Hi Marybeth, Thank you for the offer! I didn't know the FHC had access to this census! I would really appreciate getting the film # for the 1911 census; civil parish of Faughalstown, townland of Streamstown. This is the townland my grandmother's family was listed in the '01 census so I assume it's the same in 1911. If you need any other information before you go please let me know. Is the index film by townland name or surname? Thanks again for the help. Jane in CA

Jane - I have ordered the 1911 Census Index for Westmeath through my local Family History Library, film # 1544954, and should be able to view it next week. If you like I will let you know the film # for the census in Faughalstown or anywhere else you wish. I will probably be ordering that census roll myself as well as several others. It takes about two or three weeks for them to get the FHC from Salt Lake. Marybeth

Hi List, Has anyone ever had access to the 1911 census, and where did you get it? I'm looking for the area within the civil parish of Faughalstown. Or maybe nearby. Thanks, Jane in CA

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Hi Frank My wife & I were in Moate in 1998 and are going back there in August (I hope :-) ). It's a great place.. Make sure to go to the Dun na Si cultural centre and if it's still going make sure to get to the Ceili (sic?) on a Friday night. You'll have a ball.. be prepared for a late night..early morning.. Stage show starts about 9.45pm (nothing starts early in Ireland) and goes for about an hour. After that, supper and then the set dancing starts .. hope you enjoy .. Kind regards Bernie O'Connor Melbourne Australia

Hi Jackie Thanks for the info,I've received quite a few replies.I'll be keeping copies of them,especially the recommended B&Bs etc. I'll let everyone know via the list how things went,when I come back,even if I don't come back ;-). Regards Frank Jackie wrote: > Hi Frank, I haven't any pixs of Moate, sorry about that. But, if it's the > same place I visited for dinner...two years ago this February, while on my > way to Athlone, ( a short distance away)...Moate is very small indeed. All > we saw was a restaurant that serve Chicken with alot of Potato & Carrots. It > was dark and maybe I missed something (?)..but, I hope you have a place to > stay in a town close by. There is a Mr. Egan there in Moate, that does > genealogy...finding him is another thing, but, then he could be in the phone > book. There's a Mrs. Ann Lyons in the town of Athlone, that has a lovely two > story house..very reasonable and homey, abt $40.00 per. It's called the > 'Riverdale' house and within walking distance to town (with breakfast > included)...and I'm sure she would even drive you to the town of > Moate...very nice lady (we still exchange Christmas cards). Lots of B&B's > in Athlone, and it's only about 15/20 minutes away...you wouldn't need > reservation as everyone has a sign out for their B&B's..it's a gorgeous town > sitting on the river Shannon...and I hope you don't miss it. This is > directly behind Dublin ...if you look on a map. Good luck to you. I'm fairly > certain this Moate is the town you are seeking...doubt there could be two? > You can rent a car at the airport...or ride in the bus to Athlone...passing > Moate. Jackie Downen sunny California > -----Original Message----- > From: Frank McGonigal <[email protected]> > To: [email protected] <[email protected]> > Date: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:35 AM > Subject: Re: [Irl-Westmeath] MOATE > > >Hi Sue > >Thanks for your message,I did try that site but they only had one small > >photo. > >I put Moate Photos,Moate Pictures etc. into my search engine and got > >nothing. > >I was hoping that someone might have had a Moate web page of pictures,so > >far I haven't had any luck. > >Well I guess I'll have to wait till I get there and see it for myself,you > >know what it's like going back to your familys' home town,your expectations > >are high and I didn't want to have a let down when I get there. > >Thanks again, > >Frank > > > >[email protected] wrote: > > > >> Hi Frank, > >> Did you try http://www.local.ie > >> Sue > >> > >> On 23 Jan 2001, at 23:13, Frank McGonigal wrote: > >> > >> Hi > >> I'm making a trip to Moate this July,and I've been surfing the web for > >> photos of the town and surrounding areas,so far I've found only one > >> small photo of the main street. > >> Does anyone know of any site that will give me a better idea of what to > >> expect. > >> > >> Cheers > >> Frank McGonigal > >> Researching in MOATE-- > >> GORRY > >> KEENAGHAN > >> LOWRIE > >> > >> ============================== > >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > >> > >> ============================== > >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: > >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > > > > >============================== > >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: > >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. > >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com > > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hi Frank, I hope I gave you the correct info. It was dark, but, the town did look small to me. I think you'll love it there and I wouldn't blame you if you didn't come back. I'd love to live there for several months out of the year. Have a great time. Jackie -----Original Message----- From: Frank McGonigal <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Friday, January 26, 2001 1:28 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Westmeath] MOATE >Hi Jackie >Thanks for the info,I've received quite a few replies.I'll be keeping copies of >them,especially the recommended B&Bs etc. >I'll let everyone know via the list how things went,when I come back,even if I >don't come back ;-). > >Regards >Frank > >Jackie wrote: > >> Hi Frank, I haven't any pixs of Moate, sorry about that. But, if it's the >> same place I visited for dinner...two years ago this February, while on my >> way to Athlone, ( a short distance away)...Moate is very small indeed. All >> we saw was a restaurant that serve Chicken with alot of Potato & Carrots. It >> was dark and maybe I missed something (?)..but, I hope you have a place to >> stay in a town close by. There is a Mr. Egan there in Moate, that does >> genealogy...finding him is another thing, but, then he could be in the phone >> book. There's a Mrs. Ann Lyons in the town of Athlone, that has a lovely two >> story house..very reasonable and homey, abt $40.00 per. It's called the >> 'Riverdale' house and within walking distance to town (with breakfast >> included)...and I'm sure she would even drive you to the town of >> Moate...very nice lady (we still exchange Christmas cards). Lots of B&B's >> in Athlone, and it's only about 15/20 minutes away...you wouldn't need >> reservation as everyone has a sign out for their B&B's..it's a gorgeous town >> sitting on the river Shannon...and I hope you don't miss it. This is >> directly behind Dublin ...if you look on a map. Good luck to you. I'm fairly >> certain this Moate is the town you are seeking...doubt there could be two? >> You can rent a car at the airport...or ride in the bus to Athlone...passing >> Moate. Jackie Downen sunny California >> -----Original Message----- >> From: Frank McGonigal <[email protected]> >> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> >> Date: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:35 AM >> Subject: Re: [Irl-Westmeath] MOATE >> >> >Hi Sue >> >Thanks for your message,I did try that site but they only had one small >> >photo. >> >I put Moate Photos,Moate Pictures etc. into my search engine and got >> >nothing. >> >I was hoping that someone might have had a Moate web page of pictures,so >> >far I haven't had any luck. >> >Well I guess I'll have to wait till I get there and see it for myself,you >> >know what it's like going back to your familys' home town,your expectations >> >are high and I didn't want to have a let down when I get there. >> >Thanks again, >> >Frank >> > >> >[email protected] wrote: >> > >> >> Hi Frank, >> >> Did you try http://www.local.ie >> >> Sue >> >> >> >> On 23 Jan 2001, at 23:13, Frank McGonigal wrote: >> >> >> >> Hi >> >> I'm making a trip to Moate this July,and I've been surfing the web for >> >> photos of the town and surrounding areas,so far I've found only one >> >> small photo of the main street. >> >> Does anyone know of any site that will give me a better idea of what to >> >> expect. >> >> >> >> Cheers >> >> Frank McGonigal >> >> Researching in MOATE-- >> >> GORRY >> >> KEENAGHAN >> >> LOWRIE >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >> >> >> >> ============================== >> >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >> > >> > >> >============================== >> >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >> >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >> >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >> > >> >> ============================== >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > >============================== >Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >Source for Family History Online. Go to: >http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >

Hi List, I'm trying to find where my G. grandfather was born. I have his DOB as 18/7/1880 (from family Bible) He married Annie Aris in Coventry 5/2/1906 George's father was Charles Young I know my grandmother was baptised (Kathleen) at the Presbyterian Church of Athlone on 14/5/1912. George & Annie Young were living 12, High St, Athlone in 1914. In 1917 it was 8 High St. along with a Mr Hanlon. Can anyone local tell me if the Church is still there? Would the High St. addresses still be there as houses? Where do i look for a baptism for George, or who do i contact to search for me, as i can't get to Ireland Is the surname YOUNG a 'local' name? Thanks for your time, Angela Allen.

I would sugget you check www.local.ie and then go to the Westmeath site and check out the Church records-Protestant church for the townland and then you should check the birth records. Remember Ireland has them after 1864 and then also the 1911 census. The LDS Mormon libraries has some of these if one is available near y ou. ----- Original Message ----- From: Spencer Allen <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Thursday, January 25, 2001 10:19 AM Subject: [Irl-Westmeath] Young Family Athlone > Hi List, > I'm trying to find where my G. grandfather was born. > I have his DOB as 18/7/1880 (from family Bible) > He married Annie Aris in Coventry 5/2/1906 > George's father was Charles Young > > I know my grandmother was baptised (Kathleen) > at the Presbyterian Church of Athlone on 14/5/1912. > George & Annie Young were living 12, High St, Athlone > in 1914. > In 1917 it was 8 High St. along with a Mr Hanlon. > > Can anyone local tell me if the Church is still there? > Would the High St. addresses still be there as houses? > Where do i look for a baptism for George, or who do i contact > to search for me, as i can't get to Ireland > Is the surname YOUNG a 'local' name? > > Thanks for your time, Angela Allen. > > > > ============================== > Shop Ancestry - Everything you need to Discover, Preserve & Celebrate > your heritage! > http://shop.myfamily.com/ancestrycatalog >

Hi Sue Thanks for your message,I did try that site but they only had one small photo. I put Moate Photos,Moate Pictures etc. into my search engine and got nothing. I was hoping that someone might have had a Moate web page of pictures,so far I haven't had any luck. Well I guess I'll have to wait till I get there and see it for myself,you know what it's like going back to your familys' home town,your expectations are high and I didn't want to have a let down when I get there. Thanks again, Frank [email protected] wrote: > Hi Frank, > Did you try http://www.local.ie > Sue > > On 23 Jan 2001, at 23:13, Frank McGonigal wrote: > > Hi > I'm making a trip to Moate this July,and I've been surfing the web for > photos of the town and surrounding areas,so far I've found only one > small photo of the main street. > Does anyone know of any site that will give me a better idea of what to > expect. > > Cheers > Frank McGonigal > Researching in MOATE-- > GORRY > KEENAGHAN > LOWRIE > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 > Source for Family History Online. Go to: > http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Hi Frank, I haven't any pixs of Moate, sorry about that. But, if it's the same place I visited for dinner...two years ago this February, while on my way to Athlone, ( a short distance away)...Moate is very small indeed. All we saw was a restaurant that serve Chicken with alot of Potato & Carrots. It was dark and maybe I missed something (?)..but, I hope you have a place to stay in a town close by. There is a Mr. Egan there in Moate, that does genealogy...finding him is another thing, but, then he could be in the phone book. There's a Mrs. Ann Lyons in the town of Athlone, that has a lovely two story house..very reasonable and homey, abt $40.00 per. It's called the 'Riverdale' house and within walking distance to town (with breakfast included)...and I'm sure she would even drive you to the town of Moate...very nice lady (we still exchange Christmas cards). Lots of B&B's in Athlone, and it's only about 15/20 minutes away...you wouldn't need reservation as everyone has a sign out for their B&B's..it's a gorgeous town sitting on the river Shannon...and I hope you don't miss it. This is directly behind Dublin ...if you look on a map. Good luck to you. I'm fairly certain this Moate is the town you are seeking...doubt there could be two? You can rent a car at the airport...or ride in the bus to Athlone...passing Moate. Jackie Downen sunny California -----Original Message----- From: Frank McGonigal <[email protected]> To: [email protected] <[email protected]> Date: Thursday, January 25, 2001 1:35 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Westmeath] MOATE >Hi Sue >Thanks for your message,I did try that site but they only had one small >photo. >I put Moate Photos,Moate Pictures etc. into my search engine and got >nothing. >I was hoping that someone might have had a Moate web page of pictures,so >far I haven't had any luck. >Well I guess I'll have to wait till I get there and see it for myself,you >know what it's like going back to your familys' home town,your expectations >are high and I didn't want to have a let down when I get there. >Thanks again, >Frank > >[email protected] wrote: > >> Hi Frank, >> Did you try http://www.local.ie >> Sue >> >> On 23 Jan 2001, at 23:13, Frank McGonigal wrote: >> >> Hi >> I'm making a trip to Moate this July,and I've been surfing the web for >> photos of the town and surrounding areas,so far I've found only one >> small photo of the main street. >> Does anyone know of any site that will give me a better idea of what to >> expect. >> >> Cheers >> Frank McGonigal >> Researching in MOATE-- >> GORRY >> KEENAGHAN >> LOWRIE >> >> ============================== >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB >> >> ============================== >> Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 >> Source for Family History Online. Go to: >> http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB > > >============================== >Join the RootsWeb WorldConnect Project: >Linking the world, one GEDCOM at a time. >http://worldconnect.rootsweb.com >

I just wanted to write and thank everyone for their replies to my question relating to the surname. It appears that I still have work to do, but I really appreciated the isight that everyone on the list provided. Thanks, Jim Bayard

Hi Frank, Did you try http://www.local.ie Sue On 23 Jan 2001, at 23:13, Frank McGonigal wrote: Hi I'm making a trip to Moate this July,and I've been surfing the web for photos of the town and surrounding areas,so far I've found only one small photo of the main street. Does anyone know of any site that will give me a better idea of what to expect. Cheers Frank McGonigal Researching in MOATE-- GORRY KEENAGHAN LOWRIE ============================== Visit Ancestry.com for a FREE 14-Day Trial and enjoy access to the #1 Source for Family History Online. Go to: http://www.ancestry.com/subscribe/subscribetrial1y.asp?sourcecode=F11HB

Found on LDS film 926185: Catholic Registers from RC Parishes of Tubber and Trim: May 15, 1862 Bernard Leavy married Elvia(?) Boland Witnesses: Peter Claffy & Mary Boland

Hi I'm making a trip to Moate this July,and I've been surfing the web for photos of the town and surrounding areas,so far I've found only one small photo of the main street. Does anyone know of any site that will give me a better idea of what to expect. Cheers Frank McGonigal Researching in MOATE-- GORRY KEENAGHAN LOWRIE

In a message dated 01/23/2001 5:47:56 AM Pacific Standard Time, [email protected] writes: << [email protected] >> i am wondering how frequent the name Mulledy shows up in Griffiths as my family originated in the Horseleap area and then disbursed to all areas of the midlands. Thank you, Susan Mulledy

The best way I know of to determine a surname's frequency in a particular county is to use the Griffith's Valuation. I took a look to see what was listed and to my surprise there were no SPALDING or SPAULDINGs listed in all of Ireland. Then I looked in "The Book of Irish Families - Great and Small" by IGF O'Lochlainn and neither name was listed in that book, as well. It must be a name of English origin, like my husband's SPENCERs. You may want to consider renting some of the Civil Registration films to see where the births/marriages/deaths for SPALDING/SPAULDING occured most frequently. Nancy List owner, IRL-CAVAN, IRL-MEATH, L E D D Y-L, S H A N L E Y-L At 09:00 AM 1/22/01 -0800, you wrote: > >I am new to the list, but I am hoping that someone can comment on the >frequency of the surname Spalding or Spaulding in Westmeath. I am trying to >search my wife's family for our newborn son, James. > >So far, I have only discovered that her great, great, great grandfather, >James Spaulding, was born in County Westmeath on 8 September 1819 to Patrick >and Bridget Spaulding. He and his parents arrived in New York, New York on >19 August 1839, and they then moved to Boston. > >Does anyone know if this name is common in Westmeath, or does it exist in >only a few parishes? From the IGI, I was able to find a John Spalding, who >was married in 1866 at Roman Catholic Chapel, St. Mary's Parish By Athlone, >Westmeath. I am wondering if this may be their parish. > >Any assistance would be greatly appreciated, since I am new to this. > >Thanks, > >Jim Bayard >Wareham, Massachusetts > >

Go to http://www.local.ie/general/genealogy/roman_catholic_registers/westmea th_catholic_register.shtml to see starting dates of RC parish records. Notice in the above URL where you see spaces (as between roman and catholic) that there you should hit the underline key. It doesn't show up since the whole address is underlined. Don't know the answers to your other questions. ----- Original Message ----- From: <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Tuesday, January 23, 2001 12:32 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Westmeath] Frequency of Spaulding or Spalding surname > Hi Jim Claffee, > You mentioned that we could order Delvin Parish records from the Heritage > Center. Do you happen to know the dates of the records available and if > there are any gaps in the dates? Also, how would I go about ordering them by > mail (or by email if they're online) and what the price would be? When I > visited Ireland about 6 years ago they (HC) were not finished copying the > records so what I got at that time was incomplete. > I'm researching the names of Murtagh, Doyle, Walsh, and Barry. > Thanks, > Jane in CA > > > ============================== > Visit Ancestry's Library - The best collection of family history > learning and how-to articles on the Internet. > http://www.ancestry.com/learn/library >

Hi Jim Claffee, You mentioned that we could order Delvin Parish records from the Heritage Center. Do you happen to know the dates of the records available and if there are any gaps in the dates? Also, how would I go about ordering them by mail (or by email if they're online) and what the price would be? When I visited Ireland about 6 years ago they (HC) were not finished copying the records so what I got at that time was incomplete. I'm researching the names of Murtagh, Doyle, Walsh, and Barry. Thanks, Jane in CA

Many thanks Jim for your reply. May be I have to 'think wider' .It certainly isn't easy to trace Irish family!!! I hope that through the internet I can find people to keep an eye out for my forebears!!. Many thanks Janice ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Claffee" <[email protected]> To: <[email protected]> Sent: Monday, January 22, 2001 7:44 AM Subject: Re: [Irl-Westmeath] kirwan/summers > A search of the URL below turns up several Lawrence Summers (see > example below) and several Ellen Kirwan. None seem to match your > dates, but at least you can locate areas in Ireland where the surname > existed. If their first child was born in 1867, your marriage date > would likely be 1866 or 1867. If I had to guess, I would say they > were married in England. > > http://www.familysearch.org/eng/Search/frameset_search.asp > > FamilySearchT International Genealogical Index v4.01 British Isles > IGI Record > Select record to download - (50 maximum) > Laurince SOMMERS > Sex: M > Event(s): > Christening: 13 Nov 1838 > Askeaton, Limerick, Ireland > Parents: > Father: John SOMMERS > Mother: Bridget NESTOR > Source Information: > Batch number: Dates Source Call No. Type Printout Call No. Type > C701131 1829-1881 0926138 Film NONE > Sheet: > > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: JOSEPH BISPHAM <[email protected]> > To: <[email protected]> > Sent: Sunday, January 21, 2001 10:13 AM > Subject: [Irl-Westmeath] kirwan/summers > > > > I am reposting the following surnames as ,despite paying for a > search at the Heritage Centre, I am completely at a standstill with > the following; ELLEN KIRWAN( KIRVAN) and LAWRENCE SUMMERS. they were > married,maybe in Ireland,someimye before 1867 when their first > son,JOHN, was born in lIVERPOOL. Estimated date of birth for Ellen and > Lawrence is 1839.Janice > > > > > > ============================== > > Ancestry.com Genealogical Databases > > http://www.ancestry.com/rd/rwlist2.asp > > Search over 2500 databases with one easy query! > > > > > ============================== > Create a FREE family website at MyFamily.com! > http://www.myfamily.com/banner.asp?ID=RWLIST2 > >