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    1. Re: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-CHATHAMS
    2. In a message dated 7/2/2005 7:39:09 PM Pacific Daylight Time, WeadickResearch@aol.com writes: This is a real longshot, but I send these only because all the names in your post are mentioned here....But the Joseph below was born earlier than your Joseph. These are Baptismal records from S.S. Mary and Peter's R.C. Church in Arklow, Co. Wicklow. Hi Peggy, Your letter was addressed to Eileen, but since I haven't seen any other CHATHAM posts, I'm going to claim it for myself. :-) The names are indeed very similar with only the birthdate being off by six years. I don't think that's a whole lot to worry about from those days, they seemed to skip around with their birth dates a lot. I am definitely going to keep this on file as this is the first I've seen a Joseph Chatham married to a Catherine. I'll be checking the Chathams now to see if I can possibly work in those other names. Thanks so much for the information ... I feel so helpless sitting here in California. I subscribed to the census from Ireland and UK, but the earliest from Ireland was 1891 and my folks would have been long gone by then ... possibly swimming since I can't find them on a ship. I'll keep looking though as I'm ready for another thrill like the one I got when I discovered they were buried just about an hour and a half from where I live! It was a very emotional moment when I was able to put flowers on their grave! Thanks again, Gail Vacaville, CA

    07/02/2005 09:07:40
    1. Re: [Wicklow] ROLL CALL RULES - TRAINOR
    2. Terry and Joy Trainor.
    3. Hi Cara, Here 'tis. I am researching the family history of 3 brothers from Wicklow; I would be forever grateful to receive any information on parents or siblings in Ireland and if any of them also migrated (perhaps to the US or elsewhere). 1. In Ireland, Abt 1800 - 1860. 2. a. Luke TRAINOR - Born abt 1821, Wicklow (?), Ireland. Died 6 July 1887, Kadina, South Australia. Married Esther KIRWAN (?) , Born abt 1820, Wicklow (?) Ireland, died 30 January 1898, Kadina, South Australia. (presumably) free immigrants with children Ann, Jane and Mary. Child John born after arrival in SA. b. Patrick TRAINOR - Born abt 1825, Wicklow (?), Ireland. Died 13 December 1903, Wallaroo Mines, South Australia. Married Esther NOLAN, Born abt 1929, Wicklow(?), Ireland. Died 7 May 1911, Wallaroo Mines, South Australia. Government immigrants with children Anne and Margaret. 6 more children after arrival in SA. c. Thomas TRAINOR - Born abt 1836, Wicklow (?), Ireland. Died 2 October 1907, Kadina, South Australia. Immigrated as a single man in the company of brother Patrick and his family. Married Ellen Catherine Cullen in SA and had 10 chn. 3. All three brothers and their families were devout Roman Catholic. 5. Their occupations were given on their ship's passenger list as follow; Luke - Miner, Patrick - Labourer, Thomas - Woodcarter. 6. Ship they left Ireland on - not known. However Luke arrived in Port Adelaide with his family aboard the JOHN BUNYAN on 23 May 1854 from Plymouth. Patrick (with family) and Thomas arrived Port Adelaide aboard the NAVARINO on the 17th July 1857 from Plymouth. Patrick and Thomas were listed in the ship's passenger list as "Government Immigrants". All three brothers were shown on the passenger lists as being from Wicklow, Ireland. 7. They were not convicts. In contrast to most other settlements in Australia, South Australia did not receive any convicts and was founded as a free settlement. 8. When they left Ireland, Luke (in 1854) would have been abt 33 yrs old, Patrick and Thomas (in 1857) would have been about 32 yrs and 21 yrs, respectively. Regards, Terry Trainor.

    07/02/2005 04:45:07
    1. Re: IRL-WICKLOW-The TRAYNOR BROTHERS
    2. Hi....here's a few goodies for you, I think.....(Rathdrum Church records) No Marriage record for Luke Traynor and Esther Kirwan Their Children: Hugh - 1844 - 12 April - Parents: Traynor, Luke & Kirwan, Esther - Res: Rossahane Sponsors: James and Sarah Kirwan - Film #6476 - Co. Wicklow - Rathdrum Patrick - 1847 - 7 June - Traynor, Luke Kirwan, Esther Rossahane Patrick Traynor and Margaret Dunn 6476 Wicklow Rathdrum Jane 1849 25 February Traynor, Luke Kirwan, Esther Aughrim Patrick Stanley and Ellen Dunn 6476 Wicklow Rathdrum Jane 1849 25 February Traynor, Luke Kirwan, Esther Aughrim Patrick Stanly and Ellen Dunn? 6476 Wicklow Rathdrum Jane 1849 25 February Traynor, Luke Kirwan, Esther Aughrim Patrick Stanley and Ellen Dunn 6476 Wicklow Rathdrum Mary 1852 11 May Traynor, Luke Kirwan, Esther Aughrim John Traynor and Esther Nolan 6476 Wicklow Rathdrum Marriage Record for PATRICK TRAYNOR: (note actual spelling in parenthesis) 1853 - Traynor, Patrick m. Nolan, Esther - 8 February - Wit: Luke Trenor and Mary Nolan (Trenor) - Film #6476 - Co. Wicklow - Rathdrum Church - Res. - Aughrim No records for any children of this union. Esther's Baptismal Record (and parents) Nowlan - Esther - 1829 - 28 June born to Nowlan, Francis & Ford, Margaret - no residence given. Sponsors: John Butler and Esther Ford Film #6476 - Co. Wicklow - Rathdrum Church Esther had two brothers…. Garrett - 1824 - 8 October to Nowlan, Francis & Ford, Margaret - Res: TinnakillySponsors: Charles Eviston and Biddy Nowlan - Film #6476 - Co. Wicklow Rathdrum Church Peter - 1827 - 12 April to Nowlan, Francis & Ford, Margaret - Res.: Tinnakilly Sponsors: James Eviston and Rose Nowlan - Film #6476 - Co. Wicklow - Rathdrum Church Possible marriage for Esther's brother Garrett Nowlan: 1853 - Nolan, Garret m. Cundle?, Ellen - 22 November - Wit: Patrick and Hannah Byrne Film #6476 - Co. Wicklow - Rathdrum Church - Residence: Rosahane Sorry.....nothing on Thomas. Luke's first son and daughter were names Hugh and Jane, probably the names of Luke's parents. I don't have any records for Hugh and Jane. Hope this helps you, Peggy Leonard/NY

    07/02/2005 04:40:35
    1. Re: IRL-WICKLOW-CHATHAMS
    2. Hi Eileen.... This is a real longshot, but I send these only because all the names in your post are mentioned here....But the Joseph below was born earlier than your Joseph. These are Baptismal records from S.S. Mary and Peter's R.C. Church in Arklow, Co. Wicklow. Chatham, Mary - 1827 - 20 January - Parents: Chatham, James & Shelton, Catherine - Res: Arklow - Spon: JohnDourneen/CatherineBall Wicklow Chatham, John - 1829 - 23 September - Parents: Chatham, James & Shelton, Catherine - Res: Arklow - Spon: Sarah Doyle Wicklow Chatham, Joseph - 1832 - 17 Dec. - Parents: Chatham, James & Shelton, Catherine - Res: Arklow - Spon: John & Harriet Carthy Wicklow Chatham, Catherine - 1835 - 19 Feb.- Parents: Chatham, James & Shelton, Catherine - Res: Arklow - Spon: PeterBrowne/MaryRedmond Wicklow Chatham, Rose - 1837 - 1 November - Parents: Chatham, James & Shelton, Catherine - Res: Arklow - Spon: JamesDurneen/JaneDoyle Wicklow As I said....this is a longshot. Peggy Leonard/NY

    07/02/2005 04:38:40
    1. re:Roll Call Names - KEOGH/SHANNON
    2. Shirley Parker
    3. Here goes Cara... 1. KEOGH family. Parents Dermot KEOGH married Ann Toomy, County Kildare. Catherine Keogh, Patrick KEOGH and John KEOGH came to Sydney and settled around the Glebe area. 2. 1800 to 1900 3, John SHANNON, Cty.Cavan married Catherine KEOGH from County Wicklow, at St.Mary's Cathedral, Sydney in 1867. 4. They were Roman Catholic 5. Catherine was a Servant in Ireland and had a character reference from Sir Charles Rickers,of Ballymore Eustace Parish. After marriage John SHANNON was Coach Prop. 6, "Northumberland" from Plymouth August 18 1862 7. "Northumberland" arrived Sydney November 12, 1862 8. They were assisted passengers, deposit being paid for them by brother Patrick who came on "British Trident" in 1861. 9. Ship's list showed that John KEOGH, brother to Catherine was with her. 10. Not convicts. 11. Catherine KEOGH 24yrs of age and brother John KEOGH 22yrs. Thank you, Shirley Parker

    07/02/2005 03:48:51
    1. STUART,HAMILTON
    2. Grace
    3. I'm still looking for my elusive Stuart family. Cara and Peggy, thank you for the information you already supplied me with but am still trying to find out who the ancestors are. I know that George Stuart (b. apprx. 1863) was married to Frances Bertha Hamilton (birthdate unknown). They had 8 children: George, Andrew, Sissy, Norah, Maire, Bertha, Helen (b. Jan. 26, 1896) and Charles. I understand that George Sr. had at least one brother named Samuel (b. approx. 1857) who married Annie ? (b. approx. 1861). Samuel and Annie had one son, Thomas Charles Stuart (b. 1898) who died while serving with the RAF on Dec. 12, 1918). It appears that the parents of George and Samuel are George Stuart (b. approx. 1806) and Susanna ? Stuart (b. approx. 1814). We are a bit confused about the age of Susanna since she would have been 43 at the time of Samuel's birth and 49 at the time of George's birth. (George and Susanne's tombstone is also for George and Frances Stuart and their daughter Norah). Could George and Susanna have been anything other than the parents of George and Samuel (ex. aunt and uncle who adopted the boys after their own parent's death or grandparents of George and Samuel?). Another puzzle is about Frances Hamilton's family. My father-in-law insists that Frances' father or grandfather was Lord Major of Dublin. Unfortunately the only Hamiltons we could find were in office in the mid 1700's. (All Stuart family members were C of I according to the 1901 and 1911 census.) Any information on these families would be appreciated. Grace

    07/02/2005 02:14:53
    1. ROLL CALL NAMES -HAGAN-GRANNELL
    2. Cara_Links
    3. Francis Hagan married Anne Grannell and she had a family of 10 children, among those was a man who was to become a Monsignor Hagan, now I know when Monsignor Hagan was born and where I also know he died in Rome, I even know where he was educated. I even know about the College he was responsible for in Monte Celio, my problem lies in the fact that very little is recorded of this man's life in Ireland. So my request is when you are all googling away looking for details is that should you come across any details of this mans life, or should you read anything on him in a library you will duly note it and send it on to me. Why is it so important to me, well that guy who runs around in the rain hail and sunshine lovingly referred to ( on a good day) as himself, is related to this family, and we have spent many a long day researching this family. So now I am seeking some meat for the story............... But along with this I would indeed welcome any dates or names that link to the Grannell family and where do they hail from none other than Ballycoog Co Wicklow Ireland. Now this mail is just what you should not be doing .............no dates ...........thats bad........ Let me see John Hagan was born in Ballycoog registered Arklow 31/5/1873 and died in 1930 in Rome aged 56 years. He entered Cloncliffe College Dublin in 1893 and two year later he was studying theology in the Irish College in Rome, but from time to time he returned home to the farm at Ballycoog and his mothers hearth was always open to many visitors when he was there. Fondly called Father John, he worked as a Curate in Maynooth and Ballitore and in 1904 he replaced Dr Edward Byrne as vice-rector of the Irish College Rome and became its rector in 1919. Perhaps the reason data on his Irish life is so hard to find is that he lived so much in Rome, but even in Rome it is hard to find. But I thought with more eyes looking out for me I may get lucky Cheers CARA

    07/02/2005 01:25:16
    1. ROLL CALL RULES
    2. Cara_Links
    3. This is an official ROLL CALL so please I cannot express this enough, especially as we have so many new listers, and welcome back to our old listers, who for one reason or another had taken a break from here and have now returned. Now for those of you who are going to partake in this roll call and I am aware there is a heap of listers who never take part, in any thing let alone a roll call. Rules of play for Roll Call listers 1- in the subject line please remove anyone elses names and list your own in Capitals preferably 2- in the body of he mail, please tell us the time frame you are researching 3- Christian names of both parties and maiden name of wife if known 4- Religion if known 5- what did they work at if known either in their new home or their old one ( if known) 6- On what ship did they leave Ireland in ( if known) or any other ship they traveled on as a passenger would be nice to know 7- What ship did they arrive where ( if known ) and when ( if known) 8- Were they immigrants or emmigrants were they free, convicts or bounty passengers 9- Did they leave alone with family eg. were they with ma and pa or did they indeed travel out alone or with a sibling. 10- Were they a convict ? 11- Do you know what age they were when they left Ireland ? 12- So you are not seeking an ancestor but you may want a name of a church, a parish, a picture, it doesnt matter, your request is as important as the next person who makes a request. All of the above is just a simple guide to aiding those seeking any relative, for what you see, as a useless piece of information may well be the very piece that someone else holds the key to- This may well be the Last Roll Call if we dont get more input from Listers, last Roll call we had no more than a and I may be exagerating when I say 12 listers requesting ............. Sorry I am feeling a little jaded Need some Wicklow air Cheers for now Cara

    07/02/2005 01:07:40
    1. Re: [Wicklow] ROLL CALL - CHATHAM, BURNS
    2. My Great Grandfather was Joseph Chatham born about 1839 in County Wicklow according to his headstone in Jackson, CA USA. Anything I find of him in the US lists him as a miner so I assume he was also working as a miner in Ireland. He was married to Bridget Burns, born about 1840 unknown place in Ireland. They were both Roman Catholic. I have no knowledge of where their marriage took place ... the first child I find is Mary born in Michigan, US in 1871. The second that I know of was Catherine, born Gold Hill, NV, US in 1878. By 1880, they had made their way to Jackson, CA (gold country) where twin boys were born and died that same year. They were named James and John ... according to the same headstone where their parents are buried. I have no idea which was born first so run into a problem trying to follow the naming pattern. Also buried in that grave site is a Catherine Chatham born 1803 in County Wexford. Again, by assumtion, I believe her to be Joseph's mother since his second daughter was also Catherine. So I had knowledge of Joseph and Bridget having four children until one of the later census images where it states that Bridget still had three of eight children alive. I could account for two alive, Mary and Catherine and two dead, James and John. There was a James Chatham in the Virginia City area from 1875 (newspapers items about him boxing) until the 1880 census where he is listed as a miner. Possibly a brother? Also found one James and two Johns in the 1870 Michigan census ... another brother? I can't find any of these folks on the ships lists which are posted so far as having landed in the US. My next guess is that they came into Canada and then crossed into Michigan. So much guessing and not many facts. Poor Bridget is pretty much left out in the cold as I have very little information about her accept for her birth year and that she lived until 1923 and was buried with her husband and babies in Jackson, CA. I would love to hear from anyone who might have the slightest lead. Gail Vacaville, CA

    07/02/2005 10:44:48
    1. Re: Roll Call - REDMOND
    2. Hi All, I am researching my great grandfather who came from Wicklow and moved to Wexford. He was born in Wicklow and I believe married in Wicklow before going to Wexford. His name was Thomas Redmond his wife's name was Mary. I don't know where in Wicklow they lived. I believe they were probably married somewhere from 1850 - 1860. They only had one child my grandfather - Patrick. He was born in 1860 - 1861 - I think. Thanks for any help anyone can give. Eileen

    07/02/2005 03:50:15
    1. ST PATRICK MONTREAL -IRISH CONNECTION
    2. Cara_Links
    3. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/Marriages_7.htm This links to marriages that have been sailing down the Co Carlow list that occured in St Patrick Montreal with an Irish connection and NOT necessarily JUST Carlow and may be of interest to other researchers. I did see a Co Wicklow one go flying by me through the week CARA

    06/30/2005 10:23:00
    1. Re: [Wicklow] ROLL CALL - REVELL
    2. Brian & Anona
    3. The only Revell I have come across is Anne bn 1823, md Jan.19.1846 to William Henry Earls bn1822, both from Arklow. Does she belong to you? Anona Robinson. ----- Original Message ----- From: <S1u2z3@aol.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 07, 2005 12:23 PM Subject: [Wicklow] ROLL CALL - REVELL > In answer to Cara's roll call, I want to throw out my family names and hope > for some new information. In 1848, my great-great grandparents, James Revell > and Eleanor (maiden name Brass) Revell sailed on the ship Chester with their > ten children (the eldest was my great-grandfather John Revell) and settled in > Wisconsin, USA. Some evidence points to their most recent residence in Ireland > as in or near Redcross, County Wicklow. Eleanor's Brass antecedents are > fairly well documented, but it is unknown which of the many Revells in Wicklow that > James was connected with. His birth date was 1803; hers was 1807. We have > their marriage date (12 October 1830) and thanks to Cara a baptismal record for > eldest son John. The brick wall is the parents of James. If anyone runs > across them, please let me know! > > Thanks. > Suzanne Revell > USA > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not base their whole search around it. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 0.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.9/42 - Release Date: 7/6/05 > >

    06/30/2005 09:10:25
    1. Re: [Wicklow] ST PATRICK MONTREAL -IRISH CONNECTION
    2. Anne Burgess
    3. Thanks very much for this, Cara. Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, June 30, 2005 1:23 AM Subject: [Wicklow] ST PATRICK MONTREAL -IRISH CONNECTION > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlcar2/Marriages_7.htm > > This links to marriages that have been sailing down the Co Carlow list > that occured in St Patrick Montreal with an Irish connection and NOT > necessarily JUST Carlow > and may be of interest to other researchers. > > I did see a Co Wicklow one go flying by me through the week > > CARA > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not > base their whole search around it. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

    06/30/2005 02:01:06
    1. Information re MEATES
    2. Maureen Lynch
    3. Anything known about William MEATES (MATES?) born about 1817, son of Thomas MEATES and Sarah RADFORD. William married Ellen HODGINS from Co Offaly (KIngs Co) in Thomastown Co Kilkenny on November 10th 1838 They later migrated to Australia and New Zealand. Any suggestions as to how I can find out about employees of large Protestant landholders in the Thomastown area at that time? Maureen

    06/29/2005 03:36:47
    1. MINERS ETC AND AVOCA
    2. Cara_Links
    3. 29/6/2005 Avoca Much has been said about this place, and I doubt I can do it no more justice than many others have before me , but why not more from someone who is only ever so slightly biased towards it's beauty. We all should know that the words of Thomas Moore who immortalised in time Avoca in his poem of the "Sweet Vale of Avoca" they were inspired by the Meetings of the Waters near to Avoca township in 1807 And I tell you that our resident poet Daz has also captured Avoca in words ( if he shares them with you ) are worthy of a read. But his were most likely inspired by the lips meeting an entirely different kind of water in the local, many years later, than when Thomas Moore sat down to write his words beside the river. I cannot exaggerate the beauty of Avoca, especially in Autumn, with the leaves on the trees turning to all shades of gold, and orange, one must stand and view this scene for themselves to understand why such a place can leave an everlasting impression upon your mind and deep within your heart. If you have the energy and a willing body the view from Cronebane Hill ( 812 feet above sea level) is worth the climb, where you will view the valley of Avonmore, Avonbeg and Avoca, and look to the valley of Glenmalure and Glendalough ( future words on those places later) and see the Mountains of Lugnaquilla, which when said by a local rolls fluently off their tongue in such away the mountains come alive, with love. At Cronebane sits a tiny pebble, only 4 meters long, 3 meters broad and 3 meters high, just a wee pebble *folklore says it was tossed here by Finn McCool and is known as one of his hurling stones.* And according to local tradition yet once again there was more of these stones around the area but an over enthusiastic clergyman in the 17th Century went about blowing them up, as he believed that it added to the paganism. The mottee stone has handles so you may climb to the top of it to enjoy the view, but it is not for the faint hearted on a windy day, I can assure you, as there are no railings. It is said that one of the landed gentry *Robert Howard* placed these handles here so he and his bride could sit together and take in the view at sunset. Castle Howard lies secreted, in the woodland, to the right and can only be noticed as your approach the Mottee stone. The castle was originally built as a fortified house for the early mining masters of Avoca, during the 17th Century, it was sold later to Robert Howard, a brother of the viscount Wicklow as his marriage settlement , formerly known as *Cronebane Lodge* Avoca Valley of course was the location of the Copper mines. Modern mining is believed to have commenced about 1730, Roe and Company of Macclesfield ( UK) were the main share holders in the mine in this era, The company Chairman being Abraham Mills, from Chester. Among other shareholders were, Thos Weaver, John Jeffers, Brian and Robert Hodgeson (various spelling of this name) Richard Walker, Thos Leyland and John Bolton. The Williams Family ( one I am seeking details of ) came from Cornwall and were predominant share holders at East Avoca from 1832, they introduced to the area a new energy source in -Steam power and today the engine houses and chimney stacks, that once pumped water and hoisted ore, rise majestically through the trees and surrounds reminding you of an era passed long gone now, as you stop to view these mighty chimney stacks and engine houses, you also notice the mounds of yellow soil left behind. But such colour only adds to the beauty of this place. With its backdrop of trees with its different shades in the Autumn season and its forty shades of green in the Springtime. The Avoca river divides not only the mining into East and West but it also is the division line between the surrounding district, in as much as it was the line between which church you may or may not have attended, even to the burial ground your ancestors were laid in. Mining was recorded on the Eastern side in 1734 and on the Western side in 1780, mining in the west ceasing in c1813 after a disagreement with the owners. Then around 1915, copper prices dropped, and mining ceased in East Avoca. But as we know from time to time and even today they still, are testing and researching the soils around Avoca. 1839 saw the King Of Sicily placing a high tax on the export of Sulphur, and with the industrialisation in Britain, this created a huge demand for this sulphur source, and this led to an increase in employment in Avoca as it became the main source for this product. 1840 saw almost 2,500 people employed in the Avoca Mines, West Avoca sending their exports through Arklow, and East sending theirs via Wicklow Port. Henry Hodgeson mined at west Avoca from the 1820's and he developed the mineral tramway, (this track later becoming the main railway route,) to the port of Arklow ( Julie Claydon ancestors) this tramway was built to the Arklow Port, and through Henry Hodgeson's generous sponsorship of Famine relief the building of the Arklow Port. Little spoken of is the Whaley family ( more on this man later also) they actually had a small lead mine in a portion of West Avoca. The Avoca village with its little four legged resident tour guide ( Riggs) is set in the image of the past of yesterday, with its narrow streets, it makes you wonder of days of yesterday when no doubt it rang to the hills of many different voices, and sounds of engines pumping, of past miners, who lived in the township or its surrounds, these days the name Avoca has sprung readily to the lips, as it gained recognition through the Television show called Ballykissangel and my quirky nature, will not resist the oft repeated correction it has and always will be *Avoca* because long before the TV sitcom there was Avoca and long after the TV show has faded in memory there will still be Avoca, Co Wicklow Ireland. But it was not always called Avoca, indeed there was a time when it was called Ovoca, and Newbridge .( more on this later) Miners names that have passed through Avoca area that I have found to be still around in 1901but to name few, William Toole aged 31, Suphur, Albert Wynne aged 68, Mining engineer, Thomas Toole aged 22 his brother James aged 25 Copper, George Tuke aged 42, Copper, John McGrath, aged 71 Ochre, Thomas Byrne aged 60 Sulphur, William Barry aged 22, Sulphur, James Brien aged 48 Sulphur, Laurence Donnelly aged 50 Ochre, John Heffernon age unknown, Sulphur, John Breen aged 44 Coal, Edward Brien aged 70, Coal, Samuel Bradford aged 59 Coal, George Reid aged 58 Coal, John Kniveton aged 27, Ochre, Edward Gaffney aged 56, Coal, James Higgins _Mine Captain And a later miner Mr Beatie died as a result of a mine accident, buried in Avoca Roman Catholic church Yard,along no doubt with many a miner who was buried in this and other surrounding graveyards around the village of Avoca, some dying of natural causes and others from mining mishaps. More on these towns later Cheers for now Cara

    06/29/2005 07:28:59
    1. HALPIN WICKLOW
    2. Cara_Links
    3. Wednesday, 29 June 2005 The Bridge Tavern one of he oldest in Wicklow was the former Halpin's Hotel built in 1702 and Robert Charles, the youngest of thirteen children, born to the proprietors, James And Anne Halpin on February 10th 1836, was to grow up and become one of the favourite sons of Wicklow Township itself. Making a career on the Ocean, he became one of the most famous of the Irish sea going men, becoming commander of the "Great Eastern" from which the first Atlantic and other trans oceanic cables were laid, one of his first was, the laying of the French Telegraphic cable- The longest Submarine cable in the world. Schooled at the *Old School House* In Lietrim Place in the Early 1840's and was at sea on March 7th 1847 aged 11 years. Halpin Memorial (data from said stone-Debbie Flanagan has shared before will be found in the archives of this list ) is an Obelisk of polished granite in Fitzwilliam Square commemorates the great man himself Captain Robert C Halpin and also mentions other trans oceanic cables that were laid from Valencia to Newfoundland in 1865 and 1866. Captain Robert C Halpin Born in Wicklow in 1836 and died in 1894 at Tinakilly House 3 kilometres outside the township of Wicklow 29/06/2005 Tinakilly house was built to the Halpin's own specifications on land purchased in early 1876 for £12,000, it is today a luxurious Country Hotel. Robert Halpin with his brother supervised he purchase of the finest timber available and oversaw the completion of the house, at a cost of £40,000 a massive outlay in those times. Halpin memorabilia is today still on view at Tinakilly House, 3 miles outside of the Town of Wicklow ...... Cheers Cara

    06/29/2005 07:24:55
    1. WILLIAMS associated with Avoca Mines
    2. Joyce
    3. Cara you wrote "The Williams Family ( one I am seeking details of ) came from Cornwall and were predominant share holders at East Avoca from 1832" Where did this particular Williams family live? There are so many groups of Williams in the area, but as yet I haven't established any that were definitely connected to the Mines. My own line goes back to early 1700s as farmers. Interesting article and thanks for that. Joyce -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. Version: 7.0.323 / Virus Database: 267.8.6/33 - Release Date: 28/06/05

    06/29/2005 05:03:10
    1. NO HEADSTONE FOUND FOR THESE FOLK
    2. Cara_Links
    3. FOLEY Mary Foley wife of Peter buried August 21st 1726 Peter Foley husband of Mary Buried March 19th 1727 Buried in the beautiful old graveyard of Old Castlemacadam there place of Abode was Tigroney and their religion Protestant. Bartholomew Forde whose no was 5235 Buried 10th March 1744 same graveyard as above Ellen Moody buried 26th November 1909 aged 74 years Buried by John Moore Robinson buried Holy Trinity Castlemacadam No Headstone found Cheers Cara

    06/28/2005 01:57:59
    1. Re: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-BYRNE/FOLEY/DOYLE
    2. mark o'donnell
    3. I have an Andrew Byrne in my tree too. He was a farmer in Kiltegan when his daughter was Anne was born in 1868. She eventually moved to Dublin and married an Edgeworth. Mark

    06/28/2005 12:02:28
    1. Re: [Wicklow] WILLIAM MOODY - THOMAS MOODY
    2. Yvonne
    3. Cara, Do you have more information on William Moody, father of Thomas - mother Elizabeth Williams? Where, when etc. I would like to know more about this family. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2005 9:45 PM Subject: [Wicklow] WILLIAM MOODY - THOMAS MOODY > William Moody father of Thomas Moody mother Elizabeth Williams does this > ring any bells for you at all?? > > OR > > You can ponder on William Moody father of Thomas who married a Mary Stafford > Or > Perhaps George Moody who married Catherine Snell ..........now theres a name > I would love to know more about SNELL. > > Take a pick and let me know what you think > > Cara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Yvonne" <yvonner@optushome.com.au> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Friday, June 10, 2005 11:34 AM > Subject: [Wicklow] JOHN MOODY/ THOMAS MOODY > > > > "LANDOWNERS IN WICKLOW 1876" transcribed by Jean Rice, shows: > > > > John Moody Coolamaddra 25 acres > > > > Thomas Moody " 15 acres > > > > William Moody " 15 acres > > > > Patrick Brien " 36 acres > > > > Is anyone researching these families or does anyone have any knowledge of > > them ? > > > > Yvonne > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > Families are like fudge...mostly sweet, with a few nuts > > > > ============================== > > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Did you remind the list this month (MAY 2005) who you were looking For? > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

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