Descendants of Michael Byrne Generation No. 1 1. MICHAEL1 BYRNE He married ELLEN BYRNE. Children of MICHAEL BYRNE and ELLEN BYRNE are: i. CHARLES2 BYRNE, b. 11 Nov 1864, Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for CHARLES BYRNE: BYRNE, Charles Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 11 Nov 1864 Birthplace: Kiltegan, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Michael BYRNE Mother: Ellen BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101096 ii. PATRICK BYRNE, b. 30 Apr 1869, Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for PATRICK BYRNE: BYRNE, Patrick Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 30 Apr 1869 Birthplace: 507, Kiltegan, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Michael BYRNE Mother: Ellen BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101186 iii. THOMAS BYRNE, b. Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. iv. MARTIN BYRNE, b. Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. ================== Descendants of Andrew Burke Generation No. 1 1. ANDREW1 BURKE He married FRANCES BYRNE. Children of ANDREW BURKE and FRANCES BYRNE are: i. MARY2 BURKE, b. 07 Sep 1871, Aughrim Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for MARY BURKE: BURKE, Mary Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 7 Sep 1871 Birthplace: 945, Aughrim, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Andrew BURKE Mother: Frances BYRNE Source: FHL Film 255834 Dates: 1871 - 1872 ii. ANASTASIA BURKE, b. 14 Apr 1873, Aughrim Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for ANASTASIA BURKE: BURKE, Anestesia Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 14 Apr 1873 Birthplace: Aughrim, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Andrew Burke Mother: Frances Byrne Source: FHL Film 255877 Dates: 1873 - 1874 iii. SLYVESTER BURKE, b. 10 Dec 1874, Aughrim Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for SLYVESTER BURKE: BURKE, Sylvester Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 10 Dec 1874 Birthplace: Aughrim, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Andrew BURKE Mother: Frances BYRNE Source: FHL Film 255922 ================ Descendants of George Bourke Generation No. 1 1. GEORGE1 BOURKE He married HONOR BYRNE. Children of GEORGE BOURKE and HONOR BYRNE are: i. GEORGE2 BOURKE, b. 30 Nov 1864, Newcastle Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for GEORGE BOURKE: BURKE, George Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 30 Nov 1864 Birthplace: Newcastle, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Patrick BURKE Mother: Honora BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101096 Dates: 1864 - 1864 ii. GEORGE BOURKE, b. 27 Apr 1868, Delgany Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for GEORGE BOURKE: BOURKE, George Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 27 Apr 1868 Birthplace: 994, Delgany, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Patrick BOURKE Mother: Honor BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101166 Dates: 1868 - 1869 =========================== Descendants of Thomas Brady Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS1 BRADY He married JANE BYRNE. Child of THOMAS BRADY and JANE BYRNE is: i. MARGARET2 BRADY, b. 14 Jan 1869, Dunganstown Co Wicklow Ireland. ========================================== Descendants of Jane Byrne Generation No. 1 1. JANE1 BYRNE She married JOHN BRYAN. Child of JANE BYRNE and JOHN BRYAN is: i. MARY JANE2 BRYAN, b. 16 Feb 1871, Dunganstown Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for MARY JANE BRYAN: BRYAN, Mary Jane Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 16 Feb 1871 Birthplace: 1086, Dunganstown, Wick, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Source: FHL Film 255812 ===================================

Descendants of Mary Byrne Generation No. 1 1. MARY1 BYRNE She married JOHN BRENNAN. Children of MARY BYRNE and JOHN BRENNAN are: i. SARAH2 BRENNAN, b. 20 Sep 1868, Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for SARAH BRENNAN: BRENNAN, Sarah Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 Sep 1868 Birthplace: 446, Kiltegan, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John BRENNAN Mother: Mary BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101171 Dates: 1868 - 1869 ii. CHARLES BRENNAN, b. 20 Aug 1870, Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for CHARLES BRENNAN: BRENNAN, Charles Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 20 Aug 1870 Birthplace: 446, Kiltegan, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John BRENNAN Mother: Mary BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101211 Dates: 1870 - 1871 ------------------------------ Descendants of Mary Byrne Generation No. 1 1. MARY1 BYRNE She married JOHN BRYAN. Child of MARY BYRNE and JOHN BRYAN is: i. ANASTASIA2 BRYAN, b. 20 Nov 1870, Newbridge Co Wicklow Irealnd. Notes for ANASTASIA BRYAN: BRYAN, Anastatia Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 Nov 1870 Birthplace: 940, Newbridge, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John BRYAN Mother: Mary BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101216 Dates: 1870 - 1871 =============== Descendants of Mary Byrne Generation No. 1 1. MARY1 BYRNE She married THOMAS BROWN. Children of MARY BYRNE and THOMAS BROWN are: i. PATRICK2 BROWN, b. 05 May 1867, Rathdrum, Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for PATRICK BROWN: BROWN, Patrick Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 5 May 1867 Birthplace: Rathdrum, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas BROWN Mother: Maria BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101146 ii. MARGARET BROWN, b. 24 Feb 1871, Rathdrum, Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for MARGARET BROWN: BROWN, Margaret Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 24 Feb 1871 Birthplace: 1096, Rathdrum, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas BROWN Mother: Mary BYRNE Source: FHL Film 255812 iii. THOMAS BROWN, b. 16 Sep 1873, Rathdrum, Co Wicklow Ireland.

Descendants of Thomas Bookey Generation No. 1 1. THOMAS1 BOOKEY He married BRIDGET BYRNE. Children of THOMAS BOOKEY and BRIDGET BYRNE are: i. MARGARET Q2 BOOKEY, b. 29 Apr 1871, Tinahely Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for MARGARET Q BOOKEY: BOOKEY, Margaret Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 29 Apr 1871 Birthplace: 1066, Tinahely, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas BOOKEY Mother: Bridget BYRNE Source: FHL Film 255820 Dates: 1871 - 1872 ii. JOHN PATRICK BOOKEY, b. 11 Jul 1875, Tinahely Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for JOHN PATRICK BOOKEY: BOOKEY, John Patrick Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 11 Jul 1875 Birthplace: Tinahely, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Thomas BOOKEY Mother: Bridget BYRNE Source: FHL Film 255935 Dates: 1875 - 1875 ================ Descendants of John Brennan Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 BRENNAN He married MARY BYRNE. Children of JOHN BRENNAN and MARY BYRNE are: i. SARAH2 BRENNAN, b. 20 Sep 1868, Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for SARAH BRENNAN: BRENNAN, Sarah Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 20 Sep 1868 Birthplace: 446, Kiltegan, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John BRENNAN Mother: Mary BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101171 Dates: 1868 - 1869 ii. CHARLES BRENNAN, b. 20 Aug 1870, Kiltegan Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for CHARLES BRENNAN: BRENNAN, Charles Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 20 Aug 1870 Birthplace: 446, Kiltegan, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John BRENNAN Mother: Mary BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101211 Dates: 1870 - 1871 =========== Just a few of those pesky Byrnes I have to keep you all wondering. Hundreds more in the file ......... Cheers For Now Cara

Descendants of Ebeneza Beal Generation No. 1 1. EBENEZA1 BEAL He married NANNIE BYRNE. Child of EBENEZA BEAL and NANNIE BYRNE is: i. CATHARINE2 BEAL, b. 12 May 1875, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for CATHARINE BEAL: BEAL, Catharine Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 12 May 1875 Birthplace: Arklow, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Ebenezer BEAL Mother: Nannie BYRNE Source: FHL Film 255930 ========================= Descendants of Patrick Bolger Generation No. 1 1. PATRICK1 BOLGER He married ELLEN BYRNE. Children of PATRICK BOLGER and ELLEN BYRNE are: i. MICHAEL2 BOLGER, b. 22 Apr 1868, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for MICHAEL BOLGER: BOLGER, Michael Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 22 Apr 1868 Birthplace: 1032, Arklow, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Patrick BOLGER Mother: Ellen BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101166 Dates: 1868 - 1869 ii. ELIZA BOLGER, b. 30 Apr 1870, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for ELIZA BOLGER: BOLGER, Eliza Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 30 Apr 1870 Birthplace: Arklow, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Patrick Bolger Mother: Ellen Byrne Source: FHL Film 101206 Dates: 1870 - 1871 iii. ANNE BOLGER, b. 03 Jun 1872, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for ANNE BOLGER: BOLGER, Anne Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 3 Jun 1872 Birthplace: Arklow, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Patrick BOLGER Mother: Ellen BYRNE Source: FHL Film 255857 Dates: 1872 - 1873 iv. PATRICK BOLGER, b. 30 Apr 1874, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for PATRICK BOLGER: BOLGER, Patrick Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 30 Apr 1874 Birthplace: Arklow, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: Patrick Bolger Mother: Ellen Byrne Source: FHL Film 255901 Dates: 1874 - 1875 ================================ Descendants of John Bolger Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 BOLGER He married MARY ANNE BYRNE. Child of JOHN BOLGER and MARY BYRNE is: i. MARY2 BOLGER, b. 26 Oct 1869, Newbridge Co Wicklow Irealnd. Notes for MARY BOLGER: BOLGER, Mary Birth Gender: Female Birth Date: 26 Oct 1869 Birthplace: 911, Newbridge, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John BOLGER Mother: Mary Anne BYRNE Source: FHL Film 101196 Dates: 1869 - 1870 ===================

Descendants of John Beakey Generation No. 1 1. JOHN1 BEAKEY He married ELLEN TERESA BYRNE OR BUTLER. Child of JOHN BEAKEY and ELLEN BUTLER is: i. JOHN JOSEPH ALOYSIUS2 BEAKEY, b. 21 Jun 1871, Arklow Co Wicklow Ireland. Notes for JOHN JOSEPH ALOYSIUS BEAKEY: BEAKEY, John Joseph Aloysius Birth Gender: Male Birth Date: 21 Jun 1871 Birthplace: 923, Arklow, Wick, Ire Recorded in: Wicklow, Ireland Collection: Civil Registration Father: John BEAKEY Mother: Ellen Teresa BYRNE OR BUTLER Source: FHL Film 255827 Dates: 1871 - 1872

Hi Cara, I have been off list for some time but decided to browse the archives the other day and came across the above message (Mon, 26 Jan 2009 21:08:59 +1100 ). A couple of names, Patrick Traynor and Anna Kirwan, rang a bell with me and, although I cannot place them as married couple, you did say "anything" would do ! In trying to draw a connection between Patrick Traynor and Anna Kirwan, I have the following: At: Kilavaney, Wicklow, 28 Jan 1842 Luke Traynor ( b 1822, Ballinglen, Wicklow) married Esther Kirwan, (b 1920, Carlow.) Luke was the eldest of 5 children (that I know of!) of Thomas Traynor (b abt 1800) and Mary Connors ( b abt 1800 ). Patrick Traynor (b abt 1825) was a brother of Luke Traynor (Patrick married Ester Nolan at Aughrim, Wicklow on 8 Feb 1853) Luke Traynor and Esther Kirwan had 7 children (that I know of ) The first born was Anne (b 1842). (Thereafter - Hugh, Patrick, Jane, Mary, Bridget and John.) Anyway, it seems possible to me that the persons you list were related through the marriage of siblings and your record is actually of their presence as witnesses/sponsors at a wedding or baptism? Regards, Terry Trainor

I would like to make contact with any GILLICK family member who maybe descended from Paddy & Eileen(nee BYRNE)GILLICK of Three Wells in Co.Wicklow Thanks Helen McNamara New Zealand

Updated file for Wicklow...St. Patrick's Church, Enniskerry - Part 3. Part three is now complete. Thanks to Joyce Tunstead for her work on this cemetery. To view the new headstones and the text file go to: http://www.igp-web.com/IGPArchives/ Click on WICKLOW and HEADSTONES. Contribute data or photos at http://www.genrecords.org/irfiles/ Regards, Christina Ireland Genealogy Projects - Archives

Hey Cara, What about O'Toole, surely that's as Irish as Paddy's pigs. I reckon you could add to your dimes and have that return trip to old Erin, O'Tooles, O'Sullivan, O'Meara etc. etc. all worthy Irish surnames. I'm certain you are far more familiar with those names than I ... but if I were searching I'd be looking for Mary O'Toole, and yes I know, it's like looking for my great grandmother Bridget Ryan, there are thousands of Bridget Ryans but I had a good clue, I had her parents names and her home-town which was a distinct advantage. And I got that information from her death certificate. Not wishing to intrude but to be helpful. Good luck Carol. Best wishes, James. -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: 20 February 2009 18:07 To: [email protected] Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] SULLVANS- witness Mary Toole 1829 Carol Toole - well if I had a dime for every Mary and John Toole I have harvested I would be a rich old lady and on my way back to Ireland to live for a few years. So no I cant tell you who MAry Toole was.......... I think and this is only a think Carol I would look at Wales, Cornwall and Nova Scotia to see where all these Sullivans began or got to. I know nothing of Joseph Sullivan in Bray............. My earliest Sullivan is a Thomas as you know of............ So humouring you is not a problem Carol its finding the evidence you need on the name Sullivan on where they came from and where they went I cant humour you on. Cara *************************************** 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- No virus found in this incoming message. Checked by AVG. Version: 7.5.552 / Virus Database: 270.11.1/1961 - Release Date: 2/19/2009 6:45 PM

Hi James I wish UK death certs gave as much info as yours, lucky you! I will continue looking for Sullivans wth Bridgets Patrcks and Susannahs mentioned in them, one day I will find possbles and until then I wll enjoy the ride. Thanks for the support. Carol On Sat, Feb 21, 2009 at 3:43 AM, james twycross <[email protected]> wrote: And I got that information from her death certificate. Not > wishing to intrude but to be helpful. Good luck Carol. Best wishes, James.

Carol Toole - well if I had a dime for every Mary and John Toole I have harvested I would be a rich old lady and on my way back to Ireland to live for a few years. So no I cant tell you who MAry Toole was.......... I think and this is only a think Carol I would look at Wales, Cornwall and Nova Scotia to see where all these Sullivans began or got to. I know nothing of Joseph Sullivan in Bray............. My earliest Sullivan is a Thomas as you know of............ So humouring you is not a problem Carol its finding the evidence you need on the name Sullivan on where they came from and where they went I cant humour you on. Cara

Adding my bit on the topic. This week I was at the National Library searching the RC Register for Harrington St., Dublin covering the 1880s. Three observations I would make: 1. Over nine in ten children had only one given name, not all Latinised. 2. There were up to a dozen baptisms on a given day. 3. The children being baptized were only a few days old. The rare cases where the child was older was recorded in the notes. Unlike the Anglican records which focus on the baptismal date (the Church of Ireland was disestablished in 1871-act.26th July 1869), the Catholic records are primarily a record of birth. Although a civil registration was a legal requirement, I think the vast majority saw the Catholic Church as the regulator of their (BMD) lives and a proxy for their national identity and was therefore the first port of call. Also, the notions of purgatory and limbo were very real in the minds of the people. Frank Kehoe. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, February 16, 2009 2:32 AM Subject: [IRL-WICKLOW] ADDING TO CARA'S DIME..-PEGGY > > More input for the years 1800-1900 would be of interest and intrigue. > > > > Cheers > Cara > > > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Cara Nova Scotia certainly seems to have its far share of Sullvans doesnt it, and thanks for humouring me. Its really interesting looking at all the places they turn up in, Wales and Cornwall also seem to have links to Co Wicklow, if only I had a family who stayed put... but then I wouldnt be here:) Carol On Fri, Feb 20, 2009 at 7:06 AM, Cara_Links <[email protected]> wrote: > I think and this is only a think Carol I would look at Wales, Cornwall and > Nova Scotia to see where all these Sullivans began or got to. > > > >

On Thu, Feb 19, 2009 at 5:11 PM, Jocelyn Braddell <[email protected]> wrote: > The Passport Office is no longer recognizing the babtism of a child in > Ireland as legitimating an Irish person when born abroad. Hi Joyce, thanks for telling us. My mams grandparents were born Co Wicklow, she will be gutted to hear that as she is longng to get an authentic baptsm record so he can have Irish ctzenship. At least now she wont be dissapointed by my efforts now. I feel for all those who are busy collecting costly evidence for that reason. And I say that in our hearts we are Irish as I stood no chance as my mam would have had to have got herself sorted before I was born and its a bit late now:) Carol

The Passport Office is no longer recognizing the babtism of a child in Ireland as legitimating an Irish person when born abroad. I think this is disgraceful and has necessitated in my spending a large sum of money to naturalize although my family have been here since late 1600s. Thanks for the useful discussion. Jocelyn Braddell -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: 19 February 2009 08:01 To: [email protected] Subject: IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 4, Issue 44 Today's Topics: 1. Re: DEM SULLIVANS AND WITNESSES (Jane Daly) 2. Re: LIMBO (Mary Villalba) 3. Re: LIMBO (Judy Robertson-Wellhauser) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 14:08:14 +0000 From: Jane Daly <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] DEM SULLIVANS AND WITNESSES To: Cara_Links <[email protected]>, [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=ISO-8859-1 Cara, you said regarding Church of Ireland baptisms "Church of Ireland well thats a custom in itself Child was not baptised or christened within the church they have a presentation thing and more than likely the child having been baptised at home." Just to clear up any confusion, Church of Ireland children were indeed baptised in the church as evidenced by the presense of baptismal fonts in all Church of Ireland churches. However as the church did not believe in Limbo, there was not a sense of urgency as there was in the Catholic church, therefore the child was often baptised months after the birth. Jane ------------------------------ Message: 2 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 10:13:54 -0700 From: "Mary Villalba" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] LIMBO To: <[email protected]> Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1"; reply-type=original Ah, yes....now I remember.....us COI, COE, Anglican, Episcopal Protestants don't believe in Limbo!!! Bet not too many younger church goers have ever heard that term! m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications, LLC (303) 290-8415 Tele Distinguished Past Governor, Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane Daly" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 AM To: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] DEM SULLIVANS AND WITNESSES > Cara, you said regarding Church of Ireland baptisms > > "Church of Ireland well thats a custom in itself > Child was not baptised or christened within the church they have a > presentation thing and more than likely the child having been baptised at > home." > > Just to clear up any confusion, Church of Ireland children were indeed > baptised in the church as evidenced by the presense of baptismal fonts in > all Church of Ireland churches. However as the church did not believe in > Limbo, there was not a sense of urgency as there was in the Catholic > church, > therefore the child was often baptised months after the birth. > > Jane > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------ Message: 3 Date: Wed, 18 Feb 2009 19:31:27 +0000 From: "Judy Robertson-Wellhauser" <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] LIMBO To: [email protected] Message-ID: <[email protected]> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed My grandmother was baptized in Holy Cross Church 3 days after she was born. She was born Dec. 7,1876 and baptized Dec.10,1876. ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-WICKLOW list administrator, send an email to [email protected] To post a message to the IRL-WICKLOW mailing list, send an email to [email protected] __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-WICKLOW Digest, Vol 4, Issue 44 ******************************************

My grandmother was baptized in Holy Cross Church 3 days after she was born. She was born Dec. 7,1876 and baptized Dec.10,1876.

Cara, you said regarding Church of Ireland baptisms "Church of Ireland well thats a custom in itself Child was not baptised or christened within the church they have a presentation thing and more than likely the child having been baptised at home." Just to clear up any confusion, Church of Ireland children were indeed baptised in the church as evidenced by the presense of baptismal fonts in all Church of Ireland churches. However as the church did not believe in Limbo, there was not a sense of urgency as there was in the Catholic church, therefore the child was often baptised months after the birth. Jane

Ah, yes....now I remember.....us COI, COE, Anglican, Episcopal Protestants don't believe in Limbo!!! Bet not too many younger church goers have ever heard that term! m Mary Villalba AZTEC Communications, LLC (303) 290-8415 Tele Distinguished Past Governor, Rocky Mountain District Kiwanis International "A global organization of volunteers, dedicated to changing the world, one child and one community at a time." -------------------------------------------------- From: "Jane Daly" <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, February 18, 2009 7:08 AM To: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]>; <[email protected]> Subject: Re: [IRL-WICKLOW] DEM SULLIVANS AND WITNESSES > Cara, you said regarding Church of Ireland baptisms > > "Church of Ireland well thats a custom in itself > Child was not baptised or christened within the church they have a > presentation thing and more than likely the child having been baptised at > home." > > Just to clear up any confusion, Church of Ireland children were indeed > baptised in the church as evidenced by the presense of baptismal fonts in > all Church of Ireland churches. However as the church did not believe in > Limbo, there was not a sense of urgency as there was in the Catholic > church, > therefore the child was often baptised months after the birth. > > Jane > *************************************** > 1- Only leave in the body of the mail what is relevant to your answer > > 2- Change the SUBJECT LINE to suit the body of your own Mail to List. > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Peggy I was not referring to the first entry in the Parish register but what was put on An actual registration that I have applied and paid for even the name changed when buried..( First name )......... so the Irish if they desired to be found certainly make it hard by adding in some cutesy things along the way. Child was put in the parish register as one name and had along the way many more added to them and I based my thoughts on this .............I also add that I only based them on the 1800-1900era. Although what you are all teaching me is of interest and it was what they did way back in GGGGgrandma's and grandfathers days that is of interest to me really. Gee Peggy you know what its like when the Arklow people close ranks on you, there are more nicknames of our rellies there than we will ever decipher or add the correct name to anyway Petal. More input for the years 1800-1900 would be of interest and intrigue. By the way I forgot to say that mostly the man married in the wifes parish...........not his so he would have brought with him his own witness wouldnt he? Cheers Cara

Hi Cara.. Now I'm thoroughly confused. Are you saying that, along with the first entry in the Parish Register, there is some other type of record, in which second, third and even fourth names might be listed? How can that be? I think we're all under the assumption that the first entry in the Parish Register is the "official" record? Enlighten me/us, please... Peggy p.s. I have a two page type written document of Arklow knicknames. Several people have helped to filled it in for me. You'd have laughed at the names AND the reasons, AND the discussions around the names. In a message dated 2/16/2009 3:11:12 A.M. Eastern Standard Time, [email protected] writes: Peggy I was not referring to the first entry in the Parish register but what was put on An actual registration that I have applied and paid for even the name changed when buried..( First name )......... so the Irish if they desired to be found certainly make it hard by adding in some cutesy things along the way **************A Good Credit Score is 700 or Above. See yours in just 2 easy steps! (http://pr.atwola.com/promoclk/100126575x1218822736x1201267884/aol?redir=http://www.freecreditreport.com/pm/default.aspx?sc=668072%26hmpgID=62%26bcd=fe bemailfooterNO62)