Dave Have you any more on the Windgrove name ? And does the name Ireland & connection to Kidd & Windgrove feature ? Rgds......olding ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Griffiths" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 11:10 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? > Thanks gain for all your input. > Yes I do remember Cara saying that there was information in Dublin. But > does > the information also advise were they were born? > > In the parish return of 1766 there is a list of Names, It would be great > if > there was information were these people camefrom Regards > Dave

Suggest you look at the Family search site, if you put in the surname Ireland and place Wicklow, Ireland it will produce quite a few names to think about http://search.labs.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#p=0 happy hunting Tim Kelly Protect your PC with 50% off Norton Security - http://www.tiscali.co.uk/securepc _______________________________________________________________________

Hi I ordered the following Church Baptism for William WILLOUGHBY thinking that he was the one that I was looking for but he is not so I will share this here in case someone will claim him. Name: William Willoughby Date of Baptism/Birth 21 June 1863 Address: Hacketstown Parish/District: Hacketstown County: Co. Wicklow Denomination: Roman Catholic Father: Sam Willoughby Mother: Ann Smith Sponsor 1: Dan Doyle Sponsor 2: May Connor Regards Vicki

Christina: I have a request. On the IGP archives would it be possible to denote the denomination, if known, of the cemeteries and churches? It would help to separate entries of the same name. Frank Kernohan -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Christina Finn Hunt Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 12:27 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] New in IGP Archives this week I have just uploaded a list of Royal Irish Constabulary men with a native county of Wicklow Sep 1852-Dec 1852. RIC men were both Catholic and Protestant. They almost never served in their home county so finding them requires figuring out where they were from and or stationed. I hope to add to it as I can. If anyone wants the height of anyone named, let me know. I left it off for brevity. To view go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on WICKLOW & Military & Constabulary heading Thanks, Christina [email protected] *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.392 / Virus Database: 270.13.36/2272 - Release Date: 07/30/09 05:58:00 No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.5.409 / Virus Database: 270.13.65/2324 - Release Date: 08/24/09 12:55:00

----- Original Message ----- From: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:52 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] In the parish return of 1766 - was RE: Manning/Fromwhence they came? Val you ask where one wold get parish returnof 1766 The one I have is for Rathdrum Parish, I got this from a photo copy of film from LATTER DAY SAINTS, I will send direct a copy to you. As for the church records of my ancestors, I transribed from the orginal baptism records that were held by parish priest and at . Representative Church Body Library Braemore Park Dublin 14 plus from grave stones Regards Dave

I am now going to say loud and clear here, that yes Christina does load the data to the IGP page and yes she does do a fantastic job, and yes she is one clever lady, and a woman I admire for getting this site up and going, and among that she works, runs her family and still finds time to upload data that people share with her. But May I also say that behind Christina works a very hard woman named Joyce, and she has been gathering and posting tombstone photos in bulk to this list, and I am now saying here, whilst the page it loaded by Christina and we would be lost without her..........and I mean this genuinely Christina is a hard working dedicated worker, but even Christina would be lost without *our Joyce and her friend Irene *doing a fair slog on gathering these headstones and trancscribing them and then posting them to the IGP lists. Also what about all the others who gather or have gathered photos over the years and finally with encouragement have posted them on line, and yes this is a lecture, I feel that if you find a headstone after 10 years, of looking what about mentioning the good person who had it posted, unless it was me forget it - if it was my work, I am more worried about those volunteers that we all rely on who are not getting the praise they so much deserve. So if I have bothered any of you by my frankness, accept my apology, but I wanted everyone who has ever tramped the wet grass of an Irish cemetey to be thanked Take a bow Joyce you sure deserve one for your hard work, and to any others of you that have posted to the IGP list,. Daz is among those also. so you can take a whisky. Joyce may join you on that also. Thankyou for allowing me to say my piece Anymore people out there with data Christina can use in her IGP Irish page contact her share it allow others to use it. And many thanks for your dedication Christina, you must be an iron woman with all you do. Also whilst here may I also say this, if you are looking for an Irish Tombstone anywhere in Ireland we do have an Irish Tombstone and Cemetery and Obit list you can join that way a move can be made to seek out the headstones you are seeking............why wait 10 years? Sorry Tony but its true you could have shortened your wait by at least 8 years. Regards Cara

Cara, I would like to say thanks to you and all others who have shown their appreciation. But if the truth were known we, the volunteers are the lucky ones as we get to be out in the countryside on nice days whereas Christina has to sit behind the computer on her day off from work. Not only does Christina look after uploading Co. Wicklow items but also looks after quite a number of other counties in Ireland. If there is anyone out there with some spare time and would like to get involved in photographing headstones etc. do get in touch with me, and we can chat about it. Thanks again Joyce

Can you tell me where to access these records please ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Griffiths Sent: Monday, 24 August 2009 8:11 AM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? Thanks gain for all your input. Yes I do remember Cara saying that there was information in Dublin. But does the information also advise were they were born? In the parish return of 1766 there is a list of Names, It would be great if there was information were these people camefrom Regards Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Kavanagh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? > Thanks for the link and the info, Frank. > Guess I should have checked Rootsweb archives, because I vaguely remember > Cara talking about the Fitzwm.Hayes Indexes at the National Archives and > about the fact that she also did not schedule enough time to do lookups > due > to the nature of the records and request process. > When I get back to Dublin, I see I need to allow time to do justice to a > search. > Thanks again, > Sharon K > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Kehoe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:19 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? > > >> Sharon >> I was at the National Library, Kildare St. Dublin last week and was >> informed >> by the librarian that they held Fitzwilliam manuscripts relating to the >> Wicklow estates and tenants. I was told to consult the Hayes Indexes >> (situated next to the counter) which run to something like 20 large >> volumes, >> with some indexed according to date, others are by person and others by >> place. Once a ref. number is found (if not on film) the original >> manuscript >> can be accessed in the Manuscript Room, situated at the end of Kildare >> Street. A reader's ticket can be obtained on the day but a passport style >> photo is required. >> Several days need to be allowed for the search, I flicked through some >> but >> did not have enough time to locate any reference to Fitzwilliam >> properties >> in Wicklow Town and Dunbur where my interest lay. >> This link gives a list of Fitzwilliam related material and locations. >> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=F10803 >> >> I am sure Sheffield Archives do not restrict searches to UK citizens but >> a >> phone call will confirm. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sharon Kavanagh" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? >> >> >>> Do the Sheffield Archives hold the complete Fitzwilliam papers including >>> tenants in Wicklow, Coolatin? Does anyone know? >>> >>> Also, will Sheffield peform research for those living outside the UK? >> >> > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Can you tell me which church records and where you found them please ? Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Dave Griffiths Sent: Saturday, 22 August 2009 8:50 AM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? Help. My ancesters, Manning. Saul and Wingrove where living in Wicklow by around 1700. This I know from Church records. But what I do not know where were they living before this. As they were tentant of Earl Fitzwilliam may be the Manning came from North Yorkshire Suggestions please. Dave *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Thanks gain for all your input. Yes I do remember Cara saying that there was information in Dublin. But does the information also advise were they were born? In the parish return of 1766 there is a list of Names, It would be great if there was information were these people camefrom Regards Dave ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sharon Kavanagh" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 8:33 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? > Thanks for the link and the info, Frank. > Guess I should have checked Rootsweb archives, because I vaguely remember > Cara talking about the Fitzwm.Hayes Indexes at the National Archives and > about the fact that she also did not schedule enough time to do lookups > due > to the nature of the records and request process. > When I get back to Dublin, I see I need to allow time to do justice to a > search. > Thanks again, > Sharon K > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Frank Kehoe" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:19 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? > > >> Sharon >> I was at the National Library, Kildare St. Dublin last week and was >> informed >> by the librarian that they held Fitzwilliam manuscripts relating to the >> Wicklow estates and tenants. I was told to consult the Hayes Indexes >> (situated next to the counter) which run to something like 20 large >> volumes, >> with some indexed according to date, others are by person and others by >> place. Once a ref. number is found (if not on film) the original >> manuscript >> can be accessed in the Manuscript Room, situated at the end of Kildare >> Street. A reader's ticket can be obtained on the day but a passport style >> photo is required. >> Several days need to be allowed for the search, I flicked through some >> but >> did not have enough time to locate any reference to Fitzwilliam >> properties >> in Wicklow Town and Dunbur where my interest lay. >> This link gives a list of Fitzwilliam related material and locations. >> http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=F10803 >> >> I am sure Sheffield Archives do not restrict searches to UK citizens but >> a >> phone call will confirm. >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Sharon Kavanagh" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:16 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? >> >> >>> Do the Sheffield Archives hold the complete Fitzwilliam papers including >>> tenants in Wicklow, Coolatin? Does anyone know? >>> >>> Also, will Sheffield peform research for those living outside the UK? >> >> > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In a message dated 8/24/2009 12:04:21 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: I am searching for info from Rathdrum parish on William CLARE/CLAIR, born 1843. His father was James. Would appreciate a copy of your 1766 info also if it mentions any Clares/Clairs. Hi Shirley, Don't want to butt in, but I have a couple of records you might be interested in: William Baptized 19 February 1843, son of James Clare and Anne Clare. Sponsors were Thomas Byrne and Ellen Pluck (spelled Plook in register). I also have a Mary Baptized 1 February 1836, daughter of James Clare and Anne Clare. Sponsors were Thomas Keogh and Mary Clare. Residence given as Rathdrum. I transcribed both of the above records from microfilm # 6476 held at the National Library in Dublin. Hope they are of some use to you, Peggy

Dave, I am searching for info from Rathdrum parish on William CLARE/CLAIR, born 1843. His father was James. Would appreciate a copy of your 1766 info also if it mentions any Clares/Clairs. Shirley ----- Original Message ----- From: "Dave Griffiths" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 9:24 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] In the parish return of 1766 - was RE: Manning/Fromwhence they came? > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Valerie Garton" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Monday, August 24, 2009 12:52 PM > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] In the parish return of 1766 - was RE: > Manning/Fromwhence they came? > > Val you ask where one wold get parish returnof 1766 The one I have is for > Rathdrum Parish, I got this from a photo copy of film from LATTER DAY > SAINTS, I will send direct a copy to you. > As for the church records of my ancestors, I transribed from the orginal > baptism records that were held by parish priest and at . Representative > Church Body Library Braemore Park Dublin 14 plus from grave stones > Regards > Dave > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in > the subject and the body of the message >

But May I also say that behind Christina works a very hard woman named Joyce, and she has been gathering and posting tombstone photos in bulk to this list, and I am now saying here, whilst the page it loaded by Christina and we would be lost without her..........and I mean this genuinely Christina is a hard working dedicated worker, but even Christina would be lost without *our Joyce and her friend Irene . I owe SO much to Joyce, along with what info she has sent me, and , what we have just paid for from a Researcher. Things are falling into place, and one day in the not to distant future, I hope to be able to share our findings about our family. Still looking for Hepenstall's and variants of the spelling in Co Wicklow. Many thanks to all, you to Cara, besides the Hepenstall's on one side of the pond, you have helped me on the Coventry's in Tassie. Cheers to all, Pam in sunny Florida **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1222846709x1201493018/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072&hmpgID=115&bcd =JulystepsfooterNO115)

Cara, Thanks for mentioning all who volunteer and enter info for all of us to access. You are right; many just access the info and appreciate that it is there, but fail to thank the volunteers who make it possible. I volunteer to obtain information at 2 Chicago area cemeteries. People request the information; some don't even sign the email. Some say "Thank you". Some don't even acknowledge that they received an answer. If they receive information they lacked, I know they are pleased - even if they don't say "Thank you". God bless all the volunteers; what would we do without them. Maureen N In a message dated 8/23/2009 9:30:48 P.M. Central Daylight Time, [email protected] writes: Also what about all the others who gather or have gathered photos over the years and finally with encouragement have posted them on line, and yes this is a lecture, I feel that if you find a headstone after 10 years, of looking what about mentioning the good person who had it posted, unless it was me forget it - if it was my work, I am more worried about those volunteers that we all rely on who are not getting the praise they so much deserve.

Christina wrote: ... >I have added a site search to Wicklow.... > I hope this makes your searching easier. It does; a great improvement, many thanks Christina, Martin, (Still searching for Stephen Hayden (c1808-1865) & Margaret Cullen (c1809-1850s), pre 1841 in Co.Wicklow, pos. Baltinglass)

I believe that I am looking around Enniskerry, Wicklow. If we go by the dates used on Canadian censuses we assume that John Roe married Mary Ann Keeley by 1840. It is our suspicion that there were children born to them who did not go to Canada by 1858 or their were children who did not survive. That might mean that John and Mary Ann married in the 1830's. Children known Robert about 1840 Nicholas about 1842 Julia about 1845 John and Elizabeth Frances (twins) about 1850 Edward Thomas about 1852 Mary Ann Keeley had two sisters, Julia and Bridget. Both Julia and Bridget went to the US by 1855. There is a William Ireland who married a Keeley. William was a widower in Ireland and in New York by 1880 and then to Connecticut. William had two children who stayed behind in Ireland, Frederick William and Emily Frances. Fred and Emily went to New York about 1887 when they were about 18 years old. (There are 3 William Ireland's in Connecticut by 1900!) I believe these families to be protestant as they were high Anglican in Canada. Anyone have a clue?? Bonnie in California

Today I have uploaded the remainder of Part V of Redford Catholic Cemetery. These were done by Yvonne Russell. We have added more photos to St. Patrick's Church, Kilquade and a separate section has the interior memorials at St. Patrick's Kilquade. These were done by Joyce Tunstead. Enjoy! Christina IGP Archives http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/index.htm *Click on Wicklow and then Headstones to view the new files

Hi I have found a Mortimer Sullivan who on 1911 census says he was born Co Wicklow. He will have been born circa 1845- RC I expect. By 1901 he was the parish priest in Bannow Co wexford, he was still there 1911 by which time his nephew Stanislaus ? Sullivan was living with him aged 10 and also born Co Wicklow. looking at Familysearch.org plot site I see a probable birth for Stanislaus in the Shillelagh area. I would be keen to know where Mortimer was born and anything else about his family, you never know my elusive Bridget and Susannah Sullivans may be of the same family. carol

Thanks for the link and the info, Frank. Guess I should have checked Rootsweb archives, because I vaguely remember Cara talking about the Fitzwm.Hayes Indexes at the National Archives and about the fact that she also did not schedule enough time to do lookups due to the nature of the records and request process. When I get back to Dublin, I see I need to allow time to do justice to a search. Thanks again, Sharon K ----- Original Message ----- From: "Frank Kehoe" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 2:19 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? > Sharon > I was at the National Library, Kildare St. Dublin last week and was > informed > by the librarian that they held Fitzwilliam manuscripts relating to the > Wicklow estates and tenants. I was told to consult the Hayes Indexes > (situated next to the counter) which run to something like 20 large > volumes, > with some indexed according to date, others are by person and others by > place. Once a ref. number is found (if not on film) the original > manuscript > can be accessed in the Manuscript Room, situated at the end of Kildare > Street. A reader's ticket can be obtained on the day but a passport style > photo is required. > Several days need to be allowed for the search, I flicked through some but > did not have enough time to locate any reference to Fitzwilliam properties > in Wicklow Town and Dunbur where my interest lay. > This link gives a list of Fitzwilliam related material and locations. > http://www.nationalarchives.gov.uk/nra/searches/subjectView.asp?ID=F10803 > > I am sure Sheffield Archives do not restrict searches to UK citizens but a > phone call will confirm. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Sharon Kavanagh" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Saturday, August 22, 2009 5:16 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Manning/From whence they came? > > >> Do the Sheffield Archives hold the complete Fitzwilliam papers including >> tenants in Wicklow, Coolatin? Does anyone know? >> >> Also, will Sheffield peform research for those living outside the UK? > >

There is a picture on the website of a tombstone I have been searching for for over 10 years. THANK YOU SO MUCH! Steve and Terry Bruner 943 N. Cherry Street Galesburg, IL 61401 309-342-5328 309-221-2085 www.bczengineering.com; www.mavensofmanners.com; www.brunerbaby.com -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 12:55 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] IGP Archives Searching Dear Christina, One more example of your awesome management. Thank you. Pat Murray Scott ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Finn Hunt" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, August 23, 2009 8:07 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] IGP Archives Searching >I have added a site search to Wicklow. It is in the Table of Contents on >the > main Wicklow page. There is no drop down box to choose the county here. > But, the > good news is that each page that concerns Wicklow or any county, has that > county > name in the page header. In fact you might find something elsewhere in the > site > but not using the drop down on box that we have on the IGP Archives main > page. > > You can do a search like | Callaghan Wicklow | or | "Matthew Dunne " > Wicklow | > to look for an exact phrase. You can also click on Advanced Search to play > with > other options. We now have thousands of names on the site so it helps to > know > how to narrow down. > Also be aware that the "Kells head" graphic will take you back to the main > Archives page. > I hope this makes your searching easier. > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ire/wicklow/index.htm > Christina > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message _____ I am using the Free version of SPAMfighter <http://www.spamfighter.com/len> . We are a community of 6 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 58227 of my spam emails to date. The Professional version does not have this message.