To Debby and Stephanie, Thanks for your prompt help with my Condell queries. It really was wonderful to hear from you. It made my day! Stephanie, where did the Wheatley marriage take place? Do you know the church and parish and town land and/or barony? If so, will you please let me know. Joyce Park. >Date: Mon, 01 Aug 2005 19:02:42 +0000 >From: "Joyce Park" <joyceap@hotmail.com> >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY108-F284FC918B100A58F3FAD62A4C30@phx.gbl> >Subject: CONDELL (CONDLE, CUNDLE) IN GRIFFITHS FOR COUNTY WICKLOW and >COUNTY WEXFORD >Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed > >Hi there, >I'm interested in WILLIAM and JAMES CONDELL, living in County Wicklow >and/or >County Wexford from about 1800-1880. Variant spellings are CONDLE, or >CUNDLE. >I've been told that the Griffiths Valuations shows 5 CONDELL entries for >County Wicklow and 1 CUNDLE for County Wexford. Can any lister with the >appropriate Indexes tell me which Baronies they were in and whether these >people were in the Tithe Applotment Books? I'm housebound at present and >can't get to any libraries. A few years ago I did the GV and TAB research >for County Carlow and found CONDELLS there and followed up the Church of >Ireland records, etc, without much success, but I've just woken up to the >fact that I should also have done Wicklow and Wexford Counties. Any help >would be much appreciated by this octagenarian. >I really enjoy rhe list and want to thank the people (they know who they >are) who share so much information with us, Joyce in Toronto, Canada. >-Message: #3 >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 12:26:24 +1000 >From: "Debby Raymond" <debbyraymond@hotmail.com> >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV469FA9599B21DF9009E9ED5C20@phx.gbl> >Subject: Re: [Wicklow] CONDELL (CONDLE, CUNDLE) IN GRIFFITHS FOR COUNTY >WICKLOW and COUNTY WEXFORD >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Condell, Condle from Griffith’s Valuations in Wicklow: > > > >Talbotstown Upper, G2 T. > >Condell G, T in Baltinglass parish, Talbotstown Upper barony, >Baltinglass Union, Co. Wicklow 20. GV 1854. Tithe Applotments 1837. >(Remainder of parish in Co. Carlow.) > > > >Condell G, in Rathbran parish, Talbotstown Upper barony, Baltinglass >Union, Co. Wicklow 14. GV 1854. Tithe Applotments book not available. > > > >Ballinacor North, G. > >Condell G, in Rathdrum parish, Ballinacor North barony, Rathdrum >Union, Co. Wicklow 25. GV 1852, Tithe Applotments 1825. > > > >Ballinacor South, T. > >Condell T, in Hacketstown parish, (part of) Ballinacor South barony, >Shillelagh Union, Co. Wicklow 35. GV 1853, Tithe Applotments 1823. >(Remainder of parish on Co. Carlow.) > > > >Ballinacor South G2, T. > >Condle G2, T. in Moyne parish, Ballinacor South barony, Shillelagh >Union, Co. Wicklow 36. GV 1853, Tithe Applotments 1824. > > > >Shillelagh barony. > >Condell G3, T. in Carnew parish (part of) Shillelagh barony, >Shillelagh Union, Co. Wicklow 39. GV 1853, Tithe Applotments 1825. >(Remainder of parish on Co. Wexford.) > > > >No Cundles. > > > >Debby Raymond, > >Queensland, Australia > >______________________________ >X-Message: #4 >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 13:46:19 +1000 >From: "Debby Raymond" <debbyraymond@hotmail.com> >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <BAY102-DAV1634F97F05096B8684F1A7D5C20@phx.gbl> >Subject: Re: [Wicklow] CONDELL (CONDLE, CUNDLE) IN GRIFFITHS FOR COUNTY >WICKLOW and COUNTY WEXFORD >Content-Type: text/plain; > charset="Windows-1252" >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 8bit > >Condle from Griffith’s Valuations in Wexford. > > > >Scarawalsh barony, T. > >Condle T, Ferns parish (part of) Scarawalsh barony, Enniscorthy & >Gorey Unions, Co. Wexford 7. GV 1853, Tithe Applotments 1824–5. > > > >No Cundles. > > > >I checked through the complete index of Griffiths Valuations for the >names you sought in Wicklow and Wexford. There were 9 families in >Wicklow and one only in Wexford. Good luck with the rest of your >search. > > > >Debby Raymond, > >Queensland, Australia. Message: #6 >Date: Tue, 2 Aug 2005 01:12:39 EDT >From: Stephsgenealogy@aol.com >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <67.4a07006d.30205ac7@aol.com> >Subject: Re: [Wicklow] CONDELL (CONDLE, CUNDLE) IN GRIFFITHS FOR COUNTY >WICKLOW and CO... >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >Hi Joyce > >I have a WHEATLEY marriage in my records with witness William CONDELL: > >Aug 25, 1883 Thomas Lawrence farmer Sleavroe Moyne to Julia WHEATLEY farmer >of Knocknaguilky father Matt WHEATLEY - >witnessed by Maria WHEATLEY and William CONDELL > >I'll write again if I come across any others. > >Stephanie

Do these people have a townland a parish any dates etc? I dont have a William in my data base and Peggy is tied up at the moment and will eventually get to her data base so anything extra you can supply is always a help when we are searching our data Bases? Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Michael" <deconz@xtra.co.nz> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 02, 2005 9:10 AM Subject: [Wicklow] waters > does anyone have any information William Waters & Mary Lynch Thanks Mike > Waters > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Stick to the lists Golden Rule and you will never go wrong, Co Wicklow > genealogy~history~news~ and be nice to one another. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

Condle from Griffith’s Valuations in Wexford. Scarawalsh barony, T. Condle T, Ferns parish (part of) Scarawalsh barony, Enniscorthy & Gorey Unions, Co. Wexford 7. GV 1853, Tithe Applotments 1824–5. No Cundles. I checked through the complete index of Griffiths Valuations for the names you sought in Wicklow and Wexford. There were 9 families in Wicklow and one only in Wexford. Good luck with the rest of your search. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia.

Condell, Condle from Griffith’s Valuations in Wicklow: Talbotstown Upper, G2 T. Condell G, T in Baltinglass parish, Talbotstown Upper barony, Baltinglass Union, Co. Wicklow 20. GV 1854. Tithe Applotments 1837. (Remainder of parish in Co. Carlow.) Condell G, in Rathbran parish, Talbotstown Upper barony, Baltinglass Union, Co. Wicklow 14. GV 1854. Tithe Applotments book not available. Ballinacor North, G. Condell G, in Rathdrum parish, Ballinacor North barony, Rathdrum Union, Co. Wicklow 25. GV 1852, Tithe Applotments 1825. Ballinacor South, T. Condell T, in Hacketstown parish, (part of) Ballinacor South barony, Shillelagh Union, Co. Wicklow 35. GV 1853, Tithe Applotments 1823. (Remainder of parish on Co. Carlow.) Ballinacor South G2, T. Condle G2, T. in Moyne parish, Ballinacor South barony, Shillelagh Union, Co. Wicklow 36. GV 1853, Tithe Applotments 1824. Shillelagh barony. Condell G3, T. in Carnew parish (part of) Shillelagh barony, Shillelagh Union, Co. Wicklow 39. GV 1853, Tithe Applotments 1825. (Remainder of parish on Co. Wexford.) No Cundles. Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia

does anyone have any information William Waters & Mary Lynch Thanks Mike Waters

Hi Joyce I have a WHEATLEY marriage in my records with witness William CONDELL: Aug 25, 1883 Thomas Lawrence farmer Sleavroe Moyne to Julia WHEATLEY farmer of Knocknaguilky father Matt WHEATLEY - witnessed by Maria WHEATLEY and William CONDELL I'll write again if I come across any others. Stephanie

Hi there, I'm interested in WILLIAM and JAMES CONDELL, living in County Wicklow and/or County Wexford from about 1800-1880. Variant spellings are CONDLE, or CUNDLE. I've been told that the Griffiths Valuations shows 5 CONDELL entries for County Wicklow and 1 CUNDLE for County Wexford. Can any lister with the appropriate Indexes tell me which Baronies they were in and whether these people were in the Tithe Applotment Books? I'm housebound at present and can't get to any libraries. A few years ago I did the GV and TAB research for County Carlow and found CONDELLS there and followed up the Church of Ireland records, etc, without much success, but I've just woken up to the fact that I should also have done Wicklow and Wexford Counties. Any help would be much appreciated by this octagenarian. I really enjoy rhe list and want to thank the people (they know who they are) who share so much information with us, Joyce in Toronto, Canada.

Co Wicklow Publicans in 1910, wonder what price a whiskey was then, ?did they sell ale or guiness? did they sell it by the pint or ? Have you been to any of these establishments? DO they still have the same names? I have been in a few of them and they still had the same names in 2003 and of course there are new names there on some of them now. SURNAME####FORENAME #####LOCATION ANDERSON#####Henry ####Glenmalure Hotel Glenmalure BARRY#####John #####Rathdrum BAYLE#####James#####Kiltegan BEDDY#####David #####Carnew BETHEL#####Frank##### Bray Head Bethel Hotels Ltd. BETHEL#####Frank#####International Hotel Bethel Hotels Ltd. BETHEL#####Frank#####Marine Station Hotel Bray Bethel Hotels Ltd. BETHEL#####Frank##### BEWLY#####Mrs.#####Seapatrick Private Hotel Greystones BIRTHISTLE#####Thomas #####5 Main Street Arklow ( was known as this last time I was near it ) BOLGER#####Mrs H#####Main Street Arklow BRADSHAW#####Peter John#####Bridge Hotel Shillelagh ( and I had a meal in this one previous owners had been Taylors and before them Twamleys) BRITTON#####John #####Glenealy BRYAN#####Mrs.#####(Temperance) Dunlavin BRYAN#####Mrs E K #####Holywood Hotel Esplanade Bray BRYAN#####Mrs.##### BURKE#####Patrick #####Donard BURKE#####John #####Knockenode Avoca BURKE#####Sylvester#####Ballinaclash BUTLER#####Thomas#####Ashford Hotel Ashford BYRNE#####& Co.#####Railway Hotel Greystones BYRNE#####James#####Baltinglass BYRNE#####James#####Kilcoole BYRNE#####John #####Blessington BYRNE#####John J #####Donnoughmore BYRNE#####Mrs Laurence#####Ballymerrigan BYRNE#####Laurence#####Rathnew BYRNE#####Laurence#####Rathdrum BYRNE#####Robert#####Rathdrum BYRNE#####Thomas #####Rathdrum BYRNE#####Bros#####Avoca CARROLL#####Hugh#####Carnew COGAN#####Mrs E#####Laragh Glendalough CONDREN#####Daniel#####Lower Main Street Arklow ( Was known as the Old Ship Last time the Tooles were there) CONLON#####Mrs Mary#####Baltinglass CONNOLLY#####Mrs #####The Downs Delgany COSTELLO#####Mrs #####Rathdrum COWLE#####Miss#####Ardee Temperance Hotel Aughrim, CULLEN#####Michael #####Crown Hotel Donard CULLEN#####William#####Rathdrum CUNNIAM#####John#####Glen HotelAshford DANN#####Mrs Ann#####Rathballylong Blessington DANN#####Nathan #####Private Hotel Delgany DANN#####William H#####Greystones DEVEREUX#####Patrick #####Delgany DORAN#####Peter#####Dunlavin Upper DOWLING#####James J #####Blessington DOYLE#####Mrs.#####Baltinglass DOYLE#####Mrs.#####Kilcoole DOYLE#####Richard#####Ballinglen DOYLE#####Thomas#####Baltinglass DOYLE#####Thomas#####Grangecon DOYLE#####William#####Roundwood FAHY#####Mrs E#####Ovoca FAY#####Mrs Terrenc#####eDunlavin FINN#####Miss#####Redcross FISHER#####Thomas#####Dunlavin FOX#####W A#####Managing Director Royal Hotel Glendalough GARVEY#####Peter#####31 Main Street Arklow GARVEY#####Peter Senr.##### Main Street Arklow GERATY#####Stephen#####Carnew GERMAINE#####Thomas#####Baltinglass GLADWIN#####Miss#####Manageress Grand Hotel Greystones GRAHAM#####Sarah#####Knockenna GRANT#####Michael #####Glendalough Hotel HARBOURNE#####M#####Baltinglass HAYDEN#####Thomas#####35 Lower Main Street Arklow HEALY#####John#####Killincarrick HEALY#####Miss#####Eagle Hotel Esplanade Bray HEGARTY#####Patrick#####Donard HEPPENSTALL#####Thomas#####Kilpedder HEPPENSTALL#####Mrs Dora#####Redcross ( Now these could have been the relatives Thomas Earls was speaking of when he wrote home to New Zealand all those years ago) HOEY#####Ann#####Ballyrogan HUNTER#####Miss#####Newrath Hotel Rathnew HUNTER#####Mrs.#####The Bungalow Temperance Hotel Woodenbridge ( Lot of history attached to this hotel and a lot of different owners before Hunter;s name was hung on the shingle) HUNTER#####Robert Set#####hBallinalea Ashford HUNTER#####Mis M J #####Trafalgar Hotel 1 & 2 Meath Road Bray HURST#####Miss#####Victoria Hotel Goldsmith's Terrace Bray HUTTON#####Joseph#####Baltinglass JACKSON#####Thomas#####Baltinglass JOHNSTON#####William#####Leicester Arms, and Powerscourt Arms Hotels. Enniskerry KAVANAGH#####Kate#####Carnew KAVANAGH#####Denis #####Upper Main Street Arklow ( Wierdest pub I ever entered when in Arklow this is the drinking pub of the younger Weadick boys now ) KAVANAGH#####John J #####Main Street Arklow KEARNS#####Peter#####Aughrim KEENAN#####M#####Keenan's Royal Hotel Roundwood KEHOE#####Daniel#####Baltinglass KEHOE#####James#####Downshire Arms Hotel Blessington KENNEDY#####Michael #####Rathdrum KENNY#####John #####Shillelagh KENNY#####Patrick#####Railway Hotel Shillelagh-Carnew-Coolkenno KENNY#####Thomas#####Coolkenno KING#####Miss#####Manageress Woodenbridge Hotel Avoca KINSELLA#####Andrew#####Main Street Arklow KINSELLA#####Charles#####Main Street Arklow KITSON#####Joseph#####Baltinglass LACY#####Mrs.#####Lacy's Hotel Esplanade Bray LAWLESS#####Thomas#####Lawless's Hotel Delgany LAWLES'S#####Nothing recorded for 1910 LAWLOR#####J W#####Railway Hotel Dunlavin LAWLOR#####Christopher#####Dunlavin LAWLOR#####Michael #####Manor Kilbride Blessington LEESON#####John#####Newcastle LYNCH#####Mrs Maria#####Baltinglass MAGUIRE#####John#####Tinahely MAHER#####Miss#####Manageres Grand Hotel Rathdrum McCULLAGH#####John#####Main Street Arklow McDERMOTT#####Teresa#####Rathnew McDONALD#####Terence#####Ashford McEVOY#####Patrick#####The Meetings Avoca McLOUGHLIN#####Mrs.#####FerryBank and Lower Main Street MILLER#####Mrs#####Imperial Hotel Goldsmith's Terrace Bray MILLER##### MILLS#####Miss#####Esplanade Hotel Bray MILLS##### MOORE#####Mrs Kate#####Vale View Hotel Ovoca MULALLY#####Thomas#####Blessington MURPHY#####Mrs.#####Roundwood MURPHY#####William#####Prince of Wales Hotel Roundwood MURPHY#####James#####The Old Hotel Blessington MURPHY#####Patrick#####Tinahely MURPHY#####Peter#####Poulaphouca NEWELL#####Henry A#####Newtownmountkennedy O'BRIEN#####John#####Dunlavin O'BRIEN#####Patrick#####Tynte Arms Hotel Dunlavin O'BRIEN#####Honor#####Main Street Arklow ODEL#####Arthur#####Royal Hotel Proprietor Quinsborough Rd Bray O'FARRELL#####J#####Tinahely O'KEEFE#####Mrs.Alice#####Coolboy Carnew O'KELLY#####E P#####Baltinglass O'LEARY#####Mrs.#####Rathdrum O'NEILL#####Edward#####Baltinglass O'RAFFERTY#####Felix#####34 and 35 Lower Main Street Arklow O'ROURKE#####John #####Carnew PHELAN#####James#####Meaths Arm Hotel Aughrim PIERCE#####J & M #####49 Main Street Arklow PLUCK#####William#####Kilmacanoge REDMOND#####Mrs Frances#####Avoca REDMOND#####Patrick#####Newtownmountkennedy RICHARDSON#####John#####Lake Hotel Glendalough SHERLOCK#####J T#####Sherlock Arms Hotel Tinahely SHORT#####Thomas#####Newtownmountkennedy SHORT#####Patrick#####Rathnew SMITH#####James#####Newcastle STEFFER#####F J#####Manager Royal Hotel Glendalough SYNOTT#####John#####Newtownmountkennedy TALLON#####Elizabeth#####Baltinglass TONER#####Mrs. E#####Kilcoole TROY#####William#####Kilbride Enniskerry WALDRON#####Michael #####58 Main Street Arklow WALLACE#####John #####Blessington WALSH#####Edmund C#####Vale Road Arklow WHELAN#####James#####Aughrim ZELLER#####Alfred#####Lacken Blessington ########## ©Cara_Links Researching Co.Wicklow,Wexford. 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NAME OF PERSON/ADDRESS OF BUSINESS /TYPE OF BUSINESS William Heath/Main Street Arklow/Apothecaries William McKee/Main Street Arklow/Apothecaries Michael Butler/Main Street Arklow/Baker Martin Condren/Main Street Arklow/Baker Henry Dillon/Main Street Arklow/Baker George O"Neill/Main Street Arklow//Baker Michael Troy/Main Street Arklow/Baker Wingfield Tuke/Main Street Arklow/Baker Joseph Prole/The Flash/Baker Patrick Dunne/Gorey Rd /Blacksmith John Tracey/Gorey Rd /Blacksmith John Kinselah/Parade Ground/Blacksmith Thomas Brennan/Main Street Arklow/Boot & Shoe Maker John Kavanagh/Main Street Arklow/Boot & Shoe Maker John Murray/Main Street Arklow/Boot & Shoe Maker John Stuart/Main Street Arklow/Boot & Shoe Maker George Bates/Barrack Street/Boot & Shoe Maker William Mooney/Main Street Arklow/Butcher Margaret O'Neill/Main Street Arklow/Butcher Francis Smith/Main Street Arklow/Butcher Pearce Byrne/Main Street Arklow/Carpenter James Cullen/Main Street Arklow/Carpenter Patrick Carty/Parade Ground/Carpenter Philip Bolger/Main Street Arklow/Clothes Dealer John Donnelly/Main Street Arklow/Clothes Dealer Patrick Donnelly/Main Street Arklow/Clothes Dealer William Buckler /Main Street Arklow/Earthenware Dealers William Fitzhenry/Main Street Arklow/Earthenware Dealers Michael Buckler/Main Street Arklow/Grocer Thomas Condern/Main Street Arklow/Grocer David Doyle/Main Street Arklow/Grocer George Kearon/Main Street Arklow/Grocer Thomas Nicholson/Main Street Arklow/Grocer Ann Revell/Main Street Arklow/Grocer Eliza Gethings/The Flash//Grocer Patrick Kerns/Parade Ground/Grocer Richard Jenkinson/Main Street Arklow/Jenkinson's Hotel James Kinsela /Main Street Arklow/Commercial Hotel and Posting Establishment Patrick Davis/Main Street Arklow/Ironmongers and Hardwaremen George Willoughby/Main Street Arklow/Ironmongers and Hardwaremen William Atkins/Cooldangan/Physician David Wright/Emmavale/Physician Michael Darcy/Main Street Arklow/Leather Sellers Mary Kearney/Main Street Arklow/Leather Sellers Joanna Reynolds/Main Street Arklow/Leather Sellers Joseph Fitzhenry/Parade Ground/Leather Sellers William Gibson/Ferrybank/Leather Sellers & Currier William Parol/Barrack Street/Leather Sellers Grace Anesley/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers Peter Boland/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers Martin Condren/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers William Fitzhenry/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers Jane Green/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers Thomas Hanagan/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers Jane Lipsett/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers Joseph Martin/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers Peter Nolan/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers William Philpot/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers Richard Price/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers George Ruskell/Main Street Arklow/Linen Drapers and Haberdashers William Hempenstall/Main Street Arklow/Provision Dealer Patrick RosidoeMain Street Arklow/Provision Dealer David Conran/Main Street Arklow/Public Houses James Lawler/Main Street Arklow/Public Houses Elisa Madden/Main Street Arklow/Public Houses Hugh O'Neill/Main Street Arklow/Public Houses Wingfield Tuke/Main Street Arklow/Public Houses Mark Tyrell/Main Street Arklow/Public Houses Thomas Conran /"Anchor' The Fishery/Public Houses Martin Condren/Main Street Arklow/Spirit Dealers Patrick Davis/Main Street Arklow/Spirit Dealers Thomas Hanagan/Main Street Arklow/Spirit Dealers Jane Green/Main Street Arklow/Straw Bonnet Maker Jane Lipsett/Main Street ArklowStraw Bonnet Maker James Burke/Barrack Street/Tailor Thomas Marshall/Main Street Arklow/Tailor Thomas Murphy/The Flash/Tailor Robert Rogan/Main Street Arklow/Tallow Chandlers William Tackaberry/Main Street Arklow/Tallow Chandlers Pearse Byrne/Main Street Arklow/Temperance Cordial House Mary Manifold/Main Street Arklow/Temperance Cordial House John Gregory/Main Street Arklow/Timber Iron and Coal Merchants William Fitzhenry/Main Street Arklow/Timber Iron and Coal Merchants James Cullen/Main Street Arklow/Painter and Glazier Maker Thomas Dempsey/Market House/Weight Master Robert Edward Fitzhenry/Main Street Arklow/Seedman, Gunpowder Dealer Lawrence Hanlon/Main Street Arklow/Eating House William Kavanagh/Main Street Arklow/Eating House Keeper George McDonald/Main Street Arklow/Agent Daniel Meehan /Main Street Arklow/Rope Maker Edward Tuke/Main Street Arklow/Watch and Clock Maker Samuel Whitmore/Main Street Arklow/Saddler Charles Sterne /Near to Arklow /Commissioner of Affidavits Henry Hodgson/Office Near Jetty Arklow/Proprietor of Ballygahan Copper and Sulphur mines /and Glenmalure Lead mines William Murphy/Barrack Street/Sergeant Major of Barracks John Coote/Barrack Street/Constabulary Barracks Chief Constable Richard Davis/Main Street Arklow/Customs House chief Coast Officer David Wright/Chapel Lane Arklow/Fever Hospital Physician Mary Carton/Chapel Lane Arklow/Fever Hospital Matron Henry Lewis/Main Street Arklow/Savings Bank Secretary ( open on Thursdays) Rev Henry Brownrigg/Main Street Arklow/Established Church Rector Rev William Johnson/Main Street Arklow/Thornhill Curate Established Church Rev Jas Redmond/Parade Ground/Parish Priest Catholic Chapel Rev Thomas Coleman/Parade Ground/Curate Catholic Chapel Rev Michael Prendergast/Parade Ground/Curate Catholic Chapel Rev Augustus Murphy/Parade Ground/Curate Catholic Chapel Okay then how many of you can claim one of these business owners and add his/or her spouse to them??? Is there a prize, maybe not but it would brighten my day to see someone add something to some of these names. Cheers ©Cara_Links Researching Co.Wicklow,Wexford. A friend is one who accepts your past, loves you as you are, and believes in your tomorrows

Hi Cara By way of a thankyou for your list. Keep in mind, I have mostly Catholic records, unless otherwise stated, and these records might not be connected to the names on your list at all. Maybe someone else will be able to expand on these. As you know, Catholic Church records rarely listed occupations. A Henry Dillon m. Grace Tukes 10 August, 1807. He was a Baker living on Ferrybank. This is a Rathdrum Marriage License record. A George O'Neill, baker/widower married Honora Newland 19 Oct. 1862 (Civil Record). George's father was Richard, and Nora's father was John. I have two more George Neills who married Mary Kenny, 28 August, 1832 in Rathdrum, and the other bride was Mary Gates, 26 Dec., 1842, also Rathdrum. A Michael Troy married Anne Furlong 31 May 1857 in the Arklow R.C. Church. His parents were Anthony and Rose, and Anne's parents were Laurence and Elizabeth. A Shoemaker names Thomas Brennan (age 24) m. Bridget Bryan (also 24). Thomas was C. of I. Parents were Thomas Brennan/Labourer and Thomas Bryan/Coachmaker. I have a Civil Marriage Registration for a William Fitzhenry, shopkeeper and widower who married Mary Jenkinson, a spinster shopkeeper 15 May 1845, a Rathdrum Civil Resgistration. William was from Arklow, and Mary from Rathdrum. I have only one Patrick Davis, who m. Honora Lacy 12 Feb, 1827 in the Arklow R.C. Church. A George Willoughby, Shopkeeper (C. of I.) m. Jane Prestage Curtis 24 April 1855. His father was a farmer named John, and Jane's father was a farmer named Ralph. George was a widower. Thomas Hanagan had a son John who married a Rose Byrne. John and Rose had a daughter Bridget who married a Patrick Bolger, who had a son John Bolger who married Anne Murphy (my paternal Granny's cousin) in 1904, who had a daughter Bridget Bolger who married George Kearon (my mother's cousin) in NYC in the 1930s, whose youngest son was George, born 1942 - my playmate and favorite 3rd cousin. The spirit shop is known as The Old Ship, now. I'll have to go hunting for the records when I have time. A Joseph Martin m. Louise McEvoy Figsby 7 Feb. 1839 in the Arklow R.C. Church. He's my only Joseph Martin. I wonder if your David Conran could be the David Condren who m. Anne Ward 3 Feb. 1829 in Arklow? The only Hugh O'Neill I have m. Ellen Byrne in Arklow 3 March 1821. I have only one George MacDonald who married Ellen Doyle 25 Feb. 1824. Maybe a few of these are right!! Cheers, Peggy

Greetings from the Genealogical Society of Ireland www.familyhistory.ie A Chairde, The August 2005 issue of "The Genie Gazette" is now uploaded to the Society's website www.familyhistory.ie Featured in this issue: + It all began this month - 160 years ago + The Forgotten Irish + British Kings in Waterford + Lismore, Co. Waterford + Spanish Civil War Victim Remembered + Public Register of Arms, Flags and Badges of Canada + Oak Leaf Specials www.familyhistory.ie/shop + Cork to Mark 50th Anniversary + Commemorative Ceremony + Queries Received + Courses in Genealogy + Wicklow Mining Company + Reg Quinlan, RIP + Diary Dates + An Daonchartlann - opening times & contact telephone number As always, the Society welcomes new members - you can now join on line at www.familyhistory.ie/shop Kindest regards Michael Merrigan Hon. Secretary Genealogical Society of Ireland

Hello All, I found this article in our morning paper and thought it may be of interest. If you think you have come up against a brick wall, consider for a moment future researchers as referred to in the following abridged article: "Perils of rattling the Family Skeletons" Revealing the skeletons in your family closet can rattle chains, psychologically speaking. This from the British Society of Genealogists which is concerned that uncovering family secrets could be harmful to one's wellbeing. The Society wants psychotherapy to be made available tp people who suffer emotional shock when discovering dark deeds, after shaking the branches of the family tree too vigorously. What next? I thought. Certainly genealogy is very popular these days and many have ventured into the complicated tangle of Family history with the same sort of exhileration as a sleuth after a suspect. There is the expectation when doing a family tree that somewhere among the tangled branches lies a figure of some note. More often though it is the stumbling upon children born out of wedlock, adoption, bigamy, thieves and crooks of all types, and even murderers and this can come as a profound shock. We like to think our bloodlines are pure,somehow. More often than not we are in for a surprise and this can tilt our universe somewhat until we come to our senses and realise times were very different and our dead deserve the benefit of the doubt. One of the problems facing future researchers will surely be the modern mixing and blending of relationships, civil unions, de facto relationships etc. The lines get murky after a while and some children will never know who their father's were due to sperm donors and the mothers who decline to name. Also with today's lack of letters and family albums which have been taken over by emails and digital photos it will be much harder to begin research. One thing we can all do for future generations is to keep a journal of family events, lists of favourite things, medical records, school and work records. One archivist in Britain is training as a therapist. She wants to be able to provide counselling to people uncovering family secrets which they find unpalatable. She says it's not just about gathering information but revealing a mess of moral, ethical, social and psychological issues related to how we see ourselves. Still some of us are not averse to unveiling a skeleton or two, it has the sense of making life more interesting and a matter for rejoicing not psychotherapy." I would be quite happy to find a skeleton or two just to prove my Grandfather did exist in Ireland, Happy hunting, Anona

Dear Cara. Thank you for all the hard work you have done compiling these lists for us all. Your effort is much appreciated. Anona

Family's dark humor revealed in death notice. Charles Storch, Tribune staff reporter Published July 18, 2005 Paid death notices rarely have interest beyond a deceased's family and friends, but not one that appeared July 2 in the Raleigh (N.C.) News & Observer. Dorothy Gibson Cully, 86, mother of four, had died peacefully June 3 while in the "loving care of her two favorite children." "All of her breath leaked out," readers were told -- and lots more. According to Ted Vaden, the paper's public editor, the death notice became an instant sensation. Sharp-eyed readers began e-mailing friends about it. Within a week, "there already was a lot of talk," he said. On July 10, Vaden wrote a column about the death notice. Although the response from readers had been overwhelmingly favorable, he disclosed that his paper's classified obituary manager regretted that the notice had not been edited before publication because it may have not met the paper's standards for taste, decency and appropriateness. But, as Vaden wrote, "That would be a shame. It was a hoot." The notice was written by a son of the deceased, David Cully, 60, who works in property development in the Raleigh area. In an interview last week, Cully described his as a "very close, loving Irish family," one with a touch of the poet and an irreverence about death. "These are the things we talk about when death is at the door," he said. He said many people who contacted him and his siblings recognized the dark humor in the death notice, but others assumed, mistakenly, there was a bitter rift in the family. As you will see, he writes about his sister Carol being away at "a posh Florida resort" while their mother was dying. But Carol's version, he said, is that "Mom was fine when she left her in my and [sister] Barbara's care, and we killed her." Meet the Cullys, and appreciate their mom. - - - The death notice (As it appeared) On June 3, 2005 at 10:45 p.m. in Memphis, Tenn., Dorothy Gibson Cully, 86, died peacefully, while in the loving care of her two favorite children, Barbara and David. All of her breath leaked out. The mother of four children grandmother to 11, great-grandmother to nine, devoted wife for 56 years to the late Ralph Chester Cully and a true friend to many, Dot had been active as a volunteer in the Catholic Church and other community charities for much of the past 25 years. She was born the second child of six in 1919 as Frances Dorothy Gibson, daughter to Kathleen Heard Gibson and Calvin Hooper Gibson, an inventor best known as the first person since the Middle Ages to calculate the arcane lead-to-gold formula. Unable to actually prove this complex theory scientifically, and frustrated by the cruel conspiracy of the so-called scientific community" working against his efforts, he ultimately stuck his head in a heated gas oven with a golden delicious apple propped in his mouth Miraculously, the apple was saved for the evening dessert. Calvin was not. Native Marylanders and longtime Baltimore, Kent Island and Ocean City residents, Ralph and Dot later resided in Lakeland, Fla., and Virginia Beach Va.. Several years after Ralph's death, Dot moved to Raleigh in 2001, where she lived with her son David. At the time of her death, Dot was visiting her daughter Carol in Memphis. Carol and her husband, Ron, away from home attending a "very important conference" at a posh Florida resort, rushed home 10 days later after learning of the death. Dot's other children, dutifully at their mother's side helping with the normal last-minute arrangements -- hospice notification, funeral parlor notice, revising the will, etc. -- happily picked up the considerable slack of the absent former heiress. Dot is warmly remembered as a generous, spiritually strong, resourceful, tolerant and smart woman, who was always ready to help and never judged others or their shortcomings. Dot always found time to knit sweaters, sew quilts and send written notes to the family children, all while working a full-time job, volunteering as Girl Scout leader and donating considerable time to local charities and the neighborhood Catholic Church. Dot graduated from Eastern High School at 15, worked in Baltimore full time from 1934 to 1979, beginning as a factory worker at Cross & Blackwell and retiring after 30 years as property manager and controller for a Baltimore conglomerate, Housing Engineering Company, all while raising four children, two of who are fairly normal. An Irishwoman proud of and curious about her heritage, she was a voracious reader of historical novels, particularly those about the glories and trials of Ireland. Dot also loved to travel, her favorite destination being Eire's auld sod, where she dreamed of the magic, mystery and legend of the Emerald Isle. Dot Cully is survived by her sisters, Ginny Torrico in Virginia, Marian Lee in Florida and Eileen Adams in Baltimore; her brother, Russell Gibson of Fallston, Md.; her children, Barbara Frost of Ocean City, Md., Carol Meroney of Memphis, Tenn., David Cully of Raleigh, N.C. and Stephen Cully of Baltimore, Md. Contributions to the Wake County (N.C.) Hospice Services are welcomed. Opinions about the details of this obit are not, since Mom would have liked it this way. ---------- Copyright © 2005, Chicago Tribune

Hello Cara and Listers. I have an Anne REVELL bn c1823 married to William Henry EARLS.(24) 19 JAN 1846. The original info came from Peggy. Anona

Hello Listers, I have not received any list mail for several days. Is it a fault of my Mail Washer or is everyone so far advanced with their genealogy they don't need any assistance? If so please tell me your secret! Anona

I think Cyril is missing Debby's point. Yes, Irish is spoken by many people today in different parts of Ireland, but that is due to the deliberate fostering of the language by the Irish government during the twentieth century. And I might add that, despite all the fostering, it's still a language most Irish people have only a vague acquaintance with. Debby was talking about nineteenth century 'native' speakers. As she said, by the mid-nineteenth century it was confined to certain parts of the country. Every Irish census conducted from 1851 forward asked of an individual's ability to speak Irish and English, or Irish only. Those who spoke English only (the vast majority) were not asked to record the fact. The statistics (as opposed to the actual returns in the case of those destroyed) are available from all these census returns. The statistics from 1901 forward include the large numbers of young people whose knowledge of Irish was due to the beginning of the fostering process, started by the Gaelic League. Paul Gorry

By the 1880s and probably many years before that, most Irish people were speaking English. Census records from 1881 in England and 1901 in Ireland show that any of the Irish-born people I was looking for were all English speakers. The Irish language had sadly been erased throughout most of the country with the exception of the furthest-flung parts of the country i.e. parts of Cork, parts of Kerry, and western Galway. This applies to people of any educational background. Can't answer the question on the cost of a ticket from Ireland to the US, but if you hunt up an almanac it should tell you the value of a pound in the 1880s to a dollar today. 'Go raibh maith agat' is the Irish for 'Thank you' in the singular; 'Go raibh maith agaibh' if you're thanking several people. Best wishes, Debby Raymond a Celtic Australian.

Debby, When the census returns state that the person spoke English didn't necessarily mean that they used that as the first language only that they were capable of speaking the English language! Indeed when I was a lad (not so many moons ago) we spoke the Irish language here in Wexford, indeed where I live now we have one of the most prolific locations in Wexford for speaking it! I of course have (like most people of my age group) forgotten most of it! My lad speaks it and he was born in Wales of all places! It is still taught in almost every school in Ireland and in fact if you want a job in the Government sector you must have some degree of the Irish Language to qualify for the positions. Teaching jobs cannot be got without the language, would you believe, this includes Science and Maths Teachers! slan Cyril Newsome Loch Garman... ----- Original Message ----- From: "Debby Raymond" <debbyraymond@hotmail.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 2:25 PM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Basic Questions > By the 1880s and probably many years before that, most Irish people > were speaking English. Census records from 1881 in England and 1901 in > Ireland show that any of the Irish-born people I was looking for were > all English speakers. The Irish language had sadly been erased > throughout most of the country with the exception of the > furthest-flung parts of the country i.e. parts of Cork, parts of > Kerry, and western Galway. This applies to people of any educational > background. > Can't answer the question on the cost of a ticket from Ireland to the > US, but if you hunt up an almanac it should tell you the value of a > pound in the 1880s to a dollar today. > 'Go raibh maith agat' is the Irish for 'Thank you' in the singular; > 'Go raibh maith agaibh' if you're thanking several people. > Best wishes, > Debby Raymond > a Celtic Australian. > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Have you put something down the list lately that would make someones day, like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of information, you found but didnt need? > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > > >

sorry for the typos on "brogue" and "Australia". Cece