Is this the one you are looking for? https://brsgenealogy.com/ifhf/register.php Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:21 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] URL for History Foundation online > For we who missed it, would you please report the valuable web address for > the > History Foundation online? Thanks! > > **************Who's never won? Biggest Grammy Award surprises of all time > on > AOL Music. > (http://music.aol.com/grammys/pictures/never-won-a-grammy?ncid=emlcntusmusi00000003) > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.19/1939 - Release Date: 02/06/09 17:28:00

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Hi Maureen, I'm looking at my Avoca Baptisms and I notice that almost all of them, in a time frame from about 1795 to 1810, and even later, the mother's name is the same as the father's. As I'm scrolling down the alphabetical list, I'm thinking, the maiden names weren't recorded then with any frequency. Peggy In a message dated 2/6/2009 3:28:58 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: DANIEL KAVANAGH **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e)

Hi Peggy, Here is a my response to the original posting - "My Daniel, Blacksmith, was born c.1807 "Wicklow" to James Kavanagh & Mary Byrne/Byrnes/Burns (the latter as recorded in Australia) - married Margaret Murphy c.1834 at Glendalough - listed on Griffiths Valuation as renting house & forge at Coolbeg (Glenealy), where at least one daughter was born c.1847 - family came to Australia 1858." Family was Catholic and the family either paid their own passage to Australia, or had it paid for them. Based on their travel to, and in, Australia, I strongly suspect they had family (Murphys perhaps??) in West Maitland, NSW. They obviously knew exactly where they were heading and didn't waste any time getting there. Regards Barbara

What you have is a transcript from a database. It may say civil birth record - but it is not an original copy. An official Civil birth record does not record sponsors. The headings of an official civil birth record has the following headings - Births Registered in the District of - In the Union of- in the County of - Date and place of birth - Name (if any) - Sex - Name and Surname and Dwelling Place of Father - Name and Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother - Rank or Profession of Father - Signature, Qualification and Residence of Informant - When Registered - Signature of Registrar - Baptismal Name if added after Registration of Birth and Date - So as Paul Gorry states there is never a record of sponsors on civil birth records. I would reckon that the transcript you have - has mistakenly titled the informant of the birth as the sponsor. The informant was often the mother or the father - so it is likely in this case that the father was the informant. Jane On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, fosborne <[email protected]> wrote: > What I have is the document one receives from the Irish Family History > Foundation > on line at www.brsgenealogy.com for the price of 5 Euro. The title is > "Civil Birth > Record for John Darcy." I think that Cara may have provided the correct > reply. > > Frank > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "p.jpcollins" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:48 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > May I suggest that this sound more like a baptismal record > > Regards Peter Collins > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:47 PM > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > > Frank, > > > > > > Whatever that is you're looking at, it's not a civil birth record. > > > There > > > is no such thing as a sponsor on a civil record of birth. Is there a > > > heading "Sponsor" on it? Where did you get it? > > > > > > Paul Gorry > > > > > > > > > Original Message: > > > ----------------- > > > From: fosborne [email protected] > > > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:59:41 -0500 > > > To: [email protected] > > > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > I have a civil birth record for John Darcy, born 30 Jan 1874 > > > Father: John Darcy Mother: Catherine Kennedy > > > Sponsor 1: John Darcy Sponsor 2: Not Recorded > > > > > > Here is my question......In the notes Section it shows: > > > > > > **** Father > > > X **** > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what/who the notes refer to? > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > *************************************** > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hello I know this is nothing to do with your own enquiry, sorry, but I just wanted to say thank you for putting the web address in your email for the Family History Foundation online, I never knew it exsisted and just had a quick browse through for my Laceys. So, thank you it may come in useful Jeanette

Yes, you and Paul are correct. This is not an original copy but a copy of the civil registration as supplied by the IFHF. It does contain quite a bit of the information you have outlined, such as: Name (of child) Date of Baptism/Birth Address Parish/District Gender County Denomination (Here they listed "Civil Record") Father Mother Occupation Sponsor 1/Informant 1 Sponsor 2/Informant 2 Notes I show this in case anyone was wondering what the IFHF was providing. Thanks to your responses I now understand that the name listed for the Sponsor/Informant was the father in this case, and (thanks to Cara) that he made his mark with an "X" I knew that this List would set me straight Thanks again Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jane Daly" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Friday, February 06, 2009 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > What you have is a transcript from a database. It may say civil birth > record - but it is not an original copy. > > An official Civil birth record does not record sponsors. > > The headings of an official civil birth record has the following headings - > > Births Registered in the District of - > In the Union of- > in the County of - > > Date and place of birth - > Name (if any) - > Sex - > Name and Surname and Dwelling Place of Father - > Name and Surname and Maiden Surname of Mother - > Rank or Profession of Father - > Signature, Qualification and Residence of Informant - > When Registered - > Signature of Registrar - > Baptismal Name if added after Registration of Birth and Date - > > So as Paul Gorry states there is never a record of sponsors on civil birth > records. > > I would reckon that the transcript you have - has mistakenly titled the > informant of the birth as the sponsor. > > The informant was often the mother or the father - so it is likely in this > case that the father was the informant. > > Jane > > > > > > On Fri, Feb 6, 2009 at 3:49 PM, fosborne <[email protected]> wrote: > > > What I have is the document one receives from the Irish Family History > > Foundation > > on line at www.brsgenealogy.com for the price of 5 Euro. The title is > > "Civil Birth > > Record for John Darcy." I think that Cara may have provided the correct > > reply. > > > > Frank > > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > From: "p.jpcollins" <[email protected]> > > To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:48 PM > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > > May I suggest that this sound more like a baptismal record > > > Regards Peter Collins > > > ----- Original Message ----- > > > From: <[email protected]> > > > To: <[email protected]> > > > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:47 PM > > > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > > > > > Frank, > > > > > > > > Whatever that is you're looking at, it's not a civil birth record. > > > > There > > > > is no such thing as a sponsor on a civil record of birth. Is there a > > > > heading "Sponsor" on it? Where did you get it? > > > > > > > > Paul Gorry > > > > > > > > > > > > Original Message: > > > > ----------------- > > > > From: fosborne [email protected] > > > > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:59:41 -0500 > > > > To: [email protected] > > > > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > > > > > I have a civil birth record for John Darcy, born 30 Jan 1874 > > > > Father: John Darcy Mother: Catherine Kennedy > > > > Sponsor 1: John Darcy Sponsor 2: Not Recorded > > > > > > > > Here is my question......In the notes Section it shows: > > > > > > > > **** Father > > > > X **** > > > > > > > > Can anyone tell me what/who the notes refer to? > > > > > > > > Frank > > > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the > > > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > > > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in > > the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Golding and all, I think quite a few folks are confusing some of the software programs out there than can be helpful in tracking genealogy records. While Microsoft is the industry leader in "Office" suites there are other programs that do these tasks as well and some may already be pre-installed on a computer. It all depends on what was included during the purchase. Corel is the current owner of WordPerfect which is their version of Word. Corel also has Quattro Pro which is their version of Excel. Microsoft also sells Access which is a true database and Corel uses Paradox. IBM owns Lotus Approach which is equivalent to Access and Paradox. Sun systems has a free office suite called OpenOffice. The choices are endless. While I deal with all of these products on a daily basis I can tell you that they are almost identical to each other in functionality and there are very minor differences in the way their screens look and the terminology they use. While this can all be very intimidating for the novice user these programs come with built in tutorials and you can always create a dummy file to play around with before trying things on your "live" data. It's pretty easy to do and you can quickly get the hang of it. Now Microsoft has a free program that they give away on most PC's called MS Works. That includes stripped down versions of their word processor, spread sheet and database. Its free and for very basic tasks it works but you're limited in functionality and file compatibility. These companies don't want you using other companies software so they make it difficult on purpose to exchange data between programs. It's not impossible just not encouraged. Word is a word processor that handles basic function in tables & charts. For sorting data it can do that but its cumbersome. For searching data its very impractical. Excel is a spreadsheet that is excellent for sorting data and doing basic searches. However if you have a large list of rows and columns of data and you need to pick out groups of people by different values in these rows and columns a database is your program which Microsoft calls Access. All that's basically involved with setting up a database is on a piece of paper writing down the names of the fields you would like to capture (the more fields the easier to search). So instead of using "name" as a field, create 2 fields called "last name" and then "first name". Now you can sort and search by either. Once you have your list of fields you need to determine how long the maximum number of characters will be, let's say 20 characters long, and what type of field it should be (text, number, date, currency, etc). Last is whether the field should allow only numeric entries, alphabetical only or both alphanumeric entries. Once you have this list the program will basically lead you through the process of creating them. Now it's just getting familiar with how to search, create a custom report or add/remove data. Sorry to be so long winded but it can really help with your family searches when you have a lot of data to sort through. Bill Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 23:18:16 -0000 From: "GOLDING KIDD" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] IRL-WICKLOW Digest, DANIEL KAVANAGH To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Hey Peggy Any news about Word, Excel & Microsoft Have you any words of wisdom to impart as promised ! Golding

What I have is the document one receives from the Irish Family History Foundation on line at www.brsgenealogy.com for the price of 5 Euro. The title is "Civil Birth Record for John Darcy." I think that Cara may have provided the correct reply. Frank ----- Original Message ----- From: "p.jpcollins" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:48 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > May I suggest that this sound more like a baptismal record > Regards Peter Collins > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:47 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > Frank, > > > > Whatever that is you're looking at, it's not a civil birth record. > > There > > is no such thing as a sponsor on a civil record of birth. Is there a > > heading "Sponsor" on it? Where did you get it? > > > > Paul Gorry > > > > > > Original Message: > > ----------------- > > From: fosborne [email protected] > > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:59:41 -0500 > > To: [email protected] > > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > > > > Hi List, > > > > I have a civil birth record for John Darcy, born 30 Jan 1874 > > Father: John Darcy Mother: Catherine Kennedy > > Sponsor 1: John Darcy Sponsor 2: Not Recorded > > > > Here is my question......In the notes Section it shows: > > > > **** Father > > X **** > > > > Can anyone tell me what/who the notes refer to? > > > > Frank > > > > > > *************************************** > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > > > > > *************************************** > > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Jack, thanks for the reply, No have never heard of our Walsh family in Newfoundland. Wouldn't say they didn't as I am struggling to find info on them even in Kilkenny. My Walsh's didn't come to Austalia by choice. Matthew my gr.grandfather, was the first to arrive and from what I can find he was a rebel and was stripped of his name and exiled here in Sydney. He then after a short time somehow owned property the Sydney Suburbs and sent for the rest of his family. His parents James Walsh & Ann Conron, his brothers John, Martin, and his sister Anne (who we lost in Sydney) There was one brother, Patrick, who either didn't want to come or was deceased prior to the start of the migration 1859-1865. Family stories and the pages from the family bible which came with James tell us more names but have yet been able to find them in Muckalee/Kilkenny records. The story is that he was not registered on the convict ship as he didn't exist, and took the name Walsh back on arrival in Sydney. It is a family story full of holes. One part that has been proved was the fact that when stripped of all he owned the money was placed in Chancery. His son Patrick, my grandfather, did try to get the money from Chancery through legal claim in the 1930's from Sydney but the cost would have made the exercise non viable financially. Stories, stories. They are great to hear but hard to prove. Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jack Connors" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 10:27 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh > Paddy > > Here in Newfoundland, the Walsh surname appears to be the most common and > indeed I know many researchers and most have at least one Walsh family in > their database. I have several myself Walsh families myself, any chance > any > of your ancestors emigrated to the Island of Newfoundland. > > Jack Connors > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Paddy" <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 12:54 AM > Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh > > >> Joseph, >> Walsh is like Smith & Jones, thick on the ground. >> Seldom do we connect with other lines but we keep trying. >> Thank you for your curtesy and I wish you well on your continued >> searching. >> Paddy >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Joseph C Dorsey" <[email protected]> >> To: <[email protected]> >> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:19 PM >> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh >> >> >> Thanks, Paddy, you are probably right, we do not share any common >> ancestors >> if your lineage went to Austrailia and my came to the U.S., via Canada. >> So, >> I would have nothing to gain from your information. I enjoyed visiting >> with >> you on this subject and comparing notes. >> >> Joseph >> >> --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Paddy <[email protected]> wrote: >> >> >> Joseph, >>>From what you have said I doubt if our Walsh lines are the same. >> However if you like I will still send the History and Tree to you >> privately >> for your records. >> Unfortunately at the time of publishing the sources were not recorded and >> anything that >> might look promising to connect would need personally verification. >> I am actually having another look at this History as there were great >> uncles >> who we didn't follow >> through to later generations. >> Nothing at this stage leads me to believe that any of the ancestors went >> to >> USA or Canada. >> Before Australia is difficult. Some that became friends to this line of >> Walsh actually changed their names >> or the spelling of their names as most of them had been rebels. i.e. >> Phelan became Phegan or Pheagan >> so am lucky we have the notations out of the Walsh family bible that one >> of >> them brought with them to >> Sydney Australia. The change in name in the Walsh's may have only meant >> the >> addition of 'e' to the name >> i.e. Walshe but have never seen it in this line in Australia. Did >> Happen >> in the line in Ireland, one with no 'e' >> another with. All very messy. None in our tree were proved to have an >> 'e'. >> Ah! the Irish are a mysterious lot. >> If you still wish to have the information will be happy to send although >> i >> doubt it will help you with your line. >> regards >> Paddy >> >> *************************************** >> 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer >> >> 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> >> >> -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- >> >> >> >> No virus found in this incoming message. >> Checked by AVG - www.avg.com >> Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: >> 02/04/09 >> 16:35:00 >> *************************************** >> 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer >> >> 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. 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It read  to me  whoever noted all this that the  the father signed with an X which would have been his mark   Birth record yes Cheers Cara --- On Thu, 2/5/09, fosborne <[email protected]> wrote: From: fosborne <[email protected]> Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record To: [email protected] Date: Thursday, February 5, 2009, 4:59 PM Hi List, I have a civil birth record for John Darcy, born 30 Jan 1874 Father: John Darcy Mother: Catherine Kennedy Sponsor 1: John Darcy Sponsor 2: Not Recorded Here is my question......In the notes Section it shows: **** Father X **** Can anyone tell me what/who the notes refer to? Frank *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hey Peggy Any news about Word, Excel & Microsoft Have you any words of wisdom to impart as promised ! Golding ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 11:09 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] IRL-WICKLOW Digest, DANIEL KAVANAGH > Hi. I have a few Daniel Kavanagh/Cavanaghs. Can you give me an > approximate > time frame? > > Peggy Leonard > > > In a message dated 2/5/2009 4:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, > [email protected] writes: > the only thing I know about Daniel Kavanagh is that he > was a sponsor to Matthew Lacey's Christening along with Teresa > Forde.......So > unfortunately > > > > **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. > (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. > net/clk;211531132;33070124;e) > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > >

May I suggest that this sound more like a baptismal record Regards Peter Collins ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 6:47 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > Frank, > > Whatever that is you're looking at, it's not a civil birth record. > There > is no such thing as a sponsor on a civil record of birth. Is there a > heading "Sponsor" on it? Where did you get it? > > Paul Gorry > > > Original Message: > ----------------- > From: fosborne [email protected] > Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:59:41 -0500 > To: [email protected] > Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record > > > Hi List, > > I have a civil birth record for John Darcy, born 30 Jan 1874 > Father: John Darcy Mother: Catherine Kennedy > Sponsor 1: John Darcy Sponsor 2: Not Recorded > > Here is my question......In the notes Section it shows: > > **** Father > X **** > > Can anyone tell me what/who the notes refer to? > > Frank > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -------------------------------------------------------------------- > mail2web - Check your email from the web at > http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web > > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi. I have a few Daniel Kavanagh/Cavanaghs. Can you give me an approximate time frame? Peggy Leonard In a message dated 2/5/2009 4:24:07 P.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: the only thing I know about Daniel Kavanagh is that he was a sponsor to Matthew Lacey's Christening along with Teresa Forde.......So unfortunately **************Great Deals on Dell Laptops. Starting at $499. (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100000075x1217883258x1201191827/aol?redir=http://ad.doubleclick. net/clk;211531132;33070124;e)

Joseph, If you break down that brick wall make me one of the first to hear. Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph C Dorsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh LOL, I could not agree more with your opening sentence. I believe Moran and Darcy are the same way. Then, when one adds the Irish Naming Tradition on top of that, one can completely mad. I will never forget when I first started my genealogy research and went to the FHC to check on my g. grandfather, John Darcy. The first film I pulled up had that name about every other line. I got so depressed.........I thought that I would never find him. I went home very disillusioned. To date I still have not found his exact birth. Luckly, he got married in Montreal, Quebec, and was able to find his marriage record, thanks to a wonderful priest there. He married Mary Moran, which is no better. If I had a dollar for everyone who came to North America with those two names, I could afford to go to Ireland to do my own research. You are a please to communicate with on-line. Joseph --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Paddy <[email protected]> wrote: From: Paddy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 10:24 PM Joseph, Walsh is like Smith & Jones, thick on the ground. Seldom do we connect with other lines but we keep trying. Thank you for your curtesy and I wish you well on your continued searching. Paddy -----

Joseph, Walsh is like Smith & Jones, thick on the ground. Seldom do we connect with other lines but we keep trying. Thank you for your curtesy and I wish you well on your continued searching. Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph C Dorsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 2:19 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh Thanks, Paddy, you are probably right, we do not share any common ancestors if your lineage went to Austrailia and my came to the U.S., via Canada. So, I would have nothing to gain from your information. I enjoyed visiting with you on this subject and comparing notes. Joseph --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Paddy <[email protected]> wrote: Joseph, >From what you have said I doubt if our Walsh lines are the same. However if you like I will still send the History and Tree to you privately for your records. Unfortunately at the time of publishing the sources were not recorded and anything that might look promising to connect would need personally verification. I am actually having another look at this History as there were great uncles who we didn't follow through to later generations. Nothing at this stage leads me to believe that any of the ancestors went to USA or Canada. Before Australia is difficult. Some that became friends to this line of Walsh actually changed their names or the spelling of their names as most of them had been rebels. i.e. Phelan became Phegan or Pheagan so am lucky we have the notations out of the Walsh family bible that one of them brought with them to Sydney Australia. The change in name in the Walsh's may have only meant the addition of 'e' to the name i.e. Walshe but have never seen it in this line in Australia. Did Happen in the line in Ireland, one with no 'e' another with. All very messy. None in our tree were proved to have an 'e'. Ah! the Irish are a mysterious lot. If you still wish to have the information will be happy to send although i doubt it will help you with your line. regards Paddy *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------------------- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG - www.avg.com Version: 8.0.233 / Virus Database: 270.10.18/1935 - Release Date: 02/04/09 16:35:00

Frank, Whatever that is you're looking at, it's not a civil birth record. There is no such thing as a sponsor on a civil record of birth. Is there a heading "Sponsor" on it? Where did you get it? Paul Gorry Original Message: ----------------- From: fosborne [email protected] Date: Thu, 5 Feb 2009 11:59:41 -0500 To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] Question about Civil Birth Record Hi List, I have a civil birth record for John Darcy, born 30 Jan 1874 Father: John Darcy Mother: Catherine Kennedy Sponsor 1: John Darcy Sponsor 2: Not Recorded Here is my question......In the notes Section it shows: **** Father X **** Can anyone tell me what/who the notes refer to? Frank *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -------------------------------------------------------------------- mail2web - Check your email from the web at http://link.mail2web.com/mail2web

"Matthew Lacey 16 Nov 1839 In Johnstown, Arklow m. Catherine Brien Sponsors to Christening were: Daniel Kavanagh / Teresa Forde" DANIEL Kavanagh?? What a joy to see the name!! Probably not the one I want, but exciting nevertheless. My Daniel, Blacksmith, was born c.1807 "Wicklow" to James Kavanagh & Mary Byrne/Byrnes/Burns (the latter as recorded in Australia) - married Margaret Murphy c.1834 at Glendalough - listed on Griffiths Valuation as renting house & forge at Coolbeg (Glenealy), where at least one daughter was born c.1847 - family came to Australia 1858. Fourth (known) son was Patrick, born c.1843, so about 13 at time of christening of Alexander Lacey. Any bells ringing?? Cheers Barbara

Hi List, I have a civil birth record for John Darcy, born 30 Jan 1874 Father: John Darcy Mother: Catherine Kennedy Sponsor 1: John Darcy Sponsor 2: Not Recorded Here is my question......In the notes Section it shows: **** Father X **** Can anyone tell me what/who the notes refer to? Frank

That I will do for sure, Paddy.   jcd --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Paddy <[email protected]> wrote: From: Paddy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 11:29 PM Joseph, If you break down that brick wall make me one of the first to hear. Paddy ----- Original Message ----- From: "Joseph C Dorsey" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, February 05, 2009 4:11 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh LOL, I could not agree more with your opening sentence. I believe Moran and Darcy are the same way. Then, when one adds the Irish Naming Tradition on top of that, one can completely mad. I will never forget when I first started my genealogy research and went to the FHC to check on my g. grandfather, John Darcy. The first film I pulled up had that name about every other line. I got so depressed.........I thought that I would never find him. I went home very disillusioned. To date I still have not found his exact birth. Luckly, he got married in Montreal, Quebec, and was able to find his marriage record, thanks to a wonderful priest there. He married Mary Moran, which is no better. If I had a dollar for everyone who came to North America with those two names, I could afford to go to Ireland to do my own research. You are a please to communicate with on-line. Joseph --- On Wed, 2/4/09, Paddy <[email protected]> wrote: From: Paddy <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] Walsh To: [email protected] Date: Wednesday, February 4, 2009, 10:24 PM Joseph, Walsh is like Smith & Jones, thick on the ground. Seldom do we connect with other lines but we keep trying. Thank you for your curtesy and I wish you well on your continued searching. Paddy ----- *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message