Thanks Cara Will keep a look out for info. Many German's and Germaine's in the area in Wicklow. Name came from Finlay side. His grandfather was a German Finlay - there are quite a few of those! Name on his 1892 Marriage Certificate is "German", and his Bible annotated before leaving Ireland has German too. I have both. Seems he never used it much in Australia. All other documents uses Jeremiah and is the name on his headstone in cemetery. I use both just in case someone sees references. No relatives I have been in contact with here or in other countries knew his proper name either - even my mother! May be something to do with politics of the early late 1800/early 1900's. rgds Neil

Mathew Byrne buried Cranareen of Killamoat died 24/8/1869 aged 60 so that made him born around 1806 but he had a wife Anne Have you looked in the archives and gotten out all the BYRNE files that are there Because I know the name is there along with a file called Byrne Baby Byrne and that has a heap of headstone transcriptions in it ...... And I think it would be best if you dragged that file from the dungeons of the Archives rather than myself haveing to re type all thing. If you are lucky enough to locate it will you send me a copy and I will update it with further data on the Byrne names for the Byrne/Burn researchers the last spelling I have only found one family and that was in Avoca with this spelling. Cheers Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Whillans" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 24, 2009 2:20 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Roll Call: BYRNE > Mike Murphy has been the first Rooter I noticed who has mentioned > Aughavana > in Wicklow for a very long time. My interest is in Byrne at Aughavana, > which I expressed in my Roll Call emails of 30 Jan 2009 (Wicklow) and 20 > Feb > 2005 (Byrne). > > My wife's greatgrandfather was James Myles Byrne born 1828-29 (from > marriage > cert) in Aghavannagh (from his gravestone, which suggests b1821-22) near > Glendalough along an old military road constructed by the English in their > attempt to contain the Irish rebels in the Wicklow hills; his parents were > farmer Mathew Burnes(!) & Anne (from his death cert). > > Searching the recently available BMD indices, there are two matches for > James Byrne (plus variants) b1821-1829 Wicklow pa Mathew; these are b1828 > & > 1829. There is one match for Mathew Byrne (plus variants) b1796-1804 > Wicklow, namely b1801. > > James Myles Byrne migrated to Victoria Australia, while reputably (from > family lore) his one sister Mary and seven brothers (unknown given names) > migrated to America, all moving because of the potato famine. James > married > Mary Jane Barry on 17jun1862 at Port Belfast (Port Fairy) Victoria > Australia > shortly after his arrival. They sheep-farmed during 1866-78 at Wickliffe > & > Glenthompson near the Grampians in Victoria, later moving to Dunkeld where > he succeeded financially, then they moved to Moyhu just S of Wangaratta > where they ran a general store; he was buried a little N of this at Milawa > during 1909. > > My attempts to find more about James Myles and his parents Mathew & Anne > have been quite futile. A visit to Aghavannagh and its truly delightful > nearby Roshana cemetery, searching the Griffiths Valuation, keeping my > eyes > open in the Byrne Rootsweb List, foolishly (in hindsight) paying good > money > in 1993 to the County Wicklow Heritage Society at the Courthouse Wicklow > for > a continuing search, have all come to nought. > > Any help would be gratefully accepted. > > Frank Whillans, Melbourne. > . > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.89/2197 - Release Date: 06/23/09 05:54:00

Kerry Murray, I can't help with Healys, but I'm researching Murrays from Wicklow (perhaps Leitrim/Roscommon); 1869 migrated America. Do you know your Murray ancestry? Pat Murray Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kerry Murray" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, June 26, 2009 2:41 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] researching Conway/ Healy > Hi all, > My research has brought me to Wicklow. My 2x great grandmother Bridget > Healy > was from Wicklow and was born June 26 1836. Her parents were Michael Healy > and bridget Smith. She migrated to Australia in 1859 with her husband > Anthony Conway of Kildare. I have no other details of Anthony. Any help > would be greatly appreciated. > > Kerry Murray > Australia > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Is it RostyDuff or RustyDuff ??/ And as a point of interest listers you are not stripping the mails of the wasted words Please do it makes us have more room in archives. Cara

Hi Neil You know where you have German - why have you written Jeremiah because this name Germaine flows through this area heavily as there was a parish priest there named so ........... just an aside to looking at your mail but shows I am looking anyway. I have some data I am about to drop down the list keep your eyes peeled it does have a Finlay in it but if hes yours I wont know its an exercise in simply names and place names for a certain time frame. Cheers For now Cara

Cara and others on the list. I have looked for this "Byrne Baby Burn" in the Wicklow IRL mailing list archives and have not found it. If anyone does, please send the link. Thanks!!! <<<<<<<<< Have you looked in the archives and gotten out all the BYRNE files that are there Because I know the name is there along with a file called Byrne Baby Byrne and that has a heap of headstone transcriptions in it ...... > And I think it would be best if you dragged that file from the dungeons of > the Archives rather than myself haveing to re type all thing. > If you are lucky enough to locate it will you send me a copy and I will > update it with further data on the Byrne names for the Byrne/Burn > research> Cheers > Cara>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>

Hi I got this from another list- you never know you may get lucky with a wandering rellie log onto to scotlandspeople- you will have to register if not already a member. Click on buy credits and n the voucher code at the bottom enter heraldmag. You will get 20 free credits to use today. Carol

Hi Listers I am researching the BREEN family from Crosscoolharbour, near Blessington, and currently looking for - The marriage of TIMOTHY BREEN (b. about 1801) to an ANNE(born about 1811), the marriage most likely prior to approximately 1838 when I know that they had a son called WILLIAM (year of birth estimated from age at death). I am also looking for the marriage of this WILLIAM BREEN, sometime I would think after 1858. Nothing obvious is appearing on the Marriage Index, but may be a WILLIAM whose marriage is registered in the Shillelagh District. Any hints, information etc., would be more than welcome Joyce

Hi Im still hopng for more on NILES SULLAVAN DONLEY AND BYRNE- any spellings, all in the Avoca area 1850ish- any part of Wicklow wll be of great interest tho due to comparative rarity of some of the names. Findng any family still in Ireland after circa 1860 would be great as would any evidence pre 1840s. Carol

Hi Cara > Is it RostyDuff or RustyDuff ??/ The ordnance survey maps from the 1830's have it written as Rostyduff Upper and Lower on the maps however their online gazetteer list Rostyduff as the "townland" name and Rustyduff as the "locality" and "rural" name so perhaps suggesting both were used? Brendan -- Brendan Dixon Educational Technologist UCD IT Services, Belfield, Dublin 4, Ireland Vox: 353 1 7162008 Fax: 353 1 2837077 Save Paper " Do you really need to print this e-mail?

Hi Im interested in Byrne Burn purely because of a Murghter Burns- spelt many ways who is n Cumberland England same time as my Niles and Donnellys- he just says from ireland on census but you never know could be an Avoca man? carol On Fri, Jun 26, 2009 at 6:05 AM, Cara_Links<[email protected]> wrote: > > If you are lucky enough to locate it will you send me a copy and I will > update it with further data on the Byrne names for the Byrne/Burn > researchers the last spelling I have only found one family and that was in > Avoca with this spelling. > > Cheers > Cara > >

Thankyou Paul regards, Pauline -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Friday, 26 June 2009 6:13 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] SPONSORS AT BAPTISMS Pauline, No. Sponsors were people chosen to ensure that the child would be given the correct religious upbringing in case the parents were not around to do so themselves. So you couldn't sponsor your own child as that would be pointless. Regards, Paul Gorry Original Message: ----------------- From: Pauline Hall [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:06:58 +0800 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] SPONSORS AT BAPTISMS Hello, Can the father or mother of a child also be the sponsor of that child at it's baptism? Hope you can help, Pauline *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I think it is possible to have three 'godparents' at baptism and that could include a parent ! ----- Original Message ----- From: "Pauline Hall" <[email protected]> To: "WICKLOW" <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 25, 2009 11:06 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] SPONSORS AT BAPTISMS >

Pauline, No. Sponsors were people chosen to ensure that the child would be given the correct religious upbringing in case the parents were not around to do so themselves. So you couldn't sponsor your own child as that would be pointless. Regards, Paul Gorry Original Message: ----------------- From: Pauline Hall [email protected] Date: Thu, 25 Jun 2009 18:06:58 +0800 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] SPONSORS AT BAPTISMS Hello, Can the father or mother of a child also be the sponsor of that child at it's baptism? Hope you can help, Pauline *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web.com - Microsoft® Exchange solutions from a leading provider - http://link.mail2web.com/Business/Exchange

Hello, Can the father or mother of a child also be the sponsor of that child at it's baptism? Hope you can help, Pauline

Joseph Eager born 1737 to 1779in Wicklow (I think) trying to find his ancestors, married Martha Begley 29th June 1759 in Ballymore Eustace had a son Joseph Eager who had a son Joseph Benjamin Eager who emigrated to Canada circa 1840. Have no problem with Canada but am still trying to find where the original Joseph Eager sprang from. I have the "Book of Eager's" but cannot find him listed. (There are several families lost). Any information would be appreciated. As to CARA whenever she has come across information on this family she has sent it on to me. Thank you in advance Edna

On the 3rd of May 1789 in the Avoca Parish ( RC) John McGrath married Eliza O'Neil nothing more known on this couple ------------------------------------------------------------------------------- John McGrath born circa 1830 living with his wife at Cronebane in 1901 Dara or Dora ? had listed with them 1- Marcella born about 1869 Peter born about 1877 Mary Born about 1879 taken from Avoca Census 1901 ages are as recorded. McGRATH John Head born circa 1830 aged 71 Ochre Miner McGRATH Dara or Dora Wife born circa c1832 aged 68 McGRATH Mary Daughter born circa 1878 aged 22 McGRATH Peter Son born circa 1877 aged 24 Engine Driver in Mines married to Eleanor born circa 1877 TUKE Eleanor Daughter-in-law aged 24 TUKE Francis Son-In-Law born circa 1869 aged 32 Ochre Miner married to Marcella McGrath born circa 1869 TUKE Marcella Daughter aged 32years and residing with parents at the 1901 census. ======================== A Michael Maher married Anne McGrath 9/9/1828 in the Avoca PArish according to the rites of the RC CHurch witnessd by Patrick Hughes and W Hughes. --------------------------------------------------------- I have more on the name McGrath but this is pertaining to the earlier persons that may link to your search for John McGrath. Given areas may even assist Cheers Cara

Christopher Keane m Sara Quinn, Glendalough Wicklow 18 June 1837. They were RC and were in the Boleynass Lower, Killiskey, Wicklow area. They had 11 children James c 4 Jun 1839 m Mary Rooney 1844 Ashford, Wicklow Eliza c 22 Jul 1840 Mary Anne c 9 Apr 1843 m Patrick Gregory McGivney 16 Feb 1870 Ashford. Patt c 28 Jan 1845 Thomas c 1 Apr 1847 m Margaret Kelly 21 Nov 1888 Ashford. Frances c 23 May 1849 Christopher c 9 May 1852 Abraham c 30 Dec 1855 Hugh c 4 Oct 1857 Joseph c 3 Apr 1859 m Mary Rooney 12 Aug 1884 Ashford. Christina c 27 Jan 1842 d 3 Nov 1880 Christchurch New Zealand.m John Ryan Maori Gully, Greymouth New Zealand 12 Sept 1872. They had 3 sons Henry Christopher 1873, John Joseph 1876 , Abraham 1879. Christina's godparents were Mary Anne Quinn and Gerald Toole I have not been able to identify when she left Ireland or what ship she travelled on. She arrive in NZ in early 1872. I have not been able to identify if any of her family left Ireland. She married a John Ryan form Tipperary. His birth date is between 1820-1840 I have not been able to find when he leftand or arrived or the ship. He is my biggest brick wall. Any ideas greatly appreciated. Kevin Richmond, Nelson New Zealand. PS Cara thank you so much for keeping us all going.  :) ---

Hi Mike, I have a Thomas Toole, Baptized on 20 May 1825. His parents were John Toole and Elizabeth Kelly. Residence given as Aughavanagh. Sponsors were Matthew Fleming and Margaret Kinsella. This record was transcribed from microfilm # 6472 (NLI), Rathdrum Parish. There are also records for John - 1829, Bridget - 1835, same parents/residence/Parish. If you think these people might be your family, and are interested in the other two records (sponsors, etc), just give me a shout. I can also give you the sponsors for Thomas and Catherine's children, except for the last three (Maryanne, Edmond and Patrick). I don't have those. Peggy Leonard Thomas Toole was born in 1825 in Aughavanagh and married to Catherine Byrne. I have no other information on Catherine. **************Huge Savings on Popular Laptops only at Dell.com. Shop Now! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221900667x1201409530/aol?redir=http: %2F%2Fad.doubleclick.net%2Fclk%3B215910242%3B38350777%3Bf)

Names: James Kavanagh b. 1830-40 & Margaret Kavanagh b. approx. 1837. They were siblings (or cousins, etc.) Religion: RC Parish: Mullinacuff Townland: Ballynultagh (Parents/relatives: could have been Eliza Kavanagh, Thomas Kavanagh) James may have been a cooper by trade. Margaret became a Sister of Mercy in RI/CT, USA in 1862. Sailed: ship Glenlyon, New Ross 15April to Quebec 30 May, 1851 as Fitzwilliam tenants, family group #601.* James married (to Margaret Byrne of parish Hacketstown, townland Ballinguile...4 sons born in Chicago) & living in Chicago, IL, USA by 1863 (according to US Civil War records.) * From Fitzwilliam Tenant Records: James (age 19) sailed with Laurence & Anne Foster Kavanagh (both 38 in 1851). Also on ship in family group #601 were Thomas Kavanagh age 16, Laurence Kavanagh age 14, Denis Kavanagh age 12, Ally Kavanagh age 10 and Charles Kavanagh age 8. A John Kavanage age 18 was scratched from ship's list. A Margaret Kavanagh age 23 was shown living with these Kavanaghs in 1847 Fitzwilliam records, but apparently did not sail on the Glenlyon in 1851. Anne Burgess in Ontario, Canada has shared information about some of these Kavanaghs after they arrived in Canada. I am most grateful to her and to Cara, also for their help and encouragement over the years. Does anyone on the IRL-Wicklow list have any connection to any of the above named Kavanaghs? I am trying to either "claim" this James (and maybe the Margaret) as ours, or to eliminate them as our Kavanagh immigrants. We have U.S. info on both 'our' James and Margaret Kavanagh from 1862 onward. Many thanks for the ROLL CALL. Sharon Kavanagh Oregon, U.S.