Rev. Thomas Greene didn't live in Spinans East. His residence was Greeneville (close to Spinans) and it's now called Kilranelagh House. His family were Dublin merchants who 'gentrified' themselves by renting part of the Trinity College estates in West Wicklow. They were minor gentry and landlords of the townlands in the immediate area of Kilranelagh. If you want to know more about them, see my article in the West Wicklow Historical Society Journal (issue No. 1 or 2 [I can't remember which]). Paul Gorry Original Message: ----------------- From: Yvonne yvonner@optushome.com.au Date: Sat, 4 Jun 2005 12:46:41 +1000 To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Wicklow] Rev. Thos. Greene Would like information about the Rev. Thos Greene, of Spinan's East, Civil Parish of Donaghmore. The name pops up also Coolinarig Lower and Kilranelagh in the mid-eighteen fifties. Any information about this gentleman would be welcome. Also, where is Spinan's East? Can't find it on my map? Thanks also to Cara for the information re the paths and byways of Wicklow. I would love to hear more about this. Yvonne ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== SUBJECT LINE~ Make it catch the eye of the reader, Body of the mail add as much information as you can ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Great quote. Anything more on the "Moderate clerical magistrates Revd Brownrigg", or any other Brownrigg?? Despite Bishop Brownrigg, most Brownriggs in the south were protestant. Jeff Jernegan ----- Original Message ----- From: "Graham & Deb Flanagan" <benflan@xtra.co.nz> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 11:04 PM Subject: [Wicklow] Finlay Family > Taken from Ruan O'Donnell's, The Rebellion in Wicklow 1798, Dublin: Irish > Academic Press, pp.247-248 > > This is from the 2nd Battle of Hacketstown: > > Revd James McGhee with nine orangemen offered strong resistance to rebels > who approached the otherwise vulnerable rear wall of the barracks. Among > those who had taken refuge in his fortified house was Garret Byrne's > estranged wife whom Musgrave alleged he 'wished to get rid of' and a > contingent of Donoughmore (Imaal) loyalists who found themselves pitted > against many of their Republican neighbours from behind the protection of > the stone walls of fortified houses. 284 The Imaal loyalists were very > probably supplementary yeoman (sic), given that the majority of military > age > male Protestant farmers of the valley had enlisted, a commitment which > obliged them to evacuate their homes with their families for the > comparative > safety of Hacketstown and Donard on the onset of rebellion. Some of their > peers even left the garrisoned Baltinglass in June in favour of the > slightly > less threatened sector of Ballitore in Kildare. The Imaal women in > McGhee's > house procured ammunition and loaded the weapons while their husbands, who > included members of the Fenton, Hanbidge and Finlay families, monitored > and > fired upon the rebels surging around the front of the auxiliary barracks. > Finlay was credited with discharging a blunderbuss at close range which > 'cut > a lane' through attackers who had been advancing under the cover of > featherbeds. Moderate clerical magistrates Revd Brownrigg and Revd Blake > were praised for their conduct in the battle and were probably with > McGhee's > group. 285 > > 284 Byrne, Memoirs, 1, p.28 > 285 McGhee to [Cooke], 7 May 1798, NA, 620/37/31. See also Fitzpatrick, > Sham Squire, p.335 and Garret Byrne and Edward Fitzgerald to Portland, 8 > April 1799, PRO, HO 100/66/411. Some of McGhee's 'prompt and decided > measures' during the rebellion years left him vulnerable to prosecution. > Petition of James McGhee, 22 April 1801, NA, OP 104/3 (1a). > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Shame on you how long ---is it since you posted your names to the list? > Or updated what you have found, told the list of your successe, your brick > walls. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Found at Derralossary ( I think where Erskine Childers is buried anyway) In loving memory of Kathleen Esther Nee Eager wife of Arthur Wm. Blennerhassett 95 Kenilworth Park Dublin Called ahome May 1960 aged 31 years a devoted wife and mother Cheers Cara

Hello Cara I also have a Valentine connection. We have a Sarah VALENTINE whom married William DOUGLAS in the early 1800's. They had a son William Marlbrough DOUGLAS born 1825. I have been given some Valentine names etc, but as yet have not been able to connect them to our family tree. Regards Garry New Zealand ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 1:23 AM Subject: [Wicklow] Amadeus Valentine > Amadeus Valentine married an Unknown Jane ........born circa 1816 > can anyone supply her maiden name for me and date of their marriage??? > > I have found four children to this union > Francis Blake > John James > Edward > Thomas > > I would be happy to accept anymore if anyone knows anymore on this family > of Valentine.............. > > I also have other Valentine names in my data base if anyone is still > seeking this name > > Yours in gene > Cara > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, Co Wicklow > genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > >

As dashing as the story is Susan, it may well if it was published appear in "Irish Folk Lore" a book that gathered details like this for the RTE And I think from memory the book was called just that Irish Folk Lore Cheers and thanks for the horror story glad I am not reading it in bed CARA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Susan Marshall" <susan_e_marshall@hotmail.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, June 06, 2005 5:54 PM Subject: RE: [Wicklow] THOMAS FINLAY PIKED? > Yes, poor old Thomas was piked to death after the Battle of Hacketstown. I > know of the story from my ggg aunt's journal. She was Mary Jane Eager, and > she was the gg grandaughter of Thomas Finlay (1740 - 1798). She wrote her > journal in around 1976, just before she died. > > The story goes... > > ' My great grandfather, BILLY EAGER, (called "Billy Britton"- and I do not > know why) was born in Kilcarney some time in the latter half of the 18th > century. He was a Yeoman and fought for the Government against the > rebels in the 1798 Rising. He was in the Battle of Hacketstown. > Evidently, the Rectory was their Headquarters at that time. I believe > the Rector's wife and daughter "ran" lead bullets to keep the rifles or > blunderbusses supplied when the lead was finished. The men cut the brass > buttons off their knee boots and any rebel that got a brass button into > him didn't recover in a hurry. The Yeomen won the day and the Pike men > had to retire. > > When the country had settled down after the Rebellion, Billy acquired a > farm at Ballinafoyle which has been in the Eager family ever since. About > the year 1806 he married Kate (probably Catherine) Finlay, Ballinabarney, > daughter of a local farmer by whom he had six children - 3 sons and 3 > daughters. One set of twins (boys I think). > > Kate's three brothers fought in the Battle of Hacketstown with Billy > Eager. When the Pike men were defeated that day, some of them on their > way home, to be of help in Dunlavin, met old Mr.Finlay at Ballinabarney > Bridge - he was on his way home from the hill where he had been seeing to > his sheep during the absence of his two sons. He asked them how the day > had gone - he was anxious for news of his sons - I suppose he met their > spite after their defeat - they murdered the old man on Ballinabarney > Bridge and then went down to his house, turned out his three daughters > (one of which was Kate, the girl Billy afterwards married when he acquired > the farm at Ballinafoyle) and set the house on fire.' > > Pretty awful story, but I suppose it happened fairly frequently around > those times. > > Does anybody know if this story has been published in a history book about > Wicklow? > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not > base their whole search around it. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Kilmacanoge Glencormick South Rathdown Aghowle Aghowle Lower Shillelagh Aghowle Barnacashel Shillelagh Ballydowling Arklow Dunganstown Rathdrum Ballydowling Newcastle Glenealy Rathdrum Ballydowling Ballinacor North Rathdrum Rathdrum I could use some help with grave info on the above townlands. Can anybody out there help? I'm looking for Dowlings. Thanx, Paul "I shall pass this way but once. Therefore, any good that I can do or any kindness that I can show, let me do it now, for I shall not pass this way again"

Would he be the son of Wingfield Greene, would I be so lucky .....probably not wishing and hoping he may be Did he marry an Abigail ( thats of course if hes Church of Ireland Lol0 or was Ralph his daddy as you dont give a date its hard to link to any of these Thomas Greenes I have Or is he the father of all of the above ??? CARA ----- Original Message ----- From: "Yvonne" <yvonner@optushome.com.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, June 04, 2005 12:46 PM Subject: [Wicklow] Rev. Thos. Greene > Would like information about the Rev. Thos Greene, of Spinan's East, Civil > Parish of Donaghmore. The name pops up also Coolinarig Lower and > Kilranelagh in the mid-eighteen fifties. Any information about this > gentleman would be welcome. > Also, where is Spinan's East? Can't find it on my map? > Thanks also to Cara for the information re the paths and byways of > Wicklow. I would love to hear more about this. > Yvonne > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > SUBJECT LINE~ Make it catch the eye of the reader, > Body of the mail add as much information as you can > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

Yup, Kathleen is one of mine! She is the daughter of John Eager and Essie (don't know her surname), of Ballinafoyle, and the grandaughter of Germaine Eager and Mary Jane Collins. Susan

Hi Cara, Just recently received this information:- Mary Jane Eager, daughter of William Eager and Katherine Finlay (daughter of Thomas Finlay who was piked to death) b. Abt 1819 ( Katherine died soon after - either Mary, or her sister Anne was the youngest child) m. Abt 1830 Henry Hinch. Son of William Hinch and Hannah, Knocknaree. Leased land from Earl Fitzwilliam at Knocknaree and Toorboy. Children 1. William b. 1830, Wicklow. d. 21st Nov 1914, Queensland - did not marry 2. Thomas m. Elizabeth Lamb. Stayed in Ireland. Elizabeth is buried in St. Peters, Kiltegan Thomas and Elizabeth had two children 2.1 Henry Hinch b. 1887 m. Elizabeth Blackburn 2.2 Margaret Jane Hinch b. 1888 m. Matthew Wheatley 3. James John Martin b. 1845 Kiltegan, d. 1924 Queensland m. Margaret REIDY, 29 Jun 1869, St Mary's R.C., Limerick, Ireland Arrived on the 'Light Brigade' in Brisbane on 12 December 1869. It departed London 30 August 1869. James and Margaret's children 3.1 William Henry (1869-1948) b. Queensland 3.2 Elizabeth Mary (1872-1947) 3.3 Margaret Jane (1873-1932) 3.4 Bridget Kate (1875-1876) 3.5 Michael John (1878-1964) 3.6 Helena Agnes (1879-1951) 3.7 Thomas Patrick (1881-1960) 3.8 Patrick (1883-1883) 4. Catherine (Kitty) m. Henry Langrell, 21 Feb 1860, St Peters, Kiltegan, Wicklow. I have more information if your are interested, and can send it through off list. Are you related to this family, or are you just interested in them.

Hi Cara.... Patrick Toole married Mary Eagar 8 October, 1855 in Arklow. Witnesses were Mathew and Sarah Murphy. At Arklow Church: Honora was Baptized 27 December, 1855. Sponsors: Edward Wolohand and Mary Doyle. Residence was Ballycoog. Elizabeth was Baptized 19 October, 1858. Sponsors: Peter Nolan and Mary Eagar. Residence Monatague. Laurence was Baptized 12 February, 1861. Sponsors: John Lacy and Margaret Dunne. Residence Ballintemple. AND William was Baptized 17 April, 1863. Sponsors: William Murphy and Sarah Murphy. Residence Ballinvally. Enjoy, Peggy

Hi Arlene I have 2 Vicars/Vickers you might be interested in : John Vickers was Baptized 25 June, 1831 in the R.C. Chapel in Glendalough. His parents were Timothy Vickers and Ann Roberts. The sponsors were James and Margaret Toole. also... Laurence Vickers was Baptized 25 October, 1835 in the same Church, having the same parents. The sponsors were Michael Toole and Mary Healey. I have a note - Killifin - which was probably the residence. The actual spelling in the handwritten records was Vicars, but for my own purposes, I changed it to Vickers, but my notes indicate it was written Vicars. Hope this helps, Peggy p.s. I have another Vickers family from Arklow (not very far away) - John and Sarah Toole. If you think there might be a connection, let me know.

Yes, poor old Thomas was piked to death after the Battle of Hacketstown. I know of the story from my ggg aunt's journal. She was Mary Jane Eager, and she was the gg grandaughter of Thomas Finlay (1740 - 1798). She wrote her journal in around 1976, just before she died. The story goes... ' My great grandfather, BILLY EAGER, (called “Billy Britton”- and I do not know why) was born in Kilcarney some time in the latter half of the 18th century. He was a Yeoman and fought for the Government against the rebels in the 1798 Rising. He was in the Battle of Hacketstown. Evidently, the Rectory was their Headquarters at that time. I believe the Rector’s wife and daughter “ran” lead bullets to keep the rifles or blunderbusses supplied when the lead was finished. The men cut the brass buttons off their knee boots and any rebel that got a brass button into him didn’t recover in a hurry. The Yeomen won the day and the Pike men had to retire. When the country had settled down after the Rebellion, Billy acquired a farm at Ballinafoyle which has been in the Eager family ever since. About the year 1806 he married Kate (probably Catherine) Finlay, Ballinabarney, daughter of a local farmer by whom he had six children – 3 sons and 3 daughters. One set of twins (boys I think). Kate’s three brothers fought in the Battle of Hacketstown with Billy Eager. When the Pike men were defeated that day, some of them on their way home, to be of help in Dunlavin, met old Mr.Finlay at Ballinabarney Bridge – he was on his way home from the hill where he had been seeing to his sheep during the absence of his two sons. He asked them how the day had gone – he was anxious for news of his sons – I suppose he met their spite after their defeat – they murdered the old man on Ballinabarney Bridge and then went down to his house, turned out his three daughters (one of which was Kate, the girl Billy afterwards married when he acquired the farm at Ballinafoyle) and set the house on fire.' Pretty awful story, but I suppose it happened fairly frequently around those times. Does anybody know if this story has been published in a history book about Wicklow?

Cara, I have a Rebecca VALENTINE married to a George HARBOURNE, c1760 Children Rebecca 1761 Baptized Donoughmore C of I Parish, Co. Wicklow George 1762 Jeffery 1763 Do you have anything further on this family? Gordon McCracken UE Vancouver Island BC ++++++++++++++End of Reply+++++++++++++++ ->-----Original Message----- ->From: Cara_Links [mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au] ->Sent: Sunday, 05 June, 2005 6:24 AM ->To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com ->Subject: [Wicklow] Amadeus Valentine -> -> ->Amadeus Valentine married an Unknown Jane ........born circa 1816 ->can anyone supply her maiden name for me and date of their ->marriage??? -> ->I have found four children to this union ->Francis Blake ->John James ->Edward ->Thomas -> ->I would be happy to accept anymore if anyone knows anymore on ->this family of Valentine.............. -> ->I also have other Valentine names in my data base if anyone ->is still seeking this name -> ->Yours in gene ->Cara -> -> ->==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== ->Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, ->Co Wicklow genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. -> ->============================== ->Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your ->family and the ->areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. ->Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -> ->

Going for a hat trick I might as well try Henry Hinch married Mary Eager was it a second marriage was it a first marriage was she another by the same name that married Patrick Toole I have only one child for this union James John Martin Hinch born circa 1845 his life ends in Australia I am seeking more information on this family also so anyone wanting to aid and abet me in finding these families rellies feel free i would love a boost this week ...........in researching these names and there are hundreds more I can be asking you about after all I have never cracked those BYRNE bambinos yet............ Cheers CARA

Another ask Patrick Toole married Mary Eager I need the date of marriage if anyone has it and I have three children Honora Elizabeth Laurence Would be happy to accept any other data that anyone is willing to share with me Cara

Amadeus Valentine married an Unknown Jane ........born circa 1816 can anyone supply her maiden name for me and date of their marriage??? I have found four children to this union Francis Blake John James Edward Thomas I would be happy to accept anymore if anyone knows anymore on this family of Valentine.............. I also have other Valentine names in my data base if anyone is still seeking this name Yours in gene Cara

I am looking for information on the Vicars name. On my g grandfather's naturalization papers it states he was born in Wicklow. He was born February 20, 1836. His parents were Timothy Vicars and Ann Roberts Vicars. His mother Ann Roberts was born, I believe in NewtownmountKennedy Wicklow. The towns mentioned for the Vicars are Red Cross and Seven Churches. Any information would be appreciated. Arlene Butler

Dear Cyril, Thank you, yet again, for your devotion for genealogy and the willingness to help others. Although not my direct line, I was able to key in my EMBURY family name on the Commonwealth War Graves Commission website that you posted and came across two names in my database, (Canadian org. from Ireland): Charles B. EMBURY and John Henry Cameron EMBURY. Thank you for your help. Denise S. New Jersey, USA

Yvonne at yvonner@optushome.com.au writes: << Also, where is Spinan's East? Can't find it on my map? >> Yvonne, Spinans East is immediately south of Spinans Hill, and just east of Spinans Middle which - of course - is just east of Spinans West <gr>. This collection of four townlands is 3 to 4 miles ENE of Baltinglass, in Donaghmore civil parish. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts

Yvonne Was your Rev Thos Greene an Anglican or Catholic? If Anglican I would suggest that you email the Representative Church Body Library. They would have information/history on all Anglican Clergy - I have followed up two that touched my family history. www.ireland.anglican.org/library/ gives you information on the library and their email address is library@ireland.anglican.org Joyce Tunstead -------Original Message------- From: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Date: 06/05/05 11:17:14 To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Wicklow] Rev. Thos. Greene Would like information about the Rev. Thos Greene, of Spinan's East, Civil Parish of Donaghmore. The name pops up also Coolinarig Lower and Kilranelagh in the mid-eighteen fifties. Any information about this gentleman would be welcome. Also, where is Spinan's East? Can't find it on my map? Thanks also to Cara for the information re the paths and byways of Wicklow. I would love to hear more about this. Yvonne ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== SUBJECT LINE~ Make it catch the eye of the reader, Body of the mail add as much information as you can ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 04/06/05 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.6.2 - Release Date: 04/06/05