Hi all I have no info on the parents or place of birth for Michael O'CONNOR, family talk was that they came from Co Cork but I can only place them in Wicklow any info on this family would be appreciated. Regards Elaine Timothy Michael O'CONNOR & Bridget (nee BYRNE) married August 4th 1830 Rathdrum, R.C. Witnesses Dan BYRNE & Winny BYRNE Children Mary June 10 1831 Rathdrum James July 1835 Drumgoff Winifred November 1838 Drumgoff Catherine October 16 1841 Drumgoff Michael June 23 1844 Drumgoff Patrick November 1 1846 Drumgoff Bridget July 16 1848 Drumgoff Timothy May 4 1851 Glenmalur William February 19 1856 Barravore

Hi Cara, I did in fact write to the Dunlavin parish earlier last year to inquire re records. I was informed that there were no records for the name I was searching for. It may always remain a mystery. I have sent to PRONI for Thomas' marriage records to Charlotte Ennis in Antrim. Hopefully, that will tell me his parents names. Thanks for your help Cara. I do hope that you are feeling better and it always nice to see your name in my inbox. I always know your emails will contain helpful info. Regards, Jane Liewah Station Moulamein nsw 2733 AUSTRALIA -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Sunday, 4 January 2009 7:24 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] baptism record for Thomas McEvoy - 1831 Well he does not belong to me but now you have a year etc, cant you write to the Dunlavin Church and ask for someone to look at the register for you and give you concise staetement for having sighted the record, allowing that what the hand writes is not always what the eye sees, meaning, I myself love to pride that I write it down correctly, but sometimes when double checking, I note I have written in the wrong parents, and sometimes, you have to allow some of these records come from the oldest messiest writing and filing system anyone wished to cast their eyes across, in fact I am sure the priest or the clerk or the preists housekeeper or whoever kept the records simply took a fowls foot and dipped it in ink and wrote with that. So I think if you have a doubt as to parentage and perhaps have another document that may give you another name, for parents write to the man who guards the books and ask him to look, you have the date surely that is correct!!! Nothing ventured nothing gained. Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Sullivan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:02 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] baptism record for Thomas McEvoy - 1831 >I have found on Wicklow Family History Centre's online search a baptism for > a Thomas McEvoy. > > > > The date of baptism is given as 31/07/1831. > > > > Father's name- David McEvoy > > > > Mother's name - Margaret > > > > Sponsor 1 - James Healy > > > > Sponsor 2 - Ellen Ryan > > > > I do not know if it is MY Thomas McEvoy. The mother's name is different > to > the info I have, the father's name is the same, as is the place - > Dunlavin. > Does this Thomas belong to anyone you know? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Jane > > > > Liewah Station > > Moulamein > > nsw 2733 > > AUSTRALIA > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message ---------------------------------------------------------------------------- ---- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: 28/12/2008 2:23 PM *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Cara 'Pure Irish' is a bottle of Jamieson Millenium Irish Whiskey which could cost up to €300 ! An expensive tipple ! Will keep a whacker for you next time ure in Dublin. Glad to hear your good today and getting better. Cheers..........Golding

Now, come on, Cara .. I did put the word in '...'. And one of the grand-daughters did become Mother General of the religious order she entered. He married a Murphy AND his mother was Mary Bryne/s. How more Irish can you get? It seems to me that, to some people, the Irish naming tradition is "writ in stone" and applies to all families in Ireland, regardless of their roots. If only .. Being named after a house is an interesting concept. There's a house near me called The Crumbles. Think it suits me to a T. Have you heard of a book called McCarthy's Bars - a sort of travelogue of Ireland with the focus on the numerous bars/hotels by that name. My younger son, who had read the book, went to Ireland a few years ago - his mission to find as many Thady's Bars as possible. I suppose he might like to have been called after a bar, but more likely he wanted to show his piccies and tell people the bars were named after him. And no chance of a bit of family history research on the side - But they're all dead, Mum! My very best wishes for 2009, Cara. May you have more and more 'feeling good' days. Regards Barbara

Maurie I have to ask *Pure Irish from Wicklow"? I love it but what is Pure Irish from Wicklow ? does this mean your family were gardeners, as Wicklow is the County for Gardens or does it mean your family never stepped in or out of Wicklow whilst marrying etc? I got to know this cos my other half is pure Irish Arklow Wicklow, and your spin on the statement may hold the clue to me unravelling what makes him tick tock.............. Ahh I am smiling here And I also question the Irish or even Scottish or Gaelic naming pattern, cos I can assure you what I think they were named was changed at Baptism, so if you want an Edward, John or Michael a dash of Patrick and a thousand Dorothy's let me adopt you into the Toole line and then to make it just as hard they named all the Byrnes lines the same as well...........you are more than welcome. I once read on this list where a lister said Terence Byrne now that has to be a rare one, oh dear if only that was true. All naming is questionable- the priest was given a list of names to encourage his congregation to use, and if a child was born close to a saints birthday and I might add their is saints birthday almost every day in Ireland- they were named for that as well so if you are going to use this Irish pattern of birth naming you better have enough family members left to use the name- Ahh I am lucky for indeed my own name is passed down through our family for years, I even have a house named after me, and then whilst in Wexford I found another named after me so there you have it- Perhaps our family is just wee bit different we were named after ancestors and houses. And I am feeling good today must be all those prayers and good wishes thanks to all who sent me one.........or just simply said a prayer.........not better just feeling good today. Cara

Well he does not belong to me but now you have a year etc, cant you write to the Dunlavin Church and ask for someone to look at the register for you and give you concise staetement for having sighted the record, allowing that what the hand writes is not always what the eye sees, meaning, I myself love to pride that I write it down correctly, but sometimes when double checking, I note I have written in the wrong parents, and sometimes, you have to allow some of these records come from the oldest messiest writing and filing system anyone wished to cast their eyes across, in fact I am sure the priest or the clerk or the preists housekeeper or whoever kept the records simply took a fowls foot and dipped it in ink and wrote with that. So I think if you have a doubt as to parentage and perhaps have another document that may give you another name, for parents write to the man who guards the books and ask him to look, you have the date surely that is correct!!! Nothing ventured nothing gained. Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Sullivan" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, January 02, 2009 11:02 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] baptism record for Thomas McEvoy - 1831 >I have found on Wicklow Family History Centre's online search a baptism for > a Thomas McEvoy. > > > > The date of baptism is given as 31/07/1831. > > > > Father's name- David McEvoy > > > > Mother's name - Margaret > > > > Sponsor 1 - James Healy > > > > Sponsor 2 - Ellen Ryan > > > > I do not know if it is MY Thomas McEvoy. The mother's name is different > to > the info I have, the father's name is the same, as is the place - > Dunlavin. > Does this Thomas belong to anyone you know? > > > > Thanks. > > > > Jane > > > > Liewah Station > > Moulamein > > nsw 2733 > > AUSTRALIA > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- Internal Virus Database is out of date. Checked by AVG - http://www.avg.com Version: 8.0.176 / Virus Database: 270.10.1/1867 - Release Date: 28/12/2008 2:23 PM

Looking for a little help today. Catherine Hipwell or Hipple b.1857 - d. March 24, 1920. Parents John Hipwell/Hipple and Catherine Hayden Married John Murphy b.1854 - d. Dec 7, 1913 I have two documents. Birth Certificate of daughter Elizabeth Murphy shows mother's maiden name as Hipwell. Baptism Certificate of son James shows mother's maiden name as Hipple. Old scribblings from the archive (the brown cardboard suitcase) read Hipple or Hipwell. All are from Little Bray. Thanks. Mike.

Hi, I thought I saw a reference on the list recently about Avoca Mine Employee Lists. I attempted to find this reference in the archives but my skills are no match for the task. Did I see this? Can anyone point me in the right direction? Thank you, Martin in Sydney *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Maurie I wish it was easy to my family but i have also found Looking for Ann i have found them called Rose Ann and Mary Ann on the Death certificate it has Ann try and find the birth so usually lose a few credits on Scotland's People then find out They were Rose or Mary for someone like me that is not that good at searching can be very daunting at times .and make Scotland's people very rich but i must it admit they are also very good . Kind regards jean On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 6:42 AM, Maurie O'Connor <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jean and David, > > I've got 'pure' Irish from Wicklow (who more or less seemed to following the > traditional Irish naming pattern - but who were sons 3 and 4 named after?) > and Irish-English from Tipperary (who didn't). And a g-g-grandmother from > Wicklow who falls into the NBI category but whose surname suggests Cornish > origins. I was curious about Scottish naming traditions, so Googled it. > > This rather lengthy explanation is from > http://www.halmyre.abel.co.uk/Family/naming.htm > > First son is named for the Father's Father. > Second son is named for the Mother's Father. > Third son is named for the Father's Father's Father. > Fourth son is named for the Mother's Mother's Father. > Fifth son is named for the Father's Mother's Father. > Sixth son is named for the Mother's Father's Father. > Seventh through Tenth sons are named for the Father's Great-Grandfathers. > Tenth through Fourteenth sons for the Mother's Great-Grandfathers. > First daughter is named for the Mother's Mother. > Second daughter is named for the Father's Mother. > Third daughter is named for the Mother's Father's Mother. > Fourth daughter is named for the Father's Father's Mother. > Fifth daughter is named for the Mother's Mother's Mother. > Sixth daughter is named for the Father's Mother's Mother. > Seventh through tenth daughters are named for the Mother's > Great-Grandmothers. > Tenth through fourteenth daughters for the Father's Great-Grandmothers. > > NOTES: > > In some cases you will find that the order is reversed with the first and > second children, i.e. the first-born son being named after the mother's > father and the second-born son after the father's father. If this is the > case then the daughters are also usually reversed. > > You will also find instances where a child is named 'out of pattern', after > an aunt or uncle who has died, or after an admired other relative or friend > of the parent. > > If a child dies in infancy, his or her name is often given to a subsequent > child - a natural consequence of the high birth rate and infant mortality > rates of past times. > > These are only general guidelines and were certainly not always followed. > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

Hi Dave Thank you very much for posting that i did find that once all my uncles were William but when you go back to very first born William his father was John . Kind regards jean On Sat, Jan 3, 2009 at 9:01 AM, David Griffiths <[email protected]> wrote: > Some years back, when stated learning about my ancestors, Manning of > Ballyteigue, Rathdrum Co Wicklow, Ireland, I was introduced to naming > pattern. > My gt. grandfather was named William, he had been given this christian name > on the death of his oldest brother who had died just before he was born. > Who was my gt. grandfathers father ? I said William, for if the 1st son, > William was named after the father's father, this would mean my Gt Gt > grandfather's christian name was William, but no. later found that my gt > grandfather married twice, his first born son was named George, therefore > GtGt granddad name was George. > All this was verified my his will > > A trap for the new. > > Dave > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

Some years back, when stated learning about my ancestors, Manning of Ballyteigue, Rathdrum Co Wicklow, Ireland, I was introduced to naming pattern. My gt. grandfather was named William, he had been given this christian name on the death of his oldest brother who had died just before he was born. Who was my gt. grandfathers father ? I said William, for if the 1st son, William was named after the father's father, this would mean my Gt Gt grandfather's christian name was William, but no. later found that my gt grandfather married twice, his first born son was named George, therefore GtGt granddad name was George. All this was verified my his will A trap for the new. Dave

Hi Jean and David, I've got 'pure' Irish from Wicklow (who more or less seemed to following the traditional Irish naming pattern - but who were sons 3 and 4 named after?) and Irish-English from Tipperary (who didn't). And a g-g-grandmother from Wicklow who falls into the NBI category but whose surname suggests Cornish origins. I was curious about Scottish naming traditions, so Googled it. This rather lengthy explanation is from http://www.halmyre.abel.co.uk/Family/naming.htm First son is named for the Father's Father. Second son is named for the Mother's Father. Third son is named for the Father's Father's Father. Fourth son is named for the Mother's Mother's Father. Fifth son is named for the Father's Mother's Father. Sixth son is named for the Mother's Father's Father. Seventh through Tenth sons are named for the Father's Great-Grandfathers. Tenth through Fourteenth sons for the Mother's Great-Grandfathers. First daughter is named for the Mother's Mother. Second daughter is named for the Father's Mother. Third daughter is named for the Mother's Father's Mother. Fourth daughter is named for the Father's Father's Mother. Fifth daughter is named for the Mother's Mother's Mother. Sixth daughter is named for the Father's Mother's Mother. Seventh through tenth daughters are named for the Mother's Great-Grandmothers. Tenth through fourteenth daughters for the Father's Great-Grandmothers. NOTES: In some cases you will find that the order is reversed with the first and second children, i.e. the first-born son being named after the mother's father and the second-born son after the father's father. If this is the case then the daughters are also usually reversed. You will also find instances where a child is named 'out of pattern', after an aunt or uncle who has died, or after an admired other relative or friend of the parent. If a child dies in infancy, his or her name is often given to a subsequent child - a natural consequence of the high birth rate and infant mortality rates of past times. These are only general guidelines and were certainly not always followed.

Dear Jean Old, There is a way to establish Irish families parent names. It does need to be tested, " Old Irish Naming Patterns" Sons 1st son was named after the father's father 2nd son was named after the mother's father 3rd son was named after the father 4th son was named after the father's eldest brother Daughters 1st daughter was named after the mother's mother 2nd daughter was named after the father's mother 3rd daughter was named after the mother 4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister Once you have checked that your ancestors used the naming pattern, you have the name of their parents. Not all families willwork out the same. Good luck Dave

Hi Dave I think do work on that pattern I have John McShane marry Maryann McCann they had a son John i dont know if he had any siblings But my gg granfather was John McShane and he Had John Arthur Hugh Henry. Daniel Patrick Isabella I know where Isabella came from there mother was Isabella Rafferty could then this mean GG grandad could have had brothers by these names My problem is now trying to find them i know gg grand dad was born in Lurgan . One they are in Scotland i am fine . My grand dad was Daniel and he called his sons Daniel John and Henry . Thank you very much Dave . On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 6:39 PM, David Griffiths <[email protected]> wrote: > Dear Jean Old, > There is a way to establish Irish families parent names. > It does need to be tested, > " Old Irish Naming Patterns" > Sons > 1st son was named after the father's father > 2nd son was named after the mother's father > 3rd son was named after the father > 4th son was named after the father's eldest brother > > Daughters > 1st daughter was named after the mother's mother > 2nd daughter was named after the father's mother > 3rd daughter was named after the mother > 4th daughter was named after the mother's eldest sister > > Once you have checked that your ancestors used the naming pattern, you have > the name of their parents. > Not all families willwork out the same. > Good luck > Dave > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

Hi Thank very much this its very interesting . My family are very hard to find over there it would really make my day the day i find them but i dont think so unless someone else is looking for them its hard to when you dont know theire parents names i also have McCann as well . Take care Kind regards jean On Fri, Jan 2, 2009 at 2:28 AM, GOLDING KIDD <[email protected]> wrote: > Jean........ (Aussie - Springbok !) > > Greetings for New Year > I'm just doodling............ > > Note your ancestors Origins > McShane (yr maiden name ) Mayo > Thornton Mayo > McHale Mayo > Brogan Mayo > > Auld Scotland > Old (husband) Cornwall > > I thought I saw the name Old in the records of Mining > employees at Avoca mines in Co Wicklow. However > I am unable to access the site today to check at > http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ > > I have a friend Edie Oldham (age 100) with great faculties > I understand there is a town of Oldham in greater Manchester > England > > You have probably Googled 'Auld' which is interesting ! > There are lots more names Internet - a wonderful resource > and McShane has some colourful coats of arms. ! > Best wishes in your research > Golding > > Surname: Auld > This unusual surname is of Anglo-Saxon origin, and is derived from the > Middle English (1200 - 1500) "old", from the Olde English pre 7th Century > "eald", meaning old. The word was probably used as a nickname, not > necessarily implying old age, but rather used to distinguish an older from a > younger bearer of the same given name. A sizeable group of early European > surnames were gradually created from the habitual use of nicknames. The > nicknames were given in the first instance with reference to a variety of > characteristics, such as physical attributes or peculiarities, mental and > moral characteristics, supposed resemblance to an animal's or bird's > appearance or disposition, habits of dress, and occupation. The modern > surname can also be found as Old, Ould, Ault, Aude, Olman and Oldman. The > marriage was recorded in London of James Auld and Margarett Brown, on > September 18th 1694 at St. James', Dukes Place. A Coat of Arms granted to > the family is ermine on a chief red two griffins respecting each other > silver, the Crest being a cherub's head proper wings in saltire. The Motto > "Virtute et constantia" translates as "By valour and constancy". The first > recorded spelling of the family name is shown to be that of Wulfstan Ealda, > which was dated 1060, in the "Old English Bynames", Kent, during the reign > of King Edward, known as "The Confessor", 1042 - 1066. Surnames became > necessary when governments introduced personal taxation. In England this was > known as Poll Tax. Throughout the centuries, surnames in every country have > continued to "develop" often leading to astonishing variants of the original > spelling. > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

I have found on Wicklow Family History Centre's online search a baptism for a Thomas McEvoy. The date of baptism is given as 31/07/1831. Father's name- David McEvoy Mother's name - Margaret Sponsor 1 - James Healy Sponsor 2 - Ellen Ryan I do not know if it is MY Thomas McEvoy. The mother's name is different to the info I have, the father's name is the same, as is the place - Dunlavin. Does this Thomas belong to anyone you know? Thanks. Jane Liewah Station Moulamein nsw 2733 AUSTRALIA

Christina This is a great little website that I was unaware of - thank you. I found 6 people for my CONDRAN one-name study. Michael > Valerie, > You can do a basic search for these at the Boston College website: > http://infowanted.bc.edu/ > Regards, > Christina Michael Thompson [email protected] http://freepages.genealogy.rootsweb.com/~condran

Due to some computer glitch, the IGP sites were down for a couple of days. For those of you who were trying use the site, I wanted you to know we are back. http://www.igp-web.com/ & http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Thanks, Christina

Very good Regards jean in (Aussie) On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 11:45 AM, Roger Bury <[email protected]> wrote: > Happy New Year > > And a bit of irish humor... > > An Irish man shows up in a pub one day and orders three pints of Guinness. > He takes sips from each glass until they are empty and calls the bartender > for three more. The bartender says, 'Sure it's up to yourself, but wouldn't > you rather I was bringing them one at a time? Then they'll be fresh and > cold.' > 'Nah...' your man says, ' I'm preferrin' that ye bring 'em three at a time. > You see, me and me two brothers would meet at a pub and drink and have good > times. Now one is in Australia, the other in Canada and I'm here. We agreed > before we split up that we'd drink to each other's honour this way.' > 'Well,' says the bartender, 'that's a grand thing to do, all right. I'll > bring the pints as you ask.' > Well, time goes on and your man's peculiar habit is known and accepted by > all the pub regulars. One day though, he comes in and orders only two pints. > A hush falls over the pub. Naturally, everyone figures something happened to > one of the brothers. A group of the regulars corner the bartender and > finally persuade him to find out what happened. With a heavy heart, the > bartender brings the two pints and says, 'Here's your pints... and let me > offer my sincerest condolences. What happened?' > The Irish man looks extremely puzzled for a moment, and then starts > laughing. > 'Oh, no, no, no! 'Tis nothing like that. You see, I've given up drinking for > Lent...' > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean

Hi Golding Thank you for that it would make easier if had asked mum and dad when they were around the one thing i do know MY McShane, Thornton Mchale and Brogan all came from Mayo so that is something i even have 3rd cousins still living there they live out on a farm and they are not into looking for family mores the pity i could keep \ them busy for weeks LOL I was born in Govan my maiden name is McShane there is also Auld in Scotland and funny i am related to them My husband Old family they came from Cornwall England .My sister inlaw who has looked into the Old side said they are most likely all related it just some are spelt different . Well i hope you have a great New year i always read Cara site she does a great job . Kind regards jean (Aussie) On Thu, Jan 1, 2009 at 1:16 AM, GOLDING KIDD <[email protected]> wrote: > Hi Jean > I know it's tough trying to trace but it takes a lot > of patience and perseverence . I have seen the name Old in > my research and I believe it was on the Wicklow Cemetery > lists or text. Will keep a note as I browse again but you > may also do some browsing - if not done already. Other > associated names would be useful too. > That is a nice message from Cara ......the words roll off her > (tongue) pen like a poets but then having so much association > and being influenced by the beautiful Vale of Avoca immortalised > by Thomas Moore one would expect those poetical utterances . > Thank you Cara and you are wished a healthy and happy > New Year after your eventful 2008. > So looking forward to giving you a leg up Jean during 2009 > Seasons greetings > Golding > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "jean old" <[email protected]> > To: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Cc: <[email protected]> > Sent: Wednesday, December 31, 2008 10:07 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] NEW YEAR ROLLS AROUND > > >> Hi >> Even though i dont know if any of my ancestors came from Wicklow >> they did come from ireland like everyone else still searching makes it >> hard though >> when you dont know which part LOL for some of us its only three hours >> away. I will have a cuppa tea. >> HAPPY NEW YEAR TO EVERYONE >> Kindest regards jean (Aussie) >> >> On Wed, Dec 31, 2008 at 8:48 PM, Cara_Links <[email protected]> wrote: > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > -- Kind regards Jean