On Wed, Oct 6, 2010 at 3:47 AM, Cara_Links <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> wrote: >  Im thnkng E Byrne baptised > Avoca rc 1833 daughter of Dennis Byrne and Margaret MAY BE MINE? > > Margaret McHugh? and Denis Byrne have Mary Anne 1825 in Avoca ( full date > available) > > > > Denis and Margaret - 4/5/1837 Margaret - Sponsors James Bingham and Ellen > Bingham > I am guessing this child is still  Denis and Margaret Byrnes nee McHugh > child..........unles someone else can clear that up perfectly she will stay > in my file under suspect child. > Hi Cara I too believe that this is the same Byrne family- but whether they are mine or not is anybodys guess. Just thought Id remnd you of an old mail of mine Jul2008 when I posted my transcrption of Mary Ann Byrnes baptism1828- i thought mams name was McKiev when i saw the film in Dublin library but i have big question marks next to it so you are probably right with YOUR TRANSCRIPTION OF MCHUGH, Im thinking you have had a touch more experience than me in this:) BTW Mary Anns sponsors- again accordng to me were Thos and Margaret Bringham AND E Byrne (Esther?) 1833 had John Bringham as a sponsor. I see you have Margarets sponsors in 1838 James and Ellen Bingham Looks like the Binghams and Denis and Margaret Byrne liked each other? carol

Im thnkng E Byrne baptised Avoca rc 1833 daughter of Dennis Byrne and Margaret MAY BE MINE? Margaret McHugh? and Denis Byrne have Mary Anne 1825 in Avoca ( full date available) Denis and Margaret - 4/5/1837 Margaret - Sponsors James Bingham and Ellen Bingham I am guessing this child is still Denis and Margaret Byrnes nee McHugh child..........unles someone else can clear that up perfectly she will stay in my file under suspect child. Dont forget to look for Owen as well as Eugene was interchangeable to such And if you are going to BYRNE search, you can put me in any family tree, becos you have to be a nutter to take that name on Carol Cheers Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "carol griffiths" <cgavoca@gmail.com> To: "irl-wicklow" <IRL-WICKLOW@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 2:23 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Roll call DONNELLY and BYRNE > John DONNELLY was my gg grandad. > I know he came from Co Wicklow as 1861 English census return states > so. The census shows him to have been born circa 1829. He was a iron > ore miner. > > The first record I have of him in Wicklow is Avoca rc parish records > John Donnelly married Esther Byrne (Byrne my translation and very > illegible writng from reel of film in Dublin library) on 26 Sept 1853, > witnesses were ? Connors and Julia Donnelly. > > Then 31 Dec 1854 again Avoca RC parish they had baby Mary- my g > grandmother, sponsors were Martin Naughton and Julia Donnelly. > > Griffiths val has him in Cronebane living next door to a Michael Donnelly. > > I have today found a baptism of a baby Eugeneus Donnelly to a John and > Esther Donnelly in Bray RC records 1859 curtesy of Irish Roots free > search. Could this be mine? > > By February 1861 John Donnelly is in West Cumberland England, he is a > witness at a Julia Donnellys wedding (her father was James donnelly a > deceased iron miner) and by 1861 England census they are next door > neighbours. > > John is shown to be born 1829, his wife Esther circa 1833 and little > Mary 1855. There is no mention of Eugeneus and he isnt in english > death records. > > John is next mentioned on his wife Esthers death cert in 1870. Esther > is named as wife of John Donnelly an iron miner rather than widow so i > assume he is still alive. Esther dies of longstanding asthma, by now > her age has shot up to 48 so once agin all ages are taken with a pinch > of salt. > > The next and last mention I have of John is that he is shown as Mary > Donnellys father on her marriage cert to Patrick Niles 1870, he is > stll an iron miner. What happened to him? > > Patrick Niles and Mary Donnelly moved to the North East of England a > few years after gettng married, as far as i know they didnt maintain > contact with their families. > > I have lots of theories on connections to mining Donnellys in Wicklow. > (Mainly that Julia was Johns sister? and maybe she was baptised Judith > in Avoca rc records and hes there too both with father James Donnelly > and mam Mary McDonnell- yet to be proved) > > What Im hoping for is as ever to find out what happened to John, to > get a clearer spelling on his wife Esthers maiden name cos I so want > to be a Byrne and fit Cara on my tree. Im thnkng E Byrne baptised > Avoca rc 1833 daughter of Dennis Byrne and Margaret MAY BE MINE? > > My latest obsession will be to find out if little Eugeneus is mine. > Anyone got access to Bray rc registers 1859? I guess all I would gain > would be sponsors names but you never know. Equally if anyone knows of > another John and Esther Donnelly who were in the area do let me know. > > CAROL > Wicklow names Niles Donnelly Sullivan Byrne > Fermanagh names I am seeking Harron Love > Tyrone names I am seeking Conway > Ireland names I am seeking McMullen Roney > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3171 - Release Date: 10/02/10 04:34:00

Wow at this rate we will all be in one big tree. Wouldnt that be great. I hope you tell us how dna helps you i fancied it fot christmas for ages now. I have gone in circles with avoca byrnes for some time now so can see nutter status looming for me definately. Cara you have provided us with so much over the years i can hardly sleep. What im looking for is as many esther byrne marriages circa 1845_1860 as poss to try and work out who is who. Oh and any little genes hughs owens or whatever else the name eugeneus throws up. Simple. Carol

Oh, Cara.....the results of my mtDNA and Autosomal DNA tests are coming back....AND......one of the relatives that showed up as linked to me has a BYRNE relie....so perhaps we are linked after all!!! hugs, m Mary Villalba SS United States Conservancy Secretary, Board of Directors (303) 290-8415 Tele P. O. Box 6569 Denver, CO 80206 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Cara_Links" <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> Sent: Tuesday, October 05, 2010 8:47 PM To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] DENIS BYRNE MARGARET MCHUGH > Im thnkng E Byrne baptised > Avoca rc 1833 daughter of Dennis Byrne and Margaret MAY BE MINE? > > Margaret McHugh? and Denis Byrne have Mary Anne 1825 in Avoca ( full date > available) > > > > Denis and Margaret - 4/5/1837 Margaret - Sponsors James Bingham and Ellen > Bingham > I am guessing this child is still Denis and Margaret Byrnes nee McHugh > child..........unles someone else can clear that up perfectly she will > stay > in my file under suspect child. > > Dont forget to look for Owen as well as Eugene was interchangeable to > such > > And if you are going to BYRNE search, you can put me in any family tree, > becos you have to be a nutter to take that name on Carol > > Cheers > Cara > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "carol griffiths" <cgavoca@gmail.com> > To: "irl-wicklow" <IRL-WICKLOW@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Saturday, October 02, 2010 2:23 AM > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Roll call DONNELLY and BYRNE > > >> John DONNELLY was my gg grandad. >> I know he came from Co Wicklow as 1861 English census return states >> so. The census shows him to have been born circa 1829. He was a iron >> ore miner. >> >> The first record I have of him in Wicklow is Avoca rc parish records >> John Donnelly married Esther Byrne (Byrne my translation and very >> illegible writng from reel of film in Dublin library) on 26 Sept 1853, >> witnesses were ? Connors and Julia Donnelly. >> >> Then 31 Dec 1854 again Avoca RC parish they had baby Mary- my g >> grandmother, sponsors were Martin Naughton and Julia Donnelly. >> >> Griffiths val has him in Cronebane living next door to a Michael >> Donnelly. >> >> I have today found a baptism of a baby Eugeneus Donnelly to a John and >> Esther Donnelly in Bray RC records 1859 curtesy of Irish Roots free >> search. Could this be mine? >> >> By February 1861 John Donnelly is in West Cumberland England, he is a >> witness at a Julia Donnellys wedding (her father was James donnelly a >> deceased iron miner) and by 1861 England census they are next door >> neighbours. >> >> John is shown to be born 1829, his wife Esther circa 1833 and little >> Mary 1855. There is no mention of Eugeneus and he isnt in english >> death records. >> >> John is next mentioned on his wife Esthers death cert in 1870. Esther >> is named as wife of John Donnelly an iron miner rather than widow so i >> assume he is still alive. Esther dies of longstanding asthma, by now >> her age has shot up to 48 so once agin all ages are taken with a pinch >> of salt. >> >> The next and last mention I have of John is that he is shown as Mary >> Donnellys father on her marriage cert to Patrick Niles 1870, he is >> stll an iron miner. What happened to him? >> >> Patrick Niles and Mary Donnelly moved to the North East of England a >> few years after gettng married, as far as i know they didnt maintain >> contact with their families. >> >> I have lots of theories on connections to mining Donnellys in Wicklow. >> (Mainly that Julia was Johns sister? and maybe she was baptised Judith >> in Avoca rc records and hes there too both with father James Donnelly >> and mam Mary McDonnell- yet to be proved) >> >> What Im hoping for is as ever to find out what happened to John, to >> get a clearer spelling on his wife Esthers maiden name cos I so want >> to be a Byrne and fit Cara on my tree. Im thnkng E Byrne baptised >> Avoca rc 1833 daughter of Dennis Byrne and Margaret MAY BE MINE? >> >> My latest obsession will be to find out if little Eugeneus is mine. >> Anyone got access to Bray rc registers 1859? I guess all I would gain >> would be sponsors names but you never know. Equally if anyone knows of >> another John and Esther Donnelly who were in the area do let me know. >> >> CAROL >> Wicklow names Niles Donnelly Sullivan Byrne >> Fermanagh names I am seeking Harron Love >> Tyrone names I am seeking Conway >> Ireland names I am seeking McMullen Roney >> *************************************** >> 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer >> >> 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG - www.avg.com > Version: 9.0.856 / Virus Database: 271.1.1/3171 - Release Date: 10/02/10 > 04:34:00 > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I have found Timothy Farrell in the 1901 Census, lived in house 22, which he owned (Coolkenna, Aghowle, Wicklow). He was there with his wife Eliza and grandson Timothy Farrell who was 13 years of age. In 1911 Timothy is now deceased, Eliza is living in house 29 that is owned by James H. Dagg, there was a Margaret Dagg who lived next door to Timothy and Eliza in 1901. Living with Eliza is her daughter Margaret, age 37 along with her husband Michael Walsh, and their 3 year old daughter Elizabeth. Their grandson Timothy is still living with Eliza who is now 23 years of age. Eliza is 83 years old. I believe my great grandfather James Francis Farrell was born to Timothy and Eliza, July 20, 1867 but have not been able to find the record. Would love to find where Timothy and Eliza are buried and any information about the birth of James. I know Eliza had 10 children and 4 were still living in 1911. She was married to Timothy for 40 years. Any information on this family would be greatly appreciated Alyce Herrera

Hi Hoping for anything here. All I know of my Sullivans is Bridget Sullivan married John Niles 1847 Wicklow Cof I church - both were full age. At the time she lived in Wicklow, a couple of months later she was in Avoca RC parish having kids baptised, Susan then Patrick then Robert. Im assumng she died 1851- 1856 in Avoca area. A sponsor of little Susan was Susan Sullivan and Bridgets dad was Patrick Sullivan a labourer. I dont even know if Bridget was born in Co Wicklow Any Sullivan info please. -- Carol Wicklow names Niles Donnelly Sullivan Byrne Fermanagh names I am seeking Harron Love Tyrone names I am seeking Conway Ireland names I am seeking McMullen Roney

John DONNELLY was my gg grandad. I know he came from Co Wicklow as 1861 English census return states so. The census shows him to have been born circa 1829. He was a iron ore miner. The first record I have of him in Wicklow is Avoca rc parish records John Donnelly married Esther Byrne (Byrne my translation and very illegible writng from reel of film in Dublin library) on 26 Sept 1853, witnesses were ? Connors and Julia Donnelly. Then 31 Dec 1854 again Avoca RC parish they had baby Mary- my g grandmother, sponsors were Martin Naughton and Julia Donnelly. Griffiths val has him in Cronebane living next door to a Michael Donnelly. I have today found a baptism of a baby Eugeneus Donnelly to a John and Esther Donnelly in Bray RC records 1859 curtesy of Irish Roots free search. Could this be mine? By February 1861 John Donnelly is in West Cumberland England, he is a witness at a Julia Donnellys wedding (her father was James donnelly a deceased iron miner) and by 1861 England census they are next door neighbours. John is shown to be born 1829, his wife Esther circa 1833 and little Mary 1855. There is no mention of Eugeneus and he isnt in english death records. John is next mentioned on his wife Esthers death cert in 1870. Esther is named as wife of John Donnelly an iron miner rather than widow so i assume he is still alive. Esther dies of longstanding asthma, by now her age has shot up to 48 so once agin all ages are taken with a pinch of salt. The next and last mention I have of John is that he is shown as Mary Donnellys father on her marriage cert to Patrick Niles 1870, he is stll an iron miner. What happened to him? Patrick Niles and Mary Donnelly moved to the North East of England a few years after gettng married, as far as i know they didnt maintain contact with their families. I have lots of theories on connections to mining Donnellys in Wicklow. (Mainly that Julia was Johns sister? and maybe she was baptised Judith in Avoca rc records and hes there too both with father James Donnelly and mam Mary McDonnell- yet to be proved) What Im hoping for is as ever to find out what happened to John, to get a clearer spelling on his wife Esthers maiden name cos I so want to be a Byrne and fit Cara on my tree. Im thnkng E Byrne baptised Avoca rc 1833 daughter of Dennis Byrne and Margaret MAY BE MINE? My latest obsession will be to find out if little Eugeneus is mine. Anyone got access to Bray rc registers 1859? I guess all I would gain would be sponsors names but you never know. Equally if anyone knows of another John and Esther Donnelly who were in the area do let me know. CAROL Wicklow names Niles Donnelly Sullivan Byrne Fermanagh names I am seeking Harron Love Tyrone names I am seeking Conway Ireland names I am seeking McMullen Roney

Heres Hoping! John NILES stated he was born Co Wicklow on english census returns 1871 to 1891. He died AGED 64 in Sept 1895 in West Cumberland England. 1891 census saw him also 64, 1881 he was 60 and 1871 he was 45. His birth year could be 1820-1831 ish. He was my g g grandad. John NILES is first found in Co Wicklow 4th March 1847. I have a copy of his marriage cert to Bridget Sulavan. The marriage was in Wicklow Church of ireland in Wicklow Town. John NILES was a labourer living in Castle McAdam Coy Wcklow and his father was John NILES- also a labourer. Bridget was livng in Wicklow Town and her father was Patrick Sulavan who was a labourer. John was able to sign his name unlike Bridget. The witnesses were William McPhail and John Milar. Both gave their ages as full age. John NILES next turns up in Avoca RC parish records. On 7 May 1847 he and Bridget have baby Susan baptised. The sponsor was Susan Sullivan. I have no further info on either of these Susans. On 7 June Patrick is baptised- he is my g grandad. Elizabeth Kavanagh is the sponsor. On 16 Feb 1851 Robert is baptised, sponsors beng William Cleary and Bridget Tierney. Griffiths Valuation has John NILES at Knockanree Upper (1854?) John NILES s next found n Avoca RC parish records 1856(curtesy of irish roots free search) By now his wife is Ann and baby Ann is baptised 1856. dont know Anns surname or sponsors. 1858 has Elizabeth baptised ,again Johns wife is Ann and the family are in Avoca RC records curtesy of free search on Irish Roots. Census returns in England show 2 further additions to John and Anns family- john and Ellen both born Co Wicklow circa 1862. I havent found any records of these in ireland... yet. The family move to the Iron Mining area of West Cumberland England by 23 Jan 1865. The first record I have is a death cert of little Ann Niles (baptised 1856). She was burnt to death by her clothes catching fire in Winder Brow. 1871 shows John NILES, his wife Ann, son Robert (Bridgets son), their son John and daughters Elizabeth and Ellen in Winder Cumberland. John is an iron ore miner. By now Patrick is a newlywed having married Mary Donnelly my g grandmother- another Wicklow girl. Patrick is also a miner living in the area. 1881 sees John still working as a miner in the area. His daughter Elizabeth NILES is soon to marry Thomas BRANNON who was also born Co Wicklow. They have a large family in Cumberland. Ellen marries William Robinson, nothing is known about him, and John marries a widow Bridget watters nee Devitt. She was born approx 1861 in Co Wicklow- her father beng Hugh DEVITT - an iron ore miner. By 1891 John NILES is working as a labourer until hs death 1895 from Chronic Bronchitis. Im amazed at how much I now know about John NILES. I have had the honour of visiting the Avoca area of Wicklow and the area of Cumberland where he moved to on leaving Ireland. Both are beautiful places, I hope he had time to see the beauty during his hard life. I dream of knowing more about him, especially his baptism (Im leaning to Church of Ireland but not exclusively) and who mam and dad were. saying that any snippet about him and the people he rubbed shoulders with would be great, especially sponsors of Elizabeth and Ann, baptism records of John and Ellen and what 2nd wife Anns name was. Im ASSUMNG Bridget died after Roberts brth 1851 and he married Ann before little Anns baptsm 1856. Goes without sayng all deviations of NILES welcome. -- Carol Wicklow names Niles Donnelly Sullivan Byrne Fermanagh names I am seeking Harron Love Tyrone names I am seeking Conway Ireland names I am seeking McMullen Roney

Dear Cara, I'm so sorry you were ill in Ireland, but it sounds as though you did get to enjoy your visit after all. I appreciate all that you do for the list. I hope you are completely well again. Verlaine in Southern California

Cara: Sorry to hear you have been under the weather again but glad to hear you are on the mend. You have done so much for so many and spent so many holidays assisting us no need to ever apoligize. Looking forward to you pictures and anything snippets you many post as always. Kindest regards Charlene

Cara, I am so glad you were able to enjoy a holiday. You, who does so much for others, really does deserve some 'down' time. I can wait for as long as it takes to find my elusive ancestors, I've waited this long anyway. Hoping that you have fully recovered (or are on your way). We miss your input..it's always valuable. Jane Sullivan Australia -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 1:43 PM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA Carol, My efforts in Ireland were very little BUT I need to tell all so they understand the situation I found myself in, when I reached Ireland, I became very ill and the illness ( a new one) did not allow me to get around as I desired, so researching was placed on the back burner, and I did little things, like just enjoy being in Ireland, which of course was not a little thing, many friends I intended to meet up with and meet also for the first time, were placed in the ( to do next trip basket for I am going to return once more to Ireland) so therefore no I did not follow through on your Jones family, I never even looked for my own family. But I may have gathered snippets who knows I just wrote and wrote on the days I was able to visit the Library in Dublin. And as I began to feel my old self again, which was towards the end of my trip, time continued to tick at a double rate, so I put on my best smile, my best walking shoes, and simply accepted it was not going to be a researching holiday, but a holiday to rest, and enjoy the scenery, so with my camera on my shoulder a prayer on my lips I went off and for the first time in 20 years I became simply a tourist in Ireland, oh what a delight it was the weather was kind, ( only 5 days rain) and the the short trips I was able to endure, I added many many photos of nothing but delightful scenery ( with a headstone and church or two) to my already large file. I am sorry for those I intended to do things for, but these things as they say are sent to try us, this time they tried me, I did not appreciate the asthma like condition I developed but I beat it in the end, and for a few weeks I revelled in no researching, and just being content to use my camera. So my apolgies to those of you who are waiting on bits n pieces on your research, and all that ( but dont think I did not harvest bits n pieces I did) But I simply concentrated on gathering with a wide open view to it being helpful to simply anyone who is on the lists I admin. I am now home where it is freezing and typing up some things, I will be loading pictures to the net, and will supply a link to my photos if anyone is at all intereted in seeing Ireland through my eyes. Thankyou for being a great list working along slowly whilst I simply ducked in and out and read snips n snaps of mails that appeared. I remain your friend Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Nelson" <wncn66@bluemarble.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] ROLL CALL SUGGESTIONS > Cara: > > Hope you are back home and feeling better. > > Were you able to find anything on the parents/siblings of Robert Jones b. > 1799 from Holdenstown. You have copies of the deeds. > > Appreciate your efforts. > > Carol N > > *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Carol, My efforts in Ireland were very little BUT I need to tell all so they understand the situation I found myself in, when I reached Ireland, I became very ill and the illness ( a new one) did not allow me to get around as I desired, so researching was placed on the back burner, and I did little things, like just enjoy being in Ireland, which of course was not a little thing, many friends I intended to meet up with and meet also for the first time, were placed in the ( to do next trip basket for I am going to return once more to Ireland) so therefore no I did not follow through on your Jones family, I never even looked for my own family. But I may have gathered snippets who knows I just wrote and wrote on the days I was able to visit the Library in Dublin. And as I began to feel my old self again, which was towards the end of my trip, time continued to tick at a double rate, so I put on my best smile, my best walking shoes, and simply accepted it was not going to be a researching holiday, but a holiday to rest, and enjoy the scenery, so with my camera on my shoulder a prayer on my lips I went off and for the first time in 20 years I became simply a tourist in Ireland, oh what a delight it was the weather was kind, ( only 5 days rain) and the the short trips I was able to endure, I added many many photos of nothing but delightful scenery ( with a headstone and church or two) to my already large file. I am sorry for those I intended to do things for, but these things as they say are sent to try us, this time they tried me, I did not appreciate the asthma like condition I developed but I beat it in the end, and for a few weeks I revelled in no researching, and just being content to use my camera. So my apolgies to those of you who are waiting on bits n pieces on your research, and all that ( but dont think I did not harvest bits n pieces I did) But I simply concentrated on gathering with a wide open view to it being helpful to simply anyone who is on the lists I admin. I am now home where it is freezing and typing up some things, I will be loading pictures to the net, and will supply a link to my photos if anyone is at all intereted in seeing Ireland through my eyes. Thankyou for being a great list working along slowly whilst I simply ducked in and out and read snips n snaps of mails that appeared. I remain your friend Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Nelson" <wncn66@bluemarble.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] ROLL CALL SUGGESTIONS > Cara: > > Hope you are back home and feeling better. > > Were you able to find anything on the parents/siblings of Robert Jones b. > 1799 from Holdenstown. You have copies of the deeds. > > Appreciate your efforts. > > Carol N > >

Dear Cara: So glad you got to feeling better toward the end of your trip in Ireland to provide you with some relaxation. Although you did not get to do much research for us all because of your illness, you are to be commended for all you have done over the years. Hang in there girl. Next trip should be a better one. Carol N. ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Cara; I have not been doing much research since my husband passed away in February But I have started again. I am going to Nova Scotia in October likely for a Month I will be visiting Halifax as well. I am so sorry to learn that you have been so sick, my prayers are with you I hope you had a good rest while you were in Ireland what part of Ireland Did you visit. Cara I hope you will be feeling well soon Cheers Margaret -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Wednesday, September 29, 2010 11:43 PM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA Carol, My efforts in Ireland were very little BUT I need to tell all so they understand the situation I found myself in, when I reached Ireland, I became very ill and the illness ( a new one) did not allow me to get around as I desired, so researching was placed on the back burner, and I did little things, like just enjoy being in Ireland, which of course was not a little thing, many friends I intended to meet up with and meet also for the first time, were placed in the ( to do next trip basket for I am going to return once more to Ireland) so therefore no I did not follow through on your Jones family, I never even looked for my own family. But I may have gathered snippets who knows I just wrote and wrote on the days I was able to visit the Library in Dublin. And as I began to feel my old self again, which was towards the end of my trip, time continued to tick at a double rate, so I put on my best smile, my best walking shoes, and simply accepted it was not going to be a researching holiday, but a holiday to rest, and enjoy the scenery, so with my camera on my shoulder a prayer on my lips I went off and for the first time in 20 years I became simply a tourist in Ireland, oh what a delight it was the weather was kind, ( only 5 days rain) and the the short trips I was able to endure, I added many many photos of nothing but delightful scenery ( with a headstone and church or two) to my already large file. I am sorry for those I intended to do things for, but these things as they say are sent to try us, this time they tried me, I did not appreciate the asthma like condition I developed but I beat it in the end, and for a few weeks I revelled in no researching, and just being content to use my camera. So my apolgies to those of you who are waiting on bits n pieces on your research, and all that ( but dont think I did not harvest bits n pieces I did) But I simply concentrated on gathering with a wide open view to it being helpful to simply anyone who is on the lists I admin. I am now home where it is freezing and typing up some things, I will be loading pictures to the net, and will supply a link to my photos if anyone is at all intereted in seeing Ireland through my eyes. Thankyou for being a great list working along slowly whilst I simply ducked in and out and read snips n snaps of mails that appeared. I remain your friend Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Nelson" <wncn66@bluemarble.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] ROLL CALL SUGGESTIONS > Cara: > > Hope you are back home and feeling better. > > Were you able to find anything on the parents/siblings of Robert Jones b. > 1799 from Holdenstown. You have copies of the deeds. > > Appreciate your efforts. > > Carol N > > *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Most important is that you get better and glad that you were able to be "just" a tourist for a while. Mary lowrey CASEY / DOWLING --- Moone, and surrounding areas, Co Kildare -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-wicklow-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 3:01 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 5, Issue 163 Today's Topics: 1. Re: ROLL CALL SUGGESTIONS (Carol Nelson) 2. THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA (Cara_Links) 3. Re: THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA (gigitulsaok@cox.net) 4. Re: THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA (Jane Sullivan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 29 Sep 2010 11:09:08 -0500 From: "Carol Nelson" <wncn66@bluemarble.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] ROLL CALL SUGGESTIONS To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <9D1A5441E90E4A3BB9BE17DA7C37270D@home> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Cara: Hope you are back home and feeling better. Were you able to find anything on the parents/siblings of Robert Jones b. 1799 from Holdenstown. You have copies of the deeds. Appreciate your efforts. Carol N ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 13:43:16 +1000 From: "Cara_Links" <Cara_Links@bigpond.com> Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <0C21A57D36294948B956D83137088A3F@Madden> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Carol, My efforts in Ireland were very little BUT I need to tell all so they understand the situation I found myself in, when I reached Ireland, I became very ill and the illness ( a new one) did not allow me to get around as I desired, so researching was placed on the back burner, and I did little things, like just enjoy being in Ireland, which of course was not a little thing, many friends I intended to meet up with and meet also for the first time, were placed in the ( to do next trip basket for I am going to return once more to Ireland) so therefore no I did not follow through on your Jones family, I never even looked for my own family. But I may have gathered snippets who knows I just wrote and wrote on the days I was able to visit the Library in Dublin. And as I began to feel my old self again, which was towards the end of my trip, time continued to tick at a double rate, so I put on my best smile, my best walking shoes, and simply accepted it was not going to be a researching holiday, but a holiday to rest, and enjoy the scenery, so with my camera on my shoulder a prayer on my lips I went off and for the first time in 20 years I became simply a tourist in Ireland, oh what a delight it was the weather was kind, ( only 5 days rain) and the the short trips I was able to endure, I added many many photos of nothing but delightful scenery ( with a headstone and church or two) to my already large file. I am sorry for those I intended to do things for, but these things as they say are sent to try us, this time they tried me, I did not appreciate the asthma like condition I developed but I beat it in the end, and for a few weeks I revelled in no researching, and just being content to use my camera. So my apolgies to those of you who are waiting on bits n pieces on your research, and all that ( but dont think I did not harvest bits n pieces I did) But I simply concentrated on gathering with a wide open view to it being helpful to simply anyone who is on the lists I admin. I am now home where it is freezing and typing up some things, I will be loading pictures to the net, and will supply a link to my photos if anyone is at all intereted in seeing Ireland through my eyes. Thankyou for being a great list working along slowly whilst I simply ducked in and out and read snips n snaps of mails that appeared. I remain your friend Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Nelson" <wncn66@bluemarble.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] ROLL CALL SUGGESTIONS > Cara: > > Hope you are back home and feeling better. > > Were you able to find anything on the parents/siblings of Robert Jones b. > 1799 from Holdenstown. You have copies of the deeds. > > Appreciate your efforts. > > Carol N > > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 0:47:01 -0400 From: <gigitulsaok@cox.net> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <20100930004701.Q0YF1.2011916.imail@eastrmwml42> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8 Cara, So sorry to hear you were ill while in Ireland. I am anxious to read your "snips and snaps" and I would love to have the link to your pictures when you are able to get them on the net. Take care of yourself and hope it won't be too long before you can make another trip to Ireland. Gail in Oklahoma Researching Holden and Long families > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ Message: 4 Date: Thu, 30 Sep 2010 15:19:24 +1000 From: "Jane Sullivan" <janeoz123@bigpond.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <000001cb605f$0c87ff30$2597fd90$@com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Cara, I am so glad you were able to enjoy a holiday. You, who does so much for others, really does deserve some 'down' time. I can wait for as long as it takes to find my elusive ancestors, I've waited this long anyway. Hoping that you have fully recovered (or are on your way). We miss your input..it's always valuable. Jane Sullivan Australia -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Thursday, 30 September 2010 1:43 PM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] THANKYOU AND AN EXPLANATION FROM CARA Carol, My efforts in Ireland were very little BUT I need to tell all so they understand the situation I found myself in, when I reached Ireland, I became very ill and the illness ( a new one) did not allow me to get around as I desired, so researching was placed on the back burner, and I did little things, like just enjoy being in Ireland, which of course was not a little thing, many friends I intended to meet up with and meet also for the first time, were placed in the ( to do next trip basket for I am going to return once more to Ireland) so therefore no I did not follow through on your Jones family, I never even looked for my own family. But I may have gathered snippets who knows I just wrote and wrote on the days I was able to visit the Library in Dublin. And as I began to feel my old self again, which was towards the end of my trip, time continued to tick at a double rate, so I put on my best smile, my best walking shoes, and simply accepted it was not going to be a researching holiday, but a holiday to rest, and enjoy the scenery, so with my camera on my shoulder a prayer on my lips I went off and for the first time in 20 years I became simply a tourist in Ireland, oh what a delight it was the weather was kind, ( only 5 days rain) and the the short trips I was able to endure, I added many many photos of nothing but delightful scenery ( with a headstone and church or two) to my already large file. I am sorry for those I intended to do things for, but these things as they say are sent to try us, this time they tried me, I did not appreciate the asthma like condition I developed but I beat it in the end, and for a few weeks I revelled in no researching, and just being content to use my camera. So my apolgies to those of you who are waiting on bits n pieces on your research, and all that ( but dont think I did not harvest bits n pieces I did) But I simply concentrated on gathering with a wide open view to it being helpful to simply anyone who is on the lists I admin. I am now home where it is freezing and typing up some things, I will be loading pictures to the net, and will supply a link to my photos if anyone is at all intereted in seeing Ireland through my eyes. Thankyou for being a great list working along slowly whilst I simply ducked in and out and read snips n snaps of mails that appeared. I remain your friend Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Carol Nelson" <wncn66@bluemarble.net> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, September 30, 2010 2:09 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] ROLL CALL SUGGESTIONS > Cara: > > Hope you are back home and feeling better. > > Were you able to find anything on the parents/siblings of Robert Jones b. > 1799 from Holdenstown. You have copies of the deeds. > > Appreciate your efforts. > > Carol N > > *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-WICKLOW list administrator, send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. 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Hi Cara and welcome home. Im so pleased that you got a chance to sit back and enjoy your trip- even tho enforced. Theres nothing better than just absorbing the atmosphere and imagining our ancestors going about in the places we so often only dream about. I know we all hope you will come home with info for us but Im sure none of us would deny you the chance to just be there. I do hope you get the better of your health problems and look forward to seeing your pics. As for the rest of us, including me, we need to get busy wth roll calls- but not today for me cos the sun is shining in Sunderland England- a rarity these days. As ever I cling to the hope that a sponsor etc on someones mail has one of my names.

Cara, So sorry to hear you were ill while in Ireland. I am anxious to read your "snips and snaps" and I would love to have the link to your pictures when you are able to get them on the net. Take care of yourself and hope it won't be too long before you can make another trip to Ireland. Gail in Oklahoma Researching Holden and Long families > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Cara: Hope you are back home and feeling better. Were you able to find anything on the parents/siblings of Robert Jones b. 1799 from Holdenstown. You have copies of the deeds. Appreciate your efforts. Carol N

As we all know these things can get out of control if the exercise is not conducted well so here I am once again adding some suggestions to this mail to be followed 1- Change the Subject line to the SURNAME of your request 2- Time Frame 3- Town they lived in if known and County 4- Did you find them in either the 1901 or 1911 Census for Ireland ? if so where and give address? 5- Christian Names and maiden names if known 6- Did they die in Ireland ? 7- Did they marry in Ireland ? 8- Do you know where they married and when ? 9-When did they leave Ireland ? 10- Do you have or know the names of any of the Children where they were born or baptised ? 11- Religion 12- What did they work out 13- Name of the dog the cat the bird 14- A short covering note on what you are looking for 15- Were they Military folk or And remember not to add your request to anyone elses mail, make yours a separate mail with the Subject line covering the body of the mail. Not sure what else we need to cover in this roll call but as it evolves we will roll along THIS being the suggestions for a another list roll call but I am using it here. Cheers and work begins now Cara Back from her trip with some things to share but begin that Monday

Timeframe. 1800-18?? Location. County Wicklow area between Rathnew and Newcastle, possibly living Killeskey Parish, townland Ballybla in 1850s (Griffith's Valuation of 1854). Not in either census - probably died in period 1860-1875. William FOX born circa 1795-1805 and Sarah WILLIAMS born circa 1805-1810. Believed to have been born, lived, married and died in County Wicklow. Children (all except Francis baptised at Wicklow RC parish) include: Francis FOX b. abt 1830 Margaret FOX b. 1832 sponsors John Fox and Eliza C. Mary FOX b. 1834 sponsors Pat Fox and Catherine Fox Robert FOX b. 1836 sponsors Abraham Healy and Kate Williams William FOX b. 1838 sponsors Daniel Fox and Elyn Fox Joseph FOX b. 1840 sponsors George Fox and Anne Britt Sarah FOX b. 1843 sponsors Anthony Fox and Catherine Fox note: sources for baptismal information from Irish Family History Foundation online records. Religion believed to RC as 6 children baptised in Wicklow RC parish. William FOX's occupation listed on marriage certificates of 2 sons in late 1860s is land steward. Seeking any information on William FOX and Sarah WILLIAMS, my gggrandparents and any info on their offspring Margaret, Mary, Joseph and Sarah. Additional data on children of William FOX and Sarah WILLIAMS: Francis FOX married Elizabeth SLATER at Wicklow COI 17 Aug 1868; witnesses were William MALION(MALLON) and Rosa MALION. He lived in Ballinapark as a land steward and she was from Newrath Bridge; her father was William SLATER, bricklayer. Children include William (Jabez) Fox b. 1868; Samuel FOX b. 1870; Charles FOX b. 1872 and John FOX b. 1876. Francis is found in 1901 and 1911 census in Miltown, Glenealy, Wicklow living with son John. Although all children were baptised at Ashford RC parish, all are listed as COI in census records. Son Charles was head gardner at Mt. Usher from abt 1897-1942. note: sources civil marriage registration, National Library of Ireland P6478 , and National Census of Ireland 1901 and 1911. William FOX married Sarah BRIEN(BRYAN) abt 1864. Children, all baptised RC, include: Sarah, William, James, Joseph, John William, Thomas, Catherine and Elizabeth. note: sources Irish Family History Foundation online records and National Library of Ireland P6478 Robert FOX married Mary BRIEN(BRYAN) 23 Jan 1869 at RC chapel Bray; witnesses were Thomas BRIEN and Eliza BRIEN. He lived in Ballinapark as laborer and she was from Ashford; her father was James BRIEN(BRYAN). Children, all baptised RC in Wicklow or Ashford parish, include: Arthur, Robert, James, William, Patrick, Thomas, Mary and Sarah. This is my line. Robert and several sons played association football for Rathnew in late 1890s. Arthur immigated to Philadelphia, USA in 1887 and James went there in 1895. Parents and remaining children immigrated to Philadelphia in Jul 1901 but are found in 1901 census at PLU Rathdrum, Arklow Barony, East Dungstown Parish, Maghera Beg townland as agricultural laborers. note: sources Ireland Census of 1901, National Library of Ireland P 6478 and P6482, St. Patrick's RC parish Wicklow records, Fox family records (this is my line).