I also have George Jenkinson married to Hannah Smith (born c. 1841) but no date of marriage for them either. Way back when I was putting the tree together for some reason I have George's father, William Jenkinson married to Hannah Smith or Somebody....... yes, that dreaded "Somebody". No, there hasn't been a change. I have doubts about William being married to a Hannah Smith. His wife was Hannah, but without a marriage it is hard to know the surname for sure. Hence my query to the list. Yes, I have all of George's children, thanks. So I gather that you are also still looking for the marriage of William Jenkinson to a Hannah. Thanks Joyce

I am working on my JENKINSON famiy at present, and would be delighted if someone knows of the marriage of WILLIAM JENKINSON (born 1795, baptised at Wicklow Parish Church). I know he married a HANNAH, and possibly as HANNAH SMITH, but I don't have the date or place of their marriage. Hope someone can help. Joyce (Tunstead)

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Thank you so very much Cara and Colette and Joyce. I can't express enough gratitude for the help I've received on this list. A lead from here to my 3rd g grandparents eventually brought me to Coolross in person where I met living relatives with whom I'm now in close contact. That event has changed so much for my family - all for the good. I'm glad I posted the birth/death of baby Arthur Byrne. It was actually in error that I put it on this list but I must say it is the only one that has generated a response. I did not know of Michael born in 1875 to Luke and Bridget and am thrilled with the information. Luke's grandfather was Michael Byrne of Coolross. I found that my "missing Luke" was visiting George and Maria Byrne on Main St. in Tinahely at the time of the 1911 census. I'm still trying to connect that couple to my family at Coolross/Clonegal but as Byrne is such a common name that might be a red herring. The name George was used in my Byrne family. I've been unable to find that couple in 1901 census. No deaths of Luke Byrne seem to match what the family maintains. He and Bridget are buried in the cemetery at Aghowle but without a gravestone. Does anyone know where to find records for that cemetery? In 1911 one of Luke's young sons, Edward, was at Coolross/Ballingate with Byrne relatives and the other, Arthur, was in Knockloe/Rath with Keoghs. I knew the family was in Leitrim at the time of the 1901 census but have no idea why they moved there from Tullow or when they came back. Family lore has Bridget Corcoran Byrne dying of grief rather than childbirth, somewhere in Wicklow or Carlow but it could well have happened in Leitrim. No death records have turned up and if the babies died before being baptised they would not be buried in the RC cemetery. Perhaps they are among the babies rumoured to be buried in a rath near the family farm. Again it could be misleading, but the fact that young Arthur was boarding with a Kehoe family has me excited. My ggg grandmother Eliza was a Kehoe. She married Arthur Byrne circa 1820 but no records are available. I've been unsuccessful in tracking the Kehoes although recently found a potential lead in Corragh near Clonegal. My family lived/lives so close to the Carlow/Wexford/Wicklow border that to this day all three counties figure in their postal address. Once again, many many thanks. Ann Burns Ottawa ON

Dear Ann, I note that in 1901 I note living at Clonnatin Road also known as Pot Lane is Luke Byrne but he is listed as a farmer aged 61 not married Born Co Wexford So this was within the townl of Gorey so the Byrne family you seek may be in Rural Wexford just outside of Gorey. A Bridget Byrne died 12th June 1901 she was aged 63 years and her last known address was Gorey Hill ( out of the town of Gorey) Buried in the Gorey Cemetery. Which to my reckoning for child birth may mean she was too old for having children but she is the only Bridget in your time frame to die in Gorey. But travelling on there are three Arthur Byrnes who died in Gorey Arthur aged 64 died Tara Hill 18/7/1973 Arthur aged 50 Died in the Work house Gorey aged 50 5/3/1850 Arthur aged 75 died in Gorey 2/4/1872 aged 75 Interred Gorey Cemetery I then have these two Luke Byrnes 1- Died 11/1/1881 in Gorey aged 76 2- Died in Gorey aged 62 19/4/1901 I can find nothing to match the children Eleanor and Catherine unless they died unmarried I have no hope of matching those names. And of course I have no idea if this is of any use to you at all. But at least you know I have looked for you I feel you would know of Michael born 19/4/1875 to your Arthur and Bridget Corcoran and North City Dublin --- Cheers for the moment Cara > > My Arthur Byrne was living in Dublin at 15 Amiens St, in 1868 but no trace > of > him was found subsequent to that date. His other children were born in > the > 1860s so there's no possibility this was my family. My Arthur and his > wife > Bridget Corcoran had two daughters - Eleanor Mary and Catherine Frances, > born > in 1862 and 1863 respectively. (I've found no trace of these girls.) They > had > son Luke in 1868, who subsequently married Bridget Murphy in Tullow and > had two > sons Edward and Arthur. I do know the descendants of these two lads. Luke > (the > baker) died according to stories, in Gorey, sometime after the 1911 > census. His > wife died shortly after childbirth circa 1903 when the twin baby girls > died. It > is not known if she died in Leitrim where they had been living, or in > Tullow > near her own parents. If any of this sounds familiar I'd love to be in > touch. > > Ann Burns > Ottawa ON

Hi You probably already know this, Ann, but Luke Byrne + wife Bridget + son Arthur (aged 3) + son Edward (aged 2) were living at Creggs town, Galway at the time of the 1901 census, so perhaps Bridget died there rather than Leitrim or Tullow? Regards Colette

The reference G 72 N would refer to the Grave Number at Deansgrange Cemetery. N = North Section G = The Row number 72 = The number of the grave in that row. Joyce > > Arthur Byrne, aged one day, died 24 Jul 1902 at 4 Magenta Place, > Kingstown, Co > Dublin. He was the son of Arthur Byrne of that same address. He was RC and > was > buried in Deansgrange graveyard in the parish of the same name. The note > says > only: G 72 N - which I don't understand but possibly it is the site of his > grave > within the cemetery. >

Hi I thought Id join in with Ann and spend 5 euro, at least I now know this isnt my Donnellys. Heres a baptism 28 April 1859 BRAY RC John Donnelly and Ester Redmond were the parents of Eugeneus Donnelly. The sponsors were Patritio Redmond and Maria Lawless. Lets hope this is of use to someone I wouldnt care but Ive looked at Esther Donnelly nee Redmond before as Im sure its her on 1901 census at Woodlands Kilcoole age 69, living with son Michael Donnelly and his family and other son John. I also think this Esther died 1903 in Rathdrum area- curtesy of familysearch plot site What made me think Eugeneus mam was a different Esther Donnelly is that family search show Esther Redmonds kids to have dad Thomas Donnelly. Maybe she married a John Donnelly- he died and so she married maybe a brother? My motto remains assume even the wildest thoughts but never believe them till they are proved. Never mind, the thrill of the chase is half the fun. Carol Wicklow names Niles Donnelly Sullivan Byrne Fermanagh names I am seeking Harron Love Tyrone names I am seeking Conway Ireland names I am seeking McMullen Roney

Hi Do you have Michael Byrne, born 19 April 1875, Dublin North City (on Family Search). Luke born 8 May 1865. Cheers Colette > Date: Tue, 12 Oct 2010 16:54:42 -0700 > From: ann.burns@rogers.com > To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] death of infant Arthur Byrne - 1902 > > Hello > > I was searching for my own ancestors and struck out, but having paid 5 Euros, I > thought I would share this record in hope that it helps someone else. > > > Arthur Byrne, aged one day, died 24 Jul 1902 at 4 Magenta Place, Kingstown, Co > Dublin. He was the son of Arthur Byrne of that same address. He was RC and was > buried in Deansgrange graveyard in the parish of the same name. The note says > only: G 72 N - which I don't understand but possibly it is the site of his grave > within the cemetery. > > My Arthur Byrne was living in Dublin at 15 Amiens St, in 1868 but no trace of > him was found subsequent to that date. His other children were born in the > 1860s so there's no possibility this was my family. My Arthur and his wife > Bridget Corcoran had two daughters - Eleanor Mary and Catherine Frances, born > in 1862 and 1863 respectively. (I've found no trace of these girls.) They had > son Luke in 1868, who subsequently married Bridget Murphy in Tullow and had two > sons Edward and Arthur. I do know the descendants of these two lads. Luke (the > baker) died according to stories, in Gorey, sometime after the 1911 census. His > wife died shortly after childbirth circa 1903 when the twin baby girls died. It > is not known if she died in Leitrim where they had been living, or in Tullow > near her own parents. If any of this sounds familiar I'd love to be in touch. > > Ann Burns > Ottawa ON > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hello I was searching for my own ancestors and struck out, but having paid 5 Euros, I thought I would share this record in hope that it helps someone else. Arthur Byrne, aged one day, died 24 Jul 1902 at 4 Magenta Place, Kingstown, Co Dublin. He was the son of Arthur Byrne of that same address. He was RC and was buried in Deansgrange graveyard in the parish of the same name. The note says only: G 72 N - which I don't understand but possibly it is the site of his grave within the cemetery. My Arthur Byrne was living in Dublin at 15 Amiens St, in 1868 but no trace of him was found subsequent to that date. His other children were born in the 1860s so there's no possibility this was my family. My Arthur and his wife Bridget Corcoran had two daughters - Eleanor Mary and Catherine Frances, born in 1862 and 1863 respectively. (I've found no trace of these girls.) They had son Luke in 1868, who subsequently married Bridget Murphy in Tullow and had two sons Edward and Arthur. I do know the descendants of these two lads. Luke (the baker) died according to stories, in Gorey, sometime after the 1911 census. His wife died shortly after childbirth circa 1903 when the twin baby girls died. It is not known if she died in Leitrim where they had been living, or in Tullow near her own parents. If any of this sounds familiar I'd love to be in touch. Ann Burns Ottawa ON

AOL Accounts are being hacked by a drug company, so I am now telling you those you running an AOL account need to change your password the other alternative will be once your mail appears to be hacked you will be removed from the list as matter of safety to others until your problem is resolved. no need to go into a discussion on list if you have any questions direct them to me off list Cheers Cara

Some Glossary of terms on Stonemasons ASHLAR:- A block of stone cut to have squared sides often used instead of brick in the construction of old buildings. The faces of the stone were usually left smooth but a soft stone Ashlar could be tooled to give them a decorative finish 　 　 BANKER:-This was the mason who carved stones into shapes on a huge stone bench ( banker stone) before it went to the fixer masons to put in positions on the building. The banker mason marked each stone he had carved with his own unique symbol. 　 FREESTONE:- Stone that could be cut in any direction, as opposed to another stone known as "ragstone" a term given to any stone that was hard to work with the chisel Freestone to be of value must be soft enough to cut and carved easily without chattering and splitting. 　 MASTER MASON:- A Stonemason at the very top of his careet, capable of undertaking and supervising every single aspect of stonework from cutting and shaping to the role of architect. Masters might specialise in carving work or basic paving slabs, but all employed JOURNEYMEN and took on apprentices, and had higher incomes that the ordinary stonemason JOURNEYMAN:- the word that made me go fossicking for further information on such a man, as it appeared next to Apothecaries and other clases of Job Descriptions and discovered that He is an Itinerant one who moves about in pursuit of his work.......... So a stone mason Journeyman has served his apprenticeship under a master mason, or learned the trade as a labourer, and once he has learnt the trade he can work for years under the one master. Or travel the country in search of work, be it construction or repair work on- as did Journeyman Apothecaries etc. 　 In 1831 the FRIENDLY SOCIETY OF OPPERATIVE STONEMASONS Of England, Ireland and Wales ( FSOS) was established, by adopting a strategy of conciliation that kept disputes to a minium,it grew in strength to become a corner stone of building trades and unionism throughout the 19th Century. They called a strike in 1877 in support of a claim for 10d an hour, which in turn was defeated, which lead to wage cuts, and longer hours for thousands of stonemasons and from that point on the society went into delcine. In 1921 it re-emerged under the name Amalgamated Union of Building Trade Workers after merging with bricklayers societies. And Although not an Irish site worth a browse is this one:- http://www2.warwick.ac.uk/services/library/mrc/subject_guides/family_history/stone/ Cheers Cara

Hi Valerie Perhaps Miss BOND had died pre 1901? Or had married? Or had moved from Rathgar Avenue? There is one possible on the census - Adelaide Bond at Mellifont Avenue, Kingstown, aged 57 (so born c. 1844, which might be a bit early?). Did John and Christiana have any other children? Emily (44) and Ada (38) lived at Terenure Road in 1901, which is not far from Rathgar Avenue. I had a look at the headstones for Mount Jerome (Dublin archives) but there's nothing for either Bond or Higginson, but perhaps it hasn't been transcribed yet. I assume that Mount Jerome can't help you with Miss Bond's first name? Good luck Colette > From: vbgarton@optusnet.com.au > To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com; irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 10 Oct 2010 14:38:08 +1100 > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] John P BOND & Christiana W HIGGINSON > > I am looking for information regarding Christiana W HIGGINSON who married > John P BOND in 1846 and had a daughter ?D/F M BOND who was the Attestant to > the burial of Mary Anne HIGGINSON in Mt Jerome Cemetery in 1899 saying she > was her niece. Mary Anne was aged 75 years and lived with Miss BOND at 33 > Rathgar Avenue, Dublin, Ireland. > > > > I have not been able to find Miss BOND in the 1901 census. > > > > Here's hoping for some help. > > > > Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Murray, James and ss they grew, sons John, James, and Christopher were notable stonemasons who worked Ireland, Wales, England and Scotland 1847 - 1869. This is a wonderful link. If you find more like this please send on. Before emigration in Brae, Wicklow. Thank you very much!! Pat Murray Scott Seattle WA

I am looking for information regarding Christiana W HIGGINSON who married John P BOND in 1846 and had a daughter ?D/F M BOND who was the Attestant to the burial of Mary Anne HIGGINSON in Mt Jerome Cemetery in 1899 saying she was her niece. Mary Anne was aged 75 years and lived with Miss BOND at 33 Rathgar Avenue, Dublin, Ireland. I have not been able to find Miss BOND in the 1901 census. Here's hoping for some help. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney

Thanks for those marriages Peggy. Makes me realise how many Essies were knocking about, i dread to think how many there were by the time Es? Byrne baptised 1833 was ready to marry! Good thinking re the spellings of McHugh etc. Makes sense. Carol

1836 - Essy Byrne to Robert Moulds - 27 June 1824 - Esther Byrne to John Aman - 11 August 1833 - Esther Byrne to William Byrne - 18 February 1835 - Esther Byrne to Denis Darcy - 24 January 1828 - Eshter Byrne to Thomas Duffy - 27 October 1838 - Esther Byrne to James Kilrane - 21 May If any of these are of interest, I have more information Peggy P.S. If handwritten, that McKieve could have read McKiew/e.....maybe. :o)

Hi Cara, I have a Peter in 1821, 28 May Margaret in 1831 - 31 July Es__? in 1833 - 21 April and ?? (not Margaret) in 1835 - 5 April. Is that your Denis and Margaret McHugh's family? I have Margaret's name as Byrne, Don't know if it's a maiden name. Peggy In a message dated 10/6/2010 3:12:08 A.M. Eastern Daylight Time, irl-wicklow-request@rootsweb.com writes: Im thnkng E Byrne baptised Avoca rc 1833 daughter of Dennis Byrne and Margaret MAY BE MINE? Margaret McHugh? and Denis Byrne have Mary Anne 1825 in Avoca ( full date available) Denis and Margaret - 4/5/1837 Margaret - Sponsors James Bingham and Ellen Bingham I am guessing this child is still Denis and Margaret Byrnes nee McHugh child..........unles someone else can clear that up perfectly she will stay in my file under suspect child. Dont forget to look for Owen as well as Eugene was interchangeable to such And if you are going to BYRNE search, you can put me in any family tree, becos you have to be a nutter to take that name on Carol Cheers, Cara *******************************************

09/04/1827 DUNN Catherine dau of Andrew & ----Catherine of Allenwood 25/05/1828 DUNN Mary dau of Andy & --- Kitty of Allenwood 23/12/1829 DUNN Ellen dau of Andy & --- Catherine of Allenwood 19/02/1832 DUNN Bridget dau of Andy & --- Catherine of Allenwood 16/06/1833 DUNN James son of Andy & CULLETON Catherine of Allenwood 18/10/1835 DUNN Eliza dau of same of Allenwood 11/02/1838 DUNN Terresa dau of Andy & CULLETIN Catherine of Allenwood 02/08/1840 DUNNE Peter son of Andrew & CULLODEN Catherine of Allenwood 25/12/1842 DUNNE Thomas son of Andrew & CULLODEN Catherine of Allenwood 13/04/1845 DUNNE Laurence son of Andrew & CULLODEN Catherine of Allenwood 15/07/1850 DUNNE Michael son of Andrew & CULLODEN Catherine of Allenwood That is all I know about this family and would like to know who CATHERINE CULLODEN/CULLETIN/CULLITON was please. Cheers from Valerie in sunny Sydney

Hi Interestng article re workhouses- and a few names mentioned. http://www.historyireland.com/volumes/volume14/issue6/features/?id=336 -- Carol Wicklow names Niles Donnelly Sullivan Byrne Fermanagh names I am seeking Harron Love Tyrone names I am seeking Conway Ireland names I am seeking McMullen Roney