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Dear Christina, I searched LDS Film 100158 back in 1992/3 before I had access to Internet Mailing Lists and Indexes etc, as I was told by Peter Slattery, who has a Pierce SLATTERY family in Carrickbeg TIP, 4-miles from my Rathgormuck ones, that the film was of a great deal of use - so I was specifically trying to locate my SLATTERY names at the time. (negatively I might add!). The film contains a great many items of various extracts. I believe that they were selected (specifically as I understand that the actuary Edmund Walsh Kelly, who extracted them in 1921, had a wife who was connected in some way to a SLATTERY) so not all items may have been extracted but when you have nothing else, any extracts, before the accidental burning of the records in the uprising are better than none at all !! Christina, as for the Wills & Admins of Waterford: My partial index of items, (written on the back of the envelope of Peter's letter), states that Item 30 - "has Extracts from wills and admin of estates for Waterford City and County in the diocese of Waterford - includes index." I know that is not what is stated on the Internet version, but if you click on the title of Item 30 and go down through the details that is what it says! For the benefit of those Waterford Listers who are curious to know what is on LDS film 0100158 to see if it fits into their research suggestions (there are too many items for me to list on this mailing list) - Go to the LDS Family Search on the internet and Choose the Family History Library Catalogue. You can then choose the Film/Fiche number tag, type in the number 0100158 and scan for the many many items of extracts in the Waterford area. Clicking on an item of interest gives you a further set of details. To see the actual items you of course have to go to your LDS Family History Centre and order & pay for the hire of the film as normal and organize a LONG time to read it making VERY SURE that you have noted the ITEM NUMBERS of Interest BEFORE you start reading the film!!! Warning - when it states "selected surnames" - that is what it means! Hope that this helps Cheers John Slattery in cold New Zealand (it's winter after all, down here!) ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRL-WATERFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-WATERFORD-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: IRL-WATERFORD-D Digest V02 #37

John, My comment regarded the Wills because I did not find the Wills extracted on the website you gave. It is only the Wills and admins that I have been putting online. I don't think anyone has put them online but if I am wrong let me know so I don't duplicate. I used the search feature on the site and only found Church records. Regards, Christina North Carolina, USA On Fri, 14 Jun 2002 08:11:49 +1200, John Slattery wrote: >Dear Christina, > >I searched LDS Film 100158 back in 1992/3 before I had access to > >Christina, as for the Wills & Admins of Waterford: My partial index >of items, (written on the back of the envelope of Peter's letter), >states that Item 30 - "has Extracts from wills and admin of estates >for Waterford City and County in the diocese of Waterford - includes >index." I know that is not what is stated on the Internet version, >but if you click on the title of Item 30 and go down through the >details that is what it says! > >For the benefit of those Waterford Listers who are curious to know >what is on LDS film 0100158 to see if it fits into their research >suggestions (there are too many items for me to list on this mailing >list) - Go to the LDS Family Search on the internet and Choose the >Family History Library Catalogue. You can then choose the Film/Fiche >number tag, type in the number 0100158 and scan for the many many >items of extracts in the Waterford area. >Clicking on an item of interest gives you a further set of details. >To see the actual items you of course have to go to your LDS Family >History Centre and order & pay for the hire of the film as normal >and organize a LONG time to read it making VERY SURE that you have >noted the ITEM NUMBERS of Interest BEFORE you start reading the >film!!! >Warning - when it states "selected surnames" - that is what it >means! > >Hope that this helps > >Cheers John Slattery in cold New Zealand (it's winter after all, >down here!) > >----- Original Message ----- >From: <IRL-WATERFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-WATERFORD >-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Friday, June 14, 2002 7:01 AM Subject: IRL >-WATERFORD-D Digest V02 #37 > > > > > >==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== When searching for records, >remember that in old Ireland boundaries like diocese, townland, >county, even provinces changed. Be sure to look elsewhere. They >might live in Galway but went to church in Roscommon. >

Dear Christina Sorry to be a wet blanket regarding the ever so lovely extracts you are making to the Co Waterford mailing list of records from LDS Film 0100158 and I know that it is a large film with many many extracts undertaken from the original records in 1921 by Edmund Walsh Kelly before they were destroyed but I should point out that I accidentally found a site on the Internet which would appear to also include some records from that film and I just hope that you both are not repeating the same material because it would seem to be a waste of both of your time to repeat them! The site I noted is www.celticcousins.net/ireland/index.htm and the extracts I am concerned about are under the heading of miscellaneous. I am not trying to be critical, just trying to save a very kind person a lot of hard work!! I am researching SLATTERY; STEVENS; RAWSON; OLIVER & GOODSON etc - see my full list, with locations, at http://www.genealogy.org.nz/mem_interests/address/703.htm

John, Thanks for letting me know. This is the same film but I am darned if I see the Wills and Admins there. Did you see them? I am glad the births etc. have been done as they were a bit daunting! I will add a link to the Waterford webpage for this other info. Let me know if you have seen the wills. Regards, Christina -- Christina Hunt, Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/12/2002 On Thu, 13 Jun 2002 12:16:50 +1200, John Slattery wrote: >Dear Christina > >Sorry to be a wet blanket regarding the ever so lovely extracts you >are making to the Co Waterford mailing list of records from LDS Film >0100158 and I know that it is a large film with many many extracts >undertaken from the original records in 1921 by Edmund Walsh Kelly >before they were destroyed but I should point out that I >accidentally found a site on the Internet which would appear to also >include some records from that film and I just hope that you both >are not repeating the same material because it would seem to be a >waste of both of your time to repeat them! > >The site I noted is www.celticcousins.net/ireland/index.htm and the >extracts I am concerned about are under the heading of >miscellaneous. > >I am not trying to be critical, just trying to save a very kind >person a lot of hard work!! > >I am researching SLATTERY; STEVENS; RAWSON; OLIVER & GOODSON etc >- see my full list, with locations, at >http://www.genealogy.org.nz/mem_interests/address/703.htm > > > >==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== Greetings: This is the Official >mailing list for County and City Waterford, Ireland. Waterford is >Ireland's oldest city. This list is for anyone with a genealogy or >history interest in Waterford, Ireland. >

There is a 'lovely' will in the Kilrossanty micro-film...where the husband leaves money to his wife's intended with the proviso..........'if he is fool enough to marry her'''......... kay

Paul From your address....could you live in England??? woul;d it be worth asking at the newspaper librrary in Colindale (NW London) id there are any newspapers going back that far ??? I know that the Munstre Express was published at least as far back as 1896. Presumably the census available are of no help kay

Some more extracts. I fear these are really in no order. I just copied a few pages. I will try to get some more and in some order. MORRISSEY 13.6.1801 Admon. of goods of Patrick MORRISSEY of Tramore, Publican, deceased, intestate, was granted to Michael MINCHIN, nephew and next of kin. 12.10.1801 Admon of good of Ellen MORRISSEY of Tramore, widow, deceased intestate was granted to Michael MINCHIN, only brother of said deceased. 12.10.1801 Admon of goods of Thomas MORRISSEY of Tramore, Farmer and Publican, deceased was granted to Michael MINCHIN only brother of widow of said deceased. SHERLOCK 29.7.1813 Admon. of goods etc. of Edward SHERLOCK, late Lieut.102nd Regt. to John SHERLOCK, on of his brothers, his mother, brothers and sisters renouncing. FLYNN 3.7.1815 Probate of Revd. Thomas FLYNN'S will to Mary FLYNN, sister, Wren's Nest, Tramore. FLAVAHAN ?.8.1825 Admon of goods of Thomas GLAVAHAN deceased intestate 5.7.1825, to Catherine POWER alias FLAVAHAN, wife of Nicholas POWER, Waterford, daughter and next of kin. CARBERY 1828, Admon, of goods etc. of Robert CARBERY of Dungarvan, to his brother Andrew CARBERY. LANE James LANE, Clogheen, Carpenter, died intestat, 16.5 1838, Admon to his wife Judith. Effects under £27. source: FHL #0100158 -- Christina Hunt, Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/12/2002

One of my ancestors, Bartholomew Meredith (b. 1816; d. 1888) was noted (per St Olave's Parish register) as 'Keeper of the Lunatic Asylum' at the time of the marriage of one of his sons on 5 February 1861. At the time Bartholomew resided in Waterford. He was later (1871) noted as a 'Commercial clerk'. Does anyone have any information on this asylum, which I presume to be in Waterford? Perhaps this may have been attached to a hospital or (more likely?) attached to or treated more like a prison.......... I have in the past made various enquiries via the Waterford Corporation historian without any luck. There seems to have been a stigma around recording information regarding anything to do with the lunatic asylum in those times - possibly understandably from the inmates perspective but also evidently from the keeper's (carers?) perspective. I have no idea where to go to try to start digging information on this and any assistance / advice would be most welcome. Paul Meredith

O'DONNELL Administration of goods etc. of Valentine O'DONNELL, died 5.12.1841 to Alicia, widow, 2.2.1842 Will of Judith Smyth O'DONNELL, dated 1.3.1840, :- all to son Valentine O'DONNELL now living in London. Will proved £830 by executors -.4.1841 REVILLE Will of Mary REVILLE, widow of late John REVILLE, dated 30.7.1820, mentions son Joseph REVILLE, and daughter Bridget FARRELL. Proved by Waltar FARRELL executor, 12.9.1820 GAFFNEY Will of Patrick GAFFNEY of Waterford, Carpenter, dated 18.1.1800 mentions daughters Catherine SILVESTER (?) and Mary SILVESTER, son William and daughter Ann, "pay honour and respect to your mother in law Catherine SEXTON alias BROWN;"; executors daughter Catherine, and living friend and cousin James GAFFNEY. Probate to Catherine DUNFORD alias GAFFNEY, wife of Daniel DUNFORD, Wine Merchant, daughter and sole surviving executor, 29.10.1825. Admon. de bonis non to John DUNFORD, one of the next of kin, administrat** having died without administring (sic), 1.6.1856 SUTTON Will of Walter SUTTON of Waterford, Cooper, mentions nephews James and Patrick SUTTON, executor, Revd. Garret or Gerald CONNOLLY, son of James CONNOLLY, Cordwainer, Proved 29.7.1815 O'MEARA Will of Bridget O'MEARA, of Waterford, widow, dated 4.8.1831.:- mentions sons John, Robert and Daniel ? already provided for; rest in ... to her brother Daniel DUNFORD, Wine Merchant and Michael PHELAN. ..daughter Mary Ann O'MEARA; codicil, 20.11.1832:- 1/- each to sons ... 26.10.1836 ?, by Daniel DUNFORD. source: FHL #0100158 Christina -- Christina Hunt, Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/11/2002

Here are some Extracts from Waterford Wills: MANSFIELD Will of Ann MANSFIELD, Waterford, widow, no date given;- to be buried in Kilmeaden; £50 to daughter Jane SHERLOCK; to her grandchildren as folloews: £100 to Alexander SHERLOCK, £1000 to Anne SHERLOCK, £1000 to Jane SHERLOCK, £500 to John SHERLOCK, £1000 to Thomas SHERLOCK, £500 to David SHERLOCK, £1000 to Edward SHERLOCK; £500 in charity for the poor; residue to her son John MANSFIELD. Proved by John MANSFIELD, son, 13.12.1808 Administration of the good etc. of Thomas MANSFIELD, Fountitigue granted to Catherine MANSFIELD his widow, 10.1.1788 Administration of the goods etc. of William MANSFIELD, late of Ballybrack, Farmer, granted to Mary MANSFIELD als, NEVIL, his widow, and Bartholomew NEVIL of Ballybrack, Farmer, 15.8.1791 MANSFIELD Administration of the goods etc. of Martin MANSFIELD, late of Tullow, Co., Tipperary, granted to Catherine DUNN als. MANSFIELD, lawful sister of deceased, 20.2.1792. FITZPATRICK pg. 54 Will of Richard FITZPATRICK, Clonmel, Brewer, dated 18.5.1797:- all his property to his brother in law Richard RIVES, Brewer, Clonmel, in trust for his nephew Patrick RIVERS, only son of said Richard; subject to the life interest of his wife Catherine FITZPATRICK alias KNARESBORO and £500 for his niece Mary RIVERS. £250 for his niece Catherine RIVERS. Proved 17.5.1808 RIVERS p 169 Will of Bartholomew RIVERS, Dungarvan, dated 26.7.1740:- mentions his brother Michael and Patrick, Merchants, Dungarvan, his brother in law John QUARRY of Knockane, Co. Waterford, his daughters Mary, Elizabet and Anne, an aunt in Dublin and an aunt in Waterford. Proved by Mary and Patrick 22.5.1741/2 Will of Joseph RIVERS Ballinakill, dated 29.11.1797:- "As my sister Kate POWER has generously supported me and my father, mother and sister Anne since my father's failure in business and has promised to continue to do so, I leave her my leasehold interest in Lower Crobally, Tramore and everything else. (Ballygunnar Castle and two fields at Ballybricken held from John FITZGERALD, and for which he promised me a lease. Proved 22.12.1797 HENEHAN Will of John HENEHAN, Killowen, :- to eldest son, Ed. "my part of Killowen about 19 acres; 12 acres to support wife Margaret; sons (first name too dark), Richard, Edmund, Philip, Michael and Patrick, £100 each on arrival at manhood, mentions daughter Margaret. Codicil dated 25.4.1825 empowers executors to disinherit Edmund for impropriety. Will dated 11.3.1825. Proved 5.4.1831 O'Donnell Will of Maurice O'DONNELL, Carrick on Suir, dated 18.1.1815,:- £200 to wife Ann; daughter Margaret amply provided for on marriage with Matthew MAHER of Bally**llin, Queen's Co.; mentions sons Valentine and Maurice. Proved 23.9.1815 by surviving executors, wife having predeceased. These are extracts of the Wills for names of interest to the person who extracted them. source: FHL #0100158 Christina Hunt, Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/11/2002

Wendy, greetings from sunny Queensland. Have you requested a search through Waterford Heritage on Mary's birth/christening date, she may have had brothers/sisters. I did a search on my gggreat grandfather from Waterford using his birth date and parents names and uncovered three more brothers and variuos cousins as witness, they gave me the church where they were baptised and from that I matched the Griffiths valuation to locate the Townland. It was well worth the $100+ Aussie dollars. Our Oz BDM records are very good so you have probably got a good start, but you will need help in Ireland. Check this Oz site based in SW Victoria it has a strong Irish data base of info. http://www.standard.net.au/~jwilliams/index.htm You are not on your own, lots of us have struggled for years and have had help from other people but sometimes you have to make a small investment in Ireland to move forward, Happy hunting, Vincent. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Wendy" <fensom@netspace.net.au> To: <IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 10:23 AM Subject: [WATERFORD] LAWLESS ancestor > I am searching for details of my ggg-grandmother, Mary LAWLESS, who came to Australia as an Irish orphan on a ship called 'Edith Caroline' which departed from Plymouth on Dec 1849 and arrived in Mar 1850. Mary was aged 15 at the time so was probably born around 1835. She came from Lismore, Waterford, and her father's name was Andrew. Any further information would be gratefully received. I am sure she would have had brothers/sisters somewhere. > > Regards, > Wendy > > ______________________________

I am new to the list and am trying to research my COUGHLAN line. Sadly, I do not know where in Waterford the family is from. Can anyone tell me if it is possible to find out where they were from? I have names of people which I have obtained from B.D.M. certificates in New Zealand and have approximate years of births and marriage, but they only state Waterford as the area. Any guidance would be appreciated Ann Johnson

Thanks for the clarification Christina. Nancy

No surnames just means no blanket surname requests like - ALL Smiths. I always put that to keep the level of work down for the lookup volunteer. That doesn't mean that Jim won't send you all, but it is preferable to specify John Smith if you can. I feel sure that if there are only a few (and there probably will be in this case) he will give them to you. That was my addition not his. Best wishes, Christina Christina Hunt, Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/09/2002 On Sun, 9 Jun 2002 13:44:06 -0400, Nancy Atkinson wrote: >Christina, > >Could you clarify what is available on this directory?  The Lookup >webpage says 'No Surname requests'.  If we know the name of the town >and we can't request lookups for a surname, what information would >we be requesting? > >Does the webpage mean to say no 'blanket surname requests'? > >Nancy > >>-----Original Message----- >>From: Christina Hunt [mailto:Ninah@carolina.rr.com] Sent: Sunday, >>June 09, 2002 12:13 PM To: IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com Subject: >>[WATERFORD] Lookups updated >> >> >>We have added a new lookup offer to the Waterford (IGP) webpage. It >>is the 1870 Slater's Directory. You *have* to know the Town as it >>is arranged that way with no general name index. Regards, Christina >>http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat2/ -- Christina Hunt, >>Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/09/2002 >> >> > > > >==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== When searching for records, >remember that in old Ireland boundaries like diocese, townland, >county, even provinces changed. Be sure to look elsewhere. They >might live in Galway but went to church in Roscommon. >

Christina, Could you clarify what is available on this directory? The Lookup webpage says 'No Surname requests'. If we know the name of the town and we can't request lookups for a surname, what information would we be requesting? Does the webpage mean to say no 'blanket surname requests'? Nancy > -----Original Message----- > From: Christina Hunt [mailto:Ninah@carolina.rr.com] > Sent: Sunday, June 09, 2002 12:13 PM > To: IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com > Subject: [WATERFORD] Lookups updated > > > We have added a new lookup offer to the Waterford (IGP) > webpage. It is the 1870 Slater's Directory. You *have* to > know the Town as it is arranged that way with no general name > index. Regards, Christina http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat2/ > -- > Christina Hunt, Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/09/2002 > >

We have added a new lookup offer to the Waterford (IGP) webpage. It is the 1870 Slater's Directory. You *have* to know the Town as it is arranged that way with no general name index. Regards, Christina http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat2/ -- Christina Hunt, Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/09/2002

Could someone please tell me if the county boundaries around Yougal changed and was Youghal in Co. Cork or Co. Waterford around c1800? -- Many thanks Jennifer Geelong Australia

I am searching for details of my ggg-grandmother, Mary LAWLESS, who came to Australia as an Irish orphan on a ship called 'Edith Caroline' which departed from Plymouth on Dec 1849 and arrived in Mar 1850. Mary was aged 15 at the time so was probably born around 1835. She came from Lismore, Waterford, and her father's name was Andrew. Any further information would be gratefully received. I am sure she would have had brothers/sisters somewhere. Regards, Wendy

Jan 10, 1827 MARRIED On the 7th inst. at Ballygallane, County Waterford, Nicholas Purcell O'GORMAN, Esq. Secretary to the Catholics of Ireland, to Mary, only daughter of the late Alexander POWER, of Ballygallane, Esq. Jan 27, 1827 DIED At Ballycullane, County Waterford, Mr. Jeffery POWER, a very respectable and industrious farmer. Feb 3, 1827 DIED In Waterford, Captain Oliver NELSON, Master of the Smack Daniel. Mar 7, 1827 MARRIED At Stradbally Church, Co. Waterford, Mr. Nicholas TOPPING, of Dunhill Cottage, to Jane, daughter of the late Mr. Charles CROWLEY, of Woodhouse. Mar 17, 1827 DIED In Waterford, Mrs. MACKESY, relict of the late Mr. William MACKESY, Apothecary. On Wednesday, Mrs. DEVEREUX, wife of Mr. Nicholas DEVEREUX, of Waterford. Regards, Christina -- Christina Hunt, Ninah@carolina.rr.com on 06/05/2002