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    1. PARISH RECORDS -LISTERS ALL READ ADMIN
    2. Cara_Links
    3. These are the same people who work out of the Heritage Center previously managed by JK Go ahead Kathleen and send in a request to them after all things may have changed with a new leader perhaps the waiting is not long anymore and unless you try you will never know............but as you have been told if their is no register then they cannot have the information you need. and from here on in I would like to point out this topic referring to paid sites etc is off topic, you may discuss at anytime parish records and registers but references to paid sites etc has to stop it is not a rootsweb policy to allow paid sites to be referred to on here ......... I am happy at any time to see anything discussed but when it crosses the boundaries as laid down to me I must put a stop to it all. So feel free to discuss registers, etc but leave the paying sites and references to paying people off the list thankyou CAR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > Hi Cyril, > I'm wondering if anyone has used the Wicklow Heritage Preservation People. > I > just found them yesterday on the internet . They say they have > transcribed > all RC records from Wicklow and oganized them in searchable order. They do > lookups for a fee which is much less than that of the priest. > Kathlen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cyril Newsome" <cnews@eircom.net> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > >> Aye Kathleen! maybe, but let it go through the list first. >> >> We have people out there who will gladly do look-ups for you for free and >> maybe some who would do it for the price of a bottle of Whiskey! (Hmmm). >> >> Sometimes all this information is available on film in the local library > if >> someone has the time and cares to look. >> >> I personally don't drink and sometimes I find it hard to get out to > Wicklow >> (Bray) library to do any looking as I actually live in Wexford. >> >> slan >> Cyril Newsome >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> >> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> >> >> > Thanks ,Cara .Sometimes you have to pay if there is no other way. >> > Kathleen >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> >> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:24 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> > >> > >> > > Yes it is if you are prepared to pay he exhorbotant price the parish >> > priest >> > > has placed on them >> > > Last I heard was he has a 100 Euros on the search fee >> > > what cost a cert is another thing >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > Cara >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> >> > > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> > > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:04 AM >> > > Subject: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> > > >> > > >> > > > Could someone tell me if it is possible to get lookups of baptisms >> from >> > SS >> > > > Mary and Peter's RC Church in Arklow Co. Wicklow? >> > > > Kathleen >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > > > Have you put something down the list lately that would make >> > > > someones >> > day, >> > > > like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of information, you >> > found >> > > > but didnt need? >> > > > >> > > > ============================== >> > > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> > > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > > This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the >> > History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. >> > > >> > > ============================== >> > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> > > New content added every business day. Learn more: >> > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must >> > not >> base their whole search around it. >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, Co Wicklow > genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, Co Wicklow > genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    07/06/2005 03:59:52
    1. RE: [Wicklow] PARISH RECORDS -LISTERS ALL READ ADMIN
    2. Paul
    3. I haven't been keeping current with conversations concerning this subject and I hope not to appear argumentative, but if someone finds themselves at a dead end, wouldn't we want our fellow subscribers to know of all options. Paul -----Original Message----- From: Cara_Links [mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au] Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 20:00 To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Wicklow] PARISH RECORDS -LISTERS ALL READ ADMIN These are the same people who work out of the Heritage Center previously managed by JK Go ahead Kathleen and send in a request to them after all things may have changed with a new leader perhaps the waiting is not long anymore and unless you try you will never know............but as you have been told if their is no register then they cannot have the information you need. and from here on in I would like to point out this topic referring to paid sites etc is off topic, you may discuss at anytime parish records and registers but references to paid sites etc has to stop it is not a rootsweb policy to allow paid sites to be referred to on here ......... I am happy at any time to see anything discussed but when it crosses the boundaries as laid down to me I must put a stop to it all. So feel free to discuss registers, etc but leave the paying sites and references to paying people off the list thankyou CAR ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, July 06, 2005 6:22 AM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > Hi Cyril, > I'm wondering if anyone has used the Wicklow Heritage Preservation People. > I > just found them yesterday on the internet . They say they have > transcribed > all RC records from Wicklow and oganized them in searchable order. They do > lookups for a fee which is much less than that of the priest. > Kathlen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cyril Newsome" <cnews@eircom.net> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:37 AM > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > >> Aye Kathleen! maybe, but let it go through the list first. >> >> We have people out there who will gladly do look-ups for you for free and >> maybe some who would do it for the price of a bottle of Whiskey! (Hmmm). >> >> Sometimes all this information is available on film in the local library > if >> someone has the time and cares to look. >> >> I personally don't drink and sometimes I find it hard to get out to > Wicklow >> (Bray) library to do any looking as I actually live in Wexford. >> >> slan >> Cyril Newsome >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> >> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> >> >> > Thanks ,Cara .Sometimes you have to pay if there is no other way. >> > Kathleen >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> >> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:24 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> > >> > >> > > Yes it is if you are prepared to pay he exhorbotant price the parish >> > priest >> > > has placed on them >> > > Last I heard was he has a 100 Euros on the search fee >> > > what cost a cert is another thing >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > Cara >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> >> > > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> > > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:04 AM >> > > Subject: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> > > >> > > >> > > > Could someone tell me if it is possible to get lookups of baptisms >> from >> > SS >> > > > Mary and Peter's RC Church in Arklow Co. Wicklow? >> > > > Kathleen >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > > > Have you put something down the list lately that would make >> > > > someones >> > day, >> > > > like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of information, you >> > found >> > > > but didnt need? >> > > > >> > > > ============================== >> > > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for >> > > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > > This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the >> > History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. >> > > >> > > ============================== >> > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> > > New content added every business day. Learn more: >> > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must >> > not >> base their whole search around it. >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, Co Wicklow > genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, Co Wicklow > genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== Did you remind the list this month (MAY 2005) who you were looking For? ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    07/05/2005 03:55:45
    1. Re: [Wicklow] Re: ROLL CALL WALL, CAREY
    2. Cara_Links
    3. Baltinglass WALL births Henry Wall born 22/3/1868 to a James Wall and Esther Hennan ( maybe Hannan) ---------------------- Andrew Wall and Mary Higgins -Baltinglass had Margaret-10/9/1871 John-24th Oct 1873 ------------------------- Cheers Cara From: "Pat" <scousegurl@cox.net> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 5:27 AM Subject: [Wicklow] Re: ROLL CALL WALL, CAREY > WALL- > James born 1861 > William born 1865 > Peter born 1875 > John born ? > Henry born ? > William born ? > These brothers were born in Baltinglass, Co.Wicklow. I would like any info > on them and/or their parents. > James married Mary CAREY. The 1901 UK census has her birthplace listed as > Queen's Co. > I believe the WALL's were catholic. > Cheers > Pat > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Never feel you shouldnt ask about your ancestors~ for if the first ask > doesnt receive a reply then ask and ask again, for your family ancestors > in Co Wicklow. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

    07/05/2005 02:42:21
    1. RE: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records
    2. Margaret Enright
    3. Hi Kathleen Would you be so kind as to send me the web site for Wicklow Heritage Preservation people. Thanks Kathleen Margaret Anne (O'Donoghue) Enright menright2@cogeco.ca Burlington, Ontario Canada >-----Original Message----- >From: Kathleen & Ross Crain [mailto:rosscrain@shaw.ca] >Sent: July 5, 2005 4:22 PM >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > >Hi Cyril, >I'm wondering if anyone has used the Wicklow Heritage >Preservation People. I just found them yesterday on the >internet . They say they have transcribed all RC records from >Wicklow and oganized them in searchable order. They do >lookups for a fee which is much less than that of the priest. >Kathlen >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Cyril Newsome" <cnews@eircom.net> >To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:37 AM >Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > >> Aye Kathleen! maybe, but let it go through the list first. >> >> We have people out there who will gladly do look-ups for >you for free and >> maybe some who would do it for the price of a bottle of >Whiskey! (Hmmm). >> >> Sometimes all this information is available on film in the >local library >if >> someone has the time and cares to look. >> >> I personally don't drink and sometimes I find it hard to get out to >Wicklow >> (Bray) library to do any looking as I actually live in Wexford. >> >> slan >> Cyril Newsome >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> >> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:26 PM >> Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> >> >> > Thanks ,Cara .Sometimes you have to pay if there is no other way. >> > Kathleen >> > ----- Original Message ----- >> > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> >> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:24 PM >> > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> > >> > >> > > Yes it is if you are prepared to pay he exhorbotant >price the parish >> > priest >> > > has placed on them >> > > Last I heard was he has a 100 Euros on the search fee >> > > what cost a cert is another thing >> > > >> > > Cheers >> > > Cara >> > > ----- Original Message ----- >> > > From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> >> > > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> > > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:04 AM >> > > Subject: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records >> > > >> > > >> > > > Could someone tell me if it is possible to get >lookups of baptisms >> from >> > SS >> > > > Mary and Peter's RC Church in Arklow Co. Wicklow? >> > > > Kathleen >> > > > >> > > > >> > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > > > Have you put something down the list lately that >would make someones >> > day, >> > > > like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of >information, you >> > found >> > > > but didnt need? >> > > > >> > > > ============================== >> > > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search >not only for >> > > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: >> > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx >> > > > >> > > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > >> > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > > This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family >research and the >> > History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. >> > > >> > > ============================== >> > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> > > New content added every business day. Learn more: >> > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, >but one must not >> base their whole search around it. >> > >> > ============================== >> > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. >> > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx >> > >> > >> > >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, >Co Wicklow >genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. >> >> ============================== >> Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >> New content added every business day. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >> >> > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, >Co Wicklow genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn >more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    07/05/2005 02:35:02
    1. EARL births Kilbride
    2. Brian & Anona
    3. Hello Listers, I recently had passed on to me an EARL family and their birthdates in KILBRIDE. I have not yet proven they belong to "my" Thomas Rufus but I'm trying hard! If any of them mean anything to you please contact me. Anona EARL Thomas md to MARY ? c1840,ran a small farm just down the road from the old cemetery at Kilbride, on the edge of Shelton Abbey MARY bn 1819 died in England (Liverpool)? 1894 THOMAS died Wicklow c1873. When the tenancy of the farm changed the family moved to Liverpool. CHILDREN ELIZABETH JANE bn Sep18 1841 Ballincore KILBRIDE WILLIAM May 11 1843 " " JOHN MURRAY Sep 14 1845 " " THOMAS JUL 18 1847 Shelton Kilbride JOHN JUN 12 1853 " " MARY JUN 12 1853 " " RICHARD JOHN AUG 30 1857 " " HENRY DANIEL AUG 5 1859 " " FRANCIS JOHN JULY 29 1860 " " William,Francis, Richard, Harry all went to America date unknown.

    07/05/2005 10:20:06
    1. RE: [Wicklow] ROLL CALL: Eager / Finlay Family Ballinabarney and Ballinafoyle
    2. Susan Marshall
    3. Chris, Just recently I have received further information on this family, but unfortunatly no marriage date. Thomas Eager, Ballinafoyle b. 1809 m. Alice Boyne, Ballinaguile Children: Catherine (Kitty) Eager b. ? d. 1929 Dublin m. 1885 Alexander Eager James Eager b. Abt 1839 d. March 1912, buried St. Peter's Kiltegan m1. Possibly Jane Chamney 1869 m2. Mary Anne Jackson 1873, St. Peters Kiltegan. Jane Eager m. John Walsh, 1864, St. Peter's Kiltegan. Hope this is of some help! Susan

    07/05/2005 08:18:37
    1. Re: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-Mary Ann and Peter John HOGAN - ARKLOW
    2. Kathleen & Ross Crain
    3. Thank you very much for the information. I'm printing it out in hopes I can match it up in the future. It was very good of you to go to this trouble for me and my Hogan/Hagans. Kathleen ----- Original Message ----- From: <WeadickResearch@aol.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 12:54 AM Subject: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-Mary Ann and Peter John HOGAN - ARKLOW > Ahh, Kathleen > > Now we're getting somewhere. > Unfortunately, the Arklow (S.S. Mary and Peter's Church) records start in > 1818, except for a couple from 1809. > There were only two Hogan couples having babies back then: > > Laurence and Mary (Carroll) Hogan: They probably married before 1818, since > I have no Marriage Record for them. Their recorded children were: > Anastasia Baptized 29 January, 1820, sponsors: Thomas and Jane Norton, > Residence: Charter School, in Arklow. > Laurence Baptized 11 July, 1822, sponsors: James Nolan and Catherine > Tyrrell, Residence: Charter School, in Arklow > Ellen Baptized 12 October 1826, sponsors: John Coleman and Judith Kingsmile, > Residence: Charter School, in Arklow. > > Denis and Catherine (Scully) Hogan also probably married before the > commencement of Church records in 1818. The only child recorded for this couple was: > James, Baptized 20 June, 1819, sponsors: Denis Manus and Mary Farrell, > residence: Arklow. > > I find no Mary or Peter. > > Are you sure it was Hogan and not Hagan? As my mother would say, "Hagan is > an Arklow name", and I have hundreds of Hagans, over a 70 year span. Of > course, I may have transcribed the name wrong, assuming they were Hagans because > it IS an Arklow name, and my eyes are not as young as my brain thinks they > are. > > So there you have the only recorded Hogans Baptized in S.S. Mary and Peter's > Church in Arklow, for the time period you've given. > > Also, in the very early records, no second names are recorded. > > So...I have a Mary HAgan daughter of James and Mary Doyle Hagan, Baptized 8 > December, 1821, sponsor: Elizabeth Byrne, residence: Arklow > She's the only Mary for that time period. > > I have two Peter HAgans, but they were Baptized in 1820. One Peter was born > to Patrick and Margaret Clancy Hagan, sponsors: Peter Hagan and Margaret > Brien, residence Kilahurler. > The other Peter was borne to Peter and Mary Sunderland Hagan, sponsors: > Mathew Byrne and Mary Dermott, residence: Ballinasillogue. > > Hope this helps you, > Peggy > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    07/05/2005 07:29:07
    1. Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records
    2. Kathleen & Ross Crain
    3. Hi Cyril, I'm wondering if anyone has used the Wicklow Heritage Preservation People. I just found them yesterday on the internet . They say they have transcribed all RC records from Wicklow and oganized them in searchable order. They do lookups for a fee which is much less than that of the priest. Kathlen ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cyril Newsome" <cnews@eircom.net> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 1:37 AM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > Aye Kathleen! maybe, but let it go through the list first. > > We have people out there who will gladly do look-ups for you for free and > maybe some who would do it for the price of a bottle of Whiskey! (Hmmm). > > Sometimes all this information is available on film in the local library if > someone has the time and cares to look. > > I personally don't drink and sometimes I find it hard to get out to Wicklow > (Bray) library to do any looking as I actually live in Wexford. > > slan > Cyril Newsome > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:26 PM > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > > > Thanks ,Cara .Sometimes you have to pay if there is no other way. > > Kathleen > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> > > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:24 PM > > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > > > > > > Yes it is if you are prepared to pay he exhorbotant price the parish > > priest > > > has placed on them > > > Last I heard was he has a 100 Euros on the search fee > > > what cost a cert is another thing > > > > > > Cheers > > > Cara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> > > > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > > > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:04 AM > > > Subject: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > > > > > > > > > Could someone tell me if it is possible to get lookups of baptisms > from > > SS > > > > Mary and Peter's RC Church in Arklow Co. Wicklow? > > > > Kathleen > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > > > Have you put something down the list lately that would make someones > > day, > > > > like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of information, you > > found > > > > but didnt need? > > > > > > > > ============================== > > > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > > This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the > > History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. > > > > > > ============================== > > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not > base their whole search around it. > > > > ============================== > > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, Co Wicklow genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

    07/05/2005 07:22:17
    1. PARISH RECORDS
    2. Cara_Links
    3. I am sorry but I do not believe in this harrassment or as it has been put bombardment of someone at an email address, glory be I know what its like to open my own email mailing box and be inundated with complaints, suggestions that I need these certain type of pills, or maybe a download of a programme, and find that someone is sharing there complaint with me, and I am happy to assist where I can with anything to do with family research ---so imagine these peoples thoughts if they open their mail boxes to all these mails complaining about the cost of research through the parish register. I would simply re-set my settings and have them disappear in the rubbish bin, a more organised way would be to have a body of well mannered people approach the necessary people and hand them everyones complaint verbally and in a nicely written letter, that way you have covered both bases and you are not simply finding your words dissapearing into cyber space and clogging the universe or blocking out my moon. Now whilst I do not believe the priest of any religion has the right to place upon it a search fee, beyond anyones purse strings, and I believe that along the way, the parish priest was paid to record these BDM, and hold them in a register for posterity, and they should be given freely, but along the way, someone has ruffled the feathers of these men, and the Arklow man is not the only one with his back up. There through out Ireland are many, indeed I am seeing once again the necessity to contact several relevant parties to get once again permission to even look at a couple of the reels at the National Library in Dublin.Something has caused this, and indeed I feel it may well be the over burdening of someones patience. And I do agree also, that most of you seeking a lookup from any of these parish registers, are not firstly seeking what is available in the public domain, be it all too far from you to research yourself, but as Paul has pointed out there are other options open to each and everyone of us to use.( even if Paul has taken leave from his researching for the time being) he has pointed you to some options for reseachers. I do not know what LDS has filmed and that should be an option for those of you to source out should you live outside Ireland, and order in the said film, you must remember what you see with your own eyes, and record is far more reliable that what someone else saw and recorded, plus the fact that the certificate you receive today is just a piece of paper written out by someone else who sited the person then had someone else sign it ( the parish priest rarely does the search) and neither do you, you are a lucky person that gets a parish man to sit with you and allow you to go through his registers. Also you need to take aboard the fact that not all books are housed with the parish priest a lot of burial books for Wicklow are floating in different houses, as those people are the caretakers of these books and graveyards.And those people themselves are busy people and should anyone desire to look at those said books also need to make an appointment to see them. One of the most important things you must take to mind is that most parish priests or clergymen of any faith are a working man, working 24/7 52 weeks of the year, so therefore, you need to make sure you have accessed all that is available within the public domain first, before you then contact the parish priest, but in Arklow's case there is an office, where he has people doing look ups, but then again can you be sure that they have sourced the people correctly that you need, I harp back to a perfect example of paid research within my own search, for one TOOLE child, and find that TWO were born in the same year, thats fine they gave me my man with the wrong parents, and when queried I received a shrug of the shoulders and told *that happens *, the annoying thing is I know they are wrong, and the mere fact that two boys same name born in same year should have been taken off and both should have been offered in this instance as the search was paid for, and a fee for both would have been paid, I went back to the public acess of reels at the National Library and noted the births myself, saved me giving this woman a few words she would not have understood. But anyway those of you that see this as a lecture, feel free to take it aboard as such, becuase in a way it is, you should always acess what you can in the public domain then as a last resort hopefully find an office that is attached to these parishes and access them through the office staff. Also bear in mind that in the summer months of the year, every man woman and child, who had an ancestor born, married or died in Ireland is busy chasing their ancestors, they do not belong to this list so they have not learnt what has been readily, told to you good folk here, so they are busy, running around trying to access the poor busy clergyman, and the clergyman is busy trying to get on with what is his busy time of the year. The one valuable thing that I have learnt in my Irish research, be it home here, in Ireland is to exercise patience, and when that is failing take a deep breath and go do the gardening. Cheers for now CARA

    07/05/2005 07:04:05
    1. Re: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-POPE??
    2. P&JP. Collins
    3. Morning all, as a cradle Catholic I was very interested in people's comments I wonder if people have heard the following [ which was told by a Catholic to a group of Catholics] The next Pope will be accompanied by his wife at his coronation The Pope after that will be accompanied by her husband!!! Big Grins] hope you all have a good time regards Peter Collins Cheltenham UK ----- Original Message ----- From: <WeadickResearch@aol.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, July 05, 2005 7:51 AM Subject: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-POPE?? > > That's true Peggy but neither of you could ever be > Pope......................(only joking, sorry) > > (Snicker)....Daz....and why not??? :o) > > Something to think about, though > Peggy > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, Co Wicklow genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

    07/05/2005 05:07:57
    1. Roll call: FOX
    2. William Fox
    3. Still seeking information on my FOX ancestry; specifically my gggrandfather whose given name is either WILLIAM or ARTHUR (or some combination of these) FOX. 1800-1850 WILLIAM FOX, is listed in 1869 civil marriage certificate as father of ROBERT FOX (1839-1904) my ggfather; however, ROBERT's first son was named ARTHUR and subsequent children were named in the traditional order. The fourth son, my grandfather is WILLIAM FRANCIS FOX, Uncertain as to religion; his son ROBERT was married in the RC chapel of Bray Rathmichael2 and is buried in a RC cemetery in Philadelphia, PA. USA and many of ROBERT's children were baptized at St. Patrick's RC church in Wicklow City. There are FOX records or gravestones in both Roman Catholic and Church of Ireland parishes in Kilpoole, Dunganstown, Kilquade and Wicklow City. WILLIAM'S occupation listed on the cited marriage certificate is "steward". There is no mention of WILLIAM's area of residence but his son ROBERT's place of residence is listed as Ballinapark. There are 2 townlands named Ballinapark: one in Castlemacadam civil parish, near Avoca, and the other in Rathnew civil parish an area just to the north of Wicklow City. There is no evidence that WILLIAM emigrated. Although there is absolutely no evidence, Family lore is that WILLIAM FOX was in some way connected to Avondale residence of Parnell family, perhaps a steward. Parnell used the named MR. Fox, reportedly the name of his steward, in his trysts with Kitty.

    07/05/2005 04:53:01
    1. RE: [Wicklow] ROLL CALL: Eager / Finlay Family Ballinabarney and Ballinafoyle
    2. Dear Susan, I'm collecting Wicklow Boyne's. Do you know anything further about Alice Boyne, as in <Thomas Eager b. 1809 m1. Ellen ? m2. Alice Boyne Ballinaguile>. A date of marriage would help. Best Wishes, Chris Boyne -----Original Message----- From: IRL-WICKLOW-L-request@rootsweb.com [mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L-request@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Susan Marshall Sent: 04 July 2005 11:50 To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Wicklow] ROLL CALL: Eager / Finlay Family Ballinabarney and Ballinafoyle William Eager m. Katherine Finlay abt 1803. Church of Ireland William fought at the Battle of Hacketstown. After he was married he bought a farm in Ballinafoyle. Before he was married in lived in Kilcarney. Who were his parents? When was he born? When did he die? Katherine Finlay was born in the late 1780's most probably to Thomas Finlay and Ann Smith of Ballinabarney. Thomas was killed after the Battle of Hacketstown in 1798. One of his known children was Germaine/German Finlay. Katherine Finlay introduced this name into the Eager family where it is still used today. Does anybody know the exact date of Katherine's birth, and her death, which was some time abt 1820. Children: Joseph Eager b.1809 m Catherine Freeman. Lived Ballinafoyle Thomas Eager b. 1809 m1. Ellen ? m2. Alice Boyne Ballinaguile Peter Eager b. 1811 Presume he died young Germain Eager b. 1813 m. Ellen Lawrence of Moyne PArish. Lived Ballinafoyle Catherine Eager b. 1816 m. Henry Heaney Ballinacone Mary Jane Eager b. Abt 1819 m. Henry Hinch Knocknaree - one child emigrated to Australia. Anne Eager m. Henry Lawrence Slieveroe Moyne After Katherine died, William married Peggy Wallace of Clonmore, and had two children William and Sally, presumably born in the 1820/30's. Sally married Mr Dowling and went to live in Dublin. William was given a third of his father's farm, but lost it through a disagreement and moved away from the area - Does anybody know anything about these two children? Any information received would be most appreciated, and hopefully my info will be of use to someone else Thanks Susan ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== Shame on you how long ---is it since you posted your names to the list? Or updated what you have found, told the list of your successe, your brick walls. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    07/05/2005 04:14:07
    1. Re: [Wicklow] PARISH RECORDS-CARA's words of wisdom
    2. CARA, Well stated prose! In essence, the parish priest is now a modern day man who has found his niche. Some of the Irish priests really should change their clothes and go to WALL STREET, where they apparently belong. Bill -----Original Message----- From: Cara_Links <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Sent: Tue, 5 Jul 2005 13:04:05 +1000 Subject: [Wicklow] PARISH RECORDS I am sorry but I do not believe in this harrassment or as it has been put bombardment of someone at an email address, glory be I know what its like to open my own email mailing box and be inundated with complaints, suggestions that I need these certain type of pills, or maybe a download of a programme, and find that someone is sharing there complaint with me, and I am happy to assist where I can with anything to do with family research ---so imagine these peoples thoughts if they open their mail boxes to all these mails complaining about the cost of research through the parish register. I would simply re-set my settings and have them disappear in the rubbish bin, a more organised way would be to have a body of well mannered people approach the necessary people and hand them everyones complaint verbally and in a nicely written letter, that way you have covered both bases and you are not simply finding your words dissapearing into cyber space and clogging the universe or blocking out my moon. Now whilst I do not believe the priest of any religion has the right to place upon it a search fee, beyond anyones purse strings, and I believe that along the way, the parish priest was paid to record these BDM, and hold them in a register for posterity, and they should be given freely, but along the way, someone has ruffled the feathers of these men, and the Arklow man is not the only one with his back up. There through out Ireland are many, indeed I am seeing once again the necessity to contact several relevant parties to get once again permission to even look at a couple of the reels at the National Library in Dublin.Something has caused this, and indeed I feel it may well be the over burdening of someones patience. And I do agree also, that most of you seeking a lookup from any of these parish registers, are not firstly seeking what is available in the public domain, be it all too far from you to research yourself, but as Paul has pointed out there are other options open to each and everyone of us to use.( even if Paul has taken leave from his researching for the time being) he has pointed you to some options for reseachers. I do not know what LDS has filmed and that should be an option for those of you to source out should you live outside Ireland, and order in the said film, you must remember what you see with your own eyes, and record is far more reliable that what someone else saw and recorded, plus the fact that the certificate you receive today is just a piece of paper written out by someone else who sited the person then had someone else sign it ( the parish priest rarely does the search) and neither do you, you are a lucky person that gets a parish man to sit with you and allow you to go through his registers. Also you need to take aboard the fact that not all books are housed with the parish priest a lot of burial books for Wicklow are floating in different houses, as those people are the caretakers of these books and graveyards.And those people themselves are busy people and should anyone desire to look at those said books also need to make an appointment to see them. One of the most important things you must take to mind is that most parish priests or clergymen of any faith are a working man, working 24/7 52 weeks of the year, so therefore, you need to make sure you have accessed all that is available within the public domain first, before you then contact the parish priest, but in Arklow's case there is an office, where he has people doing look ups, but then again can you be sure that they have sourced the people correctly that you need, I harp back to a perfect example of paid research within my own search, for one TOOLE child, and find that TWO were born in the same year, thats fine they gave me my man with the wrong parents, and when queried I received a shrug of the shoulders and told *that happens *, the annoying thing is I know they are wrong, and the mere fact that two boys same name born in same year should have been taken off and both should have been offered in this instance as the search was paid for, and a fee for both would have been paid, I went back to the public acess of reels at the National Library and noted the births myself, saved me giving this woman a few words she would not have understood. But anyway those of you that see this as a lecture, feel free to take it aboard as such, becuase in a way it is, you should always acess what you can in the public domain then as a last resort hopefully find an office that is attached to these parishes and access them through the office staff. Also bear in mind that in the summer months of the year, every man woman and child, who had an ancestor born, married or died in Ireland is busy chasing their ancestors, they do not belong to this list so they have not learnt what has been readily, told to you good folk here, so they are busy, running around trying to access the poor busy clergyman, and the clergyman is busy trying to get on with what is his busy time of the year. The one valuable thing that I have learnt in my Irish research, be it home here, in Ireland is to exercise patience, and when that is failing take a deep breath and go do the gardening. Cheers for now CARA ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== Have you put something down the list lately that would make someones day, like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of information, you found but didnt need? ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

    07/05/2005 03:49:41
    1. Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records
    2. Cyril Newsome
    3. Aye Kathleen! maybe, but let it go through the list first. We have people out there who will gladly do look-ups for you for free and maybe some who would do it for the price of a bottle of Whiskey! (Hmmm). Sometimes all this information is available on film in the local library if someone has the time and cares to look. I personally don't drink and sometimes I find it hard to get out to Wicklow (Bray) library to do any looking as I actually live in Wexford. slan Cyril Newsome ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > Thanks ,Cara .Sometimes you have to pay if there is no other way. > Kathleen > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2005 10:24 PM > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > > > Yes it is if you are prepared to pay he exhorbotant price the parish > priest > > has placed on them > > Last I heard was he has a 100 Euros on the search fee > > what cost a cert is another thing > > > > Cheers > > Cara > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> > > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:04 AM > > Subject: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > > > > > > Could someone tell me if it is possible to get lookups of baptisms from > SS > > > Mary and Peter's RC Church in Arklow Co. Wicklow? > > > Kathleen > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > > Have you put something down the list lately that would make someones > day, > > > like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of information, you > found > > > but didnt need? > > > > > > ============================== > > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the > History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. > > > > ============================== > > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > > New content added every business day. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not base their whole search around it. > > ============================== > Census images 1901, 1891, 1881 and 1871, plus so much more. > Ancestry.com's United Kingdom & Ireland Collection. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13968/rd.ashx > > >

    07/05/2005 03:37:10
    1. Re: IRL-WICKLOW-Arklow parish records - the alternative
    2. Hi Paul, Of course you're right. I have met the Parish Priest from the Arklow Church, many times, while visiting Arklow . I will refrain from giving a personal opinion of him, since it's just that - my opinion. He actually gave me the Parish Registers for an evening to search for my ancestors. However, the Registers only have a surname, the given name and a year, with a volume and page number which corresponds. No actual dates, parents or sponsors. To get that info, I did leave an unsolicited 100 pound donation on the desk. That was long before Euros! I should mention, too, that I've never actually met the man IN the Parochial Office. I've always dealt with his Office Staff. I have photo copies of all the registers, right up to the 1950s, copied with the full knowledge and (albeit reluctant) permission of the Parochial Office staff. (My brother had to leave his passport in the office while he copied them.) However, the records I post are actually transcribed (over more than 15 yrs.) from the microfilms housed in the National Library in Dublin, as you mentioned in your post. I pass them on freely, because I'm not a professional genealogist. They are only leads to be followed. I believe in my heart that everyone who wants to know who their people were, should know, without having to travel, or pay what could be, for them, a small fortune. Not trying to steal anyone's thunder, Peggy Leonard/NY

    07/04/2005 09:54:16
    1. Re: IRL-WICKLOW-Mary Ann and Peter John HOGAN - ARKLOW
    2. Ahh, Kathleen Now we're getting somewhere. Unfortunately, the Arklow (S.S. Mary and Peter's Church) records start in 1818, except for a couple from 1809. There were only two Hogan couples having babies back then: Laurence and Mary (Carroll) Hogan: They probably married before 1818, since I have no Marriage Record for them. Their recorded children were: Anastasia Baptized 29 January, 1820, sponsors: Thomas and Jane Norton, Residence: Charter School, in Arklow. Laurence Baptized 11 July, 1822, sponsors: James Nolan and Catherine Tyrrell, Residence: Charter School, in Arklow Ellen Baptized 12 October 1826, sponsors: John Coleman and Judith Kingsmile, Residence: Charter School, in Arklow. Denis and Catherine (Scully) Hogan also probably married before the commencement of Church records in 1818. The only child recorded for this couple was: James, Baptized 20 June, 1819, sponsors: Denis Manus and Mary Farrell, residence: Arklow. I find no Mary or Peter. Are you sure it was Hogan and not Hagan? As my mother would say, "Hagan is an Arklow name", and I have hundreds of Hagans, over a 70 year span. Of course, I may have transcribed the name wrong, assuming they were Hagans because it IS an Arklow name, and my eyes are not as young as my brain thinks they are. So there you have the only recorded Hogans Baptized in S.S. Mary and Peter's Church in Arklow, for the time period you've given. Also, in the very early records, no second names are recorded. So...I have a Mary HAgan daughter of James and Mary Doyle Hagan, Baptized 8 December, 1821, sponsor: Elizabeth Byrne, residence: Arklow She's the only Mary for that time period. I have two Peter HAgans, but they were Baptized in 1820. One Peter was born to Patrick and Margaret Clancy Hagan, sponsors: Peter Hagan and Margaret Brien, residence Kilahurler. The other Peter was borne to Peter and Mary Sunderland Hagan, sponsors: Mathew Byrne and Mary Dermott, residence: Ballinasillogue. Hope this helps you, Peggy

    07/04/2005 09:54:14
    1. Re: IRL-WICKLOW-POPE??
    2. That's true Peggy but neither of you could ever be Pope......................(only joking, sorry) (Snicker)....Daz....and why not??? :o) Something to think about, though Peggy

    07/04/2005 08:51:25
    1. Arklow parish records - the alternative
    2. Paul Gorry
    3. People seem to be overlooking the fact that the Arklow R.C. parish registers are on microfilm at the National Library in Dublin and that they are freely available for consultation there. If you can't get there physically your option is to engage the services of a professional researcher. I recommend that you engage a member of the Association of Professional Genealogists in Ireland (but not me!) www.apgi.ie because membership involves accreditation and there is a complaints investigation procedure should you be unhappy with the research. Of course, you would be paying a fee (calculated on an hourly basis) but then you're getting a professional service, not asking someone unfamiliar with parish registers and genealogical research to dip into the register for you. I have to add that I have never had occasion to contact the P.P. of Arklow so I cannot comment on his general humour. But, if his unwillingness to co-operate with family history enquirers was in some way fuelled by his trust being abused by someone who secretly photocopied the registers while being given access to them, he has my sympathy. Paul Gorry ----- Original Message ----- From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 11:26 PM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > Thanks ,Cara .Sometimes you have to pay if there is no other way. > Kathleen

    07/04/2005 07:03:38
    1. RE: [Wicklow] PARISH RECORDS
    2. Margaret Enright
    3. Thanks Cara for the attached information. Margaret from Burlington,Ontario Canada >-----Original Message----- >From: Cara_Links [mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au] >Sent: July 4, 2005 11:04 PM >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Wicklow] PARISH RECORDS > >I am sorry but I do not believe in this harrassment or as it >has been put bombardment of someone at an email address, >glory be I know what its like to open my own email mailing >box and be inundated with complaints, suggestions that I need >these certain type of pills, or maybe a download of a >programme, and find that someone is sharing there complaint >with me, and I am happy to assist where I can with anything >to do with family research ---so imagine these peoples >thoughts if they open their mail boxes to all these mails >complaining about the cost of research through the parish register. >I would simply re-set my settings and have them disappear in >the rubbish bin, a more organised way would be to have a body >of well mannered people approach the necessary people and >hand them everyones complaint verbally and in a nicely >written letter, that way you have covered both bases and you >are not simply finding your words dissapearing into cyber >space and clogging the universe or blocking out my moon. > >Now whilst I do not believe the priest of any religion has >the right to place upon it a search fee, beyond anyones purse >strings, and I believe that along the way, the parish priest >was paid to record these BDM, and hold them in a register >for posterity, and they should be given freely, but along the >way, someone has ruffled the feathers of these men, and the >Arklow man is not the only one with his back up. >There through out Ireland are many, indeed I am seeing once >again the necessity to contact several relevant parties to >get once again permission to even look at a couple of the >reels at the National Library in Dublin.Something has caused >this, and indeed I feel it may well be the over burdening of >someones patience. >And I do agree also, that most of you seeking a lookup from >any of these parish registers, are not firstly seeking what >is available in the public domain, be it all too far from you >to research yourself, but as Paul has pointed out there are >other options open to each and everyone of us to use.( even >if Paul has taken leave from his researching for the time >being) he has pointed you to some options for reseachers. > >I do not know what LDS has filmed and that should be an >option for those >of you to source out should you live outside Ireland, and >order in the said film, you must remember what you see with >your own eyes, and record is far more reliable that what >someone else saw and recorded, plus the fact that the >certificate you receive today is just a piece of paper >written out by someone else who sited the person then had >someone else sign it ( the parish priest rarely does the >search) and neither do you, you are a lucky person that gets >a parish man to sit with you and allow you to go through his >registers. >Also you need to take aboard the fact that not all books are >housed with the parish priest a lot of burial books for >Wicklow are floating in different houses, as those people are >the caretakers of these books and graveyards.And those people >themselves are busy people and should anyone desire to look >at those said books also need to make an appointment to see them. > >One of the most important things you must take to mind is >that most parish priests or clergymen of any faith are a >working man, working 24/7 52 weeks of the year, so therefore, >you need to make sure you have accessed all that is available >within the public domain first, before you then contact the >parish priest, but in Arklow's case there is an office, where >he has people doing look ups, but then again can you be sure >that they have sourced the people correctly that you need, I >harp back to a perfect example of paid research within my own >search, for one TOOLE child, and find that TWO were born in >the same year, thats fine they gave me my man with the wrong >parents, and when queried I received a shrug of the shoulders >and told *that happens *, the annoying thing is I know they >are wrong, and the mere fact that two boys same name born in >same year should have been taken off and both should have >been offered in this instance as the search was paid for, and >a fee for both would have been paid, I went back to the >public acess of reels at the National Library and noted the >births myself, saved me giving this woman a few words she >would not have understood. >But anyway those of you that see this as a lecture, feel free >to take it aboard as such, becuase in a way it is, you should >always acess what you can in the public domain then as a last >resort hopefully find an office that is attached to these >parishes and access them through the office staff. >Also bear in mind that in the summer months of the year, >every man woman and child, who had an ancestor born, married >or died in Ireland is busy chasing their ancestors, they do >not belong to this list so they have not learnt what has been >readily, told to you good folk here, so they are busy, >running around trying to access the poor busy clergyman, and >the clergyman is busy trying to get on with what is his busy >time of the year. >The one valuable thing that I have learnt in my Irish >research, be it home here, in Ireland is to exercise >patience, and when that is failing take a deep breath and go >do the gardening. > >Cheers for now >CARA > > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >Have you put something down the list lately that would make >someones day, like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip >of information, you found but didnt need? > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records >added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the >world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > >

    07/04/2005 05:39:37
    1. Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records
    2. Cyril Newsome
    3. Well Cara and fellow listers, One could always bombard the Parish Office in Arklow with letters of complaint! send them to: parking5@eircom.net I'm sure if Bob Geldolf can get away with it that we as a body can! slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:24 AM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > Yes it is if you are prepared to pay he exhorbotant price the parish priest > has placed on them > Last I heard was he has a 100 Euros on the search fee > what cost a cert is another thing > > Cheers > Cara > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Kathleen & Ross Crain" <rosscrain@shaw.ca> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, July 04, 2005 6:04 AM > Subject: [Wicklow] lookups from parish records > > > > Could someone tell me if it is possible to get lookups of baptisms from SS > > Mary and Peter's RC Church in Arklow Co. Wicklow? > > Kathleen > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > Have you put something down the list lately that would make someones day, > > like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of information, you found > > but didnt need? > > > > ============================== > > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search not only for > > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > > >

    07/04/2005 03:25:00