Hello; I would like to say that the name Coakley (spelled exactly) is on my wife's side of the family. What I do know of them is that they settled in the Margaree Valley, Cape Breton Island, Nova Scotia in the early 1800's. take care Brian > From: [email protected]> Subject: IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 139> To: [email protected]> Date: Sun, 12 Aug 2007 01:12:28 -0600> > > > Today's Topics:> > 1. Re: Corcoran and other surnames (Cara_Links)> 2. Re: Corcoran and other surnames (Cara_Links)> > > ----------------------------------------------------------------------> > Message: 1> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:34:23 +1000> From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Corcoran and other surnames> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > I would say in the beginning yes they were all related, perhaps by blood, > perhaps simply by the banner of the sept in the area.> Today I can only say, that some families did not have a lot of children, > war, famine, shortage of food etc etc, would have done a natural cull on the > generations following on, so therefore some of them were quite simmply > better breeders than others.> Much like today I reckon when it could be simply based on a gene pool, > thing, some are stronger than others.> > Colcough, was a strong name in Wexford and some of the children named in his > surname are not his, they simply were given the name, if there was no > father,> I have not proven the above but it is one of Cyrils wifes beliefs and she is > herself right into history of this family> > Cheers> Cara> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Simpson" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:19 AM> Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Corcoran and other surnames> > > > We have a Godmother to one of our great aunts who was a COAKELY.> > Supposing that if she was a Godmother she must almost certainly have> > been kith if not kin, I have searched around the south Cork registers (> > Templemichael, Dunderrow, Inishannon, Ballymartle ) for this name and> > only found a few - but was then informed that it could be written as> > COCHLAN / COGHLAN / COUGHLY....... or even COLCLOUGH! There were a> > few in and around, it certainly wasn't a common name. But were all> > these names related?? In other words, are all these names referring to> > the same " family " groups in the same way as, say all the O BRIEN are> > of the same family?> >> > And speaking of family ( or " Clan " ) surnames, one thing has always> > puzzled me. Surely not all those sharing the same surname can be of> > the same family? If your name is O SULLIVAN, could it mean that> > somewhere back your family was a either> > 1) related by blood> > 2) a servant, slave, retainer etc> > 3) just came from the area over which the O SULLIVAN'S had control> >> > And if they WERE all actually related, how come some names ( i.e.> > MURPHY, McCARTHY, O SULLIVAN etc etc ) have trillions of members, and> > others only a handful? Were some families just more pushy than others?> >> > Slan,> >> > Mary> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > Message: 2> Date: Sat, 11 Aug 2007 14:34:23 +1000> From: "Cara_Links" <[email protected]>> Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Corcoran and other surnames> To: <[email protected]>> Message-ID: <[email protected]>> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";> reply-type=original> > I would say in the beginning yes they were all related, perhaps by blood, > perhaps simply by the banner of the sept in the area.> Today I can only say, that some families did not have a lot of children, > war, famine, shortage of food etc etc, would have done a natural cull on the > generations following on, so therefore some of them were quite simmply > better breeders than others.> Much like today I reckon when it could be simply based on a gene pool, > thing, some are stronger than others.> > Colcough, was a strong name in Wexford and some of the children named in his > surname are not his, they simply were given the name, if there was no > father,> I have not proven the above but it is one of Cyrils wifes beliefs and she is > herself right into history of this family> > Cheers> Cara> ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Mary Simpson" <[email protected]>> To: <[email protected]>; <[email protected]>; > <[email protected]>> Sent: Saturday, August 11, 2007 12:19 AM> Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Corcoran and other surnames> > > > We have a Godmother to one of our great aunts who was a COAKELY.> > Supposing that if she was a Godmother she must almost certainly have> > been kith if not kin, I have searched around the south Cork registers (> > Templemichael, Dunderrow, Inishannon, Ballymartle ) for this name and> > only found a few - but was then informed that it could be written as> > COCHLAN / COGHLAN / COUGHLY....... or even COLCLOUGH! There were a> > few in and around, it certainly wasn't a common name. But were all> > these names related?? In other words, are all these names referring to> > the same " family " groups in the same way as, say all the O BRIEN are> > of the same family?> >> > And speaking of family ( or " Clan " ) surnames, one thing has always> > puzzled me. Surely not all those sharing the same surname can be of> > the same family? If your name is O SULLIVAN, could it mean that> > somewhere back your family was a either> > 1) related by blood> > 2) a servant, slave, retainer etc> > 3) just came from the area over which the O SULLIVAN'S had control> >> > And if they WERE all actually related, how come some names ( i.e.> > MURPHY, McCARTHY, O SULLIVAN etc etc ) have trillions of members, and> > others only a handful? Were some families just more pushy than others?> >> > Slan,> >> > Mary> >> >> > -------------------------------> > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > > quotes in the subject and the body of the message> > > > > > > ------------------------------> > To contact the IRL-WEXFORD list administrator, send an email to> [email protected]> > To post a message to the IRL-WEXFORD mailing list, send an email to [email protected]> > __________________________________________________________> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected]> with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the> email with no additional text.> > > End of IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 2, Issue 139> ******************************************* _________________________________________________________________ News, entertainment and everything you care about at Live.com. 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