I have one Saul Baptism.... John Saul Baptized 5 September, 1880, son of Henry Saul and Anne Lambert, residents of Tinaheely, Sponsors: Patrick Lambert and Esther Lambert (Father Protestant), Microfilm #6476, Co. of Wicklow in the Parish of Rathdrum. Peggy Leonard/NY

An ancestor of Thomas Saul & Martha Nee Manning is visiting Ireland from USA latter this year. He is wanting to talk to any Saul of his line. This not as simple as he first thought, for in 1958 the last Male member of the family in the British Isles died. A Memorial on the North wall of St Savior's church Reads: "In Memory of Joseph and Anne Saul and their daughter Hannah Mary. Members of a family who worshipped in and supported this church for at least four Generations. This tablet was erected by Thomas Alfred, the last Male member of the family in the British Isles. Ad 1800-1960" What he Needs is to find any of the female line of above. Can you help?

If anyone has Tighes or Mellons who were RC and lived in Carnew parish, Wicklow--right at the Wexford border (or over the border in Wexford), I'd be so grateful. What I have so far (both in Monaseed) is the baptism of John Tighe, s/o Patrick Tighe and Anne Mellon, in 1833; and that of Catherine Tighe (my ggmother) in 1835. In 1858, in Canada, Catherine married John Murphy from Parkmore, Carnew parish, Co. Wicklow. Catherine is, I believe, the Kitty Tigh who was godmother for Margaret Mullery (d/o Hugh Mullery and Judith Mellon) in Parkmore, in 1849. Thanks in advance...Anne

The above names were on the marriage cert. of John Shannon, Cty.Cavan, marred Catherine KEOGH at St.Mary's Cath. Sydney in 1867. Catherine KEOGH came to Australia with her brother John in 1862 on "Northumberland". Their brother Patrick came to Sydney on "British Trident" in 1861. There are many KEOGH's recorded in Australian records which I have seen and in GV they are shown as having properties in the Hollywood Area in Wicklow. Ann TOOMY, the mother of Catherine appears to have come toAustralia but without the marriage or death of Dermot KEOGH, showing the children of the marriage, Icant find out the KEOGH's who are part of Catherine"s family. Any information on the above names would be most appreciated. Shirley Parker

Im searching for Laurence Nolan born 1822, married Anastasia circa 1847 left for Liverpool with son Laurence born 1848 in 1849, only clue to where they came from is 'the foot of the wicklow mountains' (story handed down through the generations) Anastasia was believed to be the daughter of Joseph & Mary Kelly & she was born in 1826 As to how I came to be interested in family research, my parents came to live in nz in the 50's & when I was 12 my grandmother came from liverpool to visit for 6 mnths and shared a room with me, she was concerned the family storys and our history would be lost and spent the whole time telling me everything she knew, she told me all the 'secrets' gave me mysterys to sort out and with her wonderful way of telling a story had me hooked, she died 6 months after returning to Liverpool & 35 yrs later Im still just as obsessed regards Glen Sent: 13 January 2006 10:53 p.m. To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Wicklow] RATH and a few words from the annoying one Cara I may be able to add more light on the surname, RATH not in Wicklow but in Wexford I have no idea what happened to Davids reply the gremlins ate my mail and it appears folk its been eating a lot of my mails. Cute little gremlin that eats mails for hire to anyone who wants him/her going cheap. SO if you have been waiting on a mail from me ask the Gremlin what he did with the mails So Now the new year has reached us and almost half way into 2006, I feel it must be time to ask all those listers doing research to once again take a punt and place their names down the list............ please in the subject line place your surnames in CAPITALS and in the body of your mail any new leads, requests or indeed just tell me you are still looking Or if you are all feeling brave enough a few words about yourself, why you entered into family reseach, a light bit of humour about your family......... So lets get it rolling folk, we have an under used list these days, and just because I am not annoying you on a daily base doesnt mean I am not interested in where you have reached in your family research. Stay sane Cara ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== If you have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact IRL-WICKLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. off-list at Admin Thanks ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx

Taking your advice, Cara, but having no success with these families. Michael Carty and Margaret Norton married in Baltinglass Co Wicklow in 1836, and migrated to Australia 1839, many descendants here.Their fathers were Daniel Carty and Michael Norton, mothers unknown. Please if anyone knows anything earlier than this would love to share. David.

I may be able to add more light on the surname, RATH not in Wicklow but in Wexford I have no idea what happened to Davids reply the gremlins ate my mail and it appears folk its been eating a lot of my mails. Cute little gremlin that eats mails for hire to anyone who wants him/her going cheap. SO if you have been waiting on a mail from me ask the Gremlin what he did with the mails So Now the new year has reached us and almost half way into 2006, I feel it must be time to ask all those listers doing research to once again take a punt and place their names down the list............ please in the subject line place your surnames in CAPITALS and in the body of your mail any new leads, requests or indeed just tell me you are still looking Or if you are all feeling brave enough a few words about yourself, why you entered into family reseach, a light bit of humour about your family......... So lets get it rolling folk, we have an under used list these days, and just because I am not annoying you on a daily base doesnt mean I am not interested in where you have reached in your family research. Stay sane Cara

Cara I see from a previous email note that you had/have some information on Amadeus Valentine and his tree, could I get a copy of that sometime please? Ta BrendanBrendan Dixon Computing Services, UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 Ireland Vox:353 1 7162008 Fax:353 1 2837077

Dear Irene I found this on FamilySearch Pedigree Resource File: Individual Record FamilySearchT Pedigree Resource File Suggest you go back to church records for baptism records or to Death records for place of birth. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Patrick Rath Compact Disc #42 Pin #820604 Sex: M ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Event(s): Christening: 27 Apr 1796 Place: Clogherhead Co. Louth, Ireland Death: 20 Feb 1886 Place: Three Mile (nr.Beechworth) 89 yrs 327 Burial: 22 Feb 1886 Place: Beechworth Vic Lived 33 yrs in Vic ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Parents: Father: Thomas Rath Disc #42 Pin #820656 Mother: Anne Lynch Disc #42 Pin #820498 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Marriage(s): Spouse: Margaret Hamilton (Tumalty, Tummolty) Disc #42 Pin #820603 Marriage: Place: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Notes and Sources: Notes: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 42 Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 42 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Submitter: Irene REES 1/14 Goldwyn Way Studio Village Gold Coast Queensland ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Submission Search: 613588-0304102192003 URL: CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #42 CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources. Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please Note: Submitter information is provided to help in the coordination of personal family history research. Use of this information for any other purpose, including marketing, advertising, or commercial solicitation, is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- © 1999-2005 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English approval: 3/1999 Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 3/22/1999). Privacy Policy (last updated: 11/24/2004). 27 http://www.familysearch.org v.2.5.0 About Us | Contact Us | Press Room LDS Church Sites | LDS Country Sites

Thanks for your answer, David. I think I lodged most of that information, but I now have doubts about its authenticity. Mind you, that information about Patrick's place and date of birth were sent to me by a native of the Clogher area, who had very kind in checking for me in the Church records, for which I was very grateful. You would think that, in those days, it would be more likely that both parties to the marriage would come from the same place or close to. Many thanks for emailing me Regards Irene R Rees/Dowsett Family Page http://tribalpages.com/tribes/Brent44 -------Original Message------- From: David Griffiths Date: 01/13/06 13:12:27 To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Wicklow] RATH, Patrick Dear Irene I found this on FamilySearch Pedigree Resource File: Individual Record FamilySearchT Pedigree Resource File Suggest you go back to church records for baptism records or to Death records for place of birth. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Patrick Rath Compact Disc #42 Pin #820604 Sex: M ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Event(s): Christening: 27 Apr 1796 Place: Clogherhead Co. Louth, Ireland Death: 20 Feb 1886 Place: Three Mile (nr.Beechworth) 89 yrs 327 Burial: 22 Feb 1886 Place: Beechworth Vic Lived 33 yrs in Vic ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Parents: Father: Thomas Rath Disc #42 Pin #820656 Mother: Anne Lynch Disc #42 Pin #820498 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Marriage(s): Spouse: Margaret Hamilton (Tumalty, Tummolty) Disc #42 Pin #820603 Marriage: Place: ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Notes and Sources: Notes: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 42 Sources: Available on CD-ROM Disc# 42 ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Submitter: Irene REES 1/14 Goldwyn Way Studio Village Gold Coast Queensland ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Submission Search: 613588-0304102192003 URL: CD-ROM: Pedigree Resource File - Compact Disc #42 CD-ROM Features: Pedigree View, Family View, Individual View, Reports, Downloadable GEDCOM files, Notes and Sources. Order Pedigree Resource File CD-ROMS ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Please Note: Submitter information is provided to help in the coordination of personal family history research. Use of this information for any other purpose, including marketing, advertising, or commercial solicitation, is strictly prohibited. ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- © 1999-2005 by Intellectual Reserve, Inc. All rights reserved. English approval: 3/1999 Use of this site constitutes your acceptance of these Conditions of Use (last updated: 3/22/1999). Privacy Policy (last updated: 11/24/2004). 27 http://www.familysearch.org v.2.5.0 About Us | Contact Us | Press Room LDS Church Sites | LDS Country Sites ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== SUBJECT LINE~ Make it catch the eye of the reader, Body of the mail add as much information as you can.religion,any dates if known, anything that will help someone help you. ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/06 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/06

In response to Cara's invitation: Seeking info on James Kavanagh b. about 1830 in Wicklow (or Wexford or Carlow). He was in Chicago, Illinois, USA by 1863. Seeking info on his sibling Margaret Kavanagh b.1837 in Carlow, a Sister of Mercy in Rhode Island USA by 1862. Seeking info as to their parents, other siblings, etc. Their father's first name might have been either James, John or Charles. Thanks to the good people of this list, we have "found" James Kavanagh's wife, Margaret Byrne Kavanagh as one of a family who sailed from New Ross on April 15, 1851 to Quebec May 30th on ship Glenlyon: Patrick Byrne age 52 in 1851 (d.1867 Chicago, a "Native of Parish Hacketstown, County Wicklow, Ireland" to quote his headstone) Catherine Byrne Byrne Yes, a Byrne married a Byrne. Age 54 in 1851 (Have no information whatsoever after sailing. No grave.) Mary Byrne age 25 in 1851 (d.spinster 1896 buried Calvary Cemetery, EvanstonChicago) Michael Byrne age 22 in 1851 (Colorado miner 1880 Census) Elizabeth Byrne age 19 in 1851 (tutor to Colorado Governor' Evans' children, d."Eliza Marsh" 1889, buried Chicago) Margaret Byrne (Kavanagh) 16 in 1851 (married James Kavanagh in unknown year, 3 children survived, she died 1923 Chicago) Terence Byrne 12 in 1851 (Colorado miner 1880 Census) James and Margaret Byrne Kavanagh are my husband's ggrandparents. Since most of my own family research was done by cousins and given to me for the asking, I decided to try to research my husband's Irish family. It has been almost 4 years now. As you can see, we have had gratifying success thanks to this List. It has been frustrating to learn not one more thing about our Kavanaghs than we always knew. But, all in all it has been educational and rewarding and a lot of fun to learn from and laugh with the good people of the Wicklow List. Hello and Happy New Year, Cara and all. Sharon

Hi, am new to list but have been researching Wicklow ancestors for a year or two, and have been corresponding with a few listers, which has been very much appreciated. Am posting my interests in response to Cara's challenge for a new roll call. I am researching my great great great grandparents: Daniel Hunt 1795-1857 and Ann Groves c. 1795-1877 were married on January 11, 1820 (according to info from a family Bible). Ann was said to come from Wicklow, Daniel from Cork. They came to the Smith's Falls area of Ontario between 1830 and 1833. They lived in neighbouring Kitley township from at least 1839 to the end of their lives. Catherine Wright of the Wicklow Family History Centre searched the records of Clonmore Roman Catholic Parish last year for me and as well as C of I and other religious records. While she did not locate a marriage record, she did find find RC baptismal records for three children of Daniel Hunt and Ann Groves in the Clonmore registers, their residence was given as Aghold: Child: CATHERINE Father DANIEL HUNT HUNT Baptised 1821-07-04 Mother ANNE GROVES Godfather THOMAS MURPHY Religion RC Godmother MARY DAVIS Child ANNE Father ? HUNT HUNT Baptised 1828-04-27 Mother ANNE GROVES Godfather Religion RC Godmother ELLEN BYRNE Child JOHN Father DANIEL HUNT Baptised 1830-09-12 Mother ANNE GROVES Godfather PAT DOYLE Religion RC Godmother BETTY BYRNE RC Baptismal records were also found for three children born to a Michael and Ellen Hunt nee Butler also of Aghold, between 1824 and 1830. According to the marriage register of Clonmore R.C., Michael and Ellen were married on February 2nd, 1816, so it is likely that this couple had more children before 1824. Considering that RC Hunts were not common in the area and that Michael was of the same generation as Daniel Hunt (my great great great grandfather), it is possible that he and Michael were related. Interestingly, Daniel's second son, b. 1835 in Leeds Co. Ontario, was named Michael. The first son, John, was born in 1830 in Wicklow as you see above. Perhaps this was Ann Groves' father's first name? It is also possible that the marriage record from 1820 and those of the other children born in the 1820s in Ireland (Margaret Ann born Sept 26, 1823 and my great great grandmother Mary's Feb. 27, 1826 occurred elsewhere or are lost. One intriguing piece of information which I have yet to follow up was a search I did some time ago on the Co. Wexford Heritage and Genealogy Society web-site was the baptism of a Mary Hunt in 1826. I have no idea if this could be my Mary's, but Wexford as you know was very close to Aghold, Wicklow.) Interestingly (once again!) Barbara Dowling of this list shared this bit of info, about another Aghold Groves family of the era: garnered from the research of John O'Neill of Dublin from Church of Ireland records: JOHN and MARGARET GROVES > Known children : > 1. > MARY GROVES bapt. 10th March 1805 > 2. > ABARAHAM GROVES bapt. 23rd May 1794 > 3. > ANN GROVES bapt. 8th August 1799 (could be 1798 also as area is damaged). I am interested in the Ann, of course! Another piece of interesting news is that according to a shirt-tail cousin's notes, after Daniel Hunt's death in 1857, the George Code family (of Aghowle, Wicklow) provided housing for the widow Ann (Nancy) Groves Hunt in Kitley Ontario. She died in 1877. Until her death she was always described as an RC on census records. The Codes were a Protestant Wicklow (Aghold) family. Some Groves who came on the Peter Robinson ships in 1825 to a nearby area in Ontario were also Protestant. I am wondering if perhaps my Ann was baptised in the Church of Ireland but converted to Catholicism on marriage to Daniel Hunt in 1820. Is any one else researching the Groves of Aghold, the Hunts of Aghold, or the George Code (b. 1811)-Jane Johnston family of Kitley, Ontario that could perhaps shed some light on my quests? Many thanks in advance!

Hello Listers I had always thought that my 2xggrandfather, Patrick RATH, was born in Co Louth in 1797. However, a cousin of mine and his wife recently visited Ireland and tramped everywhere looking for Irish roots. They have recorded that Patrick was born c 1797 in Wicklow, IRL. His wife Margaret TUMBLY (also TOMBLEY, TUMALTY or HAMILTON) was b. c 1805 in Co. Louth. They married in IRL abt 1826/27 (Patrick was 29 when he married). They had two children: Mary b 1827 in Widnes, Derby England, Thomas b.1830 Lancashire, England, and John b. 1833 aboard ship coming to Australia. If anyone can give me any information of where to find the true information, I would be extremely grateful. Patrick was Catholic Irene R Rees/Dowsett Family Page http://tribalpages.com/tribes/Brent44 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.371 / Virus Database: 267.14.17/226 - Release Date: 1/10/06

Hi All I am now stating to help a friend that lives in Wicklow get their family sorted!!! They can get back to about 1850 when a John STINGER "appears" in Ballyloughlin (just north of Newcastle). There seem to be Stringers in Arklow and Gorey but they need to make their links. If you have any information ..... All the best Brendan . Brendan Dixon Computing Services, UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 Ireland Vox:353 1 7162008 Fax:353 1 2837077

Dear All I have found a couple of very hekpful people in my searches for the VALENTINE family. I now have a very wide (and imcomplete) picture. I can get back to a James valentine who had at least 2 sons (Thomas and James born 1808 and 1809). He would seem to have lived in Rostyduff (Rustyduff, Rostiduff etc) and then Diamond Hill, his son James married Elizabeth Hanbidge and returned to Rostyduyy whil Thomas went on living in Diamond Hill and then Coolawinna. This Thomas was buied in Kiltegan so any leads might be there but from what I understand the Kiltegan records only exist back to 1845 and beside the Kilranelagh records are completely gone. Anyway on with the search in this new year Brendan . Brendan Dixon Computing Services, UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 Ireland Vox:353 1 7162008 Fax:353 1 2837077

Hi all, Recently came to light in 20yr old correspondence with a family member, mention of the following record from the Kilavaney Church Baptismal Register; 2nd September 1822, Luke of Thomas Traynor and Mary Connors. This would knock over a brick wall for me if this could be confirmed and if the same records also showed Luke to have brothers Patrick (born about 1825) and Thomas (My G-grandfather, born about 1836). It would also mean that I have finally found my G-G-Grandparents to be Thomas Trainor and Mary Connors! I don't have access to these records, so any help or advice would be greatly appreciated. Regards. Terry

Hi from Brisbane Gore was my mother's maiden name and her father and mother were": Herbert Gore m Rose Ryles in 1913 - his parents were: Frederick Gore and Helen Will m 1888 At this stage I do not know where Frederick came from, Helen came to Australia at the age of 18 as an assisted passage from Perth, Scotland. This family lived in Sydney. Herbert Gore had the following siblings that I know of: Arthur D b 1889 and Doris L b 1891 I have just started researching my mothers side and as not one of them are still alive, including my Mum, it is a little difficult. Mind you not as difficult as trying to find my surname of Wolloghan which supposedly comes from Wicklow. Keep in touch. Julie Wolloghan >From: "R & B GORE" <rwbgore@nobbys.net.au> >Reply-To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Wicklow] Re: "Reply to Eileen from Gina" >Date: Wed, 14 Dec 2005 09:29:12 +1100 > >Pardon me for butting in but the name GORE always makes my ears prick up. >My gggranfather was Arthur Gore , convict Convicted Dublin 1837 7 yrs, >transported to Sydney NSW ,on the Westmoreland, 4 ? times married and a >regular convict and a general "WILD" boy, He appears to claim he was a >Wicklow man. >Are your "GORES" part of mine? >Ron GORE @ Pindimar NSW > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >Have you any new ideas on researching Co Wicklow you would like to share. > >============================== >Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. >New content added every business day. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx >

May the new year bring health and happiness to you and yours.........not to mention a few extra bucks would also be nice!

To Peggy Leonard, many thanks for your good wishes. To all on the Wicklow List, may you all have a very happy new year, and may you all have a most happy and peaceful New Year in 2006. Shirley Parker (in sweltering heat for New Year's Eve in Australia) -----Original Message----- From: WeadickResearch@aol.com [mailto:WeadickResearch@aol.com] Sent: Saturday, December 31, 2005 2:43 PM To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Wicklow] Re: Happy New Year Happy New Year, everyone. Peggy Leonard/NY ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== If you have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact IRL-WICKLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. off-list at Admin Thanks ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429

Happy New Year, everyone. Peggy Leonard/NY