Jim; You are correct, there is no harsher war than that between brothers or countrymen. Look at the US Civil War. The worst ever fought. In 70 years I have studied much. I am no longer Catholic or Prodesrant. But allow me to tell you this; after years of research into both religionand politics, the catholic church has much to answer for. I have no axes to grind, that is a simple statement of fact. Thom Sutton ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Roache" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Saturday, June 16, 2007 4:12 PM Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] Musgrave's Report > Now I don't want to start a flame war - I had ancestors killed at New Ross > (Republicans). There were atrocities on both sides - but what went on > prior > to the rebellion would have given me reason to fight I think (or would > like > to think). In any event, I read Musgrave's Report - simply to provide a > balance to most of the information I have been exposed to in the past - > knowing that both sides would naturally see things from their own > perspective (See Hemingway's "For Whom the Bell Tolls"). > > Musgrave was difficult for me to read - perhaps not 100% accurate any more > than materials from (our) side are. But it was in fact not allowed to be > published at the time - the authorities feared that it might well start > things up all over again. It was many years before it was published, and > is > in most reference libraries or available through interlibrary loan. > > Many who started the rebellion, looking to France and the US, were > idealists > and Protestant - some were well to do and therefore had a lot on the line. > They soon realized they had unleashed a worldwind however, and many > stepped > back, leaving the more militant on both sides to go at it. This did not > save > many of them in the end and they were either killed in skirmishes or > later - > after trial - by execution. > > It must be said that there were great acts of heroism and humanity on both > sides - with many laying their lives on the line to try to save people > from > the other side. > > A side bar (unknown to many) is that there was an aborted rebellion in > Newfoundland in 1800 because many United Irishmen were members of British > Regiments stationed there. > > They plotted a violent take over because things there were much as in > Ireland - Penal Laws and all - but the RC Bishop got wind of it (some say > through the confessional). He alerted the British Officers, and the > Irishmen > were taken. Several were hanged in NF, and the rest taken to Halifax > because > authorities feared the Irish populace just might rise up at the sight of > too > many hangings and lashings. > > The Bishop was rewarded with a pension from the government of 50 pounds > upon > his retirement back to Co Wexford in old age. After some time there, he > was > reading in a chair and a candle "fell" catching him on fire. It took him 6 > days to die. > > But his letters of the day are somewhat appalling. He - like many in the > Church hierarchy was pro establishment (or to be more fair - pro law and > order - frightened by out-of-control mob violence, no matter how > justified). > Some of what he says in writing about the Irish Republicans and about the > men hanged in NF (to whom he gave final rites) is rather unseemly to put > it > mildly. > > But I think people should read both sides - taking each with a grain of > salt - history is like that - as is journalism - afterall. It is forgotten > that many said they regretted ever following Father Roche (at New Ross and > Wexford) - and General Roche is rarely mentioned because he and some > followers either took or were given poison and died in their cells rather > than be publicly butchered. > > I am not related to either - so far as I know - but I suspect they knew > they > had little chance of winning, and hoped to send a message without things > becoming too extreme. Both saved many Protestant?Loyalist lives and many > Protests/Loyalists saved RC/Protestant/Republican lives --- this as a > counterbalance to the atrocities, as I see it. War is like that. > > Just my two cents worth. I hope it helps. > > Jim > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

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Now I don't want to start a flame war - I had ancestors killed at New Ross (Republicans). There were atrocities on both sides - but what went on prior to the rebellion would have given me reason to fight I think (or would like to think). In any event, I read Musgrave's Report - simply to provide a balance to most of the information I have been exposed to in the past - knowing that both sides would naturally see things from their own perspective (See Hemingway's "For Whom the Bell Tolls"). Musgrave was difficult for me to read - perhaps not 100% accurate any more than materials from (our) side are. But it was in fact not allowed to be published at the time - the authorities feared that it might well start things up all over again. It was many years before it was published, and is in most reference libraries or available through interlibrary loan. Many who started the rebellion, looking to France and the US, were idealists and Protestant - some were well to do and therefore had a lot on the line. They soon realized they had unleashed a worldwind however, and many stepped back, leaving the more militant on both sides to go at it. This did not save many of them in the end and they were either killed in skirmishes or later - after trial - by execution. It must be said that there were great acts of heroism and humanity on both sides - with many laying their lives on the line to try to save people from the other side. A side bar (unknown to many) is that there was an aborted rebellion in Newfoundland in 1800 because many United Irishmen were members of British Regiments stationed there. They plotted a violent take over because things there were much as in Ireland - Penal Laws and all - but the RC Bishop got wind of it (some say through the confessional). He alerted the British Officers, and the Irishmen were taken. Several were hanged in NF, and the rest taken to Halifax because authorities feared the Irish populace just might rise up at the sight of too many hangings and lashings. The Bishop was rewarded with a pension from the government of 50 pounds upon his retirement back to Co Wexford in old age. After some time there, he was reading in a chair and a candle "fell" catching him on fire. It took him 6 days to die. But his letters of the day are somewhat appalling. He - like many in the Church hierarchy was pro establishment (or to be more fair - pro law and order - frightened by out-of-control mob violence, no matter how justified). Some of what he says in writing about the Irish Republicans and about the men hanged in NF (to whom he gave final rites) is rather unseemly to put it mildly. But I think people should read both sides - taking each with a grain of salt - history is like that - as is journalism - afterall. It is forgotten that many said they regretted ever following Father Roche (at New Ross and Wexford) - and General Roche is rarely mentioned because he and some followers either took or were given poison and died in their cells rather than be publicly butchered. I am not related to either - so far as I know - but I suspect they knew they had little chance of winning, and hoped to send a message without things becoming too extreme. Both saved many Protestant?Loyalist lives and many Protests/Loyalists saved RC/Protestant/Republican lives --- this as a counterbalance to the atrocities, as I see it. War is like that. Just my two cents worth. I hope it helps. Jim

The records I have access to are filmed copies of the typed published indexes of the Irish Civil Registrations filmed by the LDS. Cheers Valerie -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of Cara_Links Sent: Thursday, 14 June 2007 6:32 PM To: [email protected] Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] CIVIL REGISTRATIONS Valerie are these the LDS civil registrations because if they are they are not complete? so therefore any lister requesting a lookup needs to know this, so dissapointment can be avoided and also most of the data is Church of Ireland on the CD"S Cara ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

ALL_Co Wexford Elinor C. Hore widow resided Harperstown - House damage -garden claimed 20 ounds9s 7d no record of payment.She also claimed on behalf of William Hore for Gates Locks Trees Cut Down claiming 20 pound no record of payment. John Hore -farmer lived Windmill Hill Wexford claimed for a filly (horse not a girl) 6 pound 16/-6d. No record of claim paid Thomas Hore -farmer lived Windmill Hills claimed for a horse 5pound 13/-9d no record of claim paid. Rev Thomas Hore Rector of Kiltennel Co Wexford Claimed for Horses Saddles Bridles -claim of 55pound 19/3d. claim paid. ----- Original Message ----- From: "VIOLA HOAR" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 11:06 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] 1798 Rebellion Claimants -source can be found > Hi cara, > I too am interested in the 1798 Rebellion Claimants and have > tried to pull it up on line but one souce wanted $42.00 for the info. can > you help me ? I also have seen how a Wexford man was killed on the wexford > Bridge at that same period. This arouses my curiosity because our > ancestors (Hoare( were from wexford and the information passes down to us > is that the Hoares were ? forced to leave Ireland (and it must have been > for something pretty important). ? of the troubles in Wexford? Hope you > can give me some insight. > Thank You > [email protected] > > Cara_Links <[email protected]> wrote: > In Cara's Office so what name is this grandfather Beth? > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

No Hickey name found in Carlow BUT Charles Hickey -pensioner residence Ramsgrange( Near Gorey) County calimed for house repairs and furniture claimed 12 pounds 1s 7d and was allowed 10 pounds 5s and 9d. No Keogh's in Wicklow Carlow but in Wexford John Keogh resided New Ross Claimed for Houses burned furniture and Cloaths ( sic) he claimed 129 pounds and 14s 2d no claim paid. Thomas Keogh Gorey Co Wexford claimed Thread and FurnitureClaimed 3 pounds 3s and 11d claim paid. Cheers Cara Wexford ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 2:13 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] 1798 Rebellion Claimants -source can be found > Cara, > > Is it easy for you to look up names? If it is - would you be so kind as > to > check for Kehoes (Keoghs) from Carlow/Wicklow/Wexford and Hickeys from > Carlow/Wicklow/Wexford? I don't know first names around that date, just > approx > location of residence - Clonegall Parish Carlow/Wicklow/Wexford area - > where > the county borders meet. If the search is name by name, forget the > request; it > fear it will take to much time and trouble for you. > > Thanks very much for your consideration. > > Maureen N > > > > ************************************** See what's free at > http://www.aol.com. > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Valerie are these the LDS civil registrations because if they are they are not complete? so therefore any lister requesting a lookup needs to know this, so dissapointment can be avoided and also most of the data is Church of Ireland on the CD"S Cara

Hi Mark Thanks for the email,Martin Kehoe married in Liverpool in 1885 to Mary Dobbin of Killeshin Co Carlow ,his family 4 daughters and 3 sons none left any families the name not carried on Les ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mark/Ali" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 5:42 PM Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] Fever hospital Kilmananagh > Not sure of a connection but my great grandparents married in Wexford in > 1903. Laurence Healys address is given as Maudlintown and his best > man/witness was a Martin Kehoe. Laurence married Anastasia Sinnott of > Faythe > St and her witness is an Ellen Kehoe. Just thought you may like to know, > Mark > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Abraham James Howlin Resided Ballycronigan Co Wexford claimed for Cattle timber and flax, sheep horse- claimed for 78 pounds 9s 9 pence there is no record of him being paid compensation. Nothing more found on the Howlin name on the claimant CD. Cara ----- Original Message ----- From: "Beth McBride" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, June 14, 2007 12:50 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] 1798 Rebellion Claimants -source can be found >I always thought the name of my 1798 ancestor killed in the battle of > Vinegar Hill was James Howlan/Howlin's father (from New Ross - > address Horeswood), until I visited Enniscorthy, and saw the location > of Vinegar Hill. The name could be of Patrick Murphy's father or Mary > Cowman's father (they were from Enniscorthy). > When my greatgrandfather, Thomas Howlan, son of James Howlan/Howlin > and Mary Murphy), came to Canada c. 1848, he brought the gun used in > the battle. > James Howlan m Catherine Meyler 1815 Templetown, Wexford > Patrick Murphy m Mary Cowman 1834 probably in Enniscorthy,Wexford > (they were both from Enniscorthy) (their daughter married Thomas > Howlan in Kingston , Ontario 1857) > Sorry this is pretty vague as regards finding a name. > Thanks, > Beth > On Jun 13, 2007, at 5:08 AM, Cara_Links wrote: > >> In Cara's Office so what name is this grandfather Beth? >> >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message >

Not sure of a connection but my great grandparents married in Wexford in 1903. Laurence Healys address is given as Maudlintown and his best man/witness was a Martin Kehoe. Laurence married Anastasia Sinnott of Faythe St and her witness is an Ellen Kehoe. Just thought you may like to know, Mark

New to the list Tracing my grand fathers in the name of Kehoe.Martin Kehoe born 1862 place unknown of Patrick Kehoe born 1838. For the last number of years I have making searches in various counties in the south of Ireland,there was an address in Maudlin St Kilkenny city which was unsuccessful. Martin Kehoe left Kilkenny as a young boy age 13 or 14 to live in Liverpool UK I have been told he was on his own which leads me to believe he was a orphan its possible his mother died in his confinement. Subject matter there was a Patrick Kehoe who died in this hospital in the year 22 August 1873 age 35,1838 fitting with my knowledge of his birth time Patrick was a widower died in the fever hospital Kilnamanagh Wexford. Deaths registered at Killnamanagh & Wells in the union of Gorey Co Wexford The wife of Patrick name Ann surname unknown,Patrick a labourer Any assistance welcome Les in Dublin

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Cara, I'm wondering if you might find any Cartons in County Wexford on that list? In the past I have only been able to find the list for Ferns which had one Carton in it. It could also be spelled Cartain, Cartin, Cartan, etc. Thanks so much, Carrie ____________________________________________________________________________________ Be a better Heartthrob. Get better relationship answers from someone who knows. Yahoo! Answers - Check it out. http://answers.yahoo.com/dir/?link=list&sid=396545433

Volunteers, at the castle told the truth and to dismiss them as *not very knowledgable * is not nice, these people of Wexford know more about their own history than you or I. For one thing there is no known list of who fought, or where they died, how could there be, Volunteers were the fighting force of these armies, they were not conscripted and trained at an army barracks for months and then went to Vinegar Hill to fight. They took up their farm implements and went forth to fight for their Country, you have to admire the loyalty of this. And yes they were buried where they fell, if a family member did not find them and take them home to be buried, and we didnt use picks, we used Pikes, and a Governement Commissioned Report labeled the Musgrave Report is hard to use, and define who died where etc and I am told by reliable sources it is very biggotted as it was a commisioned report. And when you return to Wexford allow yourself some hours to go to the 1798 Center because you will, be amazed at what has been recorded on the 1798 Rebellion. But dont be so quick to dismiss the Volunteers that work there, they are proud of their knowledge, and a Volunteer would be most upset to read the words that dismiss them as Not very knowledable. Where would we be today without Volunteers..........???? If I have offended with my comments, I apologise I realise they are short and to the point. But I am exercising my rights to defent the Volunteers of any work. Cara -----

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Cara a Rose to you, thank you Art ----- Original Message ----- From: Cara_Links <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 6:15 PM Subject: [IRL-WEXFORD] CASTLE VOLUNTEERS > Volunteers, at the castle told the truth and to dismiss them as *not very > knowledgable * is not nice, these people of Wexford > know more about their own history than you or I. > > For one thing there is no known list of who fought, or where they died, how > could there be, Volunteers were the fighting force of these armies, they > were not conscripted and trained at an army barracks for months and then > went to Vinegar Hill to fight. > They took up their farm implements and went forth to fight for their > Country, you have to admire the loyalty of this. > And yes they were buried where they fell, if a family member did not find > them and take them home to be buried, and we didnt use picks, we used Pikes, > and a Governement Commissioned Report labeled the Musgrave Report is hard to > use, and define who died where etc and I am told by reliable sources it is > very biggotted as it was a commisioned report. > > And when you return to Wexford allow yourself some hours to go to the 1798 > Center because you will, be amazed at > what has been recorded on the 1798 Rebellion. > But dont be so quick to dismiss the Volunteers that work there, they are > proud of their knowledge, and a Volunteer would be most upset to read the > words that dismiss them as Not very knowledable. > Where would we be today without Volunteers..........???? > > > If I have offended with my comments, I apologise I realise they are short > and to the point. > But I am exercising my rights to defent the Volunteers of any work. > > Cara > > ----- > > > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

Which offer. You do not state this in your subject line. As I answer over 50 mails a day I can not remember them all so it is necessary to have the correct message in the subject line and also to repeat the message please ? Regards Valerie [email protected] -----Original Message----- From: [email protected] [mailto:[email protected]]On Behalf Of [email protected] Sent: Monday, 11 June 2007 8:29 PM To: [email protected] Subject: Irish Civil Registration - John Smith and Mary Newport, circa 1846 Hi Valerie Yes please that would be great. I have his birth as May 1891 Thank you. Regards Sue from a cold but sunny south Australia ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

The Sources The National Library of Ireland has two volumes with the reference: JLB 94107. The first is the better-known Ireland List of Persons who have suffered Losses of Property, 1798 published in 1800. The second volume contains extracts of the Journals of the House Commons of Ireland, 1796-1800, no date of publication given. On the inside cover of the first volume there are two notes written in pencil stating 'Commission for Enquiry into the Losses' and 'Note: See Appendix House Commons Journals, 1800. (Feb 1800 p. clviii in which sums allowed and disallowed are set out for each county, also proportion of sum payable) (P. O'Conenbhair 18.iv.35).' The volume is divided into counties each of which has the following heading and tailpiece: LIST of PERSONS who have suffered LOSSES in their PROPERTY in the COUNTY of (X) and who have given in their Claims on or before the 6th of April, 1799, to the Commissioners for enquiring into the Losses sustained by such of his Majesty's Loyal Subjects, as have suffered in their Property by the Rebellion. This List is published for the Purpose of calling the Attention of all Persons well acquainted with the County of (X), to the several Claims therein specified; and all such Persons are requested to communicate as soon as possible to the Commissioners, (or any one of them) under Cover to the Right Honorable the Chancellor of the Exchequer, Parliament House Dublin, such Observations respecting the Loyalty or Losses of the several persons mentioned therein, as may enable the Commissioners to ascertain their Title to Compensation. William Porter, 69 Grafton St. printed all counties except for Tipperary (John Exshaw, 98 Grafton St.), Wexford and Wicklow (W. Sleater, Dame St. Dublin). The second volume contains extracts of the Journals of the House Commons of Ireland, 1796-1800, and includes a revised list by the compensation Committee with emendations and adjudications before the process was transferred to London after the Act of Union. The other items of merit are two lists of surrenders in the City of Dublin and barony of Coolock, Co. Dublin. In detail the references of the three pieces herein published are and headings are: Journals of the House of Commons of the Kingdom of Ireland.1796. to. 1797 Vol. XVII, pp.277-290 An account of the several Persons to whom the Magistrates of the Barony of Coolock have granted Protection and received into his Majesty's Peace since the 23rd Day of May 1798, with the Names and Places of Abode of each Person, and the Kind and Number of Arms delivered by such persons on receiving such Protection (Originally published in 1798, no further details) 1798 XVII pp. 829-959 An account of the Number of Persons who have surrendered themselves in the City of Dublin, confessed themselves being engaged in the present Rebellion, and the number of Arms surrendered, from 29th June last to the 9th Day of September 1798. (Originally published in Dublin 9th September 1798 by Wm. B. Swan and Henry C. Sirr) 1800 XIX pp. 158-498 An account of the Names of the several Persons who have given in Claims or have made any Demands for Relief as suffering Loyalists to the Commissioners for ascertaining the same, distinguishing their Abodes and Additions, the Counties in which they reside, and also the Places and Counties where such Losses have been sustained, the Nature of the Loss, the Amount of the Sums claimed by each respectively, the Adjudication of the Commissioners, and the Proportion of the Sum payable under Act 39 Geo. III Ch. 65, on such Claims as have been decided upon by the said Commissioners. (The abstract of the account was originally published by order of the Commissioners from Parliament House, 7th February 1800; Richard Carter, secretary There are six other reports in the second volume, with the following headings: Reports on the Foundling Hospital Reports from the Committee of Secrecy Extracts from the Publications of United Irishmen Proclamations and Letters Testimony and Evidence to Parliamentary Committees and State Trials Papers of Lord Edward Fitzgerald etc. These are essential sources for the Rebellion but are not dealt with here. Editorial Issues The transfer of data from a late 18th century publication to a late 20th century computer software program suitable for CDs and other electronic formats has entailed a number of editorial decisions. The two main issues were the choice of Lists of Claimants and the transcription of the data. The second later List of Claimants has been chosen because it is probably the most complete and accurate, though it is impossible to 100% sure due to the destruction of all the primary documentation after transfer of the commission to London. It is more complete than the first list with about 10% more claims, for instance Co. Wexford has 62 further entries. The values of the claims were also re-calculated for the second publication since there are occasional differences, some significant, between the two lists and it was on amounts of the latter list that claims were assessed and paid. Otherwise there is little difference between them with the exception of typographical layout and description of losses. In the former case these relate to space saving by the typesetters i.e. by the time they reached the end of Wexford in the second List they were getting fed up with repetition so that, for instance, all Williams become Wm. It is also possible that, for the same reason, descriptions of losses are shortened and abbreviated. The data was transferred to a data base format for ease of publication and research. The transcription into a number of data base fields entailed some chopping and rearranging of data. These fields and the relevant issues are discussed in below. As a general point the spelling of names of people and places has not been standardized but occupations have been. The standardization of surnames and place names is a recent phenomenon created for the benefit of government bureaucrats and mapmakers. From a historical perspective this is not recommended as it can edit out subtle but significant variations of names at a time when universal literacy was confined to the island's political, military and religious elites as well as the merchant classes. These phonetic variations from different parts of the island are often significant. An analysis of the spelling also can indicate changes in pronunciation over time. Earlier pronunciations may be more accurate as they are closer to the original surname or placename. Names of People. The surnames and first names are put into separate fields. Double-barreled surnames and more than one first name are not separated. Appellations, such Rev., Senior, Junior etc., are placed with the first name, so these appear as John Rev. or William Senior, Michael Junior etc. Occupations These are listed in a separate field. Place Names The residence of the claimant and the location of the loss are listed in separate fields. Though in the majority of cases this is the same place a significant minority of losses are in other locations, often in different counties. Two further fields give the counties of residence and loss. When the losses occurred in different counties than for indexing purposes either the county of residence or place first mentioned is given. In some cases it was not possible to identify the county where the loss was sustained because these were goods in transit by road, canal or coastal boats between two, not necessarily adjacent, counties, i.e. Galway and Dublin. In the case of Wicklow a further field has been added, which identifies, where possible, the Civil Parish in which the loss occurred, see the Wicklow chapter for further details. Description of Losses These are listed in a separate field. The spellings and order have not been standardized. However presentation has been modified to a certain extent in the following manner. All 'and's have been deleted and replaced with a comma. All 'one's have been deleted so the for instance 'one Cow' is given as 'Cow', otherwise the numbers are given in numerical form. All Nouns have been capitalized. Amounts These are given in pounds, shillings and pence, otherwise abbreviated as £. s. d. though these symbols are omitted. For example £12 5s 4d is given as 12/5/4 and £10 is given as 10. All œd have been omitted for technical reasons. For those unfamiliar with the Sterling system there were twelve pence in a shilling and twenty shillings in a pound, (240d in £1). At time of publication one euro (?) is equivalent to 15s 9d and one cent is 1.9d. £1 is equivalent to ?1.27, 1s to 6c, and 1d to 0.5c. These are not necessarily equivaelant in value. Agricultural labourers received around 6d per day and might earn £10 in a year, a horse cost £10 on average and a small farmer might pay 10/- per annum for one acre though this would depend on its quality.

Well Daniel would not be making a claim would he ? But two Sullivans that appear are Laurence of Gurteen Wexford claiming for a Mare Robert Sullivan was the Paymaster Clerk of North Cork Milita and states simply Wexford he lost his bed, blankets and furniture and his sword ----- Original Message ----- From: "Martha Hardcastle Guthrie" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Wednesday, June 13, 2007 8:02 AM Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] 1798 Rebellion Claimants & Surrenderers compiledby William Cantwell A Daniel Sullivan was executed for his participation in Scullabogue. I suspect he may be a relative of mine as my Sullivans were from Wexford. Does anyone have any information on him? Thanks, Martha john rose wrote: > I have not heard of the above book but would be most interested in further > details such as publisher and date etc so I could try and obtain a copy. > However in 1999 on a visit to the National library in Dublin I found > they > had on file JBL 9407 [that is the only reference on my copy of the > p/copying > order I placed there] lists of those up to April 1799 of persons claiming > losses . These give all the details in the reply to you except for the > amount actually awarded. I was only interested in Co Wex at the time so do > not recall if there were schedules for other counties. I have p/copies of > the following pages for Co Wex. > Surnames A to Bassett > Green to Hays > Whitney to Young ,William. > Plus a short appendix page listing late claims from persons > Blanch > Bourne > Boyce > Braddell > Burket > Daniel > Ferns[bishop of ] > Hatton > Jacob > Hope the above is helpful > John D Rose Epsom Auckland NZ > > Ps I have just looked again at my file-the above ref no is a call no for > the > p/copying-not a ref no to a book or file-it is simply headed "List of > persons who suffered losses in their property in the Co of WEX dated as > above" > > > > > > > > -----Original Message----- > From: [email protected] > [mailto:[email protected]] On Behalf Of Beth McBride > Sent: Wednesday, 13 June 2007 12:54 a.m. > To: [email protected] > Subject: Re: [IRL-WEXFORD] 1798 Rebellion Claimants & Surrenderers > compiledby William Cantwell > > My ggggrandfather was killed in the Battle of Vinegar Hill in 1798. > Where do you find the above compiled list? > Beth in IL > On Jun 12, 2007, at 4:33 AM, Valerie Garton wrote: > > >> Have you all looked at the above [ which I do not have access to ] >> which gives Surname, forename, occupation/status [ in the case of a >> widow this can be very useful] residence, parish, County, claimant, >> nature of loss [ this can give an indication as to whether they were >> farming ] sum claimed and sum allowed. >> >> I do not know if this information will lead any further > >> >> Regards from Valerie in dark Sydney. >> [email protected] >> >> >> >> ------------------------------- >> To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to IRL-WEXFORD- >> [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes >> in the subject and the body of the message >> > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > ------------------------------- > To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to > [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the > quotes in the subject and the body of the message > > > -- ÐÏࡱá ------------------------------- To unsubscribe from the list, please send an email to [email protected] with the word 'unsubscribe' without the quotes in the subject and the body of the message

In Cara's Office so what name is this grandfather Beth?