My Ryan family are all from Wexford (Tomcoole townland in Kilbrideglynn) and I have a lot of information on them. I don't recognise the Michael Ryan you are seeking, but perhaps you have other information on him that would be useful. Can you expand on what you know about him ? Jim Ryan -----Original Message----- From: irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of irl-wexford-request@rootsweb.com Sent: 13 September 2010 08:01 To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com Subject: IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 87 Today's Topics: 1. Davidstown (Joan) ---------------------------------------------------------------------- Message: 1 Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 18:22:30 -0400 From: Joan <jenny4275@hotmail.com> Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Davidstown To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> Message-ID: <COL103-W32DE50CC9F06B8F1A42A15BD760@phx.gbl> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" In reply to my inquiry on Davidstown records, Beth kindly replied - I viewed the Davidstown, Wexford microfilm at the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. I think Salt Lake City has it. They will not send any RC church records to the local Family History Centers. There was an agreement with the Bishops in Ireland that allowed the Mormans to film records for safekeeping only. I'm not sure, but you may be able to view them if you go to Salt Lake City. I am interested in births from about the 1815 area. I see that the Signposting Index for Co. Wexford is also gone from the Rootsireland website. Has anyone else knowledge of a Michael Ryan that was born in Co. Wexford around 1815 and was in New York City by 1859? Joan > From: irl-wexford-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 86 > To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:00:28 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Davidstown & Barntown (Joan) > 2. Re: Davidstown & Barntown (Beth McBride) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:38:11 -0400 > From: Joan <jenny4275@hotmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Davidstown & Barntown > To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL103-W399DB14659D07211C01C41BD750@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Can anyone please tell me if the Family History Library has filmed the RC Parish registers of Davidstown and/or Barntown? I cant seem to see them there. Thank you. > Joan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:34:03 -0500 > From: Beth McBride <MCBETH7@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Davidstown & Barntown > To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <C0CD96A2-0CD5-4A7F-BB1E-F62480C2853E@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Joan, > I viewed the Davidstown, Wexford microfilm at the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. I think Salt Lake City has it. They will not send any RC church records to the local Family History Centers. There was an agreement with the Bishops in Ireland that allowed the Mormans to film records for safekeeping only. I'm not sure, but you may be able to view them if you go to Salt Lake City. > Beth > On Sep 11, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Joan wrote: > > > > > Can anyone please tell me if the Family History Library has filmed the RC Parish registers of Davidstown and/or Barntown? I cant seem to see them there. Thank you. > > Joan > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without > > the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-WEXFORD list administrator, send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-WEXFORD mailing list, send an email to IRL-WEXFORD@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without > the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 86 > ****************************************** ------------------------------ To contact the IRL-WEXFORD list administrator, send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-admin@rootsweb.com. To post a message to the IRL-WEXFORD mailing list, send an email to IRL-WEXFORD@rootsweb.com. __________________________________________________________ To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the email with no additional text. End of IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 87 ******************************************

The RC parish that served Davidstown & Barntown is called Glynn and it is available on microfilm. Jim Ryan

In reply to my inquiry on Davidstown records, Beth kindly replied - I viewed the Davidstown, Wexford microfilm at the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. I think Salt Lake City has it. They will not send any RC church records to the local Family History Centers. There was an agreement with the Bishops in Ireland that allowed the Mormans to film records for safekeeping only. I'm not sure, but you may be able to view them if you go to Salt Lake City. I am interested in births from about the 1815 area. I see that the Signposting Index for Co. Wexford is also gone from the Rootsireland website. Has anyone else knowledge of a Michael Ryan that was born in Co. Wexford around 1815 and was in New York City by 1859? Joan > From: irl-wexford-request@rootsweb.com > Subject: IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 86 > To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com > Date: Sun, 12 Sep 2010 01:00:28 -0600 > > > > Today's Topics: > > 1. Davidstown & Barntown (Joan) > 2. Re: Davidstown & Barntown (Beth McBride) > > > ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > > Message: 1 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:38:11 -0400 > From: Joan <jenny4275@hotmail.com> > Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Davidstown & Barntown > To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> > Message-ID: <COL103-W399DB14659D07211C01C41BD750@phx.gbl> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1" > > > Can anyone please tell me if the Family History Library has filmed the RC Parish registers of Davidstown and/or Barntown? I cant seem to see them there. Thank you. > Joan > > > ------------------------------ > > Message: 2 > Date: Sat, 11 Sep 2010 19:34:03 -0500 > From: Beth McBride <MCBETH7@aol.com> > Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Davidstown & Barntown > To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com > Message-ID: <C0CD96A2-0CD5-4A7F-BB1E-F62480C2853E@aol.com> > Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii > > Joan, > I viewed the Davidstown, Wexford microfilm at the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. I think Salt Lake City has it. They will not send any RC church records to the local Family History Centers. There was an agreement with the Bishops in Ireland that allowed the Mormans to film records for safekeeping only. I'm not sure, but you may be able to view them if you go to Salt Lake City. > Beth > On Sep 11, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Joan wrote: > > > > > Can anyone please tell me if the Family History Library has filmed the RC Parish registers of Davidstown and/or Barntown? I cant seem to see them there. Thank you. > > Joan > > > > > > ------------------------------- > > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > > ------------------------------ > > To contact the IRL-WEXFORD list administrator, send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-admin@rootsweb.com. > > To post a message to the IRL-WEXFORD mailing list, send an email to IRL-WEXFORD@rootsweb.com. > > __________________________________________________________ > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com > with the word "unsubscribe" without the quotes in the subject and the body of the > email with no additional text. > > > End of IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 86 > ******************************************

Can anyone please tell me if the Family History Library has filmed the RC Parish registers of Davidstown and/or Barntown? I cant seem to see them there. Thank you. Joan

Joan, I viewed the Davidstown, Wexford microfilm at the National Library of Ireland in Dublin. I think Salt Lake City has it. They will not send any RC church records to the local Family History Centers. There was an agreement with the Bishops in Ireland that allowed the Mormans to film records for safekeeping only. I'm not sure, but you may be able to view them if you go to Salt Lake City. Beth On Sep 11, 2010, at 6:38 PM, Joan wrote: > > Can anyone please tell me if the Family History Library has filmed the RC Parish registers of Davidstown and/or Barntown? I cant seem to see them there. Thank you. > Joan > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Jebois is listed as a son in an Irish family I'm researching. -----Original Message----- From: Maribeth E. Nolan <nolanme@verizon.net> To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com Sent: Mon, Aug 30, 2010 7:13 pm Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Jebois I'm wondering if it isn't "duBois"? -------------------------------------------------- rom: "Maurice Charette" <mfcharette@shaw.ca> ent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:39 PM o: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> ubject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Jebois > I would say a close translation would be (I am Wood). Maurice Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Jebois > Does the name Jebois have an English equivalent? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message ------------------------------ o unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com ith the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of he message

I'm wondering if it isn't "duBois"? -------------------------------------------------- From: "Maurice Charette" <mfcharette@shaw.ca> Sent: Monday, August 30, 2010 6:39 PM To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Jebois > I would say a close translation would be (I am Wood). > > Maurice > > Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Jebois > > >> Does the name Jebois have an English equivalent? >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

I would say a close translation would be (I am Wood). Maurice Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Jebois > Does the name Jebois have an English equivalent? > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Does the name Jebois have an English equivalent?

Hi That information looks to me like a LDS film. If you go to their Pilot family search http://pilot.familysearch.org/recordsearch/start.html#start and click on Ireland and enter those marriage details you may come up with the details to enable you to order the certificate from http://www.groireland.ie/ Download the marriage order form. You can fill it out with the details you have obtained. make sure you order the photocopy of the certificate. It is only 6 euros. I have used my credit card several times and the certificate arrives in about 4 weeks. I can't remember which one but there wasn't a space for Volume or page on one of the forms. I just added it in and had no problems. Regards Camilla -------------------------------------------------- From: <PATROBISON@aol.com> Sent: Thursday, August 26, 2010 6:09 AM To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Marriage Records > I am new to this site and am trying to feel my way around. > > I have found the following Marriage Record and I am trying to determine if > this couple came to the Americas and if they had any children in Ireland > or > US? How would I go about locating this information for Ireland? Any > brothers and sister etc. Where would I locate census records for Ireland, > are > they on the Internet? > > Groom's Name: James Sinnott > Groom's Birth Date: 1834 > Groom's Birthplace: > Groom's Age: 30 > Bride's Name: Mary Sinnott > Bride's Birth Date: 1841 > Bride's Birthplace: > Bride's Age: 23 > Marriage Date: 08 Sep 1864 > Marriage Place: Wexford, Wex, Ireland > Groom's Father's Name: Nicholas Sinnott > Groom's Mother's Name: > Bride's Father's Name: Peter Sinnott > Bride's Mother's Name: > Groom's Race: > Groom's Marital Status: Single > Groom's Previous Wife's Name: > Bride's Race: > Bride's Marital Status: Single > Bride's Previous Husband's Name: > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70231-5 > System Origin: Ireland-EASy > Source Film Number: 101465 > Reference Number: 492 > Collection: Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898 > > Thanks. > Pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Hi Edd, Good to hear from you too. I am excited to make contact with some Sinnett/Sinot connections. I know very little about my ancestors. Except that they seemed to spell their name differently all the time. Probably not them but the census takers, record keepers, etc. spelled it like they thought it sound. My g grandmother Mary Alice Sinnet m. Joshua Rogers Robinson. Her parents were Mary and Michael Sinnet. The 1860 US census record shows that Michael was born in Ireland, Mary in VA and Mary Alice and her brother Michael in Maryland. I found a 1868 Mineral County, West Virginia, death certificate for a Michael Sannet b. Ireland, parents James and Mary Sannet. The rest is a mystery to me. Pat In a message dated 8/25/2010 4:22:57 P.M. Central Daylight Time, edd73@embarqmail.com writes: Hi Pat: Excited to read your post but unfortunately I do not know of any connection to your James and Mary Sinnott, at this time. I am also researching my Sinnott line from The Castletown/Gorey area of Co Wexford starting with James b.abt.1737 married to Ann Connor b. abt.1741 my 5GGrandfather. His Grandson Thomas b. in 1796 emigrated to New Brunswick,Can in 182, My Grandfather Willard Austin Sinnett moved to Lowell,Ma in 1899, where my father b. in 1903 was the first U.S. born Sinnett Please keep in touch................ Edd Sinnett ( Jr. ) in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: <PATROBISON@aol.com> To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Marriage Records I am new to this site and am trying to feel my way around. I have found the following Marriage Record and I am trying to determine if this couple came to the Americas and if they had any children in Ireland or US? How would I go about locating this information for Ireland? Any brothers and sister etc. Where would I locate census records for Ireland, are they on the Internet? Groom's Name: James Sinnott > Groom's Birth Date: 1834 > Groom's Birthplace: > Groom's Age: 30 > Bride's Name: Mary Sinnot > Bride's Birth Date: 1841 > Bride's Birthplace: > Bride's Age: 23 > Marriage Date: 08 Sep 1864 > Marriage Place: Wexford, Wex, Ireland > Groom's Father's Name: Nicholas Sinnott > Groom's Mother's Name: > Bride's Father's Name: Peter Sinnott > Bride's Mother's Name: > Groom's Race: > Groom's Marital Status: Single > Groom's Previous Wife's Name: > Bride's Race: > Bride's Marital Status: Single > Bride's Previous Husband's Name: > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70231-5 > System Origin: Ireland-EASy > Source Film Number: 101465 > Reference Number: 492 > Collection: Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898 > > Thanks. > Pat >

Hi Pat: Excited to read your post but unfortunately I do not know of any connection to your James and Mary Sinnott, at this time. I am also researching my Sinnott line from The Castletown/Gorey area of Co Wexford starting with James b.abt.1737 married to Ann Connor b. abt.1741 my 5GGrandfather. His Grandson Thomas b. in 1796 emigrated to New Brunswick,Can in 182, My Grandfather Willard Austin Sinnett moved to Lowell,Ma in 1899, where my father b. in 1903 was the first U.S. born Sinnett Please keep in touch................ Edd Sinnett ( Jr. ) in Florida ----- Original Message ----- From: <PATROBISON@aol.com> To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Wednesday, August 25, 2010 4:09 PM Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Marriage Records I am new to this site and am trying to feel my way around. I have found the following Marriage Record and I am trying to determine if this couple came to the Americas and if they had any children in Ireland or US? How would I go about locating this information for Ireland? Any brothers and sister etc. Where would I locate census records for Ireland, are they on the Internet? Groom's Name: James Sinnott > Groom's Birth Date: 1834 > Groom's Birthplace: > Groom's Age: 30 > Bride's Name: Mary Sinnot > Bride's Birth Date: 1841 > Bride's Birthplace: > Bride's Age: 23 > Marriage Date: 08 Sep 1864 > Marriage Place: Wexford, Wex, Ireland > Groom's Father's Name: Nicholas Sinnott > Groom's Mother's Name: > Bride's Father's Name: Peter Sinnott > Bride's Mother's Name: > Groom's Race: > Groom's Marital Status: Single > Groom's Previous Wife's Name: > Bride's Race: > Bride's Marital Status: Single > Bride's Previous Husband's Name: > Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70231-5 > System Origin: Ireland-EASy > Source Film Number: 101465 > Reference Number: 492 > Collection: Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898 > > Thanks. > Pat > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message -- I am using the free version of SPAMfighter. We are a community of 7 million users fighting spam. SPAMfighter has removed 12 of my spam emails to date. Get the free SPAMfighter here: http://www.spamfighter.com/len The Professional version does not have this message

      Only 2 Irish census are available; 1901 and 1911.  They are on line.  GOOGLE  for the exact site.  I am not at home or I would send it to you.        Do you have a townland for this SINNOTT family?  It is a common Wexford surname. If this data is from Family Search.  Go to the General Records County Roscommon website.  They are for all of Ireland (Civil Records)  Click on Birth Records on the tool bar.  There is a form which you can use for birth-marriage-death.  Fill in with your information from LDS.  The fee is also there.  You can use Credit cards for the main one.  Did you check out USA census??   Mary Ellen Chambers --- On Wed, 8/25/10, PATROBISON@aol.com <PATROBISON@aol.com> wrote: From: PATROBISON@aol.com <PATROBISON@aol.com> Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Marriage Records To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com Date: Wednesday, August 25, 2010, 4:09 PM I am new to this site and am trying to feel my way around. I have found the following Marriage Record and I am trying to determine if  this couple came to the Americas and if they had any children in Ireland or US?  How would I go about locating this information for Ireland?  Any  brothers and sister etc.  Where would I locate census records for Ireland,  are they on the Internet? Groom's Name: James Sinnott Groom's Birth Date: 1834 Groom's  Birthplace: Groom's Age: 30 Bride's Name: Mary Sinnott Bride's Birth  Date: 1841 Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: 23 Marriage Date: 08 Sep  1864 Marriage Place: Wexford, Wex, Ireland Groom's Father's Name: Nicholas  Sinnott Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Peter  Sinnott Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status:  Single Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital  Status: Single Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch)  Number: M70231-5 System Origin: Ireland-EASy Source Film Number:  101465 Reference Number: 492 Collection: Ireland Marriages,  1619-1898 Thanks. Pat ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

I am new to this site and am trying to feel my way around. I have found the following Marriage Record and I am trying to determine if this couple came to the Americas and if they had any children in Ireland or US? How would I go about locating this information for Ireland? Any brothers and sister etc. Where would I locate census records for Ireland, are they on the Internet? Groom's Name: James Sinnott Groom's Birth Date: 1834 Groom's Birthplace: Groom's Age: 30 Bride's Name: Mary Sinnott Bride's Birth Date: 1841 Bride's Birthplace: Bride's Age: 23 Marriage Date: 08 Sep 1864 Marriage Place: Wexford, Wex, Ireland Groom's Father's Name: Nicholas Sinnott Groom's Mother's Name: Bride's Father's Name: Peter Sinnott Bride's Mother's Name: Groom's Race: Groom's Marital Status: Single Groom's Previous Wife's Name: Bride's Race: Bride's Marital Status: Single Bride's Previous Husband's Name: Indexing Project (Batch) Number: M70231-5 System Origin: Ireland-EASy Source Film Number: 101465 Reference Number: 492 Collection: Ireland Marriages, 1619-1898 Thanks. Pat

Janet, I am very appreciative of your helpful comments-I'll certainly later today look at the book reference on Google you have so kindly supplied . Thanks John -----Original Message----- From: irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Crawford Sent: Wednesday, 4 August 2010 6:11 a.m. To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Looking for my gggrandfather & gggrandmother John, I looked on my Cromwellian Adventurers cd and could not find William Handcock listed, however, that doesn't mean he was not an Adventurer. Many people pooled their subscriptions and appointed one man to draw land for them. Later the land was divided up among the individual subscribers, some of whose names are still not known. The next step would be to go through the Grants for Ireland and even possible the Inquisitions. Those books can be found in London and in the National Library in Dublin. Even then, if not listed there, he could still be an Adventurer because an enormous amount of trading went on before the draw for land, and after, and all of these trades are not recorded. One might also have been awarded land in one county but ended up with land in a different county after a trade. If your man came to Ireland before the war, he was more likely a merchant or a preacher, not saying he was not an Adventurer also. There were quite a few Irish names on the list of Adventurers as well. Could be your man bought land off an Adventurer. You might try to find The Cromwellian Settlement of Ireland, 1651-1660" by John P. Prendergast on Google books to help you understand the process. Co. Tipperary was special. There were 4 baronies that were distributed amoung the soldiers, but the rest of the county, the best lands, were alloted off to VIP's and Cromwell's favorites, and these are some of the hardest to ferret out. Some of Cromwell's officers ripped off the soldiers when buying their alloted land. There is not a good, complete list of the soldiers who received land in lieu of pay anywhere that I know about. Janet On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 12:37 AM, John Rose <jdrose@xtra.co.nz> wrote: > Janet, I have no background on the topic of your reply to Peggy but note > your comments about Adventurers in the Cromwell Wars. I would appreciate it > greatly if you could give me some references that I may be able to look up > to the Adventurers or even soldiers with Cromwell as I have a very distant > ancestor of my mother - Willam Handcock of Twyford near Athlone -who may, an > unverified source says, may have come with Cromwell's troops or been some > such as an "adventurer".   He is reputed to have been granted lands  in Co > Westmeath about the 1640s. Going back that far is not easy from distant NZ > where  I live. William's descendants are reasonably well documented as in > 17th and 18th centuries etc have been mostly traced there as they were > fairly prominent. My mother's father came out here in 1862 as a 17 year old > lad from a glebe in the now Co Laois where his father was a C of I minister. >  John D Rose 27 Shipherds Ave Epsom Auckland 1023  NZ > > -----Original Message----- > From: irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com > [mailto:irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Crawford > Sent: Tuesday, 3 August 2010 8:00 a.m. > To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com > Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Looking for my gggrandfather & gggrandmother > > Peggy, I can give you some general information about the Harding > family. Murphy is a great Wexford name, but it may be that your > Harding family was not really from there, just that he married there > and perhaps sailed from there. > While you are searching in Wexford, you also need to know that there > were some Hardings in the area of Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and those > records would be in Waterford & Lismore diocese. There was also a > small branch in Cork, seemingly Cork City. > The bulk of them, however, were in Co. Limerick around Oola for the > most part, in Tipp near Oola, and around Nenagh/Silvermines in the > north of Tipp. They start with a family from London who were white > bread bakers and who invested as Adventurers during the Cromwellian > War. After the war at least 2 brothers and a sister and there children > left London and came to Ireland, to Oola, c. 1655. > My 2nd Gr-Grandmother was a Harding. I looked through the records I > have from Tipperary and can't find your Richard, but I do not have all > the Limerick records, nor the Waterford or Cork records, and, for the > most part, the Tipp records start too late to perhaps pick up your > Richard. > Please contact me directly and we will see what else we might be able > to determine from what you know. > > Janet > > On Mon, Aug 2, 2010 at 7:28 PM, teragram4 <mtgenealogy43@gmail.com> wrote: >> No I do not know Bridget Murphy's parents or siblings. >> Richard & Bridget had 8 children, I believe they were all born in Port > Hood >> Nova Scotia. >> John Harding is mt great grandfather. He married Ellen Doyle from East >> Mabou. They had 7 children, Four of the seven came to Boston. John Harding > ( >> my Grandfather) his brother James, his sister Mary Ellen (married name is >> Shaughnessy) and Clara. They all died in the Boston area. >> >> Peggy in Chandler AZ, previously from Boston Ma. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Re Hardings in Cork: I am away at the moment - holidaying by the sea! And loving it too, and so do not have my 'stuff' to hand. But I'll get back to this when I get home in a week or so. Don't think I've forgotten! Hilda

Margaret, I have very few Limerick records except those in the diocese of Cashel & Emly along the Tipp border. You should be able to pick her up in IFHF for Limerick now that you can put in a mother's name for a child. I don't have her in Tipp, so your next best chance after Limerick would be Co. Clare. Janet On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:19 PM, Margaret Spearin <margaretspearin@eircom.net> wrote: > Hi Janet > I have an Ellen Harding and Luke Spearin baptising their child Catherine in > St Michaels RC church in 1862. I have no idea where she came from, and cant > find her after that. I also have a record for an Ellen Harding marriage to > Thomas Stier a soldier in the 9th in St Johns COI Limerick City in 1856. His > father was Johia Stier and her fther was James Harding. > I would love to know more about the families who were in Limerick > > Margaret > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Janet Crawford" <reojan@gmail.com> > To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:32 PM > Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 80 > > > Hi Hilda, Yes, although there was a Norman Harding surname from my > research it appears that the Hardings were actually all descended from > Giles and his brothers at the time of the Cromwellian War. They may be > related somehow to the older Norman group but there is no way to prove > that either way. > > Giles was a white bread baker, and this was a special title. He did > not make the ordinary brown bread that most people ate at the time, so > he was a little above the brown beread makers. Sounds silly today, but > in the trades it meant something back then. > Giles had enough money and became quite an Adventurer and traded land > certificate several times. There are several entries about him and his > family in the Grants. > He ended up with land along the Tipperary/Limerick border area around > Oola. I can find Giles and his family in the records for London, but > there are no records in Ireland after the family immigrated until the > early 1800's. I have found that Giles had a son, Ambrose, who lived > near Monard on the road to Cullen. Ambrose was also long-lived and > didn't die until sometime after 1750. My Mary likely descends from > him, but no records to show how. Monard was very close to the > Quillinan farm in Soloheadbeg. > There is one other Mary Harding from Silvermines who might be the > correct Mary as we cannot find a marriage record or a tombstone for > her in Silvermines. Could be a marriage was arranged between the > family branch in the north and my man. > I can't tell which of the brothers or their sons went to Silvermines, > but after that I have quite a few records, and I have most Harding > records from Tipperary. > Please tell me what you know about the Cork branch. I only have a few > records. I am dying to know more about them. > > Looks like c. 1659 we had these Hardings: > > A Robert Harding held Dromenagh and Crooke in Gaultire in 1659 > > A Nichodemus Harding held P/O St. Finbarr's in Cork City > > In Condon & Clangibbon, a Harding held Halbollin Is. [From Giles I am > pretty sure.) > > If you want to contact me directly so we can share what we both have, > please do. But please share a bit on the list to attract other > Hardings back to the fold. > > Janet > > > > On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:18 AM,  <HildaNic@aol.com> wrote: >> >> While you are searching in Wexford, you also need to know that there >> were some Hardings in the area of Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and those >> records would be in Waterford & Lismore diocese. There was also a >> small branch in Cork, seemingly Cork City. >> >> >> >> Dear Peggy & Janet, >> I am descended from the Cork branch of the Hardings. I do have a Richard >> Harding, but born is 1859 in Ballycotton, Cork. These Hardings were mostly >> involved with the sea: fishermen, naval officers, lighthouse keepers. I >> would love to know more about the origin of the Hardings in Ireland - did >> they >> all descend from the Cromwellian Adverturers? >> Looking forward to hearing more on this topic! >> Hilda >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to >> IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the >> quotes in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Folks not sure how relevant this is, but there were Giles and Harding Families in the North Wexford areas- Gorey, Glandoran, Courtown, Ballinamona, Camolin, and Ballyduffbeg, also Harding families around the New Ross areas. Cheers John G. -----Original Message----- From: irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com [mailto:irl-wexford-bounces@rootsweb.com] On Behalf Of Janet Crawford Sent: 03 August 2010 19:32 To: irl-wexford@rootsweb.com Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 80 Hi Hilda, Yes, although there was a Norman Harding surname from my research it appears that the Hardings were actually all descended from Giles and his brothers at the time of the Cromwellian War. They may be related somehow to the older Norman group but there is no way to prove that either way. Giles was a white bread baker, and this was a special title. He did not make the ordinary brown bread that most people ate at the time, so he was a little above the brown beread makers. Sounds silly today, but in the trades it meant something back then. Giles had enough money and became quite an Adventurer and traded land certificate several times. There are several entries about him and his family in the Grants. He ended up with land along the Tipperary/Limerick border area around Oola. I can find Giles and his family in the records for London, but there are no records in Ireland after the family immigrated until the early 1800's. I have found that Giles had a son, Ambrose, who lived near Monard on the road to Cullen. Ambrose was also long-lived and didn't die until sometime after 1750. My Mary likely descends from him, but no records to show how. Monard was very close to the Quillinan farm in Soloheadbeg. There is one other Mary Harding from Silvermines who might be the correct Mary as we cannot find a marriage record or a tombstone for her in Silvermines. Could be a marriage was arranged between the family branch in the north and my man. I can't tell which of the brothers or their sons went to Silvermines, but after that I have quite a few records, and I have most Harding records from Tipperary. Please tell me what you know about the Cork branch. I only have a few records. I am dying to know more about them. Looks like c. 1659 we had these Hardings: A Robert Harding held Dromenagh and Crooke in Gaultire in 1659 A Nichodemus Harding held P/O St. Finbarr's in Cork City In Condon & Clangibbon, a Harding held Halbollin Is. [From Giles I am pretty sure.) If you want to contact me directly so we can share what we both have, please do. But please share a bit on the list to attract other Hardings back to the fold. Janet On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:18 AM, <HildaNic@aol.com> wrote: > > While you are searching in Wexford, you also need to know that  there > were some Hardings in the area of Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and  those > records would be in Waterford & Lismore diocese. There was also  a > small branch in Cork, seemingly Cork City. > > > > Dear Peggy &  Janet, > I am descended from the  Cork branch of the Hardings. I do have a Richard > Harding, but born is 1859 in  Ballycotton, Cork. These Hardings were mostly > involved with the sea: fishermen,  naval officers, lighthouse keepers. I > would love to know more about the origin  of the Hardings in Ireland - did  they > all descend from the Cromwellian  Adverturers? > Looking forward to hearing  more on this topic! > Hilda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Janet I have an Ellen Harding and Luke Spearin baptising their child Catherine in St Michaels RC church in 1862. I have no idea where she came from, and cant find her after that. I also have a record for an Ellen Harding marriage to Thomas Stier a soldier in the 9th in St Johns COI Limerick City in 1856. His father was Johia Stier and her fther was James Harding. I would love to know more about the families who were in Limerick Margaret ----- Original Message ----- From: "Janet Crawford" <reojan@gmail.com> To: <irl-wexford@rootsweb.com> Sent: Tuesday, August 03, 2010 7:32 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] IRL-WEXFORD Digest, Vol 5, Issue 80 Hi Hilda, Yes, although there was a Norman Harding surname from my research it appears that the Hardings were actually all descended from Giles and his brothers at the time of the Cromwellian War. They may be related somehow to the older Norman group but there is no way to prove that either way. Giles was a white bread baker, and this was a special title. He did not make the ordinary brown bread that most people ate at the time, so he was a little above the brown beread makers. Sounds silly today, but in the trades it meant something back then. Giles had enough money and became quite an Adventurer and traded land certificate several times. There are several entries about him and his family in the Grants. He ended up with land along the Tipperary/Limerick border area around Oola. I can find Giles and his family in the records for London, but there are no records in Ireland after the family immigrated until the early 1800's. I have found that Giles had a son, Ambrose, who lived near Monard on the road to Cullen. Ambrose was also long-lived and didn't die until sometime after 1750. My Mary likely descends from him, but no records to show how. Monard was very close to the Quillinan farm in Soloheadbeg. There is one other Mary Harding from Silvermines who might be the correct Mary as we cannot find a marriage record or a tombstone for her in Silvermines. Could be a marriage was arranged between the family branch in the north and my man. I can't tell which of the brothers or their sons went to Silvermines, but after that I have quite a few records, and I have most Harding records from Tipperary. Please tell me what you know about the Cork branch. I only have a few records. I am dying to know more about them. Looks like c. 1659 we had these Hardings: A Robert Harding held Dromenagh and Crooke in Gaultire in 1659 A Nichodemus Harding held P/O St. Finbarr's in Cork City In Condon & Clangibbon, a Harding held Halbollin Is. [From Giles I am pretty sure.) If you want to contact me directly so we can share what we both have, please do. But please share a bit on the list to attract other Hardings back to the fold. Janet On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:18 AM, <HildaNic@aol.com> wrote: > > While you are searching in Wexford, you also need to know that there > were some Hardings in the area of Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and those > records would be in Waterford & Lismore diocese. There was also a > small branch in Cork, seemingly Cork City. > > > > Dear Peggy & Janet, > I am descended from the Cork branch of the Hardings. I do have a Richard > Harding, but born is 1859 in Ballycotton, Cork. These Hardings were mostly > involved with the sea: fishermen, naval officers, lighthouse keepers. I > would love to know more about the origin of the Hardings in Ireland - did > they > all descend from the Cromwellian Adverturers? > Looking forward to hearing more on this topic! > Hilda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Hi Hilda, Yes, although there was a Norman Harding surname from my research it appears that the Hardings were actually all descended from Giles and his brothers at the time of the Cromwellian War. They may be related somehow to the older Norman group but there is no way to prove that either way. Giles was a white bread baker, and this was a special title. He did not make the ordinary brown bread that most people ate at the time, so he was a little above the brown beread makers. Sounds silly today, but in the trades it meant something back then. Giles had enough money and became quite an Adventurer and traded land certificate several times. There are several entries about him and his family in the Grants. He ended up with land along the Tipperary/Limerick border area around Oola. I can find Giles and his family in the records for London, but there are no records in Ireland after the family immigrated until the early 1800's. I have found that Giles had a son, Ambrose, who lived near Monard on the road to Cullen. Ambrose was also long-lived and didn't die until sometime after 1750. My Mary likely descends from him, but no records to show how. Monard was very close to the Quillinan farm in Soloheadbeg. There is one other Mary Harding from Silvermines who might be the correct Mary as we cannot find a marriage record or a tombstone for her in Silvermines. Could be a marriage was arranged between the family branch in the north and my man. I can't tell which of the brothers or their sons went to Silvermines, but after that I have quite a few records, and I have most Harding records from Tipperary. Please tell me what you know about the Cork branch. I only have a few records. I am dying to know more about them. Looks like c. 1659 we had these Hardings: A Robert Harding held Dromenagh and Crooke in Gaultire in 1659 A Nichodemus Harding held P/O St. Finbarr's in Cork City In Condon & Clangibbon, a Harding held Halbollin Is. [From Giles I am pretty sure.) If you want to contact me directly so we can share what we both have, please do. But please share a bit on the list to attract other Hardings back to the fold. Janet On Tue, Aug 3, 2010 at 8:18 AM, <HildaNic@aol.com> wrote: > > While you are searching in Wexford, you also need to know that  there > were some Hardings in the area of Clonmel, Co. Tipperary and  those > records would be in Waterford & Lismore diocese. There was also  a > small branch in Cork, seemingly Cork City. > > > > Dear Peggy &  Janet, > I am descended from the  Cork branch of the Hardings. I do have a Richard > Harding, but born is 1859 in  Ballycotton, Cork. These Hardings were mostly > involved with the sea: fishermen,  naval officers, lighthouse keepers. I > would love to know more about the origin  of the Hardings in Ireland - did  they > all descend from the Cromwellian  Adverturers? > Looking forward to hearing  more on this topic! > Hilda > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD-request@rootsweb.com with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message >