Your earliest known Waterford ancestor? Tell us what you know about him or her. Regards, Christina

CLARKSON, John Hogg Birth Sex: Male Birth Date: 26 Sep 1871 Birthplace: North City No 1, The City Of Dublin, Ire Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland Father: Charles CLARKSON Mother: Mary HOGG Source: FHL Number 255834 Dates: 1871-1871 Note: 526

Thank you so much for this information. It could indeed be one of mine - the timing is right on. It was wonderful of you to include the film number and very kind of you to take the time to reply. This has been a very large brick wall for many, many years, so my fingers are crossed that with your help I can bring it crashing down. Linda On Wed, 9 Apr 2003 18:00:16 +1000 "Cara_Links" <cracker@hotkey.net.au> writes: > CLARKSON, John Hogg Birth > Sex: Male > Birth Date: 26 Sep 1871 Birthplace: North City No 1, The City Of > Dublin, > Ire > Recorded in: Civil Registration for Ireland > Father: Charles CLARKSON > Mother: Mary HOGG > Source: FHL Number 255834 Dates: 1871-1871 Note: 526 > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > Submit your Waterford Surnames: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat2/registry.htm > > >

One other possibility is an online buisiness called Genfindit. I have used them with success. http://www.genfindit.com/ Best of luck, Christina > > > > > > I am a new member of the list and I am hoping to find some > > information on > > > a Charles James Palmer CLARKSON. Unfortunately I have very > > little > > > information to go on, but I wonder if someone could help with > > some > > > general questions. Charles J.P. CLARKSON was born in London and > > other > > > than his birth, the only information I have is about a daughter, > > Dora > > > CLARKSON, who on the 1881 census gives her place of birth as > > Waterford, > > > apparently about 1875. I don't have a clue as to Charles J.P. > > CLARKSON'S > > > occupation, but two of his brothers were British Army officers, > > another > > > brother was a Clerk in Holy Orders, and his eldest brother was a > > > barrister. His father was also a barrister. He does not appear > > on the > > > 1881 census for England, nor can I find a record of his marriage > > or death > > > in the English civil indexes. Did Ireland's censuses follow the > > same ten > > > year pattern as England's and is there any way to access those > > censuses? > > > Are the Irish civil indexes available for searching on-line, and > > if not, > > > can anyone advise how to arrange to have a search done? I > > apologize for > > > the almost total lack of information, but any information would > > be > > > greatly appreciated - and if this name is familiar to anyone, I > > would be > > > overjoyed to hear from you. > > > > > > Thank you, > > > Linda Pagnani > > > USA > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > > > Greetings: This is the Official mailing list for County and City > > Waterford, Ireland. Waterford is Ireland's oldest city. This list is > > for > > anyone with a genealogy or history interest in Waterford, Ireland. > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > > To contact the co-listowners send an email to: > > Ninah@carolina.rr.com > > or donkelly@grovenet.net > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > When searching for records, remember that in old Ireland boundaries like diocese, townland, county, even provinces changed. Be sure to look elsewhere. They might live in Galway but went to church in Roscommon. >

Hi Christina: Thanks for the info about this business - news to me and certainly worth trying. Your help is appreciated. Linda On Tue, 8 Apr 2003 16:33:06 GMT Ninah@carolina.rr.com writes: > One other possibility is an online buisiness called > Genfindit. I have used them with success. > http://www.genfindit.com/ > > Best of luck, > Christina > > > > > > > > > I am a new member of the list and I am hoping to find > some > > > information on > > > > a Charles James Palmer CLARKSON. Unfortunately I > have very > > > little > > > > information to go on, but I wonder if someone could > help with > > > some > > > > general questions. Charles J.P. CLARKSON was born in > London and > > > other > > > > than his birth, the only information I have is about > a daughter, > > > Dora > > > > CLARKSON, who on the 1881 census gives her place of > birth as > > > Waterford, > > > > apparently about 1875. I don't have a clue as to > Charles J.P. > > > CLARKSON'S > > > > occupation, but two of his brothers were British Army > officers, > > > another > > > > brother was a Clerk in Holy Orders, and his eldest > brother was a > > > > barrister. His father was also a barrister. He does > not appear > > > on the > > > > 1881 census for England, nor can I find a record of > his marriage > > > or death > > > > in the English civil indexes. Did Ireland's censuses > follow the > > > same ten > > > > year pattern as England's and is there any way to > access those > > > censuses? > > > > Are the Irish civil indexes available for searching > on-line, and > > > if not, > > > > can anyone advise how to arrange to have a search > done? I > > > apologize for > > > > the almost total lack of information, but any > information would > > > be > > > > greatly appreciated - and if this name is familiar to > anyone, I > > > would be > > > > overjoyed to hear from you. > > > > > > > > Thank you, > > > > Linda Pagnani > > > > USA > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > > > > Greetings: This is the Official mailing list for > County and City > > > Waterford, Ireland. Waterford is Ireland's oldest city. > This list is > > > for > > > anyone with a genealogy or history interest in > Waterford, Ireland. > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > > > To contact the co-listowners send an email to: > > > Ninah@carolina.rr.com > > > or donkelly@grovenet.net > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > > When searching for records, remember that in old Ireland > boundaries like diocese, > townland, county, even provinces changed. Be sure to look > elsewhere. They might live in > Galway but went to church in Roscommon. > > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > To contact the co-listowners send an email to: > Ninah@carolina.rr.com > or donkelly@grovenet.net > > >

Hello Bill: Thank you for your kind response. I will look for the film numbers the next time I visit my local LDS library. I've been tracking these two down for many years now and it would be wonderful just to find another clue or two. Again your help is much appreciated. Linda On Mon, 07 Apr 2003 09:52:25 -0500 Bill Burland <burland@shaw.ca> writes: > Hi Linda, > I'm afraid I can't be much help, but . . . > The Irish censuses pre-1901 were destroyed. Some fragments - very > few - > survived. > The civil indexes are not on line. > Good news is that the civil indexes are filmed by the LDS & can be > seen > through your local Family History Library. > Bill > ----- Original Message ----- > From: <lpagnani@juno.com> > To: <IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com> > Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 8:53 PM > Subject: [WATERFORD] New to the list - CLARKSON > > > > > > I am a new member of the list and I am hoping to find some > information on > > a Charles James Palmer CLARKSON. Unfortunately I have very > little > > information to go on, but I wonder if someone could help with > some > > general questions. Charles J.P. CLARKSON was born in London and > other > > than his birth, the only information I have is about a daughter, > Dora > > CLARKSON, who on the 1881 census gives her place of birth as > Waterford, > > apparently about 1875. I don't have a clue as to Charles J.P. > CLARKSON'S > > occupation, but two of his brothers were British Army officers, > another > > brother was a Clerk in Holy Orders, and his eldest brother was a > > barrister. His father was also a barrister. He does not appear > on the > > 1881 census for England, nor can I find a record of his marriage > or death > > in the English civil indexes. Did Ireland's censuses follow the > same ten > > year pattern as England's and is there any way to access those > censuses? > > Are the Irish civil indexes available for searching on-line, and > if not, > > can anyone advise how to arrange to have a search done? I > apologize for > > the almost total lack of information, but any information would > be > > greatly appreciated - and if this name is familiar to anyone, I > would be > > overjoyed to hear from you. > > > > Thank you, > > Linda Pagnani > > USA > > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > > Greetings: This is the Official mailing list for County and City > Waterford, Ireland. Waterford is Ireland's oldest city. This list is > for > anyone with a genealogy or history interest in Waterford, Ireland. > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > To contact the co-listowners send an email to: > Ninah@carolina.rr.com > or donkelly@grovenet.net > > >

HELLO , i AM BRAND NEW TO YOUR LIST, I HAVE IRISH ANCESTRY, BUT APART FROM NAMES, I KNOW NOTHING ABOUT ANY OF THE BIRTHS, AND MARRIAGES, THE NAMES I AM RESEARCHING ARE> MILLIGAN POWER BEAKIE/BEAKEY IF ANYONE ELSE IS RESEARCHING THESE NAMES, I WOULD BE INTERESTED TO HEAR FROM YOU. INCIDENTALLY THERE PEOPLE ALL MARRIED, AND SETTLED IN THE MANCHESTER AREA MAGGI (IN AEGINA GREECE) _________________________________________________________________ MSN 8 helps eliminate e-mail viruses. Get 2 months FREE*. http://join.msn.com/?page=features/virus

FHL#0100169: "Microfilm of handwritten index at the Genealogical Office, Dublin Castle, Ireland. Index to Church of Ireland marriage license bonds giving name of bride and groom and year of marriage. The Dioceses of Ossory, Ferns and Leighlin were united under the administration of one bishop, but each had its own cathedral and dean. Counties or parts thereof included in the united diocese were Kilkenny, Leix, Offaly, Carlow, Wexford and Wicklow." IN Manuscripts in the Genealogical Office of Ireland. Ms. nos. 612-6l7. * I got this film to look for Leix marriages.Only a few of these had a location. Probably bec. someone was from outside the dioceses that were covered. I am skimming through looking for ones that mention a location. Here are some with a Waterford connection. These are Anglican marriages. The film only covers A-D. BECKETT, Thomas of Waterford - Grocer & Jane MEANY of St. Mary's, Spin. 16 Oct 179* [in page fold] BENNETT, Samuel of City of Waterford - Cooper & Mary BALL of Kilbeacan Parish, Spin. 8 Aug 1768 BIRD, Jonathan late of Waterford, now of Aghmacart, Queens Co. & Lydia MACOY, of AGHMACART, Spin. 27 Jul 1776 BLACKMORE, Thomas of Waterford - Surgeon & Euphemia REA of Christendom, Parish of Kilculliheen 16 May 1796 BLAKELY, John of Ross (?) Co Waterford & Susanna DUCKETT of Rosbercan Parish, Spin. 16 Sep 1766 BOWERS, Phillip of City of Waterford & Susana BLACKMORE, Spin. 21 Feb 1754 BROWNRIGG, Thomas of Waterford - Baker & Margaret GAFNEY, Spin. 8 Jan 1799 CAREW, Robert of city of Waterford & Frances BOYCE of Dunkit Parish, Spin. 3 Jul 1771 DALTON, Richard, of Passage, Co. Waterford & Frances HAGUES of Callan (?), Spin 24 Jan 1791 DELANDRE, Bartholomew of Waterford & Anne RUSSELL of Rosberc*n (?), Spin 26 Jun 1802 Regards, Christina North Carolina, USA

Here is the last entry for Waterford. BARRON, John of Kilcanavy (Kilcanavee ?) Co. Waterford & Martina DONOVAN dau. of John D. of Kilmacow - Farmer 6 Feb 1750 source: FHL#0100169: This film only covers A-D. IN Manuscripts in the Genealogical Office of Ireland. Ms. nos. 612-6l7. Regards, Christina

Hi Linda, I'm afraid I can't be much help, but . . . The Irish censuses pre-1901 were destroyed. Some fragments - very few - survived. The civil indexes are not on line. Good news is that the civil indexes are filmed by the LDS & can be seen through your local Family History Library. Bill ----- Original Message ----- From: <lpagnani@juno.com> To: <IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, April 06, 2003 8:53 PM Subject: [WATERFORD] New to the list - CLARKSON > > I am a new member of the list and I am hoping to find some information on > a Charles James Palmer CLARKSON. Unfortunately I have very little > information to go on, but I wonder if someone could help with some > general questions. Charles J.P. CLARKSON was born in London and other > than his birth, the only information I have is about a daughter, Dora > CLARKSON, who on the 1881 census gives her place of birth as Waterford, > apparently about 1875. I don't have a clue as to Charles J.P. CLARKSON'S > occupation, but two of his brothers were British Army officers, another > brother was a Clerk in Holy Orders, and his eldest brother was a > barrister. His father was also a barrister. He does not appear on the > 1881 census for England, nor can I find a record of his marriage or death > in the English civil indexes. Did Ireland's censuses follow the same ten > year pattern as England's and is there any way to access those censuses? > Are the Irish civil indexes available for searching on-line, and if not, > can anyone advise how to arrange to have a search done? I apologize for > the almost total lack of information, but any information would be > greatly appreciated - and if this name is familiar to anyone, I would be > overjoyed to hear from you. > > Thank you, > Linda Pagnani > USA > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > Greetings: This is the Official mailing list for County and City Waterford, Ireland. Waterford is Ireland's oldest city. This list is for anyone with a genealogy or history interest in Waterford, Ireland. >

I am a new member of the list and I am hoping to find some information on a Charles James Palmer CLARKSON. Unfortunately I have very little information to go on, but I wonder if someone could help with some general questions. Charles J.P. CLARKSON was born in London and other than his birth, the only information I have is about a daughter, Dora CLARKSON, who on the 1881 census gives her place of birth as Waterford, apparently about 1875. I don't have a clue as to Charles J.P. CLARKSON'S occupation, but two of his brothers were British Army officers, another brother was a Clerk in Holy Orders, and his eldest brother was a barrister. His father was also a barrister. He does not appear on the 1881 census for England, nor can I find a record of his marriage or death in the English civil indexes. Did Ireland's censuses follow the same ten year pattern as England's and is there any way to access those censuses? Are the Irish civil indexes available for searching on-line, and if not, can anyone advise how to arrange to have a search done? I apologize for the almost total lack of information, but any information would be greatly appreciated - and if this name is familiar to anyone, I would be overjoyed to hear from you. Thank you, Linda Pagnani USA

I envy Mary Ellen. I wish I could find where my family is from in County Waterford, I know I could never come to Ireland but enjoy the pictures and still trying to find where from but with names like Richard Power and John maybe Whalen,Whelan or Phelan, who knows. Jann Whalen Parks, Friendship is the only cement that will ever hold the world together. Woodrow Wilson ----- Original Message ----- From: <IRL-WATERFORD-D-request@rootsweb.com> To: <IRL-WATERFORD-D@rootsweb.com> Sent: Saturday, April 05, 2003 10:08 AM Subject: IRL-WATERFORD-D Digest V03 #39

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Don't know where you were when you were in Ireland but I would say with the exception of the larger cities, much of Ireland is as it was. Just look at Lawrence photos of the 1890s. I have several and there are many many more at the website http://www.otherdays.com/ Since we are in Ireland on a yearly basis, over the years I have purchased prints of family homeplaces. An example is The Mall in Westport County Mayo only difference is that the street is now paved and cars are parked at the curbs during the business hours. There is one I just bought of a woman driving a pony cart along the road in the townland Belclare toward Croagh Patrick. It may have been my great Gran! We rent a cottage about a1/2 mile from this scene next to my g grans former family home. After marriage she moved 1/2 mile down the road. My Irish cousins still live on the same land they had been tenants back to who knows when and purchased in 1878. The scene each morning as I leave the cottage and have a cuppa is no different from my ancestors viewed over 150 years. Jump in the car and I'm in Westport in 5 minutes and current time! Wexford is the same where my husband's family still resides. The village of Kilmore Quay. In Waterford, the village of Ballyduff Mor and Ardmore where other family originated is for the most part unchanged. Yes, the old and new is sometmes mixed but taste the countryside and the one lane roads. Get lost, as we often do, but go to the Heritage Parks to learn the history. The Celtic Tiger is roaring and many changes have happened but the old is there, be adventurous. Mary Ellen Chambers Lakewood Ohio

Would anyone know if there are in existence today, any villages that remain in a more or less primitive state, rather than reenactments of such, in Ireland today? I yearn to find the place that could still give picture to my minds eye of how it really looked in my ancestors time. I found Ireland to be the most interesting place that I have ever seen and hope to return someday to view more of the beauty that it has to offer. Betty (Massachusetts)

Hi to all. We have had a busy time in the museum of late. It appears that we may now avoid the threat of the museum closing (at least for another year). I will give more details in the next issue of the Museum newsletter. Our latest exhibition on postcards was launched and Martin and I have commenced a minor rebuild of the museum site which was long overdue. Hope you like the additions to the site and please help us choose our next postcard reproduction. Thanks to all those who voted for the Grattan Square card previously. Yours Willie and Martin Whelan 1. Dungarvan Museum Reproduction Postcards 2. Dungarvan Museum Online Shop Now Open 3. New Article On Ardmore Placed on the Web Site 4. Looking For Film Of Dungarvan And West Waterford 5. Contacting The Museum ============================================== 1. Dungarvan Museum Reproduction Postcards ============================================== To mark the launch of our summer exhibition 'Postcards Of County Waterford' featuring postcards from most of the major villages and towns of Waterford we have decided to publish the next in a series of limited edition postcards. We need to decide which postcard should be next in our reproduction postcard series and we want you to help us. We have selected 4 postcards from the turn of the century for you to choose from. We'd like you to vote for your favourite card by sending an email to william@deisedesign.com with the title of your favourite postcard in the subject line. You can view the cards by clicking on http://www.dungarvanmuseum.org/index.cgi?art_id=115. You can also find them by typing postcard into the search box at the top of the site. Personal callers to the museum can select a card using a voting system that we have set up in the museum. The titles of the postcards in the competition are as follows : a. Bathing Place b. The Bandstand c. Meagher Street d. Home Rule Street Please note that the other three cards are not in the competition. ============================================== 2. Dungarvan Museum Shop ============================================== With the cooperation of Powers bookshop we have put up a selection of Local history books for sale on the site. The titles include 'The Waterford Rebels of 1849', 'A History of Dungarvan Town and District', 'Them Golden Fields I Trod', 'History of Waterford City and County', 'Walking the Holy Ground in Ardmore and Lismore' and 'Waterford People - A Biographical Dictionary'. We can accept personal cheques drawn on major banks, postal orders and International money orders. Unfortunately we cannot accept Credit Card payments. All proceeds from books sold on the site go towards the maintenance of Dungarvan Museum Society a non-profit organisation. We also have a special offer that allows you to make a considerable saving on the shipping costs if you order all six books available for sale on the site at the same time. ============================================== 3. New Website Article ============================================== After some site restructuring we are delighted to announce our latest article is the complete book 'Ardmore Memory and Story'. Some 260 + pages of text are all available for free from the website. The museum would like to thank the author and Ardmore Pottery for allowing us to publish the book. Ardmore is a small seaside village in West Waterford. Siobhán Lincoln, the author of the book was born there, grew up there and spent her whole life there - except for her years at school and college. Siobhán shares with the reader her love and detailed knowledge of the place. The actual book may be purchased from the Ardmore Pottery shop www.ardmorepottery.com To access the article on the website click on 'Latest Article' on the front of the site. http://www.dungarvanmuseum.org ============================================== 4. Looking For Old Photographs & Film Of Dungarvan And West Waterford ============================================== If any individual has material in their possession that may be of historical interest please let us know. All material donated is given on permanent loan to the museum and can be reclaimed by the doner at any time. Photographs and old cine film are of particular interest. Photographs will be copied and returned to the owner. If any list member has Cine film, 16mm film etc dating from the 60's or earlier of the town or surrounding area please get in touch. Cine-cameras were rare at the time and our major hope of getting footage is from the collection of a holidaying visitor. 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Cara thanks for the infomation.Just in case you can help I will give you the information I have. I am looking for my gr. grandfather Jeremiah McGuire born about 1830 or 1831. He was not born in Waterford but moved into the city about 1859. We believe we found him on the British census of 1881 on the ship "Copeland" in Portsmouth Harbor. Jeremiah had 3 sons who were also sailors. Jeremiah born 1858 place unknown. Richard born 1860 and Hugh {my gr.father} born 1864. Richard and Hugh born in Waterford City. Hugh moved to Wales about 1895 and sailed out of the ports of Cardiff and Newport. Jeremiah also had gr.sons that were mariners. Jeremiah 1886 James 1893 and Thomas 1893 who was killed in WW11 when his ship was torpedoed off the coast of N. Ireland. There may be others but these are the only ones we know. His gr.daughter was the widow of Thomas Coffee killed on the ss Formby in Waterford Harbor in WW1. We believe Hugh was the only child of Jeremiah to move from Waterford. Thanks Wendy. (USA)

Does any one know if there are any records available on mariners who sailed out of Waterford between 1850 and 1925. Thanks. Wendy.

"Joe and Sheila, his new bride from Texas, are strolling in Dublin City in the mid-1930's when a passerby tips his hat to Joe, who returns the gesture. "Who was that?" Sheila asks. "Oh, I was in jail with him," he replies. The shock lessens for Sheila each new time it happens" Ireland Genealogy Projects has added THE BALLYKINLAR BOOK: An Autograph Album from Ballykinlar Prison, 1921 to the IGP webpage. To take a look go to http://irelandgenealogyprojects.rootsweb.com/ Scroll all the way down and click on "GO see the book". Don Kelly, National Coordinator for IGP would be glad to have some help with transcribing the pages and we have some great volunteers so if you would like to help - contact Don at: Donkelly@grovenet.net Great job with this project Don!!! Regards, Christina North Carolina, USA

Source: OHHAMILT-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [Hamilt'n] Some burial records from NSJC Contibutor <nannymaher@comcast.net> [Waterford record reposted on the IRL-WATERFORD list with permission of the contributor.] Ann Meagher, buried in section NWP, lot 7, Range 5, born Waterford, late residence, 31 Hathaway, parents Charles & Ellen FEDBALL, age 63 years, cause of death, Bronchitis, buried 3-16-1878.