The Judge in question there Cara, was none other than Judge Donnchadh O Buachalla who it was they said in court, had his own key to the pub for access at any time day or night. He still sits on the Circuit court and has by some accounts acquired the nickname of Non-Stick O'Buachalla! A Contraversial Irish Judiciary system or what? --- Cara_Links <cracker@hotkey.net.au> wrote: > Ahh I have eaten at the very same pub, and was there > when it was all going > on > and would still reccomend it for the best feed on > the way to Arklow from the > airport > > Ahh I wonder if the lady covered the inside gossip > as well that involved the > Judge ? did she Mark? > > cheers > CARA > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "mark o'donnell" <mark@odoodle.fsnet.co.uk> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:52 AM > Subject: [Wicklow] Wicklow book > > > > For an interesting read check out a book called > The Black Widow, the > > Catherine Nevin Story. > > Its the true story of a woman who murdred her > husband in the 90s. They ran > > a > > pub in County Wicklow and she mistreated him for > years before either > > killing > > him or hiring someone to do it. > > The in laws ate at the pub on their hols the other > week beofre finding all > > this out!! > > Its written by Niamh O'Connor. > > Mark > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > Have you put something down the list lately that > would make someones day, > > like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of > information, you found > > but didnt need? > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories > about your family and the > > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in > the last 12 months. > > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family > research, but one must not base their whole search > around it. > > ============================== > Jumpstart your genealogy with OneWorldTree. Search > not only for > ancestors, but entire generations. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13972/rd.ashx > > ___________________________________________________________ To help you stay safe and secure online, we've developed the all new Yahoo! Security Centre. http://uk.security.yahoo.com

Weve just booked a trip to Tuam & Kilkelly. Maybe next year we will go to Jack Whites. Im sure plenty of the witnesses are still drinkin/working there!! Mark

Hello Listers, I have recently recalled my Dad mentioning an Inez Ireland being related to us, A cousin to him and though the family lived near my home in Christchurch, NZ we never visited. But I would love to hear from anyone with Ireland/Earl ancestors. Anona

I would be interested to have your Hepenstall details as my EARLS had relatives ( 3 Misses Hepenstall) who were running a pub in Oughill, Arklow in 1909. Anona ----- Original Message ----- From: <Kiwipam@aol.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 22, 2005 7:01 AM Subject: [Wicklow] Cara > Cara, > Just letting you know, I am still alive and plodding along slowly with my > Hepenstall's and Coventry's. Have still met brick walls, but enjoying e-mailing > the new found relatives. > Cheers, > Pam Landy (in hurricane alley Fl) > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > This List is dedicated to Co. Wicklow,Ireland family research and the History of Co. Wicklow Ireland. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx > > > > > -- > No virus found in this incoming message. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.338 / Virus Database: 267.10.13/78 - Release Date: 8/19/05 > >

Hello, My cousin has found our GGGG Grandparents names: Brian and Winifred Sheridan (I don't know her maiden name or any birth/death/marriage dates). Their son Michael was born in 1839 in Blessington and died January 15, 1870 in Harrison, Ohio. Thank You, Cece

Ahh I have eaten at the very same pub, and was there when it was all going on and would still reccomend it for the best feed on the way to Arklow from the airport Ahh I wonder if the lady covered the inside gossip as well that involved the Judge ? did she Mark? cheers CARA ----- Original Message ----- From: "mark o'donnell" <mark@odoodle.fsnet.co.uk> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, August 15, 2005 5:52 AM Subject: [Wicklow] Wicklow book > For an interesting read check out a book called The Black Widow, the > Catherine Nevin Story. > Its the true story of a woman who murdred her husband in the 90s. They ran > a > pub in County Wicklow and she mistreated him for years before either > killing > him or hiring someone to do it. > The in laws ate at the pub on their hols the other week beofre finding all > this out!! > Its written by Niamh O'Connor. > Mark > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Have you put something down the list lately that would make someones day, > like a link to a good site, a headstone, a snip of information, you found > but didnt need? > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx > >

For an interesting read check out a book called The Black Widow, the Catherine Nevin Story. Its the true story of a woman who murdred her husband in the 90s. They ran a pub in County Wicklow and she mistreated him for years before either killing him or hiring someone to do it. The in laws ate at the pub on their hols the other week beofre finding all this out!! Its written by Niamh O'Connor. Mark

Shelton Abbey now thats one we all know but Anona it belonged to an EARL by all rights but he was the EARL of Wicklow ( Howard line)Shelton Abbey the ancestral home of The Howard family, Earls of Wicklow, is just North of the town. The family has not resided there since the early 1900's, and it is now used by the State as a detention centre. William Cecil James Howard, the last surviving member of that family to hold the title 'Earl of Wicklow' died in 1979 and is buried in Kilbride Churchyard. The title 'Earl of Wicklow' is now extinct. Absolutely magnificent Angel guards the Earl of Wicklows wife grave.........worth a look. OLd Kilbride Graveyard ( Monument Graveyard ) where some of your relatives live, at least we know they are there and stationary going no where so to speak. Estate could be administered by and usually was the eldest living male( father) or a brother, in your case the farm which I am still assuming is at Redcross would have automatically passed to the next heir, so if there was a son, to him, females unless provided for were not given the farm........... But just to keep the Earl research alive lets look at ONE who WAS SENT to Australia 1.. John Earls, aged 20, was convicted of perjury in County Wicklow in 1838 and sentenced to transportation to Australia for 7 years. Wonder whose boy he was Cheers Cara Ps I was wondering if the Show in Avoca could be arranged for the summer of 2006 and we call all meet up, and watch it all Hope by then the cap will be tender Oh and by the way Glenbrook house to really carry a legitimate name as such would have to been down towards Delgany way as this is where Glenbrook itself is today Glenbrook Park Never fear Anona we are all still looking for the missing peg for you Cheers Cara

Born 1838 Wicklow Ireland found in the 1881 census ( Lancashire ) Dwelling: Rathbone Place Census Place: Liverpool, Lancashire, England Source: FHL Film 1341866 PRO Ref RG11 Piece 3616 Folio 116 Page 22 Marr Age Sex Birthplace William Henry EARLE M 43 M Wicklow Co, Ireland Rel: Head Occ: Lace Buyer (Drapery Trade) Joanna E. EARLE M 47 F Tipperary, Ireland Rel: Wife Wonder if he is Thomas Rufus Brother ? Cheers Cara

In 1924 my grandmother in Dublin was sent a Christmas present of £2 (two pounds). This was a generous present for the times; approximately £75 (seventyfive pounds) in today's terms. It paid a week's rent for her family of husband and four children, with a little left over, or it would have bought several days' worth of groceries. Inflation was fairly static for many years before and after the 1920s, so perhaps this economic comparison helps? If you seek out an almanac at your local library it might have a financial comparison within it to show you the value of money in the 1880s compared to today. Otherwise, there's always the internet... Debby Raymond, Queensland, Australia "...various members received 7 pounds each and William 12 pounds. I would love to know what that was worth in those days. Anona."

Take a look at this web page and let me know if this is the Stone Gate that you are looking for; http://homepage.eircom.net/~avocatowerlodge/

Last year, my wife and I passed through Avoca. While driving, we found ourselves in front of a large stone gate. We believed there might have been a castle or ruins beyond the gate. However, we didn't have the time to investigate. Plus, it was raining -- actually pouring. This was just past the end of town where Fitzgerald's Pub is located. It was close to the river. Can anyone tell me what we encountered and what we might have missed behind it? Thank you. Bob Thompson

Anona, Ok, just cking, because Thomas and Maura are Kilbrides and the are the sexton for the cemetery in Kilquade and also they hold the records for St Patricks Catholic Church there as well, so, I was just cking it out. Good luck with your search. Cheryl

The Thomas and Mary that you speak of down the road from the Kilbride cemetery, could this be the same Thomas and Maura Kilbride that live in Kilquade, Greystones, Co Wicklow? Cheryl Contway White

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Well.......................what can I say, I have paid for the ferry tickets and selected the softest flat cap that I possess, the performance will be conducted in the vicinity of Fitzgerald's front door immediately after the eleventh pint of Guinness has been consumed or three hours after closing time, whichever is the soonest. Shaun Kenny's donkey and trap will be on standby should there be a need to make the forty five mile emergency dash to Loughlinstown Hospital. Sadly I have to report that the Avoca Ladies Bingo Team failed to identify the location of Glenbrook House, a claim to a close second came with the identification of Glendale a relatively recently built house on the Beach Road close to Killmagig. So no prize for the correct answer (but Mary of Station Road did win fifty four Euros at the Bingo), sorry. Regards Daz.

http://www.nli.ie/co_newsp.htm Tells you what old news papers are available http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Wicklow/1916/FEB.html http://www.irelandoldnews.com/Wicklow/1916/JAN.html http://www.answers.com/topic/freeman-s-journal http://www.celticcousins.net/ireland/

This quest for Glenbrook House location will reach its likely zenith in approximately twenty five minutes when the question will be put to the combined conglomeration of Avoca and district ladies Bingo get together, this group includes the lovely and all knowing Village Post Mistress, Mrs Betty Bulger, (if she doesn't know or can't find out where Glenbrook is or was, then I will eat my cap on the steps of Fitzgeralds Pub in public. Any excuse for a trip over there). Answer hopefully tomorrow. regards Daz.

Hi Cara... Well, I asked my mom about Glenbrook House. She said, going out the Beach Road, where it forks, there was Ned Redmond's farm. There was a big house out there, and it might have been Glenbrook House. She's amazing, by the way. Peggy

Cara at cracker@hotkey.net.au writes: << where would we get more information as to the house Glenbrook House? >> Cara, I decided to go to Google, and enter > "Glenbrook House" Wicklow < and the first couple of hits were for an early 19th century house of that name - lots of information on the place, including photos. The only "problem" is that the house is nowhere near Arklow....... it's immediately north of Enniskerry <gr>. Oh, well....... - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - Pete Schermerhorn, in the glorious Berkshire hills of western Massachusetts