything as I don't have a specific date for my other query and her time must be limited. Besides she seems to have plenty of favours to do for people already. I'd hoped to find someone going to RCBL for their own research who may have a hour to spare to check for a marriage. Jan Addison. Perth. W.A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Hello Cyril, Thanks for the additional information regarding my query about parish locations. I have had an offer from Mary who will be visiting Ireland soon and will do look-up if she has the time and I have an exact date. I don't feel I should ask Cara for anything as I don't have a specific date for my other query and her time must be limited. Besides she seems to have plenty of favours to do for people already. I'd hoped to find someone going to RCBL for their own research who may have a hour to spare to check for a marriage. Jan Addison. Perth. W.A.

You're welcome Jan, I hope you come up Trumps, Good Luck. slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman. irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Hello Cyril, > > Thanks for the additional information regarding my query about parish > locations. > > I have had an offer from Mary who will be visiting Ireland soon and will do > look-up if she has the time and I have an exact date. > > I don't feel I should ask Cara for anything as I don't have a specific date > for my other query and her time must be limited. Besides she seems to have > plenty of favours to do for people already. I'd hoped to find someone going > to RCBL for their own research who may have a hour to spare to check for > a marriage. > > > Jan Addison. > Perth. W.A. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

Hi Jan Dunbur Upper is located in Kilpoole Parish and Drumkay Parish borders this one and in "A Table of Church of Ireland Parochial Records and Copies," edited by Noel Reid these entries say refer to Wicklow. Wicklow Town falls in the parishes of Kilpoole and Rathnew. The Church of Ireland church in Wicklow Town is St Thomas, I believe, and the parish records are as follows: Baptisms 1655-1877 Marriages 1729-1869 Burials 1729-1874 These registers are available at the Representative Church Body Library, Braemore Park, Dublin. Have a look at "A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland," by Brian Mitchell to see Wicklow Co with its parishes, baronies and Poor Law Unions (Registration Districts now) so that you can see where your parishes are located within the county. I'm guessing that the Public Library in Perth Central just may have Irish research source books available. I'll be in your fair city next month! Cheers Deb Flanagan Christchurch New Zealand -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jan & Geoff Addison Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 10:45 a.m. To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Parish locations Hello Listers, Does anyone on the list know the locations of C.of I. Churches close to Wicklow Town in the 1840s. . I have a marriage which probably took place just prior to civil registrations and wonder how many choices of church the couple would have had. >From my research I have found that the groom JOHN PARKER was from Wicklow Town and the bride CATHERINE CHAPMAN from Durbar Upper. I know that they may have travelled further afield to marry but I have to start somewhere and parishes close to their place of residence seems the best place to begin. Thanks, Jan Addison. Perth W.A. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello Mary, What a quick reply. Thank you for your kind offer I will contact you off list if that's O.K. Jan. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Villalba" <estre68132@msn.com> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, September 22, 2006 9:05 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Parish locations > Hi, Jan: I can't make any promises, but I will be in Ireland for about 5 days in November and if I had a very concise list of what you seek, and we have the time, I'll go looking for you! > thanks, > m > Mary Villalba > AZTEC Communications > 303-290-8415 Tele > Distinguished Governor > Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 > "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." > ----- Original Message -----

Hi Debbie, Thank you for that information as it is just what I wanted to hear. I thought perhaps there were several churches in the immediate area but it appears that isn't the case. Unfortunately a trip to Ireland is not a possibility at present so I would be relying on a favour from another researcher or paying someone to do it for me. If anyone local is going to Dublin I would be prepared to either contribute to the expenses or do research here for them in return. October is a great time to be in Perth so I hope you enjoy your stay. Thanks again, Jan Addison

For Jan Addison (and others). Debbie, it is not Dunbar but Dunbur Upper and in this case it is the Catholic records in the Civil Parish of Kilpoole not the COI records. Kilpool was a Curacy to the main "Parish of Wicklow" It is the Civil Registrations that were covered by Rathdrum PLU. The PLU prior to that was of course also Rathdrum, but the PLU's were technically for the founding of, the Management and the Administration of the Workhouses. The COI Church of the day, given the location, would have been that of Wicklow Town. I believe my old sparring partner Cara is here in Ireland and would suggest if you need any further information or look-ups you contact her wherever she might be. (A suit of Armour needed in my case). slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com wrote: > > Hi Jan > > Dunbur Upper is located in Kilpoole Parish and Drumkay Parish borders this > one and in "A Table of Church of Ireland Parochial Records and Copies," > edited by Noel Reid these entries say refer to Wicklow. Wicklow Town falls > in the parishes of Kilpoole and Rathnew. The Church of Ireland church in > Wicklow Town is St Thomas, I believe, and the parish records are as follows: > > Baptisms 1655-1877 > Marriages 1729-1869 > Burials 1729-1874 > > These registers are available at the Representative Church Body Library, > Braemore Park, Dublin. > > Have a look at "A New Genealogical Atlas of Ireland," by Brian Mitchell to > see Wicklow Co with its parishes, baronies and Poor Law Unions (Registration > Districts now) so that you can see where your parishes are located within > the county. I'm guessing that the Public Library in Perth Central just may > have Irish research source books available. > > I'll be in your fair city next month! > > Cheers > > Deb Flanagan > Christchurch > New Zealand > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com]On Behalf Of Jan & Geoff > Addison > Sent: Friday, 22 September 2006 10:45 a.m. > To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Parish locations > > > > Hello Listers, > > Does anyone on the list know the locations of C.of I. Churches close to > Wicklow Town in the 1840s. . I have a marriage which probably took place > just prior to civil registrations and wonder how many choices of church the > couple would have had. > > >From my research I have found that the groom JOHN PARKER was from Wicklow > Town and the bride CATHERINE CHAPMAN from Durbar Upper. I know that they > may have travelled further afield to marry but I have to start somewhere and > parishes close to their place of residence seems the best place to begin. > > Thanks, > > Jan Addison. > Perth W.A. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ----------------------------------------------------------------- Find the home of your dreams with eircom net property Sign up for email alerts now http://www.eircom.net/propertyalerts

Can't remember who was tracing the Geoghegan surname, however, I was looking through the entries for the New Cemetery, Te Kuiti, King Country, New Zealand I came across the following: Victor Allan GEOGHAN d. 7 Jul 1965 age 64 Thought this might be of some help! Check out the website below for the probates and the coroner's report. http://www.archway.archives.govt.nz/SimpleSearchResults.do Auckland probates GEOGHAN Victor Allan - Te Kuiti - Inspector Works >> 1965 1965 High Court Auckland, Department of Justice O Akld Coroners inquest files Colin Victor Geoghan >> 1978 1979 Ministry of Justice, Head Office O Wgtn Rotorua Probate Files GEOGHAN Colin Victor - Taupo - Timber Worker >> 1978 1978 Rotorua High Court O Akld There are a number of entries for both GEOGHAN and GEOGHEGAN. Any of the Christchurch probates I can look up for you as I live in Chch. http://www.pycroft.co.nz/services/NZ_Government_On-Line_Data.html Check this site for other cemeteries online in New Zealand. http://librarydata.christchurch.org.nz/Cemeteries/ page 1 of 2 for the surname Geoghegan Surname First Name Date of Death Date of Burial Geoghegan Catherine 2/08/1930 4/08/1930 [Detail] Geoghegan Charles 14/07/1948 16/07/1948 [Detail] Geoghegan David Alexander 3/02/2003 14/04/2003 [Detail] Geoghegan Elizabeth Mary 16/10/1957 18/10/1957 [Detail] Geoghegan Ellen Frances 20/04/1958 22/04/1958 [Detail] Geoghegan Frank 31/10/1954 3/11/1954 [Detail] Geoghegan Gerard 8/10/1952 9/10/1952 [Detail] Geoghegan Jane 16/07/1922 18/07/1922 [Detail] GEOGHEGAN JOSEPH FRANCIS 26/07/1994 29/07/1994 [Detail] Geoghegan Madeleine Sophie 26/09/2004 1/10/2004 [Detail] You can contact me at: benflan@xtra.co.nz Cheers Deb Flanagan Christchurch New Zealand

Hello Listers, Does anyone on the list know the locations of C.of I. Churches close to Wicklow Town in the 1840s. . I have a marriage which probably took place just prior to civil registrations and wonder how many choices of church the couple would have had. >From my research I have found that the groom JOHN PARKER was from Wicklow Town and the bride CATHERINE CHAPMAN from Durbar Upper. I know that they may have travelled further afield to marry but I have to start somewhere and parishes close to their place of residence seems the best place to begin. Thanks, Jan Addison. Perth W.A.

Hi, Jan: I can't make any promises, but I will be in Ireland for about 5 days in November and if I had a very concise list of what you seek, and we have the time, I'll go looking for you! thanks, m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: Jan & Geoff Addison<mailto:janandgeoff@westnet.com.au> To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com<mailto:irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 21, 2006 6:58 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Parish locations Hi Debbie, Thank you for that information as it is just what I wanted to hear. I thought perhaps there were several churches in the immediate area but it appears that isn't the case. Unfortunately a trip to Ireland is not a possibility at present so I would be relying on a favour from another researcher or paying someone to do it for me. If anyone local is going to Dublin I would be prepared to either contribute to the expenses or do research here for them in return. October is a great time to be in Perth so I hope you enjoy your stay. Thanks again, Jan Addison ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com> with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello, did anybody see the Who do you think you are programme on the BBC last night, looking at the ancestry of the Olympic hurdler, Colin Jackson? Why I ask is they mentioned that his many times great grandfather was a slave in Jamaica, and was one of nineteen slaves owned by a Valentine Dwyer - originally from Ireland. I was wondering if he was from Wicklow - sounds like a Wicklow name??! Has anybody heard about him before? Susan

Thank you, Maureen--joan

Joan, Sorry, I just realized that your dates were the late 1800s - too late for Griffiths and some of the church records I recommended. Another place you may find some info for the late 1800s is Michael Brennan's website. _http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/Site_index.htm_ (http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/Site_index.htm) Maureen N

Joan, Cloneghal parish is nearby. Have you looked for any records there? Perhaps Griffiths or church records. The following website has some of the church records transcribrd - including Cloneghal marriage records. _http://www.from-ireland.net/newpages/car06.htm_ (http://www.from-ireland.net/newpages/car06.htm) Maureen N

Trying to trace my ggrandfather---William Mannering m. Mary Walsh (e) ---lived in Ballon, Co. Carlow--had 3 children--James,born 1885, Patrick, born 1889 and Elizabeth, born 1892--all in Ballon. Parish priest had no info on marriage or death of William or Mary. James and Patrick both came to the states. Have no info on Elizabeth--never heard of her until the priest forwarded both birth and baptismal records on all three children. Any help greatly appreciated. Joan

Hello Ann They would have been renting from my Great Grandfather Richard O'Donoghue I have seen the name so often and wondered if I would ever get the chance To talk to anyone from the Byrne family we may be able to help each other My e-mail address is menright2@cogeco.ca Look forward hearing from you Margaret Anne (O'Donoghue) Enright Burlington, Ontario Canada Would you be so king as to give me the web address where you obtained the information. My gr. Grandfather had 12 children and my grandfather was Sylvester O'Donoghue and I have been unable to find out just when he Left Ireland and what ship he took Richard O'Donoghue his wife's name Was Mary James. -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Ann Burns Sent: Saturday, September 09, 2006 5:29 AM To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Extended family of Arthur and Eliza Byrne I am researching the family of Arthur and Elizabeth (Eliza/Bess) Byrne - nee Kehoe/Keogh. They were Fitzwilliam tenants, renting land from Richard Donoghue on the Coollattin Estate in Wicklow at the time they were evicted and given assisted passage to Canada in 1847. I have the baptisms of their four youngest children from the parish church in Clonegall - not the actual records but the listing of baptisms along with the sponsors names which recently became available on the web. [Thank you so much to whoever did all that transcribing.] >PLEASE FORWARD ME THE WEB SITE ADDREASE PLEASE. DID YOU PURCHASE THE FITZWILLIAM CD? IF SO WOULD YOU SEND ME THE INFORMATION ON HOW TO PURCHASE IT. Does anyone know how I might identify the parents or siblings of Arthur Byrne or Eliza Kehoe? Their children's names were: William, Edward, Eliza, Margaret,George, Mary, Ann(e), Arthur and Jane. I'm assuming the usual family naming conventions apply since they pretty much followed them once in Canada, but it's unclear whether William or Edward was the oldest son according to the information we have. I have access to the Fitzwilliam CD and will soon have access to the microfilm of parish records from Clonegall at the local FHS, but don't know how, or if, I will be able to make the desired connections. Thanks, Ann Burns Ottawa ON Canada ---------------------------------------- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter for private users. It has removed 2029 spam emails to date. Paying users do not have this message in their emails. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.405 / Virus Database: 268.12.2/442 - Release Date: 08/09/2006 ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message