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    1. [Irl-Westmeath] kirwan/summers
    2. JOSEPH BISPHAM
    3. I am reposting the following surnames as ,despite paying for a search at the Heritage Centre, I am completely at a standstill with the following; ELLEN KIRWAN( KIRVAN) and LAWRENCE SUMMERS. they were married,maybe in Ireland,someimye before 1867 when their first son,JOHN, was born in lIVERPOOL. Estimated date of birth for Ellen and Lawrence is 1839.Janice

    01/21/2001 08:13:24
    1. Re: [Irl-Westmeath] kirwan/summers
    2. Jim Claffee
    3. A search of the URL below turns up several Lawrence Summers (see example below) and several Ellen Kirwan. None seem to match your dates, but at least you can locate areas in Ireland where the surname existed. If their first child was born in 1867, your marriage date would likely be 1866 or 1867. If I had to guess, I would say they were married in England. http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v4.01 British Isles IGI Record Select record to download - (50 maximum) Laurince SOMMERS Sex: M Event(s): Christening: 13 Nov 1838 Askeaton, Limerick, Ireland Parents: Father: John SOMMERS Mother: Bridget NESTOR Source Information: Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type C701131 1829-1881 0926138 Film NONE Sheet: ----- Original Message ----- From: JOSEPH BISPHAM <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:13 AM Subject: [Irl-Westmeath] kirwan/summers > I am reposting the following surnames as ,despite paying for a search at the Heritage Centre, I am completely at a standstill with the following; ELLEN KIRWAN( KIRVAN) and LAWRENCE SUMMERS. they were married,maybe in Ireland,someimye before 1867 when their first son,JOHN, was born in lIVERPOOL. Estimated date of birth for Ellen and Lawrence is 1839.Janice > > > ============================== > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! >

    01/21/2001 07:44:44
    1. Re: [Irl-Westmeath] kirwan/summers
    2. JOSEPH BISPHAM
    3. Many thanks Jim for your reply. May be I have to 'think wider' .It certainly isn't easy to trace Irish family!!! I hope that through the internet I can find people to keep an eye out for my forebears!!. Many thanks Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Claffee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Westmeath] kirwan/summers > A search of the URL below turns up several Lawrence Summers (see > example below) and several Ellen Kirwan. None seem to match your > dates, but at least you can locate areas in Ireland where the surname > existed. If their first child was born in 1867, your marriage date > would likely be 1866 or 1867. If I had to guess, I would say they > were married in England. > > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp > > FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v4.01 British Isles > IGI Record > Select record to download - (50 maximum) > Laurince SOMMERS > Sex: M > Event(s): > Christening: 13 Nov 1838 > Askeaton, Limerick, Ireland > Parents: > Father: John SOMMERS > Mother: Bridget NESTOR > Source Information: > Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type > C701131 1829-1881 0926138 Film NONE > Sheet: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JOSEPH BISPHAM <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:13 AM > Subject: [Irl-Westmeath] kirwan/summers > > > > I am reposting the following surnames as ,despite paying for a > search at the Heritage Centre, I am completely at a standstill with > the following; ELLEN KIRWAN( KIRVAN) and LAWRENCE SUMMERS. they were > married,maybe in Ireland,someimye before 1867 when their first > son,JOHN, was born in lIVERPOOL. Estimated date of birth for Ellen and > Lawrence is 1839.Janice > > > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >

    01/22/2001 12:22:40