Bill; I see on Ancestry.com a OneWorldTree for a John F Cullen born Ireland Nov 1848 with a spouse Elizabeth Moore born Ireland Oct 1854. The chart shows 2 children both born in Ireland - James Joseph 19 Jun 1880 and Elizabeth D. Feb 1883. If this is not 'your' tree, seems like a source to chase! I searched for Wicklow baptisms/christenings for the above children, James & Elizabeth, where the father's first name was John at this website. http://www.rootsireland.ie/ I got one hit for a James Cullen in 1880 and one hit for Elizabeth Cullen in 1884. No guarantee these are 'yours' but if you want to roll the dice and see the actual records, it will cost 5 euros a shot. This may then provide you with more info and what church & where in Wicklow were the baptisms/christenings. But the risk is that you may spend 10 Euros and buy yourself more frustration! Happy hunting - Pat Morgan

Pat I know very little about where my "Cullen Family Came from" . I know they lived in Waterford County just before they left Ireland. I believe they left Ireland in approx. 1885 or 1886. They were living in St Louis MO, in 1900. My Great Grandfather's Name was John Fleming Cullen and my great grandmother was Marie Moore. They had three children in Ireland Marie, James Joseph and Elizabeth Bill Hughes hughes.w@comcast.net -----Original Message----- From: irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wicklow-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-wicklow-request@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, February 16, 2011 1:01 AM To: irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20 Today's Topics: 1. Cullen of Wicklow (chickasaw@aol.com) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Tue, 15 Feb 2011 09:33:41 -0500 (EST) From: chickasaw@aol.com Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Cullen of Wicklow To: IRL-WICKLOW@rootsweb.com Message-ID: <8CD9B3479B755D3-1F18-2338C@Webmail-d119.sysops.aol.com> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii" Assuming some of your Cullen relatives remained in Wicklow, I took a look at the 1901 census which shows around 716 "Cullen" as living in Wicklow. You may want to review the site to see if you can zero in on a smaller area within Wicklow. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ I have been researching "Miley" in the townlands around Carrigacurra and Valleymount and have come across Miley & Cullen marriages. In the 1901 census there were 20 "Cullen" in the DED of Togher which covers the towlands arround Valleymount. Hope this helps Pat Morgan ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-WICKLOW list administrator, send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-WICKLOW mailing list, send an email to IRL-WICKLOW@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 6, Issue 20 ******************************************

Regarding CULLENs in Wicklow, I have discovered that members of my COLLINS family have a variety of spellings of their surname (even within the family in the same census return ...) and one of those variations is CULLEN. Susan Johnstone

----- Original Message ----- From: Bill Hughes To: IRL-WICKLOW-admin@rootsweb.com Sent: Wednesday, January 19, 2011 4:08 PM Subject: Cullen of Wicklow My relatives left Wicklow in 1889 -90. I don't know where they were from. John F Cullen(1848), Marie Cullen(1854-+Moore), Marie Cullen 1880, James Cullen 1882, Elizabeth !886. Does anybody have any Cullen family in Wicklow in that time period. Bill Hughes Coldwell Banker Commercial Cell: 303-915-1942 hughes.w@comcast.net I use BullGuard Spamfilter to keep my inbox clean. It is completely free: www.bullguard.com/freespamfilter

Assuming some of your Cullen relatives remained in Wicklow, I took a look at the 1901 census which shows around 716 "Cullen" as living in Wicklow. You may want to review the site to see if you can zero in on a smaller area within Wicklow. http://www.census.nationalarchives.ie/search/ I have been researching "Miley" in the townlands around Carrigacurra and Valleymount and have come across Miley & Cullen marriages. In the 1901 census there were 20 "Cullen" in the DED of Togher which covers the towlands arround Valleymount. Hope this helps Pat Morgan

Robert Manning - Relieving officer Date of Resignation 16th Feb 1869 Date of Application for Superannuation Allowance 16th March 1869 aged 60 years at resignation Length of service 21 years Reason for resignation age and infirmity - Result:-refused no reason given Peter Moran -Relieving Officer / Date of Resignation 6th June 1876 - Date of Application 6th June 1876- Aged 35 years - Length of service - 7 years Reason for resignation - ill health Result - refused no reason given Ellen Cullen - Fever Hospital Nurse Date of resignation 25th March 1881- Date of Apllication 18th Feb 1881 Age 70 years Length of service 28 years - Reason for resignation-old age Result -granted Taken from Government papers.Printed 23/2/1883.

There is also some info on the Brownriggs in Rachel Pollard's book THE AVENUE. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brendan Dixon" <brendan.dixon@ucd.ie> To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 10:06 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Brownrigg > Hi Folks > > I just came across this book which has a lot about Brownrigg in it. > > You may already have seen it? > > http://www.archive.org/details/speddingfamilywi00sped > > Brendan > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Folks I just came across this book which has a lot about Brownrigg in it. You may already have seen it? http://www.archive.org/details/speddingfamilywi00sped Brendan

Thanks, Brendan: no, I had not seen this.....but think that I remember seeing an excerpt from it, as the Spedding name is familiar. I will check it out. You are wonderful to continue looking out for the Brownrigg line...THANKS!!! m Mary Villalba SS United States Conservancy Secretary, Board of Directors (303) 290-8415 Tele P. O. Box 6569 Denver, CO 80206 -------------------------------------------------- From: "Brendan Dixon" <brendan.dixon@ucd.ie> Sent: Thursday, February 03, 2011 8:06 AM To: <irl-wicklow@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Brownrigg > Hi Folks > > I just came across this book which has a lot about Brownrigg in it. > > You may already have seen it? > > http://www.archive.org/details/speddingfamilywi00sped > > Brendan > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Sorry Cara. I think I forgot to attach the Jones list I have. Can you tell me how any of these are related? Hope we can connect some to my Robert Jones b 1799. Thanks Carol N

Helen, Have you tried the Irish Family History Foundation - http://www.rootsireland.ie/ I have found my g-g-grandmother's baptism record and, from another Wicklow family, the baptisms of three of 8 children of another family. So the records are a bit patchy. But could be worth a shot if you haven't already tried. You have to register (free) to search, then it costs 5 Euro to view each record. You can only enter father's forename - no luck with Christopher, but there is one baptism for a Catherine, father Chris, 1832 Wicklow. If you pay to view, it should give the mother's name, and quite likely the sponsors. Cheers Barbara

Hi Cara (and everyone else) Thank you very much for your information. I have not been able to prove conclusively one way or the other if the Catherine Byrne in my husband's family tree is the Catherine Byrne listed below as arriving on the 'Lismoyne', but per her death certificate her father's name was Christopher, and she named her second eldest daughter Rosanna (her first being named Bridget, the same name as her husband's mother), and per her daughter Rosanna Clancy's birth registration, her birthplace was Dublin Ireland, aged 23 [so born ca 1835]. Per her death certificate, Catherine was listed as being born in Wicklow Ireland, and in the colony for 50 years [so arrived 1849],her father is listed as Christopher Byrne, mother unknown. http://www.irishfaminememorial.org/orphans/ships_nsw.htm Famine Orphan Girl Ships to Australia Shiplist: Lismoyne Arrived 29 November 1849 SRNSW 4/4911 Reel 2459 Surname First Name Age Native Place Parents Religion Other Byrne Catherine 15 Dublin Christopher & Rosanna (both dead) RC Rathdowne Union. Empl. G Y Yarnton, Glebe, £6-8, 3yrs. Im. Cor. 50/686 27 Aug 1850 Bathurst; 4/51 indentures cancelled, Molong. My Catherine Byrne married Denis Clancy on 23 Sep 1853 in Bathurst New South Wales at St Michael's Catholic Church, and died at Cargo NSW on 19 Feb 1899. So she was in the Bathurst / Molong area after this Catherine Byrne's indenture was cancelled at Molong in 1851. Your thoughts (or anyone elses) on whether it is likely that they are the same Catherine Byrne would be most welcome. Kind regards Helen Australia On Fri, Jan 28, 2011 at 3:45 PM, Cara_Links <cara_links@bigpond.com> wrote: > Have any of you to begin with trawled through the archives of this list, and > looked at any of the BYRNE data that is held there? > > You need to do this as this name invariably is discussed on this list  and > much has been placed in the archives. > > > Every Byrne family had  the good RC names of John, Patrick, Michael,so this > will be a slow process of elimination to locate your family in Ireland, ( > big sigh) we are all it appears on here doing one line or another of the > Byrne name, it isnt easy being a Byrne rellie. > > > Rathdowne Union as was asked about does cover part of Wicklow and if your > girl was a true orphan - which sometimes they were not complete orphans > sometimes they were half orphans one parent having gone to get work > sometimes in America etc, at around this time frame there was a dumping of > "orphans from the insitutes"  as you say it does say no relative in the > colony they in fact meant colony Australia unless you see the word as colony > and it should read county. > > But in my papers I do have this taken from the Rathdown  Indoor Relief Union > registers 1847-1850 , Orphans to Australia > which is appears it may be your lass, Catherine Byrne, aged 13 years, Roman > Catholic was healthy and clean when admitted was last admitted on the 1st > August 1848 discharged for Australia 15th August 1849..... now the one piece > of information that may assist you is that her Origin or electoral Division > was Killiney Co Wicklow > > I have not looked at my data base as yet but will, I am very interested in > these orphan girls and have  asked in the past if anyone was aware of what > happened to them, so I would like to know what became of your lass, and what > her future held for her. > > Whilst I could if you so desired add history on this subject it will take > time to compile it together, I dont have anything more immediately on her > family at hand - I will of course look in the data base asap. > > > That offer also applies to the other folk looking for Byrne data .... > But this weekend is busy for Cara we are ( countless folk)  doing a fund > raiser for flood victims here in Australia. > > So I will return to this subject by Monday > > Cheers > Cara > > *************************************** >  1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WICKLOW-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cara: I am still trying to find the siblings and parents of Robert Jones b. 1799 and d. 1849 buried in Kiltegan Attached is a list of Jones that I have in date order, but I have not been able to connect them to my Robert. Do you have any tree history on any of these Jones that I may add to my information. I am in contact with two other Jones families that came from this area of Holdenstown and are sure that we are related, but cannot make the connection. You help is appreciated. Thank you. Carol N.

How do we get to the archives please Cara?

Thank you for the Byrne information Maggie but as there were a few Lawrence Byrne's in Ireland it is difficult to pinpoint my particular one. Where did you find the reference's to George Byrne and his children? Do you know where they were baptised? Regards Carole

My g-g-grandmama and her sister came here a Famine Orphan in 1850 via the Tuam workhouse (yes, folks, Co. Galway). Both of their parents are shown as being alive. So they weren't even been half-orphans! Don't think there would have been a shortage of orphans in Co. Galway - it fared much worse than Co. Wicklow in the Great Hunger. In 1855 the girls paid passage for their mother and younger sister to come out. Mother is then shown as a widow. There's my "take it with a grain of salt" bit. As for my Wickow Mary Bryne/s - I think my best chance is to catch up with her "on the other side". Cheers Barbara

Have any of you to begin with trawled through the archives of this list, and looked at any of the BYRNE data that is held there? You need to do this as this name invariably is discussed on this list and much has been placed in the archives. Every Byrne family had the good RC names of John, Patrick, Michael,so this will be a slow process of elimination to locate your family in Ireland, ( big sigh) we are all it appears on here doing one line or another of the Byrne name, it isnt easy being a Byrne rellie. Rathdowne Union as was asked about does cover part of Wicklow and if your girl was a true orphan - which sometimes they were not complete orphans sometimes they were half orphans one parent having gone to get work sometimes in America etc, at around this time frame there was a dumping of "orphans from the insitutes" as you say it does say no relative in the colony they in fact meant colony Australia unless you see the word as colony and it should read county. But in my papers I do have this taken from the Rathdown Indoor Relief Union registers 1847-1850 , Orphans to Australia which is appears it may be your lass, Catherine Byrne, aged 13 years, Roman Catholic was healthy and clean when admitted was last admitted on the 1st August 1848 discharged for Australia 15th August 1849..... now the one piece of information that may assist you is that her Origin or electoral Division was Killiney Co Wicklow I have not looked at my data base as yet but will, I am very interested in these orphan girls and have asked in the past if anyone was aware of what happened to them, so I would like to know what became of your lass, and what her future held for her. Whilst I could if you so desired add history on this subject it will take time to compile it together, I dont have anything more immediately on her family at hand - I will of course look in the data base asap. That offer also applies to the other folk looking for Byrne data .... But this weekend is busy for Cara we are ( countless folk) doing a fund raiser for flood victims here in Australia. So I will return to this subject by Monday Cheers Cara

Would like to have any info on the family of Patt Kerns born Dec. 2,1821 to a Patt Kerns and Mary Kerns. He married a Bridget Williams on Sept. 30th,1847. two children were born to them in Ireland ( James & Thomas) prior to emmigrating to America around 1853. I believe Bridget was born in RC parish of Wicklow. Hope someone can provide more, such as siblings of Patt or parents of Bridget. Bob

Would like to have any info on the family of Patt Kerns born Dec. 2,1821 to a Patt Kerns and Mary Kerns. He married a Bridget Williams on Sept. 30th,1847. two children were born to them in Ireland ( James & Thomas) prior to emmigrating to America around 1853. I believe Bridget was born in RC parish of Wicklow. Hope someone can provide m

Hi everyone Since there has been some discussion about Byrne families from Co. Wicklow lately, I was wondering if anyone had come across a Christopher Byrne married to a Rosanna someone, who had a daughter Catherine Byrne / Byrnes born in Co. Wicklow ca. 1834. At 15 Catherine Byrne migrated to Australia on the Irish Female Orphans ship the "Lismoyne" which arrived in Sydney on 3 December 1849, listed as from Dublin, needlewoman, parents Christopher and Rosanna both death, RC, can't read or write, no relatives in the colony, and "Rathdowne Union" in the immigration notes. County Wicklow lies just south of Dublin on the east coast Rathdown Union was the workhouse covering part of County Dublin and County Wicklow. >From her death certificate, Catherine was born in Wicklow Ireland. Any information about this family would be most gratefully received. Kind regards Helen Australia