I will check this out for you as far as emigration. By far the best records to check, however, are those dealing with *immigration* in the destination country, as they are most complete, especially for during the potato famine and other such busy times. The difficulties with checking emigration records are that they probably left from a big coastal city, not from where they were from, and often (especially during the famine) left from England. Do not be surprised if you don't find emigration records on them either. It's best to check passenger lists and immigration records...all of which are kept on the US side during the famine, and much more complete after the famine. If you still would like to try the emigration records, let me know and I'll find you a few sources. Sam ----- Original Message ----- From: <Shamrock1020@aol.com> To: <IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Monday, February 09, 2004 4:33 PM Subject: [WATERFORD] Immigration > In checking immigration records in Ireland, where does one go to try and find > out when their ancestors left Waterford or any place in Ireland? > > Thanks to any who can answer the question. > > Mary > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > Submit your Waterford Surnames: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat2/registry.htm > >

I have updated the Ireland Book List section of my website with another 50 books, mostly from one submitter who is also generously offering to do lookups on many of the books. Check out the website and if you have books to add to the site, please use the convenient forms at the bottom of the webpages. You can access the site at: http://www.connorsgenealogy.com/books/IrelandBooks.htm -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

> Mary, You have not set an easy task for yourself. I assume you mean emigration records. As far as I know, the only way to find that information is to search the passenger list records at their point of immigration, e.g., Boston, New York, etc. If you're lucky, you may, then, be able to view the manifest of that ship to find the name of the port and date of departure. Happy hunting, David Collins > Subject: [WATERFORD] Immigration > Date: Mon, 9 Feb 2004 18:33:09 EST > From: Shamrock1020@aol.com > To: IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com > > In checking immigration records in Ireland, where does one go to try and find > out when their ancestors left Waterford or any place in Ireland? > > Thanks to any who can answer the question. > > Mary

In checking immigration records in Ireland, where does one go to try and find out when their ancestors left Waterford or any place in Ireland? Thanks to any who can answer the question. Mary

Hello to all. We have added five articles to the museum site www.dungarvanmuseum.org this week. Thanks to the museum volunteers Kathleen Pruss and Joanne Connors Parandjuk (among others) for all of their hard work. I appreciate that we have placed a lot of Ardmore articles online recently. When we received the go-ahead to digitise the Ardmore Journals it was too good an opportunity to miss. We are starting to come to an end of these articles and shall be focusing on other places within the county in a month or two. Thanks to Waterford County Library [ www.waterfordcountylibrary.ie ] for permission to reproduce 'Observations On The State Of Waterford 1813'. Of the articles published this month this has to be my favourite. Look for his description of the Inns of Dungarvan in 1813. If it appeared today it would wipe out our tourist industry overnight. :) Yours Willie and Martin Whelan 1. 5 New Articles Placed on the Web Site 2. Museum Scanning Project 3. Local Web Sites 4. Help Dungarvan Museum 5. Contact Us 1. New Website Articles ============================================== The following 2 articles can be accessed by clicking on the latest article links on the home page www.dungarvanmuseum.org. Alternatively click on HISTORICAL ARTICLES on the home page. Kilgrovan (or Mount Melleray) Ogham Stones William Williams of Dungarvan found the Kilgrovan Ogham Stones in 1857. At the turn of the century (1900) the stones were transferred from Clonea to Mount Melleray Abbey. Observations On The State Of Waterford 1813 John Christian Curwen was a renowned agriculturist and parliamentarian. His views on Ireland, where he spent time between 1813 and 1816, are set out in "Observations on the State of Ireland, Principally Directed to its Agriculture and Rural Population" (1818). This article contain descriptions of Lismore and Dungarvan in 1813. The following 3 articles can be accessed by clicking on the latest article links on the home page www.dungarvanmuseum.org. Alternatively click on ONLINE BOOKS & MEMOIRS on the home page and then ARDMORE JOURNAL. Joan Jameson & Norah McGuinness - Two Painters In Ardmore Ardmore, County Waterford has been a back-ground for the work of two remarkable and deservedly acclaimed painters, Joan Jameson and Norah McGuinness. The Wreck Of The Nellie Fleming Owned by the The Fleming family of Youghal 'The Nellie Fleming' was wrecked off Ardmore in December 1913. The Ardmore Regatta The Regatta in the thirties was a big event in Ardmore and usually held on a Sunday afternoon in mid August depending on tides. ============================================== 2. Museum Scanning Project ============================================== We are currently checking the state of copyright on our next scanning project. The book will be a work of general West Waterford interest. I will be getting in touch with the scanning volunteers within the next month or so. ============================================== 3. Local Web Sites ============================================== Two local web sites* have been launched in the recent past that may be of interest to genealogists / historians. www.copper-coast.com This contains articles on the history of Bonmahon, Fenor, Stradbally and the general Copper Coast area. www.waterfordcountylibrary.ie The county library staff are constantly adding new material to their web site. The online resources and local studies sections should contain much of interest. *I will declare an interest in both of these sites. Deise Design www.deisedesign.com were involved in the construction of both of them. If anyone has another local history web site they feel should be mentioned please bring it my attention and I will be happy to oblige. ============================================== 4. Help The Museum ============================================== Dungarvan Museum is a voluntary organisation and we rely on unpaid volunteers to keep our museum going. Loads of different projects remain to be done, you could make it your New Years resolution to help preserve the history of your area / ancestral homeland. As can be seen from the rapid expansion of this web site volunteers can make a difference. Without the scanning project we would still be producing 1 article per month. At the moment as a result of the efforts of our scanning volunteers (living on three different continents) we are averaging 6 new articles per month. Information on how you can help Dungarvan Museum can be found on our home page www.dungarvanmuseum.org We are committed to preserving the history of all County Waterford (not just Dungarvan). ============================================== 5. Contacting The Museum ============================================== All general queries can be directed to the museum at history@dungarvanmuseum.org If you have a comment or complaint about the web site you can contact william@deisedesign.com We are delighted to get all feedback, positive or negative. We endeavor to act on all suggestions that we get but please bear in mind that we are a voluntary organisation and it can take some time to answer queries.

Hi. I am searching for information about my ancestors William Moore and Lucinda Oldfield. Lucinda Oldfield was born about 1807 and William Moore was born about 1804. They were married about 1826. Their eldest (surviving) child was born in Canada in 1829. The family history that has been passed down orally is that Lucinda was from a noble family and was born at Lismore Castle. She did not have her parents blessing to marry William Moore so they ran away together, got married and left for Canada. The ship broke up in the Gulf of St. Lawrence and most of the passengers perished. Lucinda and William survived, but never communicated with family in Ireland for the rest of their lives, allowing them to believe they had drowned. I have come across the name Harrys Oldfield of Lismore and belive he was probably Lucinda's father or grandfather, although I have no proof yet. Anything that anybody can tell me about Oldfields, Moores, or the occupants of Lismore Castle in the early 19th century would be appreciated. Thanks very much. Bill MacCallum

Today I updated the Parish History Books webpage on my website with another 40 or so books and with more lookup volunteers. Anyone doing Irish genealogical research find these books invaluable to their family history. I didn't know they even existed until my first trip to Ireland in 1999 and accidentally happened on them in Galway Town at Kenny's Bookstore. When I came back from another Ireland trip in 2001 I had collected so many more books that I needed to buy another suitcase at Roche's. Later, I decided to start this website to help those who didn't know about the books or knew about them and could not find any to buy, since many are out of print. When I started the website, I didn't include lookups but did include a form for other researchers to submit books that I didn't know about. Since then, I started getting emails from wonderful people offering to do lookups, so I added Lookup Volunteers. In the beginning, not all counties had many books, but I have since joined all 32 counties of Ireland mailing lists' to reach out to the counties where I am not active so I could include their books. You can access the Parish Books website, by going to the URL under my name. On my homepage, under Ireland, click on Ireland Books. This will take you to the Irish Book Discussion Mailing List webpage. Near the bottom, under Previous Posts, the Parish History Books have four links, listed by county in alpha order. At the bottom of each Parish History Book webpage is a form where you can submit books that are not already listed. I update the site monthly, usually the the first week. If you see a book listed without a lookup volunteer, and you have the book and want to volunteer, email me off list and I will include you with my next update. -- Pat Connors, Sacramento CA http://www.connorsgenealogy.com Professional Genealogy Research All outgoing mail virus free, scanned by Norton 2002

Source: IRELAND-L@rootsweb.com Subject: [IRELAND] !! Freeman Journal; Jan 29, 1764 Freeman Journal Dublin, Ireland Jan. 29, 1764 DEATHS.] Zachary Cooke, Esq; of Tallow in the County of Waterford.- On Usher's-Island, Mr. Henry Constable, an eminent Merchant, and a Man of the fairest Character, whose Death is sincerely lamented.- In Nassau-street, the Widow Craven.- At Athlone, Mr. Edward Acton; and Mr. John Quarterman, an eminent Schoolmaster. In Dolphin's Barn, aged 63, Mr. James Brady.- In Fishamble-street, Mr. Betagh, greatly advanced in Years.- Wednesday last died at Island-bridge, Anthony Green, Esq; formerly an eminent Sugar-baker in this City. Cathy Joynt Labath Ireland Old News http://www.IrelandOldNews.com/

----- Original Message ----- From: "Patrick J. McCann, Jr." <magisterpat@worldnet.att.net> To: <IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Thursday, January 29, 2004 3:20 PM Subject: [WATERFORD] IVORY > IVORY -- Looking for any information on John Ivory, his wife, Mary > Lyons, who left Waterford 1825-1827 for Quebec, where they settled. I > know nothing more with any certainty about their lives or deaths. > They had with them at least one son, an infant named Thomas Ivory, > who at age 16 left Quebec and sailed to France where he lived until > 1852 when he once again crossed the Atlantic and settled in Brooklyn, > owning a series of saloons, restaurants and hotels until his death > in 1881. On two different censuses, Thomas' wife is named Mary, born > either in Ireland or Canada (depends on the document); in a death > certificate her name is given as Augusta Page. He had three children, > Ann, Thomas, and Katherine Augusta. Thomas also had a brother, John, > who was born either in Ireland or Canada (depends on the document) > and a brother William, who was born either in Canada or New York > (depends on the document). John and William were in Brooklyn in 1850; > John and Thomas from 1860 until 1880 (at least). I don't know when > John died after 1880. John was married to Isabella McGoldrick and had > six children. William married Ellen Corcoran, and they and their four > children eventually settled in Chicgao. > -- > Patrick J. McCann, Jr. > Dallas, TX > CRESCIT SUB PONDERE VIRTUS > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > User Contributed Ireland Databases at Rootsweb: > http://userdb.rootsweb.com/regional.html#Ireland > > --- Outgoing mail is certified Virus Free. Checked by AVG anti-virus system (http://www.grisoft.com). Version: 6.0.569 / Virus Database: 360 - Release Date: 26/01/2004

IVORY -- Looking for any information on John Ivory, his wife, Mary Lyons, who left Waterford 1825-1827 for Quebec, where they settled. I know nothing more with any certainty about their lives or deaths. They had with them at least one son, an infant named Thomas Ivory, who at age 16 left Quebec and sailed to France where he lived until 1852 when he once again crossed the Atlantic and settled in Brooklyn, owning a series of saloons, restaurants and hotels until his death in 1881. On two different censuses, Thomas' wife is named Mary, born either in Ireland or Canada (depends on the document); in a death certificate her name is given as Augusta Page. He had three children, Ann, Thomas, and Katherine Augusta. Thomas also had a brother, John, who was born either in Ireland or Canada (depends on the document) and a brother William, who was born either in Canada or New York (depends on the document). John and William were in Brooklyn in 1850; John and Thomas from 1860 until 1880 (at least). I don't know when John died after 1880. John was married to Isabella McGoldrick and had six children. William married Ellen Corcoran, and they and their four children eventually settled in Chicgao. -- Patrick J. McCann, Jr. Dallas, TX CRESCIT SUB PONDERE VIRTUS

Hi list, I am, searching for the place of birth & the ancestry of Thomas McENTAGGART. He was b. bet 1816-1820 in Ireland. Naturalization Record: McTAGGERT Thomas  1852 wit: Daniel MURPHY & Patrick QUINN Name: Thomas McTAGGART Birth place: Ireland Age: 26 Whence emigrated: Liverpool Place of intended: Reading, Berks Co., PA Mar 1845-6 -- entered the USA at the Port of New York from Ireland Marriage Record: Thomas McENTIGART m. Brigitta NORTON 26 Nov 1848 wit: Jacob CASSIDY & Elizabeth NORTON St. Peter's Catholic Chr., Reading, Berks Co., PA NOTE: Bridget was b. in Parish Kilmore, Co. Roscommon. Please e-mail me directly. Thank you for any help you can give me! :) Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) HMWEBBER@aol.com P.S. McENTAGGART - TAGGART - MELLERICK - McINTYRE & other variants.

Hi list, I'm searching for the place of birth & the ancestry of my Mary E. MAYNES - MANES - McMANUS. She was b. bet 1826-1834 in Ireland. I'm, also, searching for the place of birth & the ancestry of her husband Patrick TUTHILL - TUTTLE. He was b. bet 1813-1825 in Northern Ireland. Patrick's immigration to the USA: 1 Apr 1850 Name of Vessel: Bark WENHAM Port of Embarkation: Liverpool Date of Arrival: April 1, 1850 Port of Entry: Port of Baltimore, MD TUTTHILL, Patrick age 28 male laborer Ireland Baltimore Note: Also, listed is a Terrance MANE & Family. This maybe his future father-in-law! Pat m. 28 Oct 1851 -- Mary MANES (MAYNES - McMANUS), at St. Vincent de Paul Church, Baltimore City, MD. Fr. John Francis HICKEY wit: John MURPHY & Ann MANES. Please e-mail me directly. Thank you for any help you can give me! :) Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) P.S. TUTTLE - TUTHILL - TWOHILL - TOOHILL - TOTEHYLL - TOTHILL - TOUHILL - TURTLE - FUTTLE

Hi list, Is anyone researching the following immigrant(s) who were b. in Co. Waterford, Ireland & migrated to the USA before 1860? There are (2) Naturalization Records in Delaware Co., Pennsylvania (PA) for the following person(s) b. in Co. Waterford: Co. Waterford, Ireland POWER, Patrick THOMPSON, William Please contact me directly if you are interested in any of these immigrants who's names appear here. I will do a lookup for you in the Naturalization index records of Delaware Co., PA for these name(s) only! Happy hunting, Helen (DCGS) HMWEBBER@aol.com

Hi there - We are putting some Tipperary census (1901) online on the Tipperary (IGP) website. Two of the townlands were in Waterford. Tinahalla and Crehanagh North. I have put these on the Tipperary site but have a link from the Waterford IGP website. http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat2/ Some of the other places overlap with Waterford. They were listed on the census page as Tipperary but are in Waterford. >From Family History Library Catalog Description: The civil parish of Kilmoleran >is partly in County Waterford on the River Suir border with Tipperary and part >is in the township of Carrick-on-Suir, County Tipperary. Older gazetteers place >it wholly within Waterford. Kilmoleran may be of interest as it contains Carrickbeg Town. Most of the people gave their birthplace as Waterford. One said "Waterford then NOW Tipperary." (They were confused too.) The url for the census index on the Tipperary site is: http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/Census/index.htm Just a suggestion - if you use PicoSearch you can use the "drop down" box to limit the search to CENSUS. Regards, Christina

Wonder if it would be helpful to add overlapping records to the Leinster webpage. Not that I need more work or anything like that. Just a wild (hopefully fleeting) thought<GRIN> Don ----- Original Message ----- From: "Christina Hunt" <Ninah@carolina.rr.com> To: <IRL-WATERFORD-L@rootsweb.com> Sent: Sunday, January 25, 2004 8:04 AM Subject: [WATERFORD] 1901 census Tinahalla & Crehanagh added > Hi there - > We are putting some Tipperary census (1901) online on the Tipperary (IGP) > website. Two of the townlands were in Waterford. Tinahalla and Crehanagh North. > I have put these on the Tipperary site but have a link from the Waterford IGP > website. > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irlwat2/ > > Some of the other places overlap with Waterford. They were listed on the census > page as Tipperary but are in Waterford. > > >From Family History Library Catalog Description: The civil parish of Kilmoleran > >is partly in County Waterford on the River Suir border with Tipperary and part > >is in the township of Carrick-on-Suir, County Tipperary. Older gazetteers place > >it wholly within Waterford. > > Kilmoleran may be of interest as it contains Carrickbeg Town. Most of the people > gave their birthplace as Waterford. One said "Waterford then NOW Tipperary." > (They were confused too.) > > The url for the census index on the Tipperary site is: > http://www.rootsweb.com/~irltip2/Census/index.htm > > Just a suggestion - if you use PicoSearch you can use the "drop down" box to > limit the search to CENSUS. > > Regards, > Christina > > > > > ==== IRL-WATERFORD Mailing List ==== > Greetings: This is the Official mailing list for County and City Waterford, Ireland. Waterford is Ireland's oldest city. This list is for anyone with a genealogy or history interest in Waterford, Ireland. >

I am currently looking for some Quilty's from this area (Ballynarrid, Ballylaneen, Waterford, Ireland) in Waterford. I know I can write a letter to the Waterford Heritage. I do have a few questions before I write, though. 1) Does anyone know of a Michael QUILTY, married to Mary O'BRIEN (or BRIEN, since often the O' was dropped in Ireland)? They were born around 1830, and immigrated to the US in 1865 and 1867, respectively. At least 2 children, Margaret and Johanna, were born in Ireland; one was born in Michigan (Nellie, also known as Ellen). I also know there is a son, Jack, but do not know if he was born in Ireland or the USA. Yes, they are Catholic, and I do know the Catholic parish name...Stradbally. Does anyone know more about Michael and Mary in Ireland? Or know any other children born in Ireland to this family? 2) How do things work in Waterford for letters? Do you go through the Waterford Heritage, or can you write the church directly, or both? I know church records go back to ~1807 (baptisms), and ~1805 (marriages), for Catholics. I also know they were in this area prior to immigrating, since I know Johanna was born in this area, and Margaret probably was as well. I don't need all of the searching capabilities of WH yet...WH sounds like a wonderful institution, don't get me wrong, but if I can write the church directly and get the records, then I would rather go that route, THEN contact WH to fill in the gaps that are still left. Is that possible? Thank you, Sam

Sam, Here is what I experienced in response to your question below. --------------------------- 2) How do things work in Waterford for letters? Do you go through the Waterford Heritage, or can you write the church directly, or both? I know church records go back to ~1807 (baptisms), and ~1805 (marriages), for Catholics. I also know they were in this area prior to immigrating, since I know Johanna was born in this area, and Margaret probably was as well. I don't need all of the searching capabilities of WH yet...WH sounds like a wonderful institution, don't get me wrong, but if I can write the church directly and get the records, then I would rather go that route, THEN contact WH to fill in the gaps that are still left. Is that possible? Waterford Heritage Center charges 80 Euro for a basic search. Obviously the more information you have, the better. I knew the parish and the names of the family I was researching, and a few dates and names of spouses and children. Waterford found 11 of 13 baptisms. At least they found the children with the same name and none of which I was not aware. One of the 13 children stayed in Ireland and I was especially hopeful some information could be found about him (none was). They found some spouses and their children, but I don't think they are the right ones, as the weddings took place after my records show they were in New York and had children. But I am keeping an open mind. They sent me additional information about the townland and a copy of some Griffiths Valuation for the area that mentions the surname I am researching and some other miscellaneous information not directly related to my family. I was charged 180 Euro for this. I do feel that I got some valuable information. For example my great great grandfather's actual baptism was before the birthdate listed on his tombstone in Wisconsin. It also corrected some other dates I had accumulated over the years. You can contact Waterford on the internet to see what you may get for your 80 Euros. I had the special privilege of visiting Ireland last summer and went to the church where I was able to view the orginal church books and took digital photos of those pages. Some is hard to read and is mostly Latin but can be figured out. When I first saw the priest, he suggested that I contact Waterford Heritage Center, but when I told him I already had the information from them, he arranged to get the books for me. It was wonderful being able to see the original documents. Did not find any information on my great great great grandparents because they were born before 1800. Later when I got home, I sent the priest a donation for the church. I don't know if the priest would have made copies for me or not. It wouldn't hurt to write and ask and include a donation and return envelope. You can find the priest's name and address on the internet by searching for the parish. Hope this helps you make your decision.

I am looking for information concerning: JAMES PARSONS DUCKETT SUSANNAH VIZE DUCKETT JAMES DUCKETT RICHARD DUCKETT Many thanks! Loretta Myrter

Do you have a Mary Finn from Fuerty (Galway or Roscommon) who married an Edward Carty from Dunamon (Galway or Roscommon)? Edward was supposed to have lived 110 years from 1730 to1840 and married at age 60 to a Mary Finn from Fuerty. Anita