I'd be interested as well. I have people that emigrated to US from Ireland. Don't know if they were ever naturalised, but would be interested to know what it entailed. Jane Australia -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Valerie B Garton Sent: Tuesday, 24 August 2010 9:24 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] naturalisation in US - RE: HERALD, COOK, MAHAR I have a document which I am willing to share regarding the requirements for naturalization in anyone is interested. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 10:37 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] HERALD, COOK, MAHAR I am not an expert in shipping and immigration to the US but have you drawn a blank there? Most early emigrants departed from ports like Liverpool or Glasgow. Nor do I know much about US naturalisation but would they have applied for that, leaving a record? Do you know when or where Edward and Mary Ann died and their ages at death? Sometimes gravestones record place of origin and show age at death. What State/s were they in as US records can be very regional? Have you joined Herald or Mahar surname lists? - Cook would be more difficult but not impossible either. Unfortunately their Irish dates pre-date civil registration and you will probably need these other sources to narrow down your search. However Cara has given you some good leads in the Wicklow region. The search is what it is all about! -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Herald Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 12:05 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] HERALD, COOK, MAHAR OK, Bill. Edward Herald and Mary Ann Cook had three children in the USA. 1) b. 1841 Edward Hearld (sic) 2) b. 1845 James Herald 2) Spouse1 b. 1854 Elizabeth Loftus 2) Spouse2 b. 1862 Mary Mahar 3) b. ? Unk (female) Herald I don't know when Edward and Mary Ann were born, married, or came from Ireland. I am assuming a possible birth year of Edward and Mary Ann of 1815-1820 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Webster" <wbwebster@internode.on.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? > Robert, there are plenty of us here. All lists go through lulls, more > than > made up for by frenetic activity at other times. > > It would assist receiving help if you were to give any known dates, even > approximate. Also it could pay to put your subject interest in the > subject > line. That way it may attract more appropriate attention, now or in the > future. 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I have a document which I am willing to share regarding the requirements for naturalization in anyone is interested. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 10:37 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] HERALD, COOK, MAHAR I am not an expert in shipping and immigration to the US but have you drawn a blank there? Most early emigrants departed from ports like Liverpool or Glasgow. Nor do I know much about US naturalisation but would they have applied for that, leaving a record? Do you know when or where Edward and Mary Ann died and their ages at death? Sometimes gravestones record place of origin and show age at death. What State/s were they in as US records can be very regional? Have you joined Herald or Mahar surname lists? - Cook would be more difficult but not impossible either. Unfortunately their Irish dates pre-date civil registration and you will probably need these other sources to narrow down your search. However Cara has given you some good leads in the Wicklow region. The search is what it is all about! -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Herald Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 12:05 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] HERALD, COOK, MAHAR OK, Bill. Edward Herald and Mary Ann Cook had three children in the USA. 1) b. 1841 Edward Hearld (sic) 2) b. 1845 James Herald 2) Spouse1 b. 1854 Elizabeth Loftus 2) Spouse2 b. 1862 Mary Mahar 3) b. ? Unk (female) Herald I don't know when Edward and Mary Ann were born, married, or came from Ireland. I am assuming a possible birth year of Edward and Mary Ann of 1815-1820 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Webster" <wbwebster@internode.on.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? > Robert, there are plenty of us here. All lists go through lulls, more > than > made up for by frenetic activity at other times. > > It would assist receiving help if you were to give any known dates, even > approximate. Also it could pay to put your subject interest in the > subject > line. That way it may attract more appropriate attention, now or in the > future. Bill. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Herald > Sent: Sunday, 22 August 2010 3:22 PM > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? > > > > Hello. I'm a new member to the list hoping to learn of my ancestors. From > the > > last few appends, it sounds like there are very few people here. I'll post > > anyway. > > > > My g-g-father (Edward HERALD) and his wife (Mary Ann COOK) came from > Ireland > but > > I don't know the county. My g-father (James) married Elizabeth LOFTUS, > also > from > > Ireland, also of unknown county. Elizabeth died and James married her > cousin, > > Mary E. MAHAR from Carnew, Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland. The thought is, > perhaps > > someone knows about the LOFTUS-MAHAR connection in Wicklow. Does anything > sound > > familiar? > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3086 - Release Date: 08/22/10 04:35:00 *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3086 - Release Date: 08/23/10 04:35:00

Yes Valerie I would love to have a copy if possible Margaret Enright Menright2@cogeco.ca Burlington, Ontario -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Valerie B Garton Sent: Monday, August 23, 2010 7:24 PM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] naturalisation in US - RE: HERALD, COOK, MAHAR I have a document which I am willing to share regarding the requirements for naturalization in anyone is interested. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Bill Webster Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 10:37 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] HERALD, COOK, MAHAR I am not an expert in shipping and immigration to the US but have you drawn a blank there? Most early emigrants departed from ports like Liverpool or Glasgow. Nor do I know much about US naturalisation but would they have applied for that, leaving a record? Do you know when or where Edward and Mary Ann died and their ages at death? Sometimes gravestones record place of origin and show age at death. What State/s were they in as US records can be very regional? Have you joined Herald or Mahar surname lists? - Cook would be more difficult but not impossible either. Unfortunately their Irish dates pre-date civil registration and you will probably need these other sources to narrow down your search. However Cara has given you some good leads in the Wicklow region. The search is what it is all about! -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Herald Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 12:05 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] HERALD, COOK, MAHAR OK, Bill. Edward Herald and Mary Ann Cook had three children in the USA. 1) b. 1841 Edward Hearld (sic) 2) b. 1845 James Herald 2) Spouse1 b. 1854 Elizabeth Loftus 2) Spouse2 b. 1862 Mary Mahar 3) b. ? Unk (female) Herald I don't know when Edward and Mary Ann were born, married, or came from Ireland. I am assuming a possible birth year of Edward and Mary Ann of 1815-1820 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Webster" <wbwebster@internode.on.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? > Robert, there are plenty of us here. All lists go through lulls, more > than > made up for by frenetic activity at other times. > > It would assist receiving help if you were to give any known dates, even > approximate. Also it could pay to put your subject interest in the > subject > line. That way it may attract more appropriate attention, now or in the > future. 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Thank you Golding; I am already contributing to this website and in fact found the General's son and his family sailing to the America in 1836 on the John Jay. They knew nothing about this previously. Ber Holt and I are also in contact. Carole -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of GOLDING KIDD Sent: 23 August 2010 11:29 To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] We're still here - Holt's Carole There is a Holt website which is organised by Lionel Holt in Australia. It deals with the story General (Joseph) Holt an important element in the 1798 Irish Rebellion ! Thw following is one of the websites Holt Family Fellowship - about us Holt Family Fellowship Flag General Joseph Holt ... Joseph Holt 1756 - 1826, A Rum Story, Peter O'Shaughnessy editor, 1988, p.53. ... www.joseph-holt.org/about_us.php - Cached - Similar Show more results from www.joseph-holt.org There are many other websites that will help you in your search Cheers Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: <carolec55@talktalk.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 6:37 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] We're still here *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I'm so glad you're back and feeling better Cara. You've got me really excited now; can hardly wait to see what you have. Regards Carole -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara Links Sent: 22 August 2010 19:12 To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] HOLT and CURRAN My apologies you just jogged my memory I must make an appointment now I am feeling better to meet with possibly one of your relatives Watch this space for further input Cara ----- Original Message ---- From: "carolec55@talktalk.net" <carolec55@talktalk.net> To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 6:37:07 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] We're still here Hi all, I guess most listers are like me; after posting my interest we just wait in the forlorn hope someone will mention an individual we recognise. Several months later I will post and wait again. So we are still here. In particular I'm looking for mention of my Holt ancestors. Joseph Holt (b about 1796) married Mary (b 1801) in Ireland and had daughter Letitia Holt (about 1825 in Ireland). Letitia married Patrick Byrne in Liverpool Lancashire in 1845 after the family moved there about 1827. Patrick Byrne's father was Lawrence Byrne a Corn dealer. I'm also looking for John Curran (bricklayer b Ireland) who was residing in Liverpool with the above Joseph Holt and later with his own parents Owen Curran (b 1791, dock labourer), and his wife Jane Curran (b 1801). Patrick Curran (b 1816, car proprietor) and Owen Lockey (b 1817, dock labourer) were nephews of Owen and Jane Curran. John Curran's age is 15 in the 1841census; he was 37 in the 1861 census when he was back with the Holt family. So I guess he was born around 1824. Carole *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carole There is a Holt website which is organised by Lionel Holt in Australia. It deals with the story General (Joseph) Holt an important element in the 1798 Irish Rebellion ! Thw following is one of the websites Holt Family Fellowship - about us Holt Family Fellowship Flag General Joseph Holt ... Joseph Holt 1756 - 1826, A Rum Story, Peter O'Shaughnessy editor, 1988, p.53. ... www.joseph-holt.org/about_us.php - Cached - Similar Show more results from www.joseph-holt.org There are many other websites that will help you in your search Cheers Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: <carolec55@talktalk.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 6:37 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] We're still here

I am not an expert in shipping and immigration to the US but have you drawn a blank there? Most early emigrants departed from ports like Liverpool or Glasgow. Nor do I know much about US naturalisation but would they have applied for that, leaving a record? Do you know when or where Edward and Mary Ann died and their ages at death? Sometimes gravestones record place of origin and show age at death. What State/s were they in as US records can be very regional? Have you joined Herald or Mahar surname lists? - Cook would be more difficult but not impossible either. Unfortunately their Irish dates pre-date civil registration and you will probably need these other sources to narrow down your search. However Cara has given you some good leads in the Wicklow region. The search is what it is all about! -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Herald Sent: Monday, 23 August 2010 12:05 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] HERALD, COOK, MAHAR OK, Bill. Edward Herald and Mary Ann Cook had three children in the USA. 1) b. 1841 Edward Hearld (sic) 2) b. 1845 James Herald 2) Spouse1 b. 1854 Elizabeth Loftus 2) Spouse2 b. 1862 Mary Mahar 3) b. ? Unk (female) Herald I don't know when Edward and Mary Ann were born, married, or came from Ireland. I am assuming a possible birth year of Edward and Mary Ann of 1815-1820 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Webster" <wbwebster@internode.on.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? > Robert, there are plenty of us here. All lists go through lulls, more > than > made up for by frenetic activity at other times. > > It would assist receiving help if you were to give any known dates, even > approximate. Also it could pay to put your subject interest in the > subject > line. That way it may attract more appropriate attention, now or in the > future. Bill. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Herald > Sent: Sunday, 22 August 2010 3:22 PM > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? > > > > Hello. I'm a new member to the list hoping to learn of my ancestors. From > the > > last few appends, it sounds like there are very few people here. I'll post > > anyway. > > > > My g-g-father (Edward HERALD) and his wife (Mary Ann COOK) came from > Ireland > but > > I don't know the county. My g-father (James) married Elizabeth LOFTUS, > also > from > > Ireland, also of unknown county. Elizabeth died and James married her > cousin, > > Mary E. MAHAR from Carnew, Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland. The thought is, > perhaps > > someone knows about the LOFTUS-MAHAR connection in Wicklow. Does anything > sound > > familiar? > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.851 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3086 - Release Date: 08/22/10 04:35:00

Bill, If you go to the Irish Times website page which enumerates the frequency of family names in Ireland circa 1890, you may get some idea of where the families originated. _http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm?fuseaction=Go.&UserID_ (http://www.irishtimes.com/ancestor/surname/index.cfm?fuseaction=Go.&UserID) = Based on this info, you can go to the _www.rootsireland.ie_ (http://www.rootsireland.ie) website and search for Harold/Herald/Herold etc church baptism indexes and the Cook/Cooke church baptism indexes for those counties. I did not find an Edward Herald(etc) listing. Looks like the families likely came from the northern counties. On the Rootsireland website, the search is free. If you find what you think is a match, to view each record is 5 Euros, whether it is the correct record or not. Since there are certain counties where these families resided (northern counties), you might try checking Griffiths Valuation for these counties (i.e. Donegal). Though your gr grandparents were already gone from Ireland, many of the given names were repeated from generation to generation and thus may give you some additional clues as to where the family resided before they left for the US. Maureen N In a message dated 8/22/2010 7:36:58 P.M. Central Daylight Time, wbwebster@internode.on.net writes: I don't know when Edward and Mary Ann were born, married, or came from Ireland. I am assuming a possible birth year of Edward and Mary Ann of 1815-1820

Hi all, I guess most listers are like me; after posting my interest we just wait in the forlorn hope someone will mention an individual we recognise. Several months later I will post and wait again. So we are still here. In particular I'm looking for mention of my Holt ancestors. Joseph Holt (b about 1796) married Mary (b 1801) in Ireland and had daughter Letitia Holt (about 1825 in Ireland). Letitia married Patrick Byrne in Liverpool Lancashire in 1845 after the family moved there about 1827. Patrick Byrne's father was Lawrence Byrne a Corn dealer. I'm also looking for John Curran (bricklayer b Ireland) who was residing in Liverpool with the above Joseph Holt and later with his own parents Owen Curran (b 1791, dock labourer), and his wife Jane Curran (b 1801). Patrick Curran (b 1816, car proprietor) and Owen Lockey (b 1817, dock labourer) were nephews of Owen and Jane Curran. John Curran's age is 15 in the 1841census; he was 37 in the 1861 census when he was back with the Holt family. So I guess he was born around 1824. Carole

Robert, there are plenty of us here. All lists go through lulls, more than made up for by frenetic activity at other times. It would assist receiving help if you were to give any known dates, even approximate. Also it could pay to put your subject interest in the subject line. That way it may attract more appropriate attention, now or in the future. Bill. -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Herald Sent: Sunday, 22 August 2010 3:22 PM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? Hello. I'm a new member to the list hoping to learn of my ancestors. From the last few appends, it sounds like there are very few people here. I'll post anyway. My g-g-father (Edward HERALD) and his wife (Mary Ann COOK) came from Ireland but I don't know the county. My g-father (James) married Elizabeth LOFTUS, also from Ireland, also of unknown county. Elizabeth died and James married her cousin, Mary E. MAHAR from Carnew, Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland. The thought is, perhaps someone knows about the LOFTUS-MAHAR connection in Wicklow. Does anything sound familiar?

No need to wonder the list simply ground to a HOLT ( No pun intended) when I took myself out of Tasmania to Ireland It happens but as I have said give until the end of September and you will be wishing you had not stirred my zing for research, and no your mail is not being spammed by us, from Rootsweb, I just left things at a slow pace to ease my burdens whilst i took a well earned Holiday. But seeing as you are all waking up and wondering about things I may pull a few things out of my mystery bag, but as I have said dont forget to check the Archives of the IGP CO WICKLOW list and see what Chris has placed there- Because i suspect Joyce is still clicking away in this sunshine, and adding data to that archive for Wicklow Also dont forget the newer net sites that are posting bits and pieces I cannot list the URL for now, but it does lead me to ask, how many of you located family in the 1901-1911 census and connected some dots............? Cara ----- Original Message ---- From: Pat Scott <patscott42@comcast.net> To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 12:50:16 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] PEGGY LEONARD Cara, I've been wondering about the list altogether. This is the first post I've received in, it seems, several weeks. I know you were ill, but other than that, I wonder if my server is dumping this mail in spam? Pat Murray Scott *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

My apologies you just jogged my memory I must make an appointment now I am feeling better to meet with possibly one of your relatives Watch this space for further input Cara ----- Original Message ---- From: "carolec55@talktalk.net" <carolec55@talktalk.net> To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Sent: Sun, August 22, 2010 6:37:07 PM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] We're still here Hi all, I guess most listers are like me; after posting my interest we just wait in the forlorn hope someone will mention an individual we recognise. Several months later I will post and wait again. So we are still here. In particular I'm looking for mention of my Holt ancestors. Joseph Holt (b about 1796) married Mary (b 1801) in Ireland and had daughter Letitia Holt (about 1825 in Ireland). Letitia married Patrick Byrne in Liverpool Lancashire in 1845 after the family moved there about 1827. Patrick Byrne's father was Lawrence Byrne a Corn dealer. I'm also looking for John Curran (bricklayer b Ireland) who was residing in Liverpool with the above Joseph Holt and later with his own parents Owen Curran (b 1791, dock labourer), and his wife Jane Curran (b 1801). Patrick Curran (b 1816, car proprietor) and Owen Lockey (b 1817, dock labourer) were nephews of Owen and Jane Curran. John Curran's age is 15 in the 1841census; he was 37 in the 1861 census when he was back with the Holt family. So I guess he was born around 1824. Carole *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Well there is many people on this list, active and in active, but they are all there, but as summer descends on whatever part of the world lists slow to an all time halt, this year I am on holiday, and not razzing the list to its full peak, but you stay with us and see what happens by the end of September, when I have myself back in my office, where I will be adding more papers to the already huge file that sits there gathering dust. Yes Robert right now we may be slow, but we wont be soon But on the point of Mahar - Herald and Cook although i did take a quick sweep of my data base i did not see the name Herald, but that is all that is traveling with me at the moment is my data base, not other books etc and parish registers. Mahar name is still found in Avoca and I would suggest just for an exercise you do look at the Co Wicklow IGP page and look at the headstone photos and transcripts on there to see if the name has been gleaned for that area and in the archives of that wonderful page. And be patient, this list would be one of the happiest lists I have ever had anything to do with for Ireland. The name Loftus is associated with Wexford as well did you know this? Cheers Cara exercising her very in holiday mode brain ---

YOOOHOOOOOO.........Over here.... :o) In a message dated 8/22/2010 3:14:27 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, irl-wicklow-request@rootsweb.com writes: Having not heard or seen Peggy online for some-time I am wondering if anyone has heard, or seen from Peggy.? Cara

OK, Bill. Edward Herald and Mary Ann Cook had three children in the USA. 1) b. 1841 Edward Hearld (sic) 2) b. 1845 James Herald 2) Spouse1 b. 1854 Elizabeth Loftus 2) Spouse2 b. 1862 Mary Mahar 3) b. ? Unk (female) Herald I don't know when Edward and Mary Ann were born, married, or came from Ireland. I am assuming a possible birth year of Edward and Mary Ann of 1815-1820 Robert ----- Original Message ----- From: "Bill Webster" <wbwebster@internode.on.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2010 12:28 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? > Robert, there are plenty of us here. All lists go through lulls, more > than > made up for by frenetic activity at other times. > > It would assist receiving help if you were to give any known dates, even > approximate. Also it could pay to put your subject interest in the > subject > line. That way it may attract more appropriate attention, now or in the > future. Bill. > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Robert Herald > Sent: Sunday, 22 August 2010 3:22 PM > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Very few people? > > > > Hello. I'm a new member to the list hoping to learn of my ancestors. From > the > > last few appends, it sounds like there are very few people here. I'll post > > anyway. > > > > My g-g-father (Edward HERALD) and his wife (Mary Ann COOK) came from > Ireland > but > > I don't know the county. My g-father (James) married Elizabeth LOFTUS, > also > from > > Ireland, also of unknown county. Elizabeth died and James married her > cousin, > > Mary E. MAHAR from Carnew, Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland. The thought is, > perhaps > > someone knows about the LOFTUS-MAHAR connection in Wicklow. Does anything > sound > > familiar? > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello. I'm a new member to the list hoping to learn of my ancestors. From the last few appends, it sounds like there are very few people here. I'll post anyway.   My g-g-father (Edward HERALD) and his wife (Mary Ann COOK) came from Ireland but I don't know the county. My g-father (James) married Elizabeth LOFTUS, also from Ireland, also of unknown county. Elizabeth died and James married her cousin, Mary E. MAHAR from Carnew, Wicklow, Leinster, Ireland. The thought is, perhaps someone knows about the LOFTUS-MAHAR connection in Wicklow. Does anything sound familiar?

Cara writes : Having not heard or seen Peggy online for some-time This list has been very quiet, I have nothing to offer at this time, maybe others are the same. Cheers, Pam( in hot, humid Pensacola) *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cara, I've been wondering about the list altogether. This is the first post I've received in, it seems, several weeks. I know you were ill, but other than that, I wonder if my server is dumping this mail in spam? Pat Murray Scott

Dear Listers, Having not heard or seen Peggy online for some-time I am wondering if anyone has heard, or seen from Peggy.? Genuine concern makes me ask this via the list, she is seldom this quiet for this long, being a sharing person I assume our Peggy is busy, and am just checking on her and that she is alright. Yours concerned Cara

Hi Folks I think I have begun to crack another VALENTINE generation. Thomas V (of Donoghmore) married Charlotte MORRIS (of Ballynure) on 11 Oct 1833 in Ballynure. (This from a transcript of the register). One of the witnesses was ANDREW MORRIS. Perhaps her father or brother? Thomas and Charlotte lived in Roundwood from 1833 and the Derralossery registers are destroyed until about 1878 for baptisms and burials but exist from 1844 for marraiges. I have located 4 of their children from their marriage details (born about 1834, 1837, 1840 and 1847) However if you search Griffiths Valuation you find an Andrew Valentine living in a house near Laragh that was owned by the Mining Co. Of Ireland (along with about 30 others). The only other Andrew valentine I find died in 1885 (index of BMDs for Ireland) and it suggests he was born about 1835. This "lone" Valentine always puzzled me and I begin to wonder if he could have been a child of Thomas and Charlotte? I am wondering if anybody knows if there are any records for the miners around Glendalough? (I have seen others postings on this list about Aoca mines) Regards Brendan