Well its time to say, last calls for roll call, as it will be ending on Sunday, my SUnday or your Sunday wherever that Sunday falls in yours or my part of the world it ends. SO if you wish to do an update on your mail, or if you think you have missed out, send a mail now. Then we will this time begin and overview on Roll call data, once my beautiful secretrary has me updated on the Roll Call data, so to my unpaid wonderful Secretary and friend - I thanky you from my overworked and tired fingers for your help and assistance ( yet again) For you most gratefully received help. Yours Cara

Dear Sheila and listers As I sit here this morning, chatting via the internet to the other half, I am reading the mails, and have this feeling of goosebumps all over me about this connection, between Margaret and Sheila, even a little tear trickles down my cheek, knowing that this lady Margaret was so delighted to know someone was looking for her family, and now she has Sheila and Sheila has Margaret, warm and fuzzy, lovely It was nothing Sheila , you are no stranger you are a Wicklow lister you are one of my extended family. And I hope we are going to get updates as it all unfolds, because this Margaret is also related to the Toole family as well Cheers Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Chaudoin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, July 03, 2009 7:08 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Roll Call: Byrne > To all the listers, > > > > If you've been following my request to find the burial place of Hugh and > Bridget Byrne of Ballymaconey and read the email from Cara about the > adventures she sent her husband on to help me out, I have news! I was > able > to connect with Margaret Harmon who Cara's husband found for me. She is > indeed the granddaughter of Hugh and Bridget making her my 1st cousin, > twice > removed. Margaret was a delight to talk with. Her grandchildren came > while > we were on the phone and since there was an echo on the line, I asked for > her address and decided to write her to ask her specific questions. Any > way, I thought I'd let you all know my good luck and my undying gratitude > to > Cara and her husband for going above and beyond the call of duty for a > stranger!! Best regards, > > > > Sheila Chaudoin > > Iowa, USA > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.13.2/2213 - Release Date: 07/01/09 18:07:00

Hi Cara, your recent posting on the purpose of a roll call is the best explaination I have seen. Would you give me permission to recopy most of it for use on my Bradner List? ----- Original Message ----- From: Cara_Links To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] PURPOSE OF A ROLL CALL Date: Sun, 28 Jun 2009 12:12:56 +1000 Is to make contact with those researching the same name as yourself, but in the initial stages of a research, I do think it is much nicer if you can post your family to the front of the list, and then if you desire take it behind list. First and foremost, there are many listers on this list that do not post in the first few hours of a roll call, they sit back and they read, then they think aobut what they have before they begin asking or sharing. So if you opt to post your family search behind the list you miss a valuable exercise in having your data placed in the open forum of the Archives to be found in due course possibly many months from now, as long as you keep your email address updated at all times you will receive eventually contact from someone that may not even be a lister, and this I can vouch by saying a posting I made 7 years ago has now given me the valuable input I needed to go one step further in my own research, so thats put another crack in my wall. So that is my 10 cents worth, of why I like to see the initial research posted to the front of list, in fact I myself have not answered to many researchers as yet, and shared what I may have gleaned over the last few months from paper work that is being typed up on a daily base here at home. I keep wondering if anyone wants to move in with this crankee old woman and become my secretary, we would have lots of laughs at times .........oh I know stop your moaning Cara and get on with it all. Cheers from here where the sun is shining but no warmth Cara *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message Cheers Bernie Bradner Georgetown, Ontario 905-702-0265 Visit my web page http://www.aztec-net.com/~bradner/ Researching, Bradner, Bryant, Corrigan, Kezar, Whitewood family names -- Be Yourself @ mail.com! Choose From 200+ Email Addresses Get a Free Account at www.mail.com

Hi All, I don't know where my Michael Lalor came from so i just wait & hope. All we have is Michael Lalor born 1818ish from Ireland,he was in Wappenbury Warwick on the 1841 census as a policman,he has so far 2 children Henry born 1842 out of wedlock to Hannah Malin & Walter born 1843 to Eliza Simmons,on Walter's birth cert it states Eliza was married to Michael,but i think this was done only to save her from gossip,after that Michael has vannished & perhaps Eliza did marry someone else. Story has it,Michael may of returned to Ireland or gone further or even changed his name. Henry his first son stayed with Hannah & she later married into the Beale family & Walter? No one knows,only he arrives out of the blue on the 1861 census onwards,so if any of you have a Walter in your family,please think,is he mine? Kaz.

I have not had much time for family history in the past few months but am getting back to it now. On the CD of the Fitzwilliam emigrants, there were several families of interest to me. My direct ancestors were of most interest and I think I might be missing the link that connects me to others. On my father's side my ggg grandparents were Arthur Byrne and Eliza Kehoe from Coolross townland near Shillelagh. This family left Ireland in 1847 and settled in Eastern Ontario, Canada. I have most of their descendants located and will happily share the information. What I have not found is any information on their marriage or on the family of Eliza Kehoe. Arthur and Eliza were probably married circa 1820. He was a carpenter and rented a few acres from Richard Donoghue. Their 4 youngest children were baptised in the RC church at Clonegal - St Brigid's. In the census of 1851 in Canada West (Ontario), most of the Byrne children are grown and gone but along with their younger ones, there is Mary Foley, age 4, living with them. She was still living with Arthur and Eliza in 1861. I have not found anything about her since that time. There was a Foley family living in Newry near the Byrnes in Coolross and I believe Mary was their daughter. Her parents were Dennis Foley and Biddy Byrne. Mary's godparents were Ed Byrne and Betty Byrne - possibly Art and Eliza's oldest children Edward and Elizabeth Byrne but that's a guess. With only a vague idea of the relationship between the Byrnes and Foleys I have so far assumed that Mary was orphaned and taken in, possibly during the voyage to Canada. Godparents of two of the Byrne children were a Martin Kehoe (and Mary Nolan) and Owen Kehoe (and Peggy Foley). That is a starting point for tracking the Kehoes but I have not followed up yet. It's also another slim connection to the Foleys. There was a Martin Kehoe from the FW estate who came to Canada and settled in (Port) Sydney ON - maybe the same fellow and maybe a brother of Eliza. My other Wicklow mystery remains the family of William McGrath and his wife Mary Byrne from Ballynultagh. They had several children including a Michael of approximately the right age. This couple settled in what is now Ottawa, Canada and I have quite a lot of information about their descendants. Some of that information seems to indicate a connection with my mother's family. My maternal gg grandfather was Michael McGrath - possibly their son. I have not verified any relatives for my Michael. He (and wife Catherine Brennan from Kilkenny) married in Ottawa in 1854, and had 11 children, who were given the same names as the children of Wm and Mary (Byrne) McGrath and their oldest son was William. However, on Michael's marriage registration his mother was listed as Mary Maher - not Byrne. Connections with the McGrath family from Ballinultagh are found in my mother's ancestors but that is just coincidence if Michael's mother was really a Maher. It does strike me as strange that both my father's and mother's ancestors might have originated from the FW estate. I know they all arrived in Canada in 1847. I would be pleased to share the information I have and of course would be very happy to learn more about the Byrne - Kehoe - Foley - McGrath families. Ann Burns Ottawa ON Canada

To all the listers, If you've been following my request to find the burial place of Hugh and Bridget Byrne of Ballymaconey and read the email from Cara about the adventures she sent her husband on to help me out, I have news! I was able to connect with Margaret Harmon who Cara's husband found for me. She is indeed the granddaughter of Hugh and Bridget making her my 1st cousin, twice removed. Margaret was a delight to talk with. Her grandchildren came while we were on the phone and since there was an echo on the line, I asked for her address and decided to write her to ask her specific questions. Any way, I thought I'd let you all know my good luck and my undying gratitude to Cara and her husband for going above and beyond the call of duty for a stranger!! Best regards, Sheila Chaudoin Iowa, USA

To listers, Cara, and Sheila, I read these postings because of Cara's divine finds and witty prose. And then there are all the tipsters in the list. I appreciate them as well. Pat Murray Scott ( Murrays - James and Frances posted in this roll call) ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sheila Chaudoin" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, July 02, 2009 2:08 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Roll Call: Byrne > To all the listers, > > > > If you've been following my request to find the burial place of Hugh and > Bridget Byrne of Ballymaconey and read the email from Cara about the > adventures she sent her husband on to help me out, I have news! I was > able > to connect with Margaret Harmon who Cara's husband found for me. She is > indeed the granddaughter of Hugh and Bridget making her my 1st cousin, > twice > removed. Margaret was a delight to talk with. Her grandchildren came > while > we were on the phone and since there was an echo on the line, I asked for > her address and decided to write her to ask her specific questions. Any > way, I thought I'd let you all know my good luck and my undying gratitude > to > Cara and her husband for going above and beyond the call of duty for a > stranger!! Best regards, > > > > Sheila Chaudoin > > Iowa, USA > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In researching the Webster side of my family I have three marriages I have made little or no progress on. All three marriages took place at Wicklow Parish Church (C of I), Wicklow Town. The first was of an Elizabeth Webster to a Thomas Steadman (or Stedman) on the 27/1/1831. The Steadman name seems to pop up mostly in or around the Avoca area. The second is of a Margaret Webster of Blainroe Wicklow marrying a Samuel Griffin of Ballygahan Castlemacadam on the 17/10/1887. Margaret was the daughter of Isaac Webster and Samuel was the son of Samuel Griffin, Witnesses were Henry Webster and Charles Gilbert. The third is of a Mary Webster of Blainroe Wicklow marrying a John Farrar of Coolroe, Crosspatrick Tinahely on the 11/4/1888. Mary was the daughter of Isaac Webster of Blainroe and John was the son of Joshua Farrar. John was a widower at the time of marriage. Witnesses were Henry Webster and ??? Griffin. John.

We have just added another 150 headstones for Redford Catholic Cemetery. This batch was photographed and transcribed by Yvonne Russell. To view these go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on WICKLOW & Headstones. This week someone wrote and asked me if I "had" her ancestor after I announced more headstone photos on another list. We have a very good search engine called Free Find on the main page. You can use the drop down option to limit to a county. After doing your first search, you can click on "Advanced Search" which is above the search box on the Results page. From there you can try exact phrase etc. You can also put a name in quotes. The search engine spiders the site once a day so Redford Catholic won't show up until tomorrow. July 2nd. To do a quick search on a new file, you will want to click on the text file and use Ctrl-F or the Find in page command in your browser. I find that Control-F works almost anywhere. Sorry if this is a repeat. I always feel badly when I realize someone has no idea that they can search the site. Enjoy! Christina

Hi Folks I don't know if you have come across this site before but it is full of good information about Placenames and their location and English/Irish spellings and what they mean and where possible have an image from the archive listing when they were recorded. Its at http://www.logainm.ie Brendan

Hi Cara Looking at this database suggest that Rostyduff is the correct spelling I think as when I type in Rustyduff it suggests Rostyduff. Brendan

Hi Folks I have just seen this. It may be a helpful tool to locate areas and townlands etc. Its http://www.logainm.ie and comes in Irish and English!!! Brendan

Brendan, This site is fantastic. Thank you for posting it. Maureen N In a message dated 6/30/2009 10:28:30 A.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I don't know if you have come across this site before but it is full of good information about Placenames and their location and English/Irish spellings and what they mean and where possible have an image from the archive listing when they were recorded. Its at http://www.logainm.ie Brendan **************Make your summer sizzle with fast and easy recipes for the grill. (http://food.aol.com/grilling?ncid=emlcntusfood00000005)

Disregard the word NOT I am asking you for helpt Cara > 1-RCB-Representative Church Body > 2- N.L.I National Library Ireland _Dublin > 3-N.A. National Archives -Dublin > > Now recently I made the most awful mistake of referring to the RCB as > simply that, and the reaction it caused became horrid so I am not asking > if > any of you have codes for the places regarding research would you add it > to > this list and send it back to Cara and I am trying to compile a list or at > least update the one I have > so that never again, will I get toasted over the RCB. > > > Thanks for your part in this > > Cara > PS -perhaps if you have current addresses or links of these places you may > like ot add those in for me as well. > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.339 / Virus Database: 270.12.89/2197 - Release Date: 06/23/09 05:54:00

1-RCB-Representative Church Body 2- N.L.I National Library Ireland _Dublin 3-N.A. National Archives -Dublin Now recently I made the most awful mistake of referring to the RCB as simply that, and the reaction it caused became horrid so I am not asking if any of you have codes for the places regarding research would you add it to this list and send it back to Cara and I am trying to compile a list or at least update the one I have so that never again, will I get toasted over the RCB. Thanks for your part in this Cara PS -perhaps if you have current addresses or links of these places you may like ot add those in for me as well.

it wont be me that smacks your naughty fingers it may be Peggy when she tries to wade through it all to see what is going on But do try to remember to cut it out, it makes the archives load better Cara

Hi I'm searching for a Christopher MAHER born abt 1908 we think Dublin to a Bridget MAHER can anybody help with this, I am new to this list & would appreciate any help & am willing to reciprocate Many thanks Patrick Walker

Hi Peggy, thankyou so much. I did have Patrick and Andrew's birth, but not Edward's. I have just sent to the GRO for the marriage of Timothy K and Cathrine Carty, GUESSING at the years. 1860 was one of them, so hopefully I'll get a copy. I did not have there marriage or parent's names, so again, many thanks. Would also love to have the children of Edward Carty and Ellen Lambert if it is not too much trouble. Kind regards, Pauline -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Tuesday, 30 June 2009 6:57 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] IRL-WICKLOW Digest,TIMOTHY KINSELLA/CATHERINE CARTY Hi Pauline, I have a couple of children for you....Parents: Timothy Kinsella and Catherine Carty. Patrick - 11 July 1861 - Sponsors: Andrew Carty and Ellen Doyle. Residence: Manganacoole (?). Edward - 17 January 1864 - Sponsors: Timothy Kinsella and Mary Kinsella. Same residence. Andrew - 24 July 1865 - Sponsors: Patrick Hamilton and Mary Hamilton. Residence Killeagh. transcribed from Film # 6476 (Nat'l Library Dublin). All three Baptized in the R.C. Parish of Rathdrum. Timothy Kinsella and Catherine Carty married 2 July 1860. residence given as Killeagh. Timothy's parents were Patrick Kinsella and Mary Anne Maher. Catherine's parents were Edward Carty and Ellen Lambert. Witnesses were Timothy Kinsella and Anne Collins. Marriage took place in Rathdrum. transcribed from the same film as above. I have six children of Edward Carty and Ellen Lambert, if you want them. Hope that helps, Peggy Leonard **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1221823281x1201398699/aol?redir=htt p://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=62&bcd= JunestepsfooterNO62) *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Dear Cara, Golding and Peggy Thank you?all!?? This is the greatest list - everyone is so kind and helpful - and how could any of us get on without Cara's sense of humor! Cara, I don't understand the question marks that appear in my text but they're driving me nuts?. . . . I'll try to figure out plain vs rich text and see if that helps. Golding and Peggy - I appreciate the help with my WHITES and WHATELYs, but all I know?about my gg grandparents is that?Hannah WHITE and Wm WHATELY married in the Diocese of Ossory in 1833.? I found the marriage on the family search site under WHEATLY.? I now know that this area covers about 40 parishes so that doesn't help too much.? Hannah had a brother William WHITE - I just learned he may have emigrated to Ontario with the Whatelys and I have a librarian in Thornbury, Ont.?looking for his obit.? I'm hopeful that it may indicate where the family lived in Co Wicklow.? I may know something at the end of the week and will let you know. Happy Canada Day (Wednesday) to all the Canadian listers out there! Stephanie in California

Steph The C of I Diocese of Ossary is now grouped with a number of Diocese ( now The United Diocese of Cashel , Waterford, Lismore, Ossory Ferns & Leighlin , ) I see you are concentrating on Ossory which was previously grouped with Ferns & Leighlin . . But you would need to narrow it down to a Parish if possible of the bride(s) & the brides maiden name or the spouse with approx dates of birth and marriage. . also a range of years like 1800 to 1850 . Then if it should be possible to do a preliminary search at the RCB library- Rathgar, Dublin. Maybe you have exhausted all those sources already ? I will see if I can get a map showing the diocesan borders from the RCB. Assume you are also in Ontario ? Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, June 29, 2009 10:41 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Fulham research