does anyone know the population on Kilcommon, Wicklow in 1800? Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: Cara_Links<mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 2:28 AM Subject: [Wicklow] ALCOCK INTERESTS OF CARA Terri These are my interest for Co Wicklow may be linked to your family someway ? Descendants of John Alcock Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 ALCOCK He married MARGARET TOOLE 1787 in Marriage licence Bond. More About JOHN ALCOCK: Abode: 1787, Winfield Wicklow , Co Wicklow Ireland Occupation: 1787, Servant More About MARGARET TOOLE: Parish of: Powerscourt Co Wicklow Ireland More About JOHN ALCOCK and MARGARET TOOLE: Bride a: Spinster Marriage: 1787, Marriage licence Bond Where granted: .Dublin & Glendalough Diocese ------------------------------ Descendants of Nathaniel Alcock Generation No. 1 1. NATHANIEL1 ALCOCK Child of NATHANIEL ALCOCK is: i. WILLIAM2 ALCOCK, m. JANE FLIGHT, 20 Jan 1860, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland. Marriage Notes for WILLIAM ALCOCK and JANE FLIGHT: ALCOCK, William Marriage Wife: Jane FLIGHT Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1860 Recorded in: Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Husband's Father: Nathaniel ALCOCK Wife's Father: Robert FLIGHT Source: FHL Film 101420 Dates: 1860 - 1860 More About WILLIAM ALCOCK and JANE FLIGHT: Marriage: 20 Jan 1860, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland Flight family being buried in St gabriels at Arklow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the real wild card is this one Descendants of Unknown Alcock Generation No. 1 1. UNKNOWN1 ALCOCK Child of UNKNOWN ALCOCK is: i. UNKNOWN2 ALCOCK, m. PHILADELPHIA SLOPER. Notes for PHILADELPHIA SLOPER: Received under the name of Philadelphia Alcock from the Tontines 1773 200 pounds as did her Half sisters Martha and Mary ... Mary had died 27/3/1773 noted from page 26 of the Tontines in PRO London UK More About PHILADELPHIA SLOPER: 3rd Daugter of: Robert and Kittoria Sloper Abode: 1773, Kilcommon Co Wicklow Ireland Linked to family above Descendants of George Alcock Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE1 ALCOCK He married MARY UNKNOWN. Child of GEORGE ALCOCK and MARY UNKNOWN is: i. JANE2 ALCOCK, b. Abt. 1769; d. 06 Apr 1844, Parish of St Michans Dublin. Notes for JANE ALCOCK: 200 Pounds paid to Jane from the Tontines of 1775. More About JANE ALCOCK: Aged 6: In 1775 Tontines Page 27 PRO London ----------------- And of Course the one you are excited about but it seems to me Alcocks were in Co Wicklow for a wee while. Descendants of George Alcock Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE1 ALCOCK He married JANE GLYNN. Child of GEORGE ALCOCK and JANE GLYNN is: i. ELIZABETH ANNE2 ALCOCK, b. 02 Nov 1868, Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. ------------------------ Cheers for now Cara ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== Have you any new ideas on researching Co Wicklow you would like to share. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx>

Terri These are my interest for Co Wicklow may be linked to your family someway ? Descendants of John Alcock Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 ALCOCK He married MARGARET TOOLE 1787 in Marriage licence Bond. More About JOHN ALCOCK: Abode: 1787, Winfield Wicklow , Co Wicklow Ireland Occupation: 1787, Servant More About MARGARET TOOLE: Parish of: Powerscourt Co Wicklow Ireland More About JOHN ALCOCK and MARGARET TOOLE: Bride a: Spinster Marriage: 1787, Marriage licence Bond Where granted: .Dublin & Glendalough Diocese ------------------------------ Descendants of Nathaniel Alcock Generation No. 1 1. NATHANIEL1 ALCOCK Child of NATHANIEL ALCOCK is: i. WILLIAM2 ALCOCK, m. JANE FLIGHT, 20 Jan 1860, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland. Marriage Notes for WILLIAM ALCOCK and JANE FLIGHT: ALCOCK, William Marriage Wife: Jane FLIGHT Marriage Date: 20 Jan 1860 Recorded in: Arklow, Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Husband's Father: Nathaniel ALCOCK Wife's Father: Robert FLIGHT Source: FHL Film 101420 Dates: 1860 - 1860 More About WILLIAM ALCOCK and JANE FLIGHT: Marriage: 20 Jan 1860, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland Flight family being buried in St gabriels at Arklow ---------------------------------------------------------------------------------- And the real wild card is this one Descendants of Unknown Alcock Generation No. 1 1. UNKNOWN1 ALCOCK Child of UNKNOWN ALCOCK is: i. UNKNOWN2 ALCOCK, m. PHILADELPHIA SLOPER. Notes for PHILADELPHIA SLOPER: Received under the name of Philadelphia Alcock from the Tontines 1773 200 pounds as did her Half sisters Martha and Mary ... Mary had died 27/3/1773 noted from page 26 of the Tontines in PRO London UK More About PHILADELPHIA SLOPER: 3rd Daugter of: Robert and Kittoria Sloper Abode: 1773, Kilcommon Co Wicklow Ireland Linked to family above Descendants of George Alcock Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE1 ALCOCK He married MARY UNKNOWN. Child of GEORGE ALCOCK and MARY UNKNOWN is: i. JANE2 ALCOCK, b. Abt. 1769; d. 06 Apr 1844, Parish of St Michans Dublin. Notes for JANE ALCOCK: 200 Pounds paid to Jane from the Tontines of 1775. More About JANE ALCOCK: Aged 6: In 1775 Tontines Page 27 PRO London ----------------- And of Course the one you are excited about but it seems to me Alcocks were in Co Wicklow for a wee while. Descendants of George Alcock Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE1 ALCOCK He married JANE GLYNN. Child of GEORGE ALCOCK and JANE GLYNN is: i. ELIZABETH ANNE2 ALCOCK, b. 02 Nov 1868, Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. ------------------------ Cheers for now Cara

Cara, My question regarding the Fitzwilliam tennant is how do you find out those not on the CD, earlier ones? I have looked up the CD and not found my ancestor and this was one of the avenues I was looking at. Thanks Bev Johns ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hollingshead" <hollies@melbpc.org.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:08 PM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] SWAIN - CLARE > Thanks Cara, if you ever come across a Swaine I would love to hear > > Best wishes, > > Anne > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:46 PM > Subject: [Wicklow] SWAIN - CLARE > > >> There are none on the CD Anne >> >> you all need to be aware that the CD onlycovers the second lot of >> migrants >> not the first lot of people who left the estated >> Years covered are 1847-1856 >> >> The name Clare name is mentioned 6 times on the CD >> but it will depend which family of these you are seeking as well >> >> Feel free to contact me off list as regards this search for Clare. >> >> Cara >> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Anne Hollingshead" <hollies@melbpc.org.au> >> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:27 PM >> Subject: [Wicklow] : "Fitzwilliam Tenants CD-ROM." >> >> >> > Could someone look up SWAIN/SWAINE for me please? >> > >> > Anne >> > >> > >> > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> > SUBJECT LINE~ Make it catch the eye of the reader, >> > Body of the mail add as much information as you can.religion,any dates > if >> > known, anything that will help someone help you. >> > >> > ============================== >> > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors >> > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: >> > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > rgetid=5429 >> > >> > >> >> >> >> >> ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >> *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not > base their whole search around it. >> >> ============================== >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >> > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > If you dont remind us about your search, we wont remember it, so a gentley > reminder at least once a month does not hurt the listers at all. > > ============================== > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

thanks, Betty! m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: betty<mailto:betty@flexinet.com.au> To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 19, 2006 3:16 PM Subject: RE: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay Hi Mary, I see Jeff has answered, as it was he who had the details. I have no Brownrigg connections that I know of, only a Brownrigg was witness on a marriage certificate. On the Jones side, my Jones family were cabinet makers in Dublin, there were a couple around Tinahely, and perhaps they were connected to the Jones lot in northwest Wicklow and over the borders into Kildare and Carlow. Betty. -----Original Message----- From: Mary Villalba [mailto:estre68132@msn.com] Sent: Saturday, 18 February 2006 6:20 AM To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay Hi, Betty & Jeff: I broke my arm this morn so typing is ultra slow...what did I miss? Brownrigg is Mary Jane, b. 1875, Jones is Stanly Vaughan, b. 1885. 2nd marriage 4 MJ....1st 2 George Vickers. MJ &S were my grandp's. I haven't found a mar. cert, yet.... thanks, m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: Cara_Links<mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au<mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au>> To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:37 AM Subject: Fw: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Garrad" <bettygarrad@bigpond.com<mailto:bettygarrad@bigpond.com<mailto:bettygarrad@bigpond.com<mailto:bettygarrad@bigpond.com>>> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com>>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay > Hi Jeff, > > > > Thank you for the Brownrigg/Jones marriage, which may prove useful at a > later date. A pity there is no Christian name for the female, but it was > like that in those days. > > > > Thanks also for the Marriage Licences for the Diocese of Dublin, always > handy to have lists like that. > > > > Cheers, > > Betty in sunny Queensland. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.4/255 - Release Date: 9/02/2006 > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not base their whole search around it. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta<http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta> rgetid=5429<http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourc<http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourc> eid=14599&targetid=5429> ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== Have you asked about that ellusive name you are seeking, or have you forgotten who it was you were seeking, ask and you may receive. ============================== Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. New content added every business day. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx> -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.10/263 - Release Date: 16/02/2006 -- No virus found in this outgoing message. Checked by AVG Free Edition. Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.11/264 - Release Date: 17/02/2006 ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== If you have a problem, question, need direction or to report a virus, please contact IRL-WICKLOW-admin@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-admin@rootsweb.com>. off-list at Admin Thanks ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>

Cara Thanks for the info, been a bit out of the loop due to a family emergency that has required all my free time. I think that John Beatty of Shelton is indeed my uncle. The letter from him indicates that he would be approximately that age in 1844. Is there any way or where would I go to get more information to determine if Eleanor is his wife, I would assume so but I never assume anything in this research. Michael of Shelton could be the third son. I have a John and Alar and 1 nameless. Uncle John's brother named a son Michael but not sure if the same names would be used, could be their father's name. There are also 3 nameless daughters although hints. I don't have my data with me as I am on business travel in Edinburgh, so close yet so far from Ireland when you have not enough time to pop across the Irish Sea and be there. The Beattys of Ballinacor I can't find as good as a potential connection, it will be listed as wait and see. Where is Ballinacor? I am hoping to get to Ireland in the next year if all goes well. Any help in guiding me to where to research would be most appreciated as always. You are a great person to help us all so much in our research. I just can't thank you enough. Charlene >From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> >Reply-To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Wicklow] SHELTON AND BEATTIE AND BEATTY >Date: Sun, 22 Jan 2006 22:08:24 +1100 > >Dear Charlene > >Shelton was the seat of the Lord Wicklow his home being Shelton Abbey which >stood in the Shelton Demense > >I recall I sent the name BEATTIE to you and you dismissed them as not yours >wrong spelling I apologise now if you are not the person I sent this data >to >.............further to this research I can now say quite clearly that >although the name is spelt on their headstones as BEATTIE, they are indeed >the BEATTY's of SHELTON. >All be it that the headstone in Old Kilbride does have carved on it >BEATTIE - but one must never close their eyes to the variables of ones name >in Irish research. > >I have also cross referenced with the headstone to the burial book and this >is what I have >OK= Old Kilbride > > burial no167/Elenor BEATTY//Shelton16/11/1844 aged 66 buried OK by >William >Daly >burial no 282/John BEATTY/Shelton 15/6/1848 aged 77 buried OKby William >Daly >burial no 549/Michael BEATTYof Ballinacor ( Living Parish of Inch) buried >22/1/186 aged 22 yrs 2 months buried at OKby William Daly >burial no 665/John BEATTY of Ballinacorburied 28/5/1867aged 19 buried >OKWilliam Daly headstone says says 18 registers says 19 * Died 26/5/1867 >burial no 671/ John BEATTY of Ballinacor buried 19/8/1867aged 5 yearsburied >OKby William Daly >burial no 699/Michael BEATTYof Shelton Demense buried 31/8/1869 aged 43 >buried OK by Rev Charles P O'Meara Curate of Arklow *Died the 18th August >1868 and it says on the headstone he was 54 and the register states 43 >years >of age >( I also wonder what the delay in burial was ?) > > >Hope this helps in your search, as Shelton is indeed the area of where you >will find Shelton Abbey on the Beech Road on the way to Avoca >....................I cannot read a map I leave that to the experts to >give >you map co-ordinants. > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <charw@sympatico.ca> >To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Sunday, January 22, 2006 3:55 AM >Subject: [Wicklow] Shelton, Ireland - Help > > > > Can anybody tell me where Shelton in Co. Wicklow is. Not Shelton Abbey. > > I have a letter from an uncle, John Beatty of Shelton, Ireland and have > > not been able to find it on a map. In particular, I am looking for > > graveyards of that area. > > > > Thanks > > Charlene > > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >Have you any new ideas on researching Co Wicklow you would like to share. > >============================== >View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find >marriage announcements and more. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx

Where can you buy the Fitzwilliams Tenants CD? >From: IRL-WICKLOW-D-request@rootsweb.com >Reply-To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-WICKLOW-D@rootsweb.com >Subject: IRL-WICKLOW-D Digest V06 #46 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 04:00:09 -0700 > >Content-Type: text/plain > >IRL-WICKLOW-D Digest Volume 06 : Issue 46 > >Today's Topics: > #1 ALCOCK - Kiltegan [Teralcock@aol.com] > #2 Re: [Wicklow] Fitzwilliam tennants ["D & B Johns" ><johnsdb@bigpond.net] > >Administrivia: >To unsubscribe from IRL-WICKLOW-D, send a message to > > IRL-WICKLOW-D-request@rootsweb.com > >that contains in the body of the message the command > > unsubscribe > >and no other text. No subject line is necessary, but if your software >requires one, just use unsubscribe in the subject, too. > >To contact the IRL-WICKLOW-D list administrator, send mail to >IRL-WICKLOW-admin@rootsweb.com. > >______________________________ >X-Message: #1 >Date: Sat, 18 Feb 2006 17:50:35 EST >From: Teralcock@aol.com >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <221.8394fce.3128febb@aol.com> >Subject: ALCOCK - Kiltegan >Content-Type: text/plain; charset="US-ASCII" > >This is a huge thank you to Cara - Yesterday while scouring the "net", I >found a marriage announcement for Richard Beacham Alcock; parents George >Alcock >and Jane Glynn of Wicklow. I passed this on to another family member in >Ontario and he was motivated to do some searching and came up with a post >of >Cara's on Rootsweb - Cara Links- a birth of Elizabeth Jane Alcock, parents >George >Alcock and Jane Glynn. Confirmation of a branch of my family that has >been >elusive for so long, and confirmation that my Alcock line came from >Wicklow. > >If anyone else has any information about George Alcock and Jane Glynn, >please post - with my trip to Ireland coming up in October, this >information will >be invaluable and save many hours of searching. > >Thanks Cara! > >Terri Alcock > >______________________________ >X-Message: #2 >Date: Sun, 19 Feb 2006 19:38:30 +1100 >From: "D & B Johns" <johnsdb@bigpond.net.au> >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Message-ID: <00e601c6352f$dcd8ab40$0100000a@johnsfamily> >Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Fitzwilliam tennants >Content-Type: text/plain; > format=flowed; > charset="Windows-1252"; > reply-type=original >Content-Transfer-Encoding: 7bit > >Cara, > >My question regarding the Fitzwilliam tennant is how do you find out those >not on the CD, earlier ones? I have looked up the CD and not found my >ancestor and this was one of the avenues I was looking at. > >Thanks >Bev Johns > >----- Original Message ----- >From: "Anne Hollingshead" <hollies@melbpc.org.au> >To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >Sent: Saturday, February 18, 2006 12:08 PM >Subject: Re: [Wicklow] SWAIN - CLARE > > > > Thanks Cara, if you ever come across a Swaine I would love to hear > > > > Best wishes, > > > > Anne > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> > > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:46 PM > > Subject: [Wicklow] SWAIN - CLARE > > > > > >> There are none on the CD Anne > >> > >> you all need to be aware that the CD onlycovers the second lot of > >> migrants > >> not the first lot of people who left the estated > >> Years covered are 1847-1856 > >> > >> The name Clare name is mentioned 6 times on the CD > >> but it will depend which family of these you are seeking as well > >> > >> Feel free to contact me off list as regards this search for Clare. > >> > >> Cara > >> > >> > >> ----- Original Message ----- > >> From: "Anne Hollingshead" <hollies@melbpc.org.au> > >> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > >> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:27 PM > >> Subject: [Wicklow] : "Fitzwilliam Tenants CD-ROM." > >> > >> > >> > Could someone look up SWAIN/SWAINE for me please? > >> > > >> > Anne > >> > > >> > > >> > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > >> > SUBJECT LINE~ Make it catch the eye of the reader, > >> > Body of the mail add as much information as you can.religion,any >dates > > if > >> > known, anything that will help someone help you. > >> > > >> > ============================== > >> > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > > ancestors > >> > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn >more: > >> > > > >http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta > > rgetid=5429 > >> > > >> > > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > >> *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must >not > > base their whole search around it. > >> > >> ============================== > >> View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > >> marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx > >> > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > If you dont remind us about your search, we wont remember it, so a >gentley > > reminder at least once a month does not hurt the listers at all. > > > > ============================== > > Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > > areas they lived. 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This is a huge thank you to Cara - Yesterday while scouring the "net", I found a marriage announcement for Richard Beacham Alcock; parents George Alcock and Jane Glynn of Wicklow. I passed this on to another family member in Ontario and he was motivated to do some searching and came up with a post of Cara's on Rootsweb - Cara Links- a birth of Elizabeth Jane Alcock, parents George Alcock and Jane Glynn. Confirmation of a branch of my family that has been elusive for so long, and confirmation that my Alcock line came from Wicklow. If anyone else has any information about George Alcock and Jane Glynn, please post - with my trip to Ireland coming up in October, this information will be invaluable and save many hours of searching. Thanks Cara! Terri Alcock

Thanks Cara, if you ever come across a Swaine I would love to hear Best wishes, Anne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:46 PM Subject: [Wicklow] SWAIN - CLARE > There are none on the CD Anne > > you all need to be aware that the CD onlycovers the second lot of migrants > not the first lot of people who left the estated > Years covered are 1847-1856 > > The name Clare name is mentioned 6 times on the CD > but it will depend which family of these you are seeking as well > > Feel free to contact me off list as regards this search for Clare. > > Cara > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Anne Hollingshead" <hollies@melbpc.org.au> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:27 PM > Subject: [Wicklow] : "Fitzwilliam Tenants CD-ROM." > > > > Could someone look up SWAIN/SWAINE for me please? > > > > Anne > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > > SUBJECT LINE~ Make it catch the eye of the reader, > > Body of the mail add as much information as you can.religion,any dates if > > known, anything that will help someone help you. > > > > ============================== > > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&ta rgetid=5429 > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not base their whole search around it. > > ============================== > View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find > marriage announcements and more. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx >

Hi everyone: I am new to this sight and hope someone can help me out. My grandma, Annie Fennell (1861) was born and raised in Holdenstown, Baltinglass, Co. Wicklow area with rest of her siblings. I have info on them. Some of the siblings were listed as being born in Baltinglass or Rathvilly. Her parents were Henry Fennell born around 1846-7 in Mayo, Co Queens/Laois. His father was William Fennell (b. about 1824) and wife Elizabeth________ born about 1817 and died 1910. Her mother was Dorcas Jones born 1844 and died 1929-30. Her parents were Robert Jones and Rebecca Carpenter - living in the Baltinglass area. Dorcas had a cousin with the last name Williams. Dorcas inherited the home place plus Mt. Kelly. Later she bought Ballybeg in Rathvilly, Co. Carlow. Her daughter Elizabeth Fennell Salter owned Ballybit, Co. Carlow. I am looking to find more complete info on above as well as siblings of Dorcas and Henry, cousins, aunts and uncles. I believe my Fennell and Jones family may have originated in England and settled in the area. Maybe even getting some of the land in Ireland from the English because of their military services..... The family was well off and were Protestant. I would also like to have more info on the battle at Castlecomer, co Kilkenny I think from the 1700s. It is said that some of my Fennel and/or Jones family were in that battle. Thanks for any help you can provide. Carol Synnott Nelson

can anyone tell me what the date would have been for this document? many thanks, Terri

Dear Mary, Broken arm!? Hmmm, how does one get one sitting in front of a computer? Best wishes for a speedy recovery! The Brownrigg-Jones marriage I was talking of was that of John Brownrigg, who resided in Mullins, Co. Wicklow, Ireland and m. ? Jones in Oct 1802 [according to Henry Farrar, Irish Marriages, Being an Index to the Marriages In Walker's Hibernian Magazine. (Genealogical Publishing Co., Inc., Baltimore, MD, 1972; also on Ancestry as a database), at p. 59. I don't have your Mary Jane Brownrigg and Stanley Vaughan Jones - would appreciate an off-list message re: same. Thanks, Jeff ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mary Villalba" <estre68132@msn.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, February 17, 2006 3:19 PM Subject: Re: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay > Hi, Betty & Jeff: I broke my arm this morn so typing is ultra slow...what > did I miss? Brownrigg is Mary Jane, b. 1875, Jones is Stanly Vaughan, b. > 1885. 2nd marriage 4 MJ....1st 2 George Vickers. MJ &S were my grandp's. > I haven't found a mar. cert, yet.... > thanks, m > Mary Villalba > AZTEC Communications > 303-290-8415 Tele > Distinguished Governor > Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 > "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one > child and one community at a time." > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cara_Links<mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au> > To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:37 AM > Subject: Fw: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Betty Garrad" > <bettygarrad@bigpond.com<mailto:bettygarrad@bigpond.com>> > To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com>> > Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:06 PM > Subject: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay > > > > Hi Jeff, > > > > > > > > Thank you for the Brownrigg/Jones marriage, which may prove useful at a > > later date. A pity there is no Christian name for the female, but it > was > > like that in those days. > > > > > > > > Thanks also for the Marriage Licences for the Diocese of Dublin, always > > handy to have lists like that. > > > > > > > > Cheers, > > > > Betty in sunny Queensland. > > > > > > -- > > No virus found in this outgoing message. > > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.4/255 - Release Date: > 9/02/2006 > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not > base their whole search around it. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your > ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn > more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429<http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429> > > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Have you asked about that ellusive name you are seeking, or have you > forgotten who it was you were seeking, ask and you may receive. > > ============================== > Find your ancestors in the Birth, Marriage and Death Records. > New content added every business day. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13964/rd.ashx > >

Hello Listers I have a document, which I think must be the Giffith Evaluation or Tithe Applotment [these were obtained by my sister on a trip to Ireland last year and she did not make note of the source. [perhaps someone will recognize the format. County of Wicklow Barony of Upper Talbotstown, Parish of Kiltegan, Union of Baltinglass, Electoral Divison of Humewood Townlands and Occupiers Immediate Lessors Muckduff Lower John Wilson Thomas Hopson For all 6 names William Driver William W. F. Hume George Driver George Alcock William Moody Denis Byrne George Driver Thomas Byrne William Driver William Driver William W. F. Hume Vacant William Driver The next column is a list of what is leased, then the acreage, and then the Rateable Annual Valuation. Muckduff Upper John Wilson Thomas Hopson William Driver for all six George Driver William W. H. Humewood George Alcock William Moody Description says "Land [Mountain]" and it seems the total was 19 pounds for 483 acres. Hope these names will ring a bell for someone. My particular interests are ALCOCK, DRIVER and MOODY. Also hoping someone can explain whether it was common for a group of people to lease a tract of land together? thanks, Terri Alcock

Looking for information about a Jane GLYNN of Co. Wicklow, who married George ALCOCK, also of Co Wicklow. They had a daughter Mary Jane ALCOCK who visited Ontario and married her cousin Richard Beacham ALCOCK II in 1892 at age 29, so that would mean she was born abt. 1863. Jane GLYNN was probably born about 1820, possibly in the Kiltegan/Baltinglass area, though this is only an educated guess. Are there any others on the list researching the GLYNN name? Terri Alcock

Hi, Betty & Jeff: I broke my arm this morn so typing is ultra slow...what did I miss? Brownrigg is Mary Jane, b. 1875, Jones is Stanly Vaughan, b. 1885. 2nd marriage 4 MJ....1st 2 George Vickers. MJ &S were my grandp's. I haven't found a mar. cert, yet.... thanks, m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." ----- Original Message ----- From: Cara_Links<mailto:cracker@hotkey.net.au> To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 3:37 AM Subject: Fw: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay ----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Garrad" <bettygarrad@bigpond.com<mailto:bettygarrad@bigpond.com>> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com>> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay > Hi Jeff, > > > > Thank you for the Brownrigg/Jones marriage, which may prove useful at a > later date. A pity there is no Christian name for the female, but it was > like that in those days. > > > > Thanks also for the Marriage Licences for the Diocese of Dublin, always > handy to have lists like that. > > > > Cheers, > > Betty in sunny Queensland. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.4/255 - Release Date: 9/02/2006 > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== *Folk lore* is a wonderful additive to family research, but one must not base their whole search around it. ============================== New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429<http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429>

Would some one who has access to the CD of Fitzwilliam tennants, be so kind as to check if there is any record to the following members of the Pearce family William Pearce Born 1786 (presumed Yorkshire) Married Betsy...Carnew Co. Wicklow Ireland 1822 then Elizabeth Kerr in 1825 - 4 sons 7 daughters Robert Pearce Born 1830 Shillelagh Co Wicklw Ireland Married Louisa Walford Jones 1854 6 sons 1 daughter. I have no further details on any of the family of the above people except for the direct male line. My information comes from a family tree copied by the above Robert Pearce on 21st July 1877 from an earlier tree and goes back to 1645 in Durham England. I would be interested in any information at all on this family. The only descendant I have known was a Harry Weir from Tinahely who said he thought William Pearce had come over with Fitzwilliam Thank you - in anticipation. Mary L. Lidbetter, Berry NSW Australia

There are none on the CD Anne you all need to be aware that the CD onlycovers the second lot of migrants not the first lot of people who left the estated Years covered are 1847-1856 The name Clare name is mentioned 6 times on the CD but it will depend which family of these you are seeking as well Feel free to contact me off list as regards this search for Clare. Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Anne Hollingshead" <hollies@melbpc.org.au> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 13, 2006 5:27 PM Subject: [Wicklow] : "Fitzwilliam Tenants CD-ROM." > Could someone look up SWAIN/SWAINE for me please? > > Anne > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > SUBJECT LINE~ Make it catch the eye of the reader, > Body of the mail add as much information as you can.religion,any dates if > known, anything that will help someone help you. > > ============================== > New! Family Tree Maker 2005. Build your tree and search for your ancestors > at the same time. Share your tree with family and friends. Learn more: > http://landing.ancestry.com/familytreemaker/2005/tour.aspx?sourceid=14599&targetid=5429 > >

----- Original Message ----- From: "Betty Garrad" <bettygarrad@bigpond.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, February 12, 2006 11:06 PM Subject: {not a subscriber} Re:[Wicklow] re Finlay > Hi Jeff, > > > > Thank you for the Brownrigg/Jones marriage, which may prove useful at a > later date. A pity there is no Christian name for the female, but it was > like that in those days. > > > > Thanks also for the Marriage Licences for the Diocese of Dublin, always > handy to have lists like that. > > > > Cheers, > > Betty in sunny Queensland. > > > -- > No virus found in this outgoing message. > Checked by AVG Free Edition. > Version: 7.1.375 / Virus Database: 267.15.4/255 - Release Date: 9/02/2006 > > >

Great idea Cara! My mystery person is Mary (UNKNOWN) married James Weekes or Weeks sometime in the 1820's possibly in the civil parish of Donoughmore. Yvonne ----- Original Message ----- From: "Marion Clare" <marionclare@shaw.ca> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, February 14, 2006 3:10 PM Subject: [Wicklow] The Fitzwilliam CD > > Sorry I have missed this thread but would be really interested to know where > I can purchase this CD. > > Our relative Michael CLARE was bestowed lands by the 4th Earl so I think > this may help to fill in a few gaps. > > The information I have is recorded as follows. > > "As was the custom in the period of the British occupation of Ireland, large > estates were given to those who the rulers felt had served them well and in > 1692 the Earl of Stafford was given a 90,000 acre estate in Co. Wicklow. > In 1778 the 4th Earl Lord Fitzwilliam inherited the estate and he gave a > tenant farm in Ratheentague to Michael CLARE (b. 1772) when he married > Katherine BYRNE of The Hollow, Ballinglen in 1806" > > Raheentaigue is near Tinahely. > > Any advice on the location of Ballinglen would also be appreciated. > > If you think it might benefit me, please would someone tell me where to > obtain the CD > > Many thanks > > Marion Clare > . > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > Have you asked about that ellusive name you are seeking, or have you forgotten who it was you were seeking, ask and you may receive. > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx >

Dear Listes and Archive hunters I have this common family within my data base files, they are as common as common can be, but my main concern is if one marries the other what will they name the children for example If Miss ? married Mr Unknown would she have a quantity of questionable children or would the children remain Unknown quantities with a questionable background. Now we all have these in our files Mr and Mrs Unknown and Mr and Mrs ? How do we solve this dilemma well as I am in the pickle jar with all of you and cannot figure this out alone, perhaps if we began the hunt for these unknown maiden names and parents ON LIST might solve some of our UNKNOWN and QUESTIONABLE families. So I am going to list some of my unknown in the hope that someone if not on this list -as a lister- but in the future while foraging in the archives someone may find this mail and assist me I will be forever grateful for any assistance given.......... I will begin with SOME of my unknowns and if anyone else is having the same problem then list yours as well we may have the hidden piece I dont know I cant find mine alone sitting here wondering what to do next........... invent them a married name -----------no thats not my style 1-Henry Earls married Miss Unknown circa 1823 and I have listed four children they have been lucky enough to be lists as Earls 2- William Sherwood married Miss Unknown circa 1840's and has four children noted they are lucky they are known as Sherwoods. 3-William Moody married Miss Unknown and is deceased by his daughter Charlottes wedding in 1866 Charlotte marrying a Peter Jackson 7/6/1866 at Dunlavin 4-William Fenelon married Miss Unknown and has Timothy Fenelon I know who Timothy married and when but nothing more on his mummy or their date of marriage ( Parents) 5-John O'Neil married Elizabeth Unknown and has a Michael Oneil who married Dorothy Toole what was Michaels mothers maiden name? 6-William Hudson married Jane Unknown and one child listed is Jane Hudson died at Ballykeane Co Wicklow Ireland 7- Christopher Cullen married when ? Catharine Unknown and they had Sarah baptised 22/1/1792 in the Avoca Parish now who was her mother before marriage Miss ? 8- Edward Gregory married Darky Unknown and by Nov 1825 they had a son named John in the Parish of Avoca what was Darkys maiden name and who were her parents were their other family members ? 9- Edward Doyle born circa 1781 and died 20 Oct 1860 Ballintemple hitched his wagon to Miss Eelanor Unknown and she poor lady had died by 16 Sept 1892 also at Ballintemple Buried with them is their son Patrick born circa 1836 died 1921. 10-Colcough Byrne son of James And Ann Griffin married Miss Eliza Unknown and had a mess of children they wer lucky they have the surname Bynres ( so do about a million others in Co Wicklow) Colclough was born in the Avoca Parish and died at Ballyrogan give me his wifes maiden name and I may be able to assist you with some of the childrens names fair swap I would think So if anyone stumbles upon any of the answers I need for the above ten and is willing to assist me either on the list or by sending me an email at this address or if someone stumbles upon this mail in the archives the email is still current cracker@hotkey.net.au I will be only to happy to share data that I have compiled over the many years of researching Co Wicklow. Oh and if you think this is the only 10 unknowns I have then I am sorry to have to tell you ---------you are very mistaken Cheers and good luck in your research Cara

Hi Marion If Ballinglen is in the middle and you are looking at a map then: To the left is Ballybeg To the right is Tomcoyle To the North East Preban To the North Askakeagh To the North West Carrigroe To the South West Garryhoe To the South Drummin To the South East Mucklagh Further to the South Wst is Tinahealy (looks about 4 to 5 miles away on a 1:35000 scale map) Brendan > tenant farm in Ratheentague to Michael CLARE (b. 1772) when he married > Katherine BYRNE of The Hollow, Ballinglen in 1806" > > Raheentaigue is near Tinahely. > > Any advice on the location of Ballinglen would also be appreciated. > > > Marion Clare > . > Brendan Dixon Computing Services, UCD, Belfield, Dublin 4 Ireland Vox:353 1 7162008 Fax:353 1 2837077