I too am planning to make my first trip to Ireland. I will be heading over at the end of June and hoping to gather information about my Byrne/Byrnes/and Bradley families. Question, can anyone recommend a good map of "current" Ireland that can be easily compared to the Ancestral Map I currenly have? Deb Peterson Wisconsin

Thanks to Paul for his suggestions. For myself, I have planned two or three days in Dublin before going to Wickow and am in the process of researching what can be found where in Dublin so that I don't waste a minute. I will also spend a couple of days at the end of my trip to follow up on anything I find while tramping around cemeteries, following suggestions and hunches, and looking at old homesteads. I have been researching in Canada and via the net for many years, as have many others, and have almost exhausted what can be accomplished long distance. The internet, fellow searchers, and lists such as this one have filled in and added branches to my tree. In fact, one bit of info recently provided by Cara, and later corroborated by others, has finally, after so many years of searching by me and others in my family, given me the name of the town in Wicklow where the family originated. A breakthrough and timely as it will save me a lot of fruitless searching in all the wrong places. I don't know if or when I will get back to Ireland, so any suggestions from those who live there or have made family history research trips are most welcome. Terri

Hi Barb... Here's what children I have for Mathew Kennedy....maybe there's a clue hidden in these. Mathew Kennedy and Mary Byrne - 1843 marriage. I'm not sure if the Kennedy maiden names are the actual names of the mothers, since some recorders didn't use the mother's maiden names. There might be clues in the sponsors' names, or residences, or naming patterns. At any rate, they are all from the Church in Rathdrum, microfilm # included. Seems to be the place to start... Peggy Catherine - 1816 - 31 December to Kennedy, Matthew & Brien, Elizabeth - Ash___? Sponsors: James and Elizabeth Kennedy - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Elizabeth - 1819 - 27 April to Kennedy, Matthew & Brien, Elizabeth - Coracilla Sponsors: James Kennedy and Mary Brien - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Winifred - 1821 - 13 October to Kennedy, Matthew & Brien, Elizabeth - Ashtown Sponsors: Andy Brien and Catherine Byrne - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Mary - 1824 - 22 February - Kennedy, Matthew - Brien, Elizabeth - Silvermines Sponsors: Hugh and Mary Brien - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Elizabeth - 1826 - 2 April to Kennedy, Matthew & Brien, Elizabeth - blank - Sponsors: John Whelan and Catherine Kennedy (Bryan) - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum James - 1832 - 14 July to Kennedy, Matthew & Brien, Betty - blank - Sponsors: Michael Cullen and Rose Kennedy (Bryan) - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ---- Matthew - 1856 - 16 September to Kennedy, Matthew & Byrne, Mary - Ballinafunshogue Sponsors: Patrick Larkin and Ann Byrne - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Laurence - 1856 - 16 September to Kennedy, Matthew - Byrne, Mary - Ballinafunshogue Sponsors: Michael Redmond and Catherine Byrne - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Rose - 1836 - 16 July to Kennedy, Matthew & Kennedy, Elizabeth - Glenmalur Sponsors: James Killrane and Fanny Turner? - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Catherine - 1839 - 29 June to Kennedy, Matthew & Kennedy, Elizabeth - Glenmalur Sponsors: James Hamilton and Elizabeth Brien. - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ --------- Anne - 1829 - 6 March to Kennedy, Matthew & Brien, Elizabeth - blank Sponsors: Laurence Byrne and Rose Bryan (Bryan) - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum ------------------------------------------------------------------------------ ----------- Catherine - 1844 - 6 June to Kennedy, Matthew & Kennedy, Mary - Glenmalur Sponsors: Matthew Byrne and Catherine Hamilton. - Wicklow - Rathdrum Mary - 1846 - 3 May to Kennedy, Matthew & Kennedy, Mary - Glenmalur Sponsors: James Whelan and Elizabeth Byrne. - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Michael - 1848 - 10 September to Kennedy, Matthew & Kennedy, Mary - Glenmalur Sponsors: Thomas and Bridget Byrne (Byrne crossed out). - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Thomas - 1851 - 19 January to Kennedy, Matthew & Kennedy, Mary - Glenmalur Sponsors: Patrick and Mary Kearney? - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum Patrick - 1853 - 9 October to Kennedy, Matthew & Kennedy, Mary - Glen Sponsors: Laurence Larkin and Rose Kennedy - 6476 - Wicklow - Rathdrum

If you´re coming to Ireland to research family history your first stop should be Dublin (unless your ancestors were from Ulster - and even then it would be no harm to start in Dublin). The records you are likely to need from any part of the country will be available in one of the national repositories in Dublin, while they won´t (by and large) be available for research purposes in the county your ancestor was from. The National Library and the National Archives both have the GAS (Genealogy Advisory Service), run by members of APGI (the Association of Professional Genealogists in Ireland). It´s entirely free to members of the public. That´s the logical place to start any research on Irish ancestors. Allow yourself a few days in Dublin for research purposes and they you can go and see the place your ancestor was from, hopefully armed with more information on your ancestor than you had when you arrived in Dublin. ´ There really isn´t any point in coming to Ireland to research your ancestry unless you´ve done basic research through the records of your home country and established basic facts about your emigrant ancestor. The following are the important points in preparing for a visit to Ireland as far as I´m concerned: 1) Exhaust the relevant sources in your own country to determine as much as possible about the emigrant ancestor. 2) Bring photocopies of any documents you have about the emigrant ancestor (and the earliest generations of the family in your country) with you on your trip. You don´t have to bring every piece of paper you have, but do bring the relevant ones (so many people turn up at the GAS with huge folders but having left the relevant material at home because they couldn´t carry any more stuff!) 3) Go to the GAS at the National Library in Kildare Street or the National Archives in Bishop Street and BRING YOUR DOCUMENTATION with you. The National Library GAS opens Mon-Fri 10am to 4.45pm (even though the Library itself opens till 8.45pm on Mon-Wed) and on Sat 10am-12.45pm. As it´s very often extremely busy the first thing you should do is sign the visitors book so that you´re in queue for being called for your consultation. You´ll be given a brief consultation and then be advised to go and do some research (not necessarily in the Library but maybe elsewhere within walking distance). As you do each step of your research you can return for more guidance on what to do next. You can visit the service as often as you wish. By the way, the National Library´s GAS is likely to be operating soon out of the Genealogical Office/Heraldic Museum just down the street from the Library´s main building. That´s just a temporary measure than may have ended before October or may continue into next year. The National Archives GAS opens Mon-Fri 10am-4.45pm. It´s in a smaller room than the Library´s GAS. At the Archives you´ll be given a reader´s ticket before going into the GAS room. Again, sign the visitors´ book and take a seat. By the way at the National Library you won´t need to get a reader´s ticket to look at microfilm, newspapers or anything on the open shelves of the Reading Room. Just in case you need to get a reader´s ticket for anything else, bring 2 passport photographs with you. This requirement doesn´t apply to the National Archives. 4) Leave your visit to Wicklow or wherever till you´ve done your research in Dublin. Paul Gorry (ps Cara, I´ve finished my book!) Original Message: ----------------- From: Teralcock@aol.com Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 23:24:38 EDT To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Ireland in October I am also making my first trip to Ireland in October, researching Alcock/Hawkins/Moody/Driver in Co. Wicklow and Wexford as well as Burgess and Irvine in Fermanagh Terri ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== Undocumented genealogy is mythology. My family tree must have been used for firewood! Whoever said "Seek and ye shall find" was not a genealogist ============================== Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://mail2web.com/ .

Here, Cara 1841 - John Kearn to Mary MURPHY - 8 February - Witnesses: William and Catherine Murphy Their children (Baptized in S.S. Mary and Peter's) 1844 - 18 November - John - sponsors: John Canterberry and Ellen Manifold 1847 - 17 October - Patrick - sponsors: Edward Mulligan and Anne Kearn 1847 - 17 October - Thomas - sponsors: James Mulligan and Margaret Kearn 1851 - 11 February - Sarah - sponsors: Thomas Mulligan and Sarah Murphy Sarah is the only daughter I have. Peggy

I am also making my first trip to Ireland in October, researching Alcock/Hawkins/Moody/Driver in Co. Wicklow and Wexford as well as Burgess and Irvine in Fermanagh Terri

Must belong to someone -go for it Peggy Co Wicklow John Kearans-Kearon aged 42 years married 1841 is a fisherman Wife Mary 30 years Sera Kearons ( sic) 2 dau Co Wicklow Barony Arklow Parish Arklow St. Cara

The four main categories of Irish records that are relevant to almost everyone doing research on Irish ancestors include: Civil Records State registration of non-Catholic marriages began in Ireland in 1845. All births, deaths and marriages have been registered in Ireland since 1864. The main points of research access are: The General Register Office of Northern Ireland in Belfast The General Register Office in Dublin Research in the Belfast Office is limited by space constraints, and pre-booking up to two weeks in advance may be necessary. Research in the Dublin Office is allowed on the indexes only, with the purchase of a photocopy necessary to obtain further information. Census Records Government censuses were conducted for all of Ireland once each decade from 1821 - 1911. The census records for 1821, 1831, 1841, and 1851 were largely destroyed in the 1922 fire at the Public Record Office, Dublin, although some surviving fragments exist. The Irish census records for 1861, 1871, 1881 and 1891 were completely destroyed prior to 1922, by order of the government. Therefore, the earliest surviving comprehensive census returns are for 1901 and 1911. Because of this, the normal rule that census returns should not be available to the public for 100 years has been suspended in the Republic of Ireland. The returns for both 1901 and 1911 can be consulted on microfilm in the National Archives of Ireland. A full microfilm copy of the 1901 census is also available at the LDS Family History Library in Salt Lake City and through local Mormon Family History Centers. Indexes, in published or database form, are available for the 1901 returns of some counties. Copies of the 1901 returns for the six counties now in Northern Ireland are available at the Public Record Office of Northern Ireland. In addition, some of the local heritage centers have computerised transcripts of the 1901 census returns for their areas. Church Records Through the 19th century about 85% of the population of Ireland were Roman Catholic, 5% were members of the Church of Ireland, and the remaining 10% consisted primarily of Presbyterians. Prior to the onset of civil registration in Ireland in 1864, the records of these churches are virtually the only sources for family information. Property Records Because of the destruction of 19th-century census returns, surviving land and property records from the period have become significant for genealogical research. Two surveys, each covering the entire country of Ireland, are a rich source for genealogists: Tithe Applotment Books, 1823-1838 Griffith's Primary Valuation, 1848-1864

Records of many kinds have been kept in Ireland since the Middle Ages. Unfortunately fire, carelessness and theft have caused the loss and destruction of much of this material. Many records of the Court of Chancery were lost by fire in 1304. In the mid 1530s, records maintained in Dublin Castle became so subject to pilfering that they were moved to the more secure Bermingham Tower, which then became the main repository of Irish records; unfortunately it burned down in 1758 with the loss of many documents. Other records had already been lost in 1711 when another fire, this time in the Customs House, destroyed books belonging to the Surveyor General. The creation of the Commission of Public Records in 1810 made provision for the systematic collation and archiving of national records. The Public Record Office was opened in 1867 and from then until around 1922, the Office was the centre for the collection and cataloguing of national records. Unfortunately, this building suffered devastating damage during the Civil War in 1922 and many records were destroyed, in particular the nineteenth century census returns, Church of Ireland parish records and the enormous collection of original wills. In the years following this loss, great efforts were made to unearth substitutes and many of the gaps can now be filled through the use of secondary material collections - partial transcripts or abstracts, researchers' notes, census substitutes etc. In 1988, the Public Record Office was amalgamated with the State Paper Office and renamed the National Archives of Ireland. In 1992, it moved from its old home in the grounds of the Four Courts to new custom-built premises in Bishop Street. One further factor also needs to be borne in mind by any genealogical researcher. Northern Ireland was established in 1921 and the Irish Free State in 1922. Some of the records concerning the six counties, which were previously held in Dublin, were moved to the North - so a researcher may have to follow such records, although copies of most of the records moved can still be found in Dublin. Some anomalies do still exist, such as the fact that the Census Records covering the six counties for 1911 are still covered by the 100 year rule North of the border but these census records including the six counties are freely available in the South. While many people assume that all Irish records have been lost or destroyed, that is just not the case. From the point of view of genealogy, the most significant losses from the 1922 Ireland Public Record Office fire was the 19th-century census returns, the Church of Ireland parish registers, and the testamentary collections. Other records not maintained in the PRO have survived, however, including civil records of births, marriages, and deaths, non Church of Ireland parish records, property records, and later censuses. Even for much of the material that was lost, there are abstracts, transcripts, and fragments of the originals.

Dear Barbara, If you are beginning your research at the National Archives Dublin, you are beginning in the correct place, the reel you will need of course is the Rathdrum reel and you will need much patience to read it, as it is a very poorly written reel, and the time frame you will be needing is towards the end of the reel .............. You also have the added fact that at the Dublin Library you have a wonderful group of researchers there to give you great guides and leads, and they are far more equipped to help you there, you have of course a mighty job ahead of you with the BYRNE name being involved with it. Now where dates slightly differ between sometimes the IGI and parish registers between shipping records, births and baptismns is that LDS tend to use what date they have gleaned it may be a birth, a christening or a baptism date so that may allow for some days out, Shipping records also are confusing in as much as some parents lowered the childs age to get a cheaper fare - even their own depending upon if they were paying for the ticket or indeed an agent for a bounty scheme was paying the fare. The of course death dates DO vary on Irish headstones, if the child was born to an illiterate family, whose only record of the birth is what the clergy wrote in the register, or if it was unregistered then a birth might be remembered simply as ABOUT that time. But I honestly feel if you are seeking a RC family you are beginning your search in the correct place, on the microfilms for the area at the Dublin Library . Allow yourself plenty of time dont think it can be done in five minutes and I feel you will reap your rewards. Of course this will only happen if MIss Kennedy was from the parish of Rathdrum..............men married the women as a rule in their parishes. Good luck and keep us informed Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Barbara BABBITT" <mhsnj60@msn.com> To: <IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, April 03, 2006 7:21 AM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Byrne > Hi Sharon, > > My gg-grandmother was Mary Burns/Byrne b. abt. 1823. She married Matthew > Kennedy b. abt. 1820 in Ireland. According to his gravestone, he was "of > Rathdrum Parrish, County Wicklow, Ireland. The children of Matthew and > Mary are Catherine b. 5 Jun 1845, Mary b. abt. 1850, Michael b. 17 Sept > 1850, Thomas 1853, Lawrence 1856, Patrick, 1858. According to the > immigration list there was also a John born abt. 1859 which isn't listed > on any of the US census reports. I do have some information of the Byrnes > from Peggy (Weadick Research) She indicated that a Matthew Kennedy/Mary > Byrne had twins, Matthew and Laurence b. 1856) however the dates don't > match my Lawrence. So I'm not sure if I have correct family although > there were children born with similar names. They were Catholic. > > It seems there are several Matthew Kennedy's and Mary Byrne's that married > and children with similar names. > > Mary immigrated 12 Aug 1869 with Mary, Patrick, Thomas and Lawrence to the > US, New Jersey and settled in the Wharton area. Matthew and Michael did > not and I can't locate them anywhere. Catherine went to England, married > a William Vickers, She immigrated in 1864. William Vickers was from > Seven Churches. > > I'm not sure of the Townland. One record states Ballinafunshogue and one > was Glenmalur. It's a puzzle. > > Peggy was just great helping me but now that I'm going to Ireland I wish I > had information about Matthew and Mary's parents. I plan on going to the > Nat'l Library. Hoping this will turn up more info. > > Thanks for asking! If you can offer any words of advise I am open to > suggestion. > > Barbara Kennedy Babbitt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sharon Kavanagh<mailto:kavanagh@99webstreet.com> > To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Byrne > > > Barb - Who are/were your Wicklow Byrnes? Do you know their townland? When > did they migrate and to where? What religion? What kind of information do > you seek about Byrne surname in Co.Wicklow? > Sharon > > > At 07:18 PM 4/1/2006 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > > >I am finally going to Ireland May 30th. I am planning on doing some > >research on my Kennedy/Byrne family at the National Library and in > Wicklow > >while I'm there. 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Going for our first trip in October as well. Researching Beatty (Beattie) and Smith of Arklow, Wicklow and Shelton as well as Richardson of Borrisokane, Tipperary. Interesting thread on the research bit, wish we had more time for Dublin but we are limited to 8 days to touring Co. Wicklow and Co. Tipperary for this trip. Charlene ----- Original Message ----- From: Mary Villalba<mailto:estre68132@msn.com> To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: April 3, 2006 4:18 PM Subject: RE: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-MATHEW KENNEDY/BYRNE I'm hoping to have a trip over in late Sept. or Oct....anyone else going at that time? m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." >From: "Barbara BABBITT" <mhsnj60@msn.com<mailto:mhsnj60@msn.com>> >Reply-To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >Subject: RE: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-MATHEW KENNEDY/BYRNE >Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 10:06:36 -0700 > >Hi Peggy, > >Thanks for that information. I was wondering though....you had said there >were two families running concurrently with the same names and children. >How do go about trying to determine which is the right family? > >I wish I could meet up with you too! This is my first trip and I'm >learning, thanks to all the help I'm getting on this list. > >Thanks again! I'll keep you posted. > >Barb - AZ > > >>From: WeadickResearch@aol.com<mailto:WeadickResearch@aol.com> >>Reply-To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >>To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> >>Subject: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-MATHEW KENNEDY/BYRNE >>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:16:22 EDT >> >>Hi Barbara >> >>If you're going to the National Library in Dublin, >>that marriage record for Mathew Kennedy/Mary Byrne in 1843 was >>transcribed >>from Microfilm #6476 - Rathdrum Parish. >>Pity you're not going over in July. We could meet up. >> >>Good luck and enjoy yourself! >>Peggy Leonard >> >> >> >> >>==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >>WARNING QUARANTINE The Listers on this list been stricken with GENEALOGY >>FEVER >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx> >> > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >You rub the magic lamp and to your wondrous eyes a magical genie appears.He >agrees to grant you one wish!Without a second thought, >you ask him to repair every parish register that is missing. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx> > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== Co Wicklow the Garden of Ireland. ============================== View and search Historical Newspapers. Read about your ancestors, find marriage announcements and more. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13969/rd.ashx>

GDAY:) Im In Australia Researching My Direct Line of CLENDINNEN /CLENDINNING Thru Ireland. Wondering is anyone Researching the Name and Also looking for the Following Information on this Family JOHN WHEELER Married MARIANNE CLENDINNEN 26/October/1870 Found 2 Children For them So Far on IGI, Both Born Co Wicklow Anne Amelia Frances Wheeler .08 MAR 1873 , Wicklow, Ireland .Eleanor Louisa Wheeler ...31 OCT 1874 , Wicklow, Ireland Apparently there was a 3rd Child too, But cant Locate them Wondering if Possible if anyone can Locate marriages for these 3 children, and is anyone researching these Families Thankyou Regards Cathy:) Send instant messages to your online friends http://au.messenger.yahoo.com

I'm hoping to have a trip over in late Sept. or Oct....anyone else going at that time? m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications 303-290-8415 Tele Distinguished Governor Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International 2003-2004 "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." >From: "Barbara BABBITT" <mhsnj60@msn.com> >Reply-To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: RE: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-MATHEW KENNEDY/BYRNE >Date: Mon, 03 Apr 2006 10:06:36 -0700 > >Hi Peggy, > >Thanks for that information. I was wondering though....you had said there >were two families running concurrently with the same names and children. >How do go about trying to determine which is the right family? > >I wish I could meet up with you too! This is my first trip and I'm >learning, thanks to all the help I'm getting on this list. > >Thanks again! I'll keep you posted. > >Barb - AZ > > >>From: WeadickResearch@aol.com >>Reply-To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >>To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >>Subject: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-MATHEW KENNEDY/BYRNE >>Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:16:22 EDT >> >>Hi Barbara >> >>If you're going to the National Library in Dublin, >>that marriage record for Mathew Kennedy/Mary Byrne in 1843 was >>transcribed >>from Microfilm #6476 - Rathdrum Parish. >>Pity you're not going over in July. We could meet up. >> >>Good luck and enjoy yourself! >>Peggy Leonard >> >> >> >> >>==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >>WARNING QUARANTINE The Listers on this list been stricken with GENEALOGY >>FEVER >> >>============================== >>Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >>areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >>Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >> > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >You rub the magic lamp and to your wondrous eyes a magical genie appears.He >agrees to grant you one wish!Without a second thought, >you ask him to repair every parish register that is missing. > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Peggy, Thanks for that information. I was wondering though....you had said there were two families running concurrently with the same names and children. How do go about trying to determine which is the right family? I wish I could meet up with you too! This is my first trip and I'm learning, thanks to all the help I'm getting on this list. Thanks again! I'll keep you posted. Barb - AZ >From: WeadickResearch@aol.com >Reply-To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com >Subject: [Wicklow] Re: IRL-WICKLOW-MATHEW KENNEDY/BYRNE >Date: Mon, 3 Apr 2006 09:16:22 EDT > >Hi Barbara > >If you're going to the National Library in Dublin, >that marriage record for Mathew Kennedy/Mary Byrne in 1843 was transcribed >from Microfilm #6476 - Rathdrum Parish. >Pity you're not going over in July. We could meet up. > >Good luck and enjoy yourself! >Peggy Leonard > > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >WARNING QUARANTINE The Listers on this list been stricken with GENEALOGY >FEVER > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx >

Hi Barbara If you're going to the National Library in Dublin, that marriage record for Mathew Kennedy/Mary Byrne in 1843 was transcribed from Microfilm #6476 - Rathdrum Parish. Pity you're not going over in July. We could meet up. Good luck and enjoy yourself! Peggy Leonard

These stones are all from Ballintemple Co Wicklow Ireland and as up to date as I am able to be at this time 2005......These are RC stones. I have a current listing of 58 headstones in this graveyard that are recorded now, so what others names are you interested in ---------- 1. LEACY: Erected by Paurick Leacy in memory of his wife Mary Leacy who departed the 22nd January 1810 aged 52 years Lord have mercy on her soul Amen Also the body of the above named Paurick Leacy who departed this life the ..of..181...aged.years (Remainder of inscription under ground) 41: AYRES & BYRNE Gloria in Excelsis Deo Erected by Thomas Ayres of Ballynabanouge in memory of his beloved mother Elizabeth Ayres who died in the 95 th year of her age and Patrick Byrne who died 15 October 1901 aged 92 years Requiescant in Pace 49: LEACY: This f tone was erected by Timity Leacy for him f elf and in memory of his po f terity. Lord have mercy on their f ouls Amen (Long s "f " used on this stone: Not used when s is the final letter of the word.) Cheers from Cara

I read all these messages but none of them pertain to my Byrne family. So....I will restate since there is so much Byrne activity. My family is James Byrne and Honora Ralph Byrne in Wicklow whose 3 sons Michael, John and Patrick came to Canada, possibly Nova Scotia in approx 1840. Michael was born in 1815. He married Elizabeth Lawler of Co Kilkenny prior to coming to Canada. Approx 1855 he moved to northern New York State. Would love any information if this sounds familiar. Kathy

I have a Mary recorded as being baptised 27 December 1821 at Ballynamanoge. Her parents were Thomas Byrne and Sarah Ryan. This is taken from the Baptismal records and she is not in my tree although I do have some Byrnes. Hope that this helps as a possible match. Marion -----Original Message----- From: Sharon Kavanagh [mailto:kavanagh@99webstreet.com] Sent: April 2, 2006 1:33 PM To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Byrne Well, I was hoping I could help you but Rathdrum is pretty far from Hacketstown RC parish/Kiltegan civil parish (where our Byrnes were from). It's very pretty around Rathdrum (maybe you already know that). Especially liked Meeting of the Waters, below Rathdrum. Enjoy planning your trip. Hope you find those Byrnes. Sharon At 02:21 PM 4/2/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Sharon, > >My gg-grandmother was Mary Burns/Byrne b. abt. 1823. She married Matthew >Kennedy b. abt. 1820 in Ireland. According to his gravestone, he was "of >Rathdrum Parrish, County Wicklow, Ireland. The children of Matthew and >Mary are Catherine b. 5 Jun 1845, Mary b. abt. 1850, Michael b. 17 Sept >1850, Thomas 1853, Lawrence 1856, Patrick, 1858. According to the >immigration list there was also a John born abt. 1859 which isn't listed >on any of the US census reports. I do have some information of the Byrnes >from Peggy (Weadick Research) She indicated that a Matthew Kennedy/Mary >Byrne had twins, Matthew and Laurence b. 1856) however the dates don't >match my Lawrence. So I'm not sure if I have correct family although >there were children born with similar names. They were Catholic. > >It seems there are several Matthew Kennedy's and Mary Byrne's that married >and children with similar names. > >Mary immigrated 12 Aug 1869 with Mary, Patrick, Thomas and Lawrence to the >US, New Jersey and settled in the Wharton area. Matthew and Michael did >not and I can't locate them anywhere. Catherine went to England, married >a William Vickers, She immigrated in 1864. William Vickers was from >Seven Churches. > >I'm not sure of the Townland. One record states Ballinafunshogue and one >was Glenmalur. It's a puzzle. > >Peggy was just great helping me but now that I'm going to Ireland I wish I >had information about Matthew and Mary's parents. I plan on going to the >Nat'l Library. Hoping this will turn up more info. > >Thanks for asking! If you can offer any words of advise I am open to >suggestion. > >Barbara Kennedy Babbitt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sharon Kavanagh<mailto:kavanagh@99webstreet.com> > To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Byrne > > > Barb - Who are/were your Wicklow Byrnes? Do you know their townland? When > did they migrate and to where? What religion? What kind of information do > you seek about Byrne surname in Co.Wicklow? > Sharon > > > At 07:18 PM 4/1/2006 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > > >I am finally going to Ireland May 30th. I am planning on doing some > >research on my Kennedy/Byrne family at the National Library and in > Wicklow > >while I'm there. Any advise or information would be most helpful. > > > >Thanks > > > >Barb > > > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > >WARNING QUARANTINE The Listers on this list been stricken with GENEALOGY > >FEVER > > > >============================== > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ash x> > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > You find your family in the census and write to the county where they > lived for 40 years, only to receive a letter stating all the county > records burned > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ash x> > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >Genealogy is not fatal, but it is a grave disease. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== WARNING QUARANTINE The Listers on this list been stricken with GENEALOGY FEVER ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Well, I was hoping I could help you but Rathdrum is pretty far from Hacketstown RC parish/Kiltegan civil parish (where our Byrnes were from). It's very pretty around Rathdrum (maybe you already know that). Especially liked Meeting of the Waters, below Rathdrum. Enjoy planning your trip. Hope you find those Byrnes. Sharon At 02:21 PM 4/2/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Hi Sharon, > >My gg-grandmother was Mary Burns/Byrne b. abt. 1823. She married Matthew >Kennedy b. abt. 1820 in Ireland. According to his gravestone, he was "of >Rathdrum Parrish, County Wicklow, Ireland. The children of Matthew and >Mary are Catherine b. 5 Jun 1845, Mary b. abt. 1850, Michael b. 17 Sept >1850, Thomas 1853, Lawrence 1856, Patrick, 1858. According to the >immigration list there was also a John born abt. 1859 which isn't listed >on any of the US census reports. I do have some information of the Byrnes >from Peggy (Weadick Research) She indicated that a Matthew Kennedy/Mary >Byrne had twins, Matthew and Laurence b. 1856) however the dates don't >match my Lawrence. So I'm not sure if I have correct family although >there were children born with similar names. They were Catholic. > >It seems there are several Matthew Kennedy's and Mary Byrne's that married >and children with similar names. > >Mary immigrated 12 Aug 1869 with Mary, Patrick, Thomas and Lawrence to the >US, New Jersey and settled in the Wharton area. Matthew and Michael did >not and I can't locate them anywhere. Catherine went to England, married >a William Vickers, She immigrated in 1864. William Vickers was from >Seven Churches. > >I'm not sure of the Townland. One record states Ballinafunshogue and one >was Glenmalur. It's a puzzle. > >Peggy was just great helping me but now that I'm going to Ireland I wish I >had information about Matthew and Mary's parents. I plan on going to the >Nat'l Library. Hoping this will turn up more info. > >Thanks for asking! If you can offer any words of advise I am open to >suggestion. > >Barbara Kennedy Babbitt > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Sharon Kavanagh<mailto:kavanagh@99webstreet.com> > To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:17 PM > Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Byrne > > > Barb - Who are/were your Wicklow Byrnes? Do you know their townland? When > did they migrate and to where? What religion? What kind of information do > you seek about Byrne surname in Co.Wicklow? > Sharon > > > At 07:18 PM 4/1/2006 -0700, you wrote: > >Hello List, > > > >I am finally going to Ireland May 30th. I am planning on doing some > >research on my Kennedy/Byrne family at the National Library and in > Wicklow > >while I'm there. Any advise or information would be most helpful. > > > >Thanks > > > >Barb > > > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > >WARNING QUARANTINE The Listers on this list been stricken with GENEALOGY > >FEVER > > > >============================== > >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the > >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. > >Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx> > > > ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== > You find your family in the census and write to the county where they > lived for 40 years, only to receive a letter stating all the county > records burned > > ============================== > Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the > last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: > http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx> > > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >Genealogy is not fatal, but it is a grave disease. > >============================== >Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the >last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: >http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx

Hi Sharon, My gg-grandmother was Mary Burns/Byrne b. abt. 1823. She married Matthew Kennedy b. abt. 1820 in Ireland. According to his gravestone, he was "of Rathdrum Parrish, County Wicklow, Ireland. The children of Matthew and Mary are Catherine b. 5 Jun 1845, Mary b. abt. 1850, Michael b. 17 Sept 1850, Thomas 1853, Lawrence 1856, Patrick, 1858. According to the immigration list there was also a John born abt. 1859 which isn't listed on any of the US census reports. I do have some information of the Byrnes from Peggy (Weadick Research) She indicated that a Matthew Kennedy/Mary Byrne had twins, Matthew and Laurence b. 1856) however the dates don't match my Lawrence. So I'm not sure if I have correct family although there were children born with similar names. They were Catholic. It seems there are several Matthew Kennedy's and Mary Byrne's that married and children with similar names. Mary immigrated 12 Aug 1869 with Mary, Patrick, Thomas and Lawrence to the US, New Jersey and settled in the Wharton area. Matthew and Michael did not and I can't locate them anywhere. Catherine went to England, married a William Vickers, She immigrated in 1864. William Vickers was from Seven Churches. I'm not sure of the Townland. One record states Ballinafunshogue and one was Glenmalur. It's a puzzle. Peggy was just great helping me but now that I'm going to Ireland I wish I had information about Matthew and Mary's parents. I plan on going to the Nat'l Library. Hoping this will turn up more info. Thanks for asking! If you can offer any words of advise I am open to suggestion. Barbara Kennedy Babbitt ----- Original Message ----- From: Sharon Kavanagh<mailto:kavanagh@99webstreet.com> To: IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com<mailto:IRL-WICKLOW-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 02, 2006 1:17 PM Subject: Re: [Wicklow] Byrne Barb - Who are/were your Wicklow Byrnes? Do you know their townland? When did they migrate and to where? What religion? What kind of information do you seek about Byrne surname in Co.Wicklow? Sharon At 07:18 PM 4/1/2006 -0700, you wrote: >Hello List, > >I am finally going to Ireland May 30th. I am planning on doing some >research on my Kennedy/Byrne family at the National Library and in Wicklow >while I'm there. Any advise or information would be most helpful. > >Thanks > >Barb > > >==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== >WARNING QUARANTINE The Listers on this list been stricken with GENEALOGY >FEVER > >============================== >Search Family and Local Histories for stories about your family and the >areas they lived. Over 85 million names added in the last 12 months. >Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13966/rd.ashx> ==== IRL-WICKLOW Mailing List ==== You find your family in the census and write to the county where they lived for 40 years, only to receive a letter stating all the county records burned ============================== Search the US Census Collection. Over 140 million records added in the last 12 months. Largest online collection in the world. Learn more: http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx<http://www.ancestry.com/s13965/rd.ashx>